Re: Circuit board trace repair...

2020-08-14 Thread Carlos E Murillo-Sanchez via cctalk

Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:

On 8/13/20 9:58 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote:

How much current is ir suppose to carry? I'd just replace it with a piece of 
wire wrap wire if it is less than an amp.
Of course, I assume you've fixed what ever failed to cause it to blow.
Gold wire is expensive.
Dwight

According to my tables, AWG 30 copper wire has a resistance of 0.107 ohm
per foot or about 9 milliohm per inch.  I suspect that it would work
under almost all PCB repair conditions.  I've repaired power traces on
CPU boards using WW wire with no ill effects.

--Chuck


Of course, it is not just about the resistance, but the resulting 
thermal cycling at the endpoints... About 25 years ago, I learned the 
hard way about keeping each amp across at least two DB-whatever pins in 
experimental hybrid-electric vehicles.  Nowadays we routinely x-ray 
crimps for safety-critical things such as ABS harnesses.   Ampacity 
calculations differ wildly accross applications.


carlos.



Re: Circuit board trace repair...

2020-08-13 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 8/13/20 9:58 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote:
> How much current is ir suppose to carry? I'd just replace it with a piece of 
> wire wrap wire if it is less than an amp.
> Of course, I assume you've fixed what ever failed to cause it to blow.
> Gold wire is expensive.
> Dwight

According to my tables, AWG 30 copper wire has a resistance of 0.107 ohm
per foot or about 9 milliohm per inch.  I suspect that it would work
under almost all PCB repair conditions.  I've repaired power traces on
CPU boards using WW wire with no ill effects.

--Chuck



Re: Circuit board trace repair...

2020-08-13 Thread dwight via cctalk
How much current is ir suppose to carry? I'd just replace it with a piece of 
wire wrap wire if it is less than an amp.
Of course, I assume you've fixed what ever failed to cause it to blow.
Gold wire is expensive.
Dwight


From: cctalk  on behalf of John Foust via cctalk 

Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 4:20 AM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org 
Subject: Re: Circuit board trace repair...

At 05:33 PM 8/12/2020, Doc Shipley via cctalk wrote:
>When I worked for Texas Instruments in '83, we used 30ga 24K gold wire...

And these days, that's sold by the inch?

- John




Re: Circuit board trace repair...

2020-08-13 Thread John Foust via cctalk
At 05:33 PM 8/12/2020, Doc Shipley via cctalk wrote:
>When I worked for Texas Instruments in '83, we used 30ga 24K gold wire... 

And these days, that's sold by the inch?

- John




Re: Circuit board trace repair...

2020-08-13 Thread Doc Shipley via cctalk
When I worked for Texas Instruments in '83, we used 30ga 24K gold 
wire...  I use plain wire-wrap wire for board repairs, and from the 
looks of most of my pre-1990 circuit boards, that's period correct.


The only issue I'd have with that 3M tape would be cutting it narrow 
enough to fit.  Otherwise, it's purpose-built for what you're doing.



Doc


On 8/10/20 4:31 PM, William Sudbrink via cctech wrote:

Hi All,

  


I'm going to be attempting to repair, both cosmetically and operationally, a
circuit board that had a strip of 12 volt trace "blown off" of it by a
short.  The fiberglass is clean and there was no solder resist in the
affected area.  I'm considering using 3M 1183 adhesive tinned foil tape for
the job.  Has anyone else done this?  Could you recommend this or another
product?  Any tips?

  


Thanks,

Bill Sudbrink

  








Re: Circuit board trace repair...

2020-08-10 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 8/10/20 2:31 PM, William Sudbrink via cctalk wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
>  
> 
> I'm going to be attempting to repair, both cosmetically and operationally, a
> circuit board that had a strip of 12 volt trace "blown off" of it by a
> short.  The fiberglass is clean and there was no solder resist in the
> affected area.  I'm considering using 3M 1183 adhesive tinned foil tape for
> the job.  Has anyone else done this?  Could you recommend this or another
> product?  Any tips?
> 

I've used AWG30 wire-wrap wire to accomplish similar repairs.

--Chuck


Re: Circuit board trace repair...

2020-08-10 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk

On 08/10/2020 04:31 PM, William Sudbrink via cctalk wrote:

Hi All,

  


I'm going to be attempting to repair, both cosmetically and operationally, a
circuit board that had a strip of 12 volt trace "blown off" of it by a
short.  The fiberglass is clean and there was no solder resist in the
affected area.  I'm considering using 3M 1183 adhesive tinned foil tape for
the job.  Has anyone else done this?  Could you recommend this or another
product?  Any tips?

I usually repair these with solid copper wire, but then I'm 
not trying to make it cosmetic, too.


Jon


Re: Circuit board trace repair...

2020-08-10 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk



> On August 10, 2020 at 4:31 PM William Sudbrink via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> 
> I'm going to be attempting to repair, both cosmetically and operationally, 
> acircuit board that had a strip of 12 volt trace "blown off" of it by ashort. 
> The fiberglass is clean and there was no solder resist in theaffected area. 
> I'm considering using 3M 1183 adhesive tinned foil tape forthe job. Has 
> anyone else done this? Could you recommend this or anotherproduct? Any tips?
> 

I've never tried it, but maybe one of these pens that draws tracks with 
conductive ink?
https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/chemtronics/CW2000/CW2000-ND/1929216

Will


Circuit board trace repair...

2020-08-10 Thread William Sudbrink via cctalk
Hi All,

 

I'm going to be attempting to repair, both cosmetically and operationally, a
circuit board that had a strip of 12 volt trace "blown off" of it by a
short.  The fiberglass is clean and there was no solder resist in the
affected area.  I'm considering using 3M 1183 adhesive tinned foil tape for
the job.  Has anyone else done this?  Could you recommend this or another
product?  Any tips?

 

Thanks,

Bill Sudbrink

 



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