Re: Honeywell DDP-516 console on Ebay - PLEASE don't bid!
Hello again, On 24.02.2018 04:42, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote: so did u get it? Yes, I won the auction at a badly high price. :-) :-) :-) :-) Kind regards Philipp
Re: Honeywell DDP-516 console on Ebay - PLEASE don't bid!
so did u get it? On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 10:25 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > On 2/23/18 6:22 AM, Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk wrote: > > > With the stripped keyboard one can build something underneath to replace > the original terminal as well. > > > Too bad that isn't what keyboard collectors do with them. > > It is good to hear that if a Lisp Machine keyboard gets in the hands of > someone who appreciates > them for what they are that they get attached to an emulator and aren't > raped to be a L33T D00D's > gaming PC keyboard. > > > >
Re: Honeywell DDP-516 console on Ebay - PLEASE don't bid!
On 2/23/18 6:22 AM, Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk wrote: > With the stripped keyboard one can build something underneath to replace the > original terminal as well. Too bad that isn't what keyboard collectors do with them. It is good to hear that if a Lisp Machine keyboard gets in the hands of someone who appreciates them for what they are that they get attached to an emulator and aren't raped to be a L33T D00D's gaming PC keyboard.
Re: Honeywell DDP-516 console on Ebay - PLEASE don't bid!
On 22.02.2018 20:51, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: I can accept someone keeping the front panel and dumping the computer more so than when on strips a keyboard from the terminal. Oh, what!?! I have a totally different opinion on that :-) Two reasons - One because with the front panel one can build something underneath to replace the original computer. With the stripped keyboard one can build something underneath to replace the original terminal as well. Even easier than the computer. Second - The computer may simply be too big to keep around There is no vintage computer in existence that is too big to keep. There are only vintage computers which are too big for some collectors/persons/institutions/museums/whatever. But in my opinion it is never ok to scrap a big system and keep the front panel. Not in the 21st century. Those big irons are getting more and more rare. And there are people and institutions which can mobilise amounts of power, money, will, knowledge and enthusiasm that cannot even be imagined by the common sort of people who scrap, discard and destroy the real interesting machines. Still today. These dangerous people appear in the form of managers, engineers, professors, , former users of the systems or even the service technician who took care for the machine for years. And, the newest addition to that creepy army of educated morons: Stupid collectors and replica builders. I know EXACTLY what I am talking about. I have seen things and felt the pain. So again: There is NO NO NO reason to strip a frontpanel from a machine. It's always wrong. No exception. It's just plain wrong. Kind regards Philipp
Re: Honeywell DDP-516 console on Ebay - PLEASE don't bid!
A library near me has art work facade about 20 feet tall with the castings of old radios, tv's and computers. Some of these I'd have liked to have had. I doubt any were saved after making the original casting. Dwight From: cctalk on behalf of Bill Degnan via cctalk Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 11:51:35 AM To: Ed Sharpe; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Honeywell DDP-516 console on Ebay - PLEASE don't bid! > On Thursday, February 22, 2018 Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > On 22.02.2018 16:18, Bill Degnan wrote: > > All I have so far is the > > console and a core module. I am looking for the rest of the computer > > if anyone has one... > Ah, good to know that there is a spare core stack around :-P > > > http://vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=655 > I remember - having already commented on it... > > The front panel is quite dump. Everything is handled in the CPU and the > PSU. > > BTW you know that the schematics of the DDP-516 can be found on bitsavers? > > Kind regards > > Philipp > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 2:38 PM, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote: > some panel hoader could drive this thru the roof I ran into someine > this year with no interest really in the computers but like the panels for > art with deep pockets. which makes them even scarier.ed# > www.smecc.org<http://www.smecc.org> > > Sent from AOL Mobile Mail I can accept someone keeping the front panel and dumping the computer more so than when on strips a keyboard from the terminal. Two reasons - One because with the front panel one can build something underneath to replace the original computer. Second - The computer may simply be too big to keep around But I am sure there is a Fridays restaurant somewhere in the USA with a UNIVAC front panel or something sad like that on the wall. Bill
Re: Honeywell DDP-516 console on Ebay - PLEASE don't bid!
> On Thursday, February 22, 2018 Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > On 22.02.2018 16:18, Bill Degnan wrote: > > All I have so far is the > > console and a core module. I am looking for the rest of the computer > > if anyone has one... > Ah, good to know that there is a spare core stack around :-P > > > http://vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=655 > I remember - having already commented on it... > > The front panel is quite dump. Everything is handled in the CPU and the > PSU. > > BTW you know that the schematics of the DDP-516 can be found on bitsavers? > > Kind regards > > Philipp > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 2:38 PM, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote: > some panel hoader could drive this thru the roof I ran into someine > this year with no interest really in the computers but like the panels for > art with deep pockets. which makes them even scarier.ed# > www.smecc.org > > Sent from AOL Mobile Mail I can accept someone keeping the front panel and dumping the computer more so than when on strips a keyboard from the terminal. Two reasons - One because with the front panel one can build something underneath to replace the original computer. Second - The computer may simply be too big to keep around But I am sure there is a Fridays restaurant somewhere in the USA with a UNIVAC front panel or something sad like that on the wall. Bill
Re: Honeywell DDP-516 console on Ebay - PLEASE don't bid!
some panel hoader could drive this thru the roof I ran into someine this year with no interest really in the computers but like the panels for art with deep pockets. which makes them even scarier.ed# www.smecc.org Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Thursday, February 22, 2018 Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk wrote: On 22.02.2018 16:18, Bill Degnan wrote: > All I have so far is the > console and a core module. I am looking for the rest of the computer > if anyone has one... Ah, good to know that there is a spare core stack around :-P > http://vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=655 I remember - having already commented on it... The front panel is quite dump. Everything is handled in the CPU and the PSU. BTW you know that the schematics of the DDP-516 can be found on bitsavers? Kind regards Philipp
Re: Honeywell DDP-516 console on Ebay - PLEASE don't bid!
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > On 22.02.2018 16:18, Bill Degnan wrote: > >> All I have so far is the >> console and a core module. I am looking for the rest of the computer if >> anyone has one... >> > Ah, good to know that there is a spare core stack around :-P > > http://vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=655 >> > I remember - having already commented on it... > > The front panel is quite dump. Everything is handled in the CPU and the > PSU. > > BTW you know that the schematics of the DDP-516 can be found on bitsavers? > > Kind regards > > Philipp > > Yes, just commenting to the group..for now I can simH Honeywell. I would love to get the front panel running with a simH, using the schematics to determine what lights should flash.. Bill
Re: Honeywell DDP-516 console on Ebay - PLEASE don't bid!
On 22.02.2018 16:18, Bill Degnan wrote: All I have so far is the console and a core module. I am looking for the rest of the computer if anyone has one... Ah, good to know that there is a spare core stack around :-P http://vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=655 I remember - having already commented on it... The front panel is quite dump. Everything is handled in the CPU and the PSU. BTW you know that the schematics of the DDP-516 can be found on bitsavers? Kind regards Philipp
Re: Honeywell DDP-516 console on Ebay - PLEASE don't bid!
I have been watching this too, yes. Fortunately I already have a practically identical console (link below). All I have so far is the console and a core module. I am looking for the rest of the computer if anyone has one... http://vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=655 Bill On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 7:58 AM, Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Hi folks, > > I recently discovered a complete Honeywell DDP-516 console on Ebay. It is > a charity auction, ending tomorrow. > > I am the high bidder (hachti, 600-some points) and BEG YOU ALL NOT TO BID > on it! > I already entered a crazy high bid anyway bid so please don't bid on it. > > I am one of the very very very few people who have an actual DDP-516 > machine and can really use this as a spare for a real machine. > > Again, PLEASE refrain from bidding up this item! > > If you are the owner of a "headless" machine who is in need for the front > panel: please contact me, so we can avoid an explosion on Ebay. > > Thank you very much. > > Kind regards > > Philipp >
Honeywell DDP-516 console on Ebay - PLEASE don't bid!
Hi folks, I recently discovered a complete Honeywell DDP-516 console on Ebay. It is a charity auction, ending tomorrow. I am the high bidder (hachti, 600-some points) and BEG YOU ALL NOT TO BID on it! I already entered a crazy high bid anyway bid so please don't bid on it. I am one of the very very very few people who have an actual DDP-516 machine and can really use this as a spare for a real machine. Again, PLEASE refrain from bidding up this item! If you are the owner of a "headless" machine who is in need for the front panel: please contact me, so we can avoid an explosion on Ebay. Thank you very much. Kind regards Philipp