[cctalk] Re: Looking for NORTRONICS Read/Write head for IBM 5100/5110/5106 tape unit

2023-10-26 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Wed, 25 Oct 2023, Mark Perullo wrote: halves". One half looks like an "upper and lower" for the two tracks, then next to that is a "vertical bar." I've never quite understood what that vertical bar is - I assume a WRITE portion of some sort?? The ones in the ebay listing don't have

[cctalk] Re: Looking for NORTRONICS Read/Write head for IBM 5100/5110/5106 tape unit

2023-10-25 Thread Steve Lewis via cctalk
Thanks, I see the listing. Here is my notes on what tape head I was looking for: (it is about 3/4th of the way down the page; there is one photo and then one "diagram" I put together) https://voidstar.blog/ibm-5100-internal-tape-and-5106/ And I appreciate you taking the time to bring

[cctalk] Re: Looking for NORTRONICS Read/Write head for IBM 5100/5110/5106 tape unit

2023-10-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 24 Oct 2023 at 06:27, Mark Perullo via cctalk wrote: > > Hey Steve You're not talking to Steve, but a whole mailing list of hundreds of people. The rest of us don't know which Steve you mean. > I know this is a year later but I have the Nortronic Read Write heads you > were looking

[cctalk] Re: Looking for NORTRONICS Read/Write head for IBM 5100/5110/5106 tape unit

2023-10-23 Thread Mark Perullo via cctalk
Hey Steve I know this is a year later but I have the Nortronic Read Write heads you were looking for. They are currently on eBay. The listing is below. Just do a search and they will come up. Nortronics Magnetic Head Assembly. NOS Part 9164-0068. Radio Cart Machines. Hope this helps. Mark

[cctalk] Re: IBM 5100 discussion

2023-10-17 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Mon, 16 Oct 2023, jim stephens wrote: On 10/16/23 04:14, Steve Lewis via cctalk wrote: I'm here (voidstar) ? I think at the time I wasn't aware of cctalk, or it wasn't working for me at the time. The fellow who did this got into a lot of trouble, as they also did the XT/370 and PC/370, and

[cctalk] Re: IBM 5100 discussion

2023-10-16 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 10/16/23 04:14, Steve Lewis via cctalk wrote: I'm here (voidstar)  I think at the time I wasn't aware of cctalk, or it wasn't working for me at the time. The fellow who did this got into a lot of trouble, as they also did the XT/370 and PC/370, and later the 390 PCI and MC boards. I

[cctalk] Re: IBM 5100 discussion

2023-10-16 Thread Steve Lewis via cctalk
to PALM as early as 1972! (i.e. a manual similar to your Chapter 2 reference, but written during the SCAMP development - the instruction set was mostly the same, except they did add one instruction later to the IBM 5100; a shift left/rotate I think, I'll have to double check tomorrow) https

[cctalk] IBM 5100 discussion

2023-10-16 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
I have been pointed to the following discussion https://forum.vcfed.org/index.php?threads/ibm-5110-initial-info.1224000/page-2 There, voidstar78 was apparently trying to contact me. Since my mail addresses are all functional (noone else had any problem with them, be it my personal or our

[cctalk] Re: SCAMP at 61 (IBM Scientific Computer And Modular Processor) was Re: SCAMP at 50 (IBM 5100)

2023-08-01 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2023-08-01 12:59 p.m., Tom Stepleton via cctalk wrote: I have to assume that the SCAMP used in the IBM 5100 Portable Computer and relatives must have been a great deal smaller than the earlier machine. As such, a logical and unambiguous way to refer to it is "SCAMP Shrimpy.&quo

[cctalk] Re: SCAMP at 61 (IBM Scientific Computer And Modular Processor) was Re: SCAMP at 50 (IBM 5100)

2023-08-01 Thread Tom Stepleton via cctalk
I have to assume that the SCAMP used in the IBM 5100 Portable Computer and relatives must have been a great deal smaller than the earlier machine. As such, a logical and unambiguous way to refer to it is "SCAMP Shrimpy." I hope this is helpful, --Tom

[cctalk] Re: SCAMP at 61 (IBM Scientific Computer And Modular Processor) was Re: SCAMP at 50 (IBM 5100)

2023-08-01 Thread Steve Lewis via cctalk
Glad ya'll are in a good mood. And it was a Monday! On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 11:56 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 7/31/23 18:41, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > > The best collections include links/pointers to holdings elsewhere. > > As we all know, web sites and

[cctalk] Re: SCAMP at 61 (IBM Scientific Computer And Modular Processor) was Re: SCAMP at 50 (IBM 5100)

2023-07-31 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 7/31/23 18:41, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > The best collections include links/pointers to holdings elsewhere. As we all know, web sites and online content is forever --Chuck

[cctalk] Re: SCAMP at 61 (IBM Scientific Computer And Modular Processor) was Re: SCAMP at 50 (IBM 5100)

2023-07-31 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Organization of a large Scamp collection couldbe alot of work. On Mon, 31 Jul 2023, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: Somehow, I don't think my neighbors would appreciate taking their dog for my private collection. The best collections include links/pointers to holdings elsewhere.

[cctalk] Re: SCAMP at 61 (IBM Scientific Computer And Modular Processor) was Re: SCAMP at 50 (IBM 5100)

2023-07-31 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 7/31/23 18:21, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > Organization of a large Scamp collection couldbe alot of work. > Somehow, I don't think my neighbors would appreciate taking their dog for my private collection. --Chuck

[cctalk] Re: SCAMP at 61 (IBM Scientific Computer And Modular Processor) was Re: SCAMP at 50 (IBM 5100)

2023-07-31 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: I note that "SCAMP" has be (re) used several times in the bit-bashing biz. The NS SC/MP (INS8060) MPU was regularly called "Scamp". Unisys also had a multi-chip module for their "A" series mainframes called "Scamp":

[cctalk] Re: SCAMP at 61 (IBM Scientific Computer And Modular Processor) was Re: SCAMP at 50 (IBM 5100)

2023-07-31 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
I note that "SCAMP" has be (re) used several times in the bit-bashing biz. The NS SC/MP (INS8060) MPU was regularly called "Scamp". Unisys also had a multi-chip module for their "A" series mainframes called "Scamp": http://www.retrocomputingtasmania.com/home/projects/unisysaseries Finally,

[cctalk] Re: SCAMP at 61 (IBM Scientific Computer And Modular Processor) was Re: SCAMP at 50 (IBM 5100)

2023-07-31 Thread Steve Lewis via cctalk
Hey, it is interesting! It has a reference to microcode and a ROS/ROM type storage. Paul Friedl's January 1973 initial diagram of SCAMP includes a "circular shaped device" at the base - I always took it to be a hard drive platter, but maybe not - maybe it is this older SCAMP type storage (which

[cctalk] Re: SCAMP at 61 (IBM Scientific Computer And Modular Processor) was Re: SCAMP at 50 (IBM 5100)

2023-07-31 Thread ste...@malikoff.com steven--- via cctalk
Lee said > Note "Scientific Computer and Modular Processor (SCAMP) was developed during > 1961 and 1962" <> SCAMP (Special Computer APL Machine Portable) developed in > the early 1970s and the subject of the original post. Yes, I know. I still have that massive issue of PC World in which I

[cctalk] Re: SCAMP at 61 (IBM Scientific Computer And Modular Processor) was Re: SCAMP at 50 (IBM 5100)

2023-07-31 Thread Lee Courtney via cctalk
Note "S*cientific Computer and Modular Processor (SCAMP) was developed during 1961 and 1962*" <> SCAMP (Special Computer APL Machine Portable) developed in the early 1970s and the subject of the original post. On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 3:18 AM ste...@malikoff.com steven--- via cctalk <

[cctalk] Re: SCAMP at 61 (IBM Scientific Computer And Modular Processor) was Re: SCAMP at 50 (IBM 5100)

2023-07-31 Thread ste...@malikoff.com steven--- via cctalk
> On 07/31/2023 6:59 PM AEST Christian Corti via cctalk > wrote: > On Sun, 30 Jul 2023, ste...@malikoff.com ste...@malikoff.com wrote: > > Here's a relic from IBM's first SCAMP, a large ring binder (16 rings!) > > from Hursley, early 1960s. Unfortunately no SCAMP diagrams inside but to > >

[cctalk] Re: SCAMP at 61 (IBM Scientific Computer And Modular Processor) was Re: SCAMP at 50 (IBM 5100)

2023-07-31 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Sun, 30 Jul 2023, ste...@malikoff.com ste...@malikoff.com wrote: Here's a relic from IBM's first SCAMP, a large ring binder (16 rings!) from Hursley, early 1960s. Unfortunately no SCAMP diagrams inside but to this day it still contains drawings and paintings I did as a kid :) Either the

[cctalk] SCAMP at 61 (IBM Scientific Computer And Modular Processor) was Re: SCAMP at 50 (IBM 5100)

2023-07-29 Thread ste...@malikoff.com steven--- via cctalk
Dennis said > > Wait! There is a SCAMP other than Burroughs' Single Chip A-Series=20 > > Mainframe Processor. > > And then there's the SC/MP. Here's a relic from IBM's first SCAMP, a large ring binder (16 rings!) from Hursley, early 1960s. Unfortunately no SCAMP diagrams inside but to this

[cctalk] Re: SCAMP at 50 (IBM 5100)

2023-07-26 Thread Dennis Boone via cctalk
> Wait! There is a SCAMP other than Burroughs' Single Chip A-Series=20 > Mainframe Processor. And then there's the SC/MP. De

[cctalk] Re: SCAMP at 50 (IBM 5100)

2023-07-26 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
Wait! There is a SCAMP other than Burroughs' Single Chip A-Series Mainframe Processor. alan On 7/25/23 9:23 PM, Steve Lewis via cctalk wrote: For anyone interested, I'm placing my SCAMP notes here! Had an incredibly great opportunity to learn more about it.

[cctalk] SCAMP at 50 (IBM 5100)

2023-07-25 Thread Steve Lewis via cctalk
For anyone interested, I'm placing my SCAMP notes here! Had an incredibly great opportunity to learn more about it. https://voidstar.blog/scamp-a-review-50-years-later/

[cctalk] Re: QIC tape restorations (IBM 5100)

2023-03-27 Thread rescue via cctalk
On 2023-03-27 03:03, Steve Lewis via cctalk wrote: I've come across three original QIC tapes for the IBM 5100. DC300 I think, original IBM labels. They are in fair condition (the tape material itself seems fine, they are all on their reels), but the "rubbers" used to actual

[cctalk] QIC tape restorations (IBM 5100)

2023-03-27 Thread Steve Lewis via cctalk
I've come across three original QIC tapes for the IBM 5100. DC300 I think, original IBM labels. They are in fair condition (the tape material itself seems fine, they are all on their reels), but the "rubbers" used to actually actuate the reels is degraded. I came across an article o

[cctalk] Looking for NORTRONICS Read/Write head for IBM 5100/5110/5106 tape unit

2022-11-17 Thread Steve Lewis via cctalk
/ibm-5100-internal-tape-and-5106/ The head is about a 15mm x 20mm, with a 26mm ground extension on one side for mounting. A few months ago I contacted Nortronics. They had some stock that was close, but not this exact pin out (4-pins on one side, 6-pins on the other; not sure which is read vs write

[cctalk] Re: IBM 5100 emulation

2022-09-21 Thread Mark Wickens via cctalk
ted the Executive ROS of the IBM 5100. The PALM > opcodes between the 5100 and 5110 should be identical. So we have > used Christian Corti emulator code to run that Executive ROS (under Wintel > environment). However, the CRC checks and transition to the Language ROS > apparently

[cctalk] Re: IBM 5100 emulation

2022-09-21 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
I've poked around inside the 5100 some years ago, but most of my information came from the Maintenance Information Manual, and I only verified a little of it relating to the executable ROS. The executable ROS is split between a half card in slot H2, which is required for all 5100 models, and an

[cctalk] IBM 5100 emulation

2022-09-19 Thread Steve Lewis via cctalk
Greetings, we've extracted the Executive ROS of the IBM 5100. The PALM opcodes between the 5100 and 5110 should be identical. So we have used Christian Corti emulator code to run that Executive ROS (under Wintel environment). However, the CRC checks and transition to the Language ROS apparently

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-09 Thread Ryan de Laplante via cctalk
There is an IBM 5100 on eBay right now: https://www.ebay.com/itm/314137209812 <https://www.ebay.com/itm/314137209812> In 2018 I saw a BASIC model sell for $2500. I’ve seen a working APL model sell for $6150 in 2021. I’ve been keeping track of Lisa 1 sales on eBay for some years.

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-06 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Mon, 5 Sep 2022, jim stephens wrote: The unit I have is IBM. There was no floppy drive unit from IBM for the IBM 5100. Or do you have a model number? It only did single sided diskettes, low density.  It's the only device which The IBM 5114 handles single and double sided diskettes

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-06 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Mon, 5 Sep 2022, jim stephens wrote: the 5100 has an external connector.  The floppy drive is a floor unit about Yes, three Sub-D connectors. Two for the signals, one for power. the size of three AT units upright, with two single density floppies in it.  And that floppy drive (if you

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-06 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Mon, 5 Sep 2022, Tom Stepleton wrote: Or at least there as something that was sold in this way. Here is its brochure: http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/sykes/brochures/Sykes_Comm-Stor_5100_Brochure.pdf Interesting! (What is an IMF?) IMF = internal machine fix The 5100/5110 had a mechanism

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-05 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
for a 5100 would have been a bargain. We are neither talking about the 5150, nor about $3100 but $31,000 for a 5100 (see above). Or did I miss something? There was a third-party floppy drive for the IBM 5100 :-) Or at least there as something that was sold in this way. Here is its brochure

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-05 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 9/5/22 08:53, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: On Mon, 5 Sep 2022, Fred Cisin wrote: Well, it ain't in the 5150/5160 range! The 5100 new was $10K to $20K. On Sun, 4 Sep 2022, jim stephens wrote: I had a 5100 that a dentist had bought as soon as it  came out and he    

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-05 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
The Lisa is the first consumer grade GUI computer to come to market. The Xerox 8010 with the Star operating system preceded it by a couple years, but that was a high-end $50,000 (in 1981 dollars) workstation with big businesses as the target market. So it has some historical significance in

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-05 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
the 5100 has an external connector.  The floppy drive is a floor unit about the size of three AT units upright, with two single density floppies in it.  We used my unit as an engineering reference to do a floppy interface project which required 3740 compatability from our hardware. And

[cctalk] FS IBM 5100 Printer

2022-09-05 Thread Marvin Johnston via cctalk
I've got a printer for the IBM 5100 that I would like to sell. I can bring it to VCFMW, but only if it is sold ahead of time (too heavy to comfortably bring on spec.) Best reasonable offer. Marvin

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-05 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 12:49 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Haven't heard from you for a while! > Yep, and I missed you at the VCF this year. I decided to re-join this list when I happened upon it through a web search. The traffic is considerably less than it used to be so it's a

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-05 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
I played briefly with a pre-release Lisa (Berkeley Smalltalk). But then didn't see them again. I almost bought one later as a cheaper substitute for a Mac! It is historically significant. So is the 5100. But, they are totally different categories. It's like when I traded a Honda for a

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-05 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
The Lisa is the first consumer grade GUI computer to come to market. The Xerox 8010 with the Star operating system preceded it by a couple years, but that was a high-end $50,000 (in 1981 dollars) workstation with big businesses as the target market. So it has some historical significance in that

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-05 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
It continues to blow my mind that the Apple Lisa is worth anything. They used to be sold for almost nothing as Mac XL's, and tended to be temperamental. So when will the Apple Newton or Mac Plus be worth anything? :-) C

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-05 Thread Tom Stepleton via cctalk
a 5100! $3100 for a 5100 would have been a bargain. > > We are neither talking about the 5150, nor about $3100 but $31,000 for a > 5100 (see above). Or did I miss something? > There was a third-party floppy drive for the IBM 5100 :-) Or at least there as something that was sold in this wa

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-05 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Mon, 5 Sep 2022, Fred Cisin wrote: Well, it ain't in the 5150/5160 range! The 5100 new was $10K to $20K. On Sun, 4 Sep 2022, jim stephens wrote: I had a 5100 that a dentist had bought as soon as it  came out and he added the floppy drives and printer.  It was a direct IBM

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-05 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Well, it ain't in the 5150/5160 range! The 5100 new was $10K to $20K. On Sun, 4 Sep 2022, jim stephens wrote: I had a 5100 that a dentist had bought as soon as it  came out and he added the floppy drives and printer.  It was a direct IBM buy for 31000. On Mon, 5 Sep 2022, Christian Corti via

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-05 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Sun, 4 Sep 2022, jim stephens wrote: On 9/3/22 17:38, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: Well, it ain't in the 5150/5160 range! The 5100 new was $10K to $20K. I had a 5100 that a dentist had bought as soon as it  came out and he added the floppy drives and printer.  It was a direct IBM buy for

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-04 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 9/3/22 17:38, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: Well, it ain't in the 5150/5160 range! The 5100 new was $10K to $20K. I had a 5100 that a dentist had bought as soon as it  came out and he added the floppy drives and printer.  It was a direct IBM buy for 31000. thanks Also a fair amount of

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-03 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sat, 3 Sep 2022, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: I think there's a rather large disparity in value between the two systems. I'm not sure what an IBM 5100 would go for these days, but a Lisa 1 will generally sell in the $10K+ range minimum these days. I had two Lisa's with Twiggy drives: one

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-03 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
I think there's a rather large disparity in value between the two systems. I'm not sure what an IBM 5100 would go for these days, but a Lisa 1 will generally sell in the $10K+ range minimum these days. I had two Lisa's with Twiggy drives: one I sold for $9,600, and the other for $14,500

[cctalk] You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-03 Thread steven stengel via cctalk
This seems like a good place to ask this question - I'd like an Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system for my collection, and can trade a working IBM 5100 Portable PC. We'd probably have to meet in person to make the transaction. I'm in So CA. Thanks- Steven Stengel http://oldcomputers.net

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-07-02 Thread ben via cctalk
On 7/1/2019 11:54 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: Pennies will never stop being minted--the members of Congress representing the state of Illinois would not stand for it. In spite of costing more to make them than they are worth. The same could be said for Congresmen. :)

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-07-02 Thread Nemo via cctalk
On 01/07/2019, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote (in part): > On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 at 14:01, William Donzelli wrote (in > part): >> There are still a few institutions and older folks that still use >> checks (like the annoying people that hold up the line in a grocery >> store, writing out a check),

RE: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-07-01 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
USA paper currency used to be the size of punchcards. So, if one were to have a LOT of it, you could use the same trays, and counting machines, etc. Do you suppose that Hollerith had a lot of paper currency? On Mon, 1 Jul 2019, Rich Alderson via cctalk wrote: Actually, Hollerith designed his

RE: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-07-01 Thread Rich Alderson via cctalk
From: Fred Cisin Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 6:57 AM On Sat, 29 Jun 2019, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: >> US currency is very confusing to me. All the notes seem to be the same size >> and colour, so you can't readily sort them. I mean, I know America doesn't >> believe in helping people when

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-07-01 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Oh, but we are proud of our unremembered heritage, and fiercely resist change. We still use Fahrenheit. And efforts to "go metric" have made little headway. On Mon, 1 Jul 2019, dwight wrote: Not every thing makes sense to go metric. Clearly bold sizes are better off in fractional sizes. Also

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-07-01 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk
> On Jul 1, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk > wrote: > > > >>> A "Dime" is one tenth of a dollar. Or ten cents. Or $10 worth of drugs. >>> The coin is 17.91mm diameter, and the smallest coin in circulation. >>> A "Nickel" is five cents. or $5 worth of drugs. >>> The coin is

Re: STOP IT : "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-07-01 Thread Mike Loewen via cctalk
Subject: Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR Now that the dollar coin is a different color than the quarter, they don't end up mixed. But, the replacement of the Washington quarter, that even included when they were silver, wi

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-07-01 Thread dwight via cctalk
From: cctalk on behalf of Fred Cisin via cctalk Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 2:10 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR Now that the dollar coin

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-07-01 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Now that the dollar coin is a different color than the quarter, they don't end up mixed. But, the replacement of the Washington quarter, that even included when they were silver, with the commemorative quarters means they are now all different designs, and the Susan B. Anthony dollar coins no

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-07-01 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> A few years ago, one of the motorsports events that I help organize used > PayPal. The entry fee was around $1000-2000 (depending on the type of > entry) and I think we got around 50 entries that year. Most of the > competitors pay their entry fee on the last day of the "early entry" > deadline

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-07-01 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
On 7/1/19 10:09 AM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: Maybe for you. I did a group purchase of tickets for a club I am a member of. Almost everyone paid me for their tickets paid with checks. I help organize motorsports events; my expenses are reimbursed with checks. Paypal seems to be

Re: OT: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-07-01 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
On 7/1/19 10:01 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 at 17:46, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: I sold a $3500 car once for cash to a guy who sold his goods at a booth at fairs and shows. He received lots and lots of $20 bills in payment, so that is what he paid me with. I kept

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-07-01 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> Maybe for you. I did a group purchase of tickets for a club I am a > member of. Almost everyone paid me for their tickets paid with checks. > I help organize motorsports events; my expenses are reimbursed with checks. Paypal seems to be king for this sort of thing around here. -- Will

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-07-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 at 17:46, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > I sold a $3500 car once for cash to a guy who sold his goods at a booth > at fairs and shows. He received lots and lots of $20 bills in payment, > so that is what he paid me with. I kept the cash instead of depositing > it in the bank

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-07-01 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
On 7/1/19 5:01 AM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: In every other country I've visited or lived in -- about 30 or 40 of them -- banknotes are all different sizes, so that totally blind people can sort by size if they have a few of them. I daresay the very skilled can do it by absolute, not

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-07-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 at 15:26, Patrick Finnegan wrote: > Checks can be relatively convenient and cheap compared to other options. I > can (for free) send a check of any size to anyone I want by filling out a > form on my bank's website to pay someone (mostly limited by my account's > balance).

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-07-01 Thread Patrick Finnegan via cctalk
On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 8:01 AM William Donzelli via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > That is mostly the case here as well. Most under-40 people do not have > a checkbook anymore. In my business, I get maybe two payments per year > with checks - well under 1/10 of a percent of total

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-07-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 at 14:01, William Donzelli wrote: > > US currency is the most most seriously counterfeited in the world, due > to being useful almost anywhere. This is why the bills are not very > distinctive - you are supposed to look at them. Most counterfeits are > good, but not good

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-07-01 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> In every other country I've visited or lived in -- about 30 or 40 of > them -- banknotes are all different sizes, so that totally blind > people can sort by size if they have a few of them. I daresay the very > skilled can do it by absolute, not relative, size. Sighted people can > and do do it

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-07-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 29 Jun 2019 at 15:57, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > USA makes a pretense of accommodating disabilities, but is actually pretty > hostile to the disabled. :-( > The "new" paper currency, that is s'posedly good for blind people has > slightly different shades of the same colors. (!)

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-07-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 29 Jun 2019 at 13:39, William Donzelli wrote: > > Your knowledge is way out of date. I was first there about 25y ago, and last there about 17y ago. The much-vaunted redesign was, to my European eyes, so subtle as to be indistinguishable. No, I'm not kidding. > US currency changed about

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-30 Thread Paul Anderson via cctalk
em! Most tell me they have not seen them in years. > >> > >> Cindy > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of TeoZ > via > >> cctalk > >> Sent: Friday, June 28, 201

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-30 Thread Paul Anderson via cctalk
years. > > > > Cindy > > > > -Original Message- > > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of TeoZ > via > > cctalk > > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 2:36 PM > > To: Chuck Guzis; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts >

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-30 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
oZ via cctalk Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 2:36 PM To: Chuck Guzis; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR I have not seen any half dollars in circulation in some time. Th

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-30 Thread John Herron via cctalk
.org] On Behalf Of TeoZ via > cctalk > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 2:36 PM > To: Chuck Guzis; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an > IBM 5100 using OCR > > I have not seen a

Re: OT: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-29 Thread David C. Jenner via cctalk
Washington State Ferries still use 50 cent pieces and 2 dollar bills a lot. After years of receiving them as change, I finally asked why? The reason is they reduce the number of hand movements by one half. If you're sitting in a kiosk all day dolling out change, it can reduce repetitive

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-29 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
On 2019-06-29 9:15 a.m., Nemo Nusquam via cctalk wrote: On 06/29/19 06:39, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote (in part): US currency is very confusing to me. All the notes seem to be the same size and colour, so you can't readily sort them. Some countries also put Braille dots (besides the

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-29 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 6/29/19 3:39 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > You use nicknames for 2 denominations which most of us foreigners > don't know -- I still don't know which is a "nickel" (which is a metal > to me) and which is a "dime" (which is a Swedish chocolate-covered > sweet bar, of which I'm very fond

Re: OT: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-29 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
"Silver dollar" used to be a large coin. (38.1mm) It was the standard for casinos. When it was discontinued (1935), the casinos started to mint their own chips/tokens as a replacement. There was a brief attempt to revive the silver dollar in 1971 with the "Eisenhower Dollar". It is quite rare

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-29 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sat, 29 Jun 2019, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: US currency is very confusing to me. All the notes seem to be the same size and colour, so you can't readily sort them. I mean, I know America doesn't believe in helping people when they're sick, but it wasn't until I visited that I realised you

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-29 Thread Nemo Nusquam via cctalk
On 06/29/19 06:39, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote (in part): US currency is very confusing to me. All the notes seem to be the same size and colour, so you can't readily sort them. Some countries also put Braille dots (besides the different colours). Does the US have any such plans? N.

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-29 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> US currency is very confusing to me. All the notes seem to be the same > size and colour, so you can't readily sort them. I mean, I know > America doesn't believe in helping people when they're sick, but it > wasn't until I visited that I realised you saved up particular hatred > for the blind

Re: OT: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 22:55, Steven M Jones via cctalk wrote: > > Two weeks ago I was in London, and had brought my pound notes/coins from > a visit a few years earlier. When trying to buy lunch, the cashier > refused my £10 note since new £5 and £10 notes had been issued over a > year before. I

Re: OT: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 22:50, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote: > Yea, I'm just the right age to have seen them in circulation and have it as > a unit of measure for "just bigger than an inch". Sorry for the crazy > measurement... It's fine really. It's provoked an interesting if offtopic

Re: OT: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 18:57, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Oh, FAR FAR FAR less than 5%. *Chuckle* > Most residents of USA haven't seen a half dollar or "50 cent piece" in > decades. They are as much of an oddity as the $2 bill. They are > nominally still in circulation, most recent being

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 21:47, Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote: > > Just for fun, I went to the bank and bought about $1000 in half dollar and > dollar coins. My son collects them, and we went through them all. We did find > some silver half dollars. The ones we are not keeping now go to

Re: OT: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-29 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Fri, 28 Jun 2019, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote: Oddly, I, too, will trade computer items for coins and currency. I like the green kind with presidents. ;) Those are nice, but I'd rather have the ones with a picture of Ben Franklin, who was not a president.

Re: OT: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-29 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> If the note is in good condition, I'll buy it from you. I've been > collecting US coins on and off for years, and started on GB coinage when I > lived over there. Now I collect about everything, including currency, AND > WILL TRADE COMPUTER ITEMS FOR COINS AND CURRENCY! Oddly, I, too, will

Re: OT: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-28 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
On 2019-06-28 7:50 p.m., Nemo Nusquam via cctalk wrote: On 06/28/19 16:54, Steven M Jones via cctalk wrote (in part): On 06/28/2019 11:11, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: Canada also replaced the $1- and $2-bill with coins (26.5mm and 28mm, resp.). Oh, I know. I was questioned by the RCMP for

Re: OT: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-28 Thread Paul Anderson via cctalk
If the note is in good condition, I'll buy it from you. I've been collecting US coins on and off for years, and started on GB coinage when I lived over there. Now I collect about everything, including currency, AND WILL TRADE COMPUTER ITEMS FOR COINS AND CURRENCY! Paul On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at

Re: OT: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-28 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
On 6/28/19 1:54 PM, Steven M Jones via cctalk wrote: On 06/28/2019 11:11, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: Canada also replaced the $1- and $2-bill with coins (26.5mm and 28mm, resp.). Oh, I know. I was questioned by the RCMP for spending a $2 bill that was in my leftover Canadian cash from

Re: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR (among other things)

2019-06-28 Thread Boris Gimbarzevsky via cctalk
That was a very interesting read! The type of thing I could see myself doing over 40 years ago when once I'd come up with a neat idea and either did preliminary coding or hardware design suggesting it would work I'd jump right into it and find optimistic 1 month project timelines stretching

Re: OT: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-28 Thread Nemo Nusquam via cctalk
On 06/28/19 16:54, Steven M Jones via cctalk wrote (in part): On 06/28/2019 11:11, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: Canada also replaced the $1- and $2-bill with coins (26.5mm and 28mm, resp.). Oh, I know. I was questioned by the RCMP for spending a $2 bill that was in my leftover Canadian cash

Re: OT: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-28 Thread E. Groenenberg via cctalk
On Fri, June 28, 2019 18:57, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: >>> I saw this half-dollar sized plastic fob on the desk and asked what it >>> was for. > > On Fri, 28 Jun 2019, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: >> If I may just say -- only about 5% of humanity know how big that is. I >> don't. I don't

Re: OT: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-28 Thread Steven M Jones via cctalk
On 06/28/2019 11:11, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: Canada also replaced the $1- and $2-bill with coins (26.5mm and 28mm, resp.). Oh, I know. I was questioned by the RCMP for spending a $2 bill that was in my leftover Canadian cash from a previous trip years before. Two weeks ago I was in

Re: OT: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-28 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 1:40 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 6/28/19 12:18 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > > > > FWIW, I just checked my "loose change" container that sits atop my > > bedroom dresser. There were two Kennedy half-dollars--one from 1968 and > >

RE: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-28 Thread Electronics Plus via cctalk
"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR I have not seen any half dollars in circulation in some time. They are just too big to fit in people skinny jeans these days. -Original Message- From: Chuck Guzis via cctalk Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 3:18 P

Re: OT: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-28 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 6/28/19 12:18 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > FWIW, I just checked my "loose change" container that sits atop my > bedroom dresser. There were two Kennedy half-dollars--one from 1968 and > the other from 1983. I suspect that a great many are still in > circulation. For those who have

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