Re: Interest in a DiscFerret?

2019-01-11 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 1/10/19 7:05 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > But getting too cheap on this one-off sort of stuff gets silly after awhile. But cctlk navel contemplation and bile generation is sooo much more fun than producing anything USEFUL

Re: Interest in a DiscFerret?

2019-01-10 Thread ben via cctalk
On 1/10/2019 7:41 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 1/10/19 5:16 PM, Chris Pye via cctalk wrote: There is a 13 sector version of ADTPro. All you need is a working Apple II or IIe with a floppy drive and serial card (or ethernet card). It can even bootstrap the Apple into 13 sector DOS 3.2

Re: Interest in a DiscFerret?

2019-01-10 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 1/10/19 5:16 PM, Chris Pye via cctalk wrote: > There is a 13 sector version of ADTPro. All you need is a working > Apple II or IIe with a floppy drive and serial card (or ethernet > card). It can even bootstrap the Apple into 13 sector DOS 3.2 mode > and then you can read and transfer disk

Re: Interest in a DiscFerret?

2019-01-10 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Fri, 11 Jan 2019, Chris Pye via cctalk wrote: There is a 13 sector version of ADTPro. All you need is a working Apple II or IIe with a floppy drive and serial card (or ethernet card). It can even bootstrap the Apple into 13 sector DOS 3.2 mode and then you can read and transfer disk images

Re: Interest in a DiscFerret?

2019-01-10 Thread Chris Pye via cctalk
> On 11 Jan 2019, at 10:33 am, Guy Dunphy via cctalk > wrote: > > That's a very good point, thanks. Hadn't occured to me, but of course the > vast majority of Apple IIs ever sold used the 16 sector format. So that was > the target market. > Since almost all my A2 disks are DOS 3.2 13 sector,

Re: Interest in a DiscFerret?

2019-01-10 Thread Guy Dunphy via cctalk
At 12:03 PM 10/01/2019 -0800, you wrote: >On Thu, 10 Jan 2019, Guy Dunphy wrote: >> All my Apple II disks are DOS 3.2. When 3.3 came out, it was a) too much >> trouble >> to convert everything up, and b) ... read that 'missing the wave' story. >> It gave me a sour feeling about 3.3. Totally my

Re: Interest in a DiscFerret?

2019-01-10 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Thu, 10 Jan 2019, Guy Dunphy wrote: All my Apple II disks are DOS 3.2. When 3.3 came out, it was a) too much trouble to convert everything up, and b) ... read that 'missing the wave' story. It gave me a sour feeling about 3.3. Totally my own fault, but still. If you get any of the existing

Re: Interest in a DiscFerret?

2019-01-10 Thread Guy Dunphy via cctalk
At 09:07 AM 10/01/2019 -0400, you wrote: >One problem you may encounter reading LIF format diskettes on a PC using >these tools is many LIF diskettes are formatted 256 bytes/sector and >there is lots of PC diskette controller out there that cannot deal with >that including all USB diskette

Re: Interest in a DiscFerret?

2019-01-10 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Thu, 10 Jan 2019, Paul Berger wrote: One problem you may encounter reading LIF format diskettes on a PC using these tools is many LIF diskettes are formatted 256 bytes/sector and there is lots of PC diskette controller out there that cannot deal with that including *All* standard PC floppy

Re: Interest in a DiscFerret?

2019-01-10 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
On 2019-01-10 4:43 a.m., Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2019, Guy Dunphy wrote: * Also I have some old HP equipment that uses HP-format floppies. LIF? They're not DOS compatible.  A HP 1630G logic analyzer with 9121 GPIB dual floppy drive, and a HP  8 data generator.

Re: Interest in a DiscFerret?

2019-01-10 Thread r.stricklin via cctalk
On Jan 9, 2019, at 12:12 PM, Al Kossow via cctech wrote: > Universal joy through the reinvention of the wheel (badly) Alan Kay called this "reinventing the flat tire", a turn of phrase I rather fancy. ok bear. -- until further notice

Re: Interest in a DiscFerret?

2019-01-10 Thread Guy Dunphy via cctalk
At 09:43 AM 10/01/2019 +0100, you wrote: >On Thu, 10 Jan 2019, Guy Dunphy wrote: >> * Also I have some old HP equipment that uses HP-format floppies. LIF? >Now that is as easy as it can be. There's lif_utils from Tony Duell >(http://www.hpcc.org/datafile/hpil/lif_utils.html), or the HP LIF

Re: Interest in a DiscFerret?

2019-01-10 Thread Guy Dunphy via cctalk
At 07:34 PM 9/01/2019 -0800, you wrote: >On Thu, 10 Jan 2019, Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote: >> ... >> What other all-formats floppy R/W and data recovery tools do people here >> know of? >> Comments of their functionality? > >A couple of questions to discuss. Believe it or not, they are not

Re: Interest in a DiscFerret?

2019-01-10 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Thu, 10 Jan 2019, Guy Dunphy wrote: * Also I have some old HP equipment that uses HP-format floppies. LIF? They're not DOS compatible. A HP 1630G logic analyzer with 9121 GPIB dual floppy drive, and a HP 8 data generator. For both machines I have old floppies containing critical

Re: Interest in a DiscFerret?

2019-01-09 Thread Michael Mulhern via cctalk
AppleII have a look at AppleSauce to USB connect an Apple Disk][ to a Mac to flux read the diskettes. If you’re not Mac interested, maybe someone could do them for you. I would, but I’m in Sydney , AU. //m On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 1:26 pm, Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote: > At 03:39 PM 9/01/2019

Re: Interest in a DiscFerret?

2019-01-09 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Thu, 10 Jan 2019, Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote: Has anyone used a DiscFerret, to actually extract files from say, Apple II disks and HP LIF disks? The website- https://discferret.com/wiki/DiscFerret It seemms like the project is dead since 2013, was only ever for Linux, and never included

Re: Interest in a DiscFerret?

2019-01-09 Thread Chris Pye via cctalk
> On 10 Jan 2019, at 12:26 pm, Guy Dunphy via cctalk > wrote: > > * At the moment I'm attempting to restore my old, heavily modified Apple II > to working condition, > and then archive all my old Apple II files on floppies to PC. Part of a > project to document a > bunch of projects I

Re: Interest in a DiscFerret?

2019-01-09 Thread Guy Dunphy via cctalk
At 03:39 PM 9/01/2019 -0500, you wrote: > >I had the bug to do something similar.. then I found SuperCard Pro. >It's closed hardware but the USB protocol is fully documented. Because >if that, it's almost a perfect commodity turn-key hardware bridge to raw >flux-level transitions - in or out.

Re: Interest in a DiscFerret?

2019-01-09 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 1/9/19 2:06 PM, Fred Jan Kraan via cctalk wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Is there any interest in a DiscFerret in good working order? > > If so contact me off-list. I don't have a plan yet for the case interest > is >1. So, I accidentally replied to the list as well and it c

Re: Interest in a DiscFerret?

2019-01-09 Thread alan--- via cctalk
I had the bug to do something similar.. then I found SuperCard Pro. It's closed hardware but the USB protocol is fully documented. Because if that, it's almost a perfect commodity turn-key hardware bridge to raw flux-level transitions - in or out. It's $100 and in-stock. One could

Re: Interest in a DiscFerret?

2019-01-09 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 1/9/19 12:05 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen via cctalk wrote: > Less finished (ok, unfinished) project Just what the world needs, more half-baked floppy reading hardware and no software, just like the stupid thing on hackaday.

Re: Interest in a DiscFerret?

2019-01-09 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen via cctalk
at 8:17 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > On 1/9/19 2:06 PM, Fred Jan Kraan via cctalk wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > > > Is there any interest in a DiscFerret in good working order? > > > > If so contact me off-list. I don't have a plan yet for the case inter

Re: Interest in a DiscFerret?

2019-01-09 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 1/9/19 2:06 PM, Fred Jan Kraan via cctalk wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Is there any interest in a DiscFerret in good working order? > > If so contact me off-list. I don't have a plan yet for the case interest > is >1. > What were you hoping to get for it? I hav

Interest in a DiscFerret?

2019-01-09 Thread Fred Jan Kraan via cctalk
Hi Everyone, Is there any interest in a DiscFerret in good working order? If so contact me off-list. I don't have a plan yet for the case interest is >1. Fred Jan