Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-12 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Tue, 12 Feb 2019, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: Lattice C was recommended by Microsoft to OEMs in the DOS 1.-2. days. Two-step compilation process LC1, LC2, then link for executable. Microsoft didn't yet have their own C. Microsoft C 1.0 WAS Lattice C. 1983? (so, after recommending it, they

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-12 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 2/12/19 4:06 PM, Frank McConnell via cctalk wrote: > I remember moving Lattice C v2 from IBM PC diskettes to an HP 150. It was > MS-DOS applications and compiler and linker worked on the 150. No copy > protection. Lattice C was recommended by Microsoft to OEMs in the DOS 1.-2. days. Two-step

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-12 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
Is Lattice C 2.whatever for 8086 uncommon? I have a copy on a couple of floppies. --Chuck

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-12 Thread Frank McConnell via cctalk
On Feb 12, 2019, at 14:16, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 2:55 PM Ethan Dicks via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 10:08 AM Phil Pemberton via cctalk >> wrote: >>> Does anyone have copies of any of the following -- or any other C >>

DEC Rainbow software (was Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers)

2019-02-12 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 5:16 PM Warner Losh wrote: >> > Does anyone have copies of any of the following... >> >* Lattice C >> >> Entirely randomly, I just opened a box I received today. Expected in >> the box was the DEC Rainbow. Unexpected was an original box of >> Lattice C 2.15 for 8086 -

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-12 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 2:55 PM Ethan Dicks via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 10:08 AM Phil Pemberton via cctalk > wrote: > > Does anyone have copies of any of the following -- or any other C > > compilers for the 68K which were around at that time? > > > >*

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-12 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 10:08 AM Phil Pemberton via cctalk wrote: > Does anyone have copies of any of the following -- or any other C > compilers for the 68K which were around at that time? > >* Lattice C Entirely randomly, I just opened a box I received today. Expected in the box was the DEC

Re: Amiga, AtariST, soft repos [was: Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers]

2019-02-10 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
Guys, Thanks for the tips and info. Wrt: - C-Lab Notator - I do not think I will need this, as it seems to be musician's stuff. - Amiga vs Atari quality - I have never had any hands on experience with AtariST, so I will stick to other people's opinions for a while... - TOSEC - I have che

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-09 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Al Kossow > I have a source tape. I'm trying to figure out why modern tar doesn't > understand it. I had an issue reading some TAR's of Unix V7 stuff; I brought up an older version of TAR under Windoze and they read fine with it. I don't recall if I figured out what the proble

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-09 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 2/9/19 10:35 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 2/7/19 8:05 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > >> I have the man pages for it, the assembler and linker, the c.out format it >> produced, etc if those are any use/interest. > > I have a source tape. I'm trying to figure out why moder

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-09 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 2/9/19 10:39 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > There is also an MIT compiler tape around with a bunch of different PCC ports > including the Brooklyn Poly x86 compiler. http://bitsavers.org/bits/MIT/trix/MIT_Compiler_Tape was mistaken about the x86 compiler origins there are a lot more ver

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-09 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 2/6/19 11:45 AM, Tom Uban via cctalk wrote: > I have a copy of the source for a set of 68k tools (compiler, assembler, > loader, etc) > which was based on work done by Chris Terman at MIT. This work was done back > in > the mid 80s, so some work is likely needed to compile with modern tools

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-09 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 2/7/19 8:05 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > I have the man pages for it, the assembler and linker, the c.out format it > produced, etc if those are any use/interest. I have a source tape. I'm trying to figure out why modern tar doesn't understand it.

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-09 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 2/7/19 10:09 PM, Doug Salot wrote: > Alcyon as in Regulus?   Pretty sure they got it from Green Hills. Copyright 1982 Alcyon Corporation 8716 Production Ave. San Diego, Ca. 92121 @(#)optab.c 2.3 11/15/84

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-08 Thread Jeffrey S. Worley via cctalk
On Fri, 2019-02-08 at 12:00 -0600, cctalk-requ...@classiccmp.org wrote: > Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers There is a GNU OS for the Atari 68k-based ST, TT, and Falcon computers which might be fun to play with. It is called MiNT. FreeMiNT and SpareMiNT are two distros. They are availa

Re: Amiga, AtariST, soft repos [was: Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers]

2019-02-07 Thread Sam O'nella via cctalk
> > tl;dr: Is there a software repository for AtariST comparable to Aminet? > > I don't follow it much, so I can't really say for sure what systems or software are in the archive. But there was an effort for collecting "all" games and software for many systems called TOSEC. Unfortunately, it

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-07 Thread Doug Salot via cctalk
Alcyon as in Regulus? Pretty sure they got it from Green Hills. And Green Hills is still around. On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 2:02 PM Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 2/7/19 12:17 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: > > > $ set def [steve.cpm68k.c.preproc] > > 'steve' == Steve Williams > > this

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-07 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 2/7/19 12:17 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: > $ set def [steve.cpm68k.c.preproc] 'steve' == Steve Williams this is the Alcyon C cross-compiler

Re: Amiga, AtariST, soft repos [was: Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers]

2019-02-07 Thread Ethan O'Toole via cctalk
(especially if they started with MS DOS, as I observed). OTOH, in retrospect, I wonder if I would spent the money wiser by choosing AtariST or going straight to 286 (not the same experience, I know, but cheap and easier to sell away). Or, if I wanted it really cheap, C128 I grew up Atari 8bit th

Amiga, AtariST, soft repos [was: Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers]

2019-02-07 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Thu, Feb 07, 2019 at 09:06:03AM -0600, John Foust via cctalk wrote: > At 03:13 PM 2/6/2019, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote: > >Lattice was the thing, back when I had Amiga. Too bad I could not > >afford a harddisk :-). > > As I related here back in 2005 and 2007: > > I believe I stuck with Manx

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-07 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 1:35 PM emanuel stiebler via cctalk wrote: > On 2019-02-07 11:34, Ron Pool via cctalk wrote: > > The CP/M-68K 1.0x source distribution at > > http://www.uxpro.com/cpm/www.cpm.z80.de/source.html includes a VAX/VMS > > distribution of Digital Research's 68K cross development s

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-07 Thread emanuel stiebler via cctalk
On 2019-02-07 11:34, Ron Pool via cctalk wrote: > The CP/M-68K 1.0x source distribution at > http://www.uxpro.com/cpm/www.cpm.z80.de/source.html includes a VAX/VMS > distribution of Digital Research's 68K cross development software for > VAX/VMS. After unpacking the source distribution, look in v1

RE: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-07 Thread Ron Pool via cctalk
The CP/M-68K 1.0x source distribution at http://www.uxpro.com/cpm/www.cpm.z80.de/source.html includes a VAX/VMS distribution of Digital Research's 68K cross development software for VAX/VMS. After unpacking the source distribution, look in v102/cross for that distribution. Excerpt from v102/cross

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-07 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Bill Gunshannon > What about all the cross compilers that ran on PDP-11's? Good point; by coincidence, I just found the stuff about the 68K cross-compiler from Alcyon (in San Diego) which we used at Proteon; it ran on an -11/73 running Ultrix. According to the ad sheet, it also

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-07 Thread John Foust via cctalk
At 03:13 PM 2/6/2019, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote: >Lattice was the thing, back when I had Amiga. Too bad I could not >afford a harddisk :-). As I related here back in 2005 and 2007: I believe I stuck with Manx Aztec C throughout my entire era of Amiga development. I liked it because it was mo

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-07 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 3:50 AM Phil Pemberton via cctalk wrote: > On Wed, 6 Feb 2019, Tomasz Rola wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 06, 2019 at 03:08:14PM +, Phil Pemberton via cctalk wrote: > >> I'm (still) trying to reverse-engineer a ton of M68K ROM code which > >> was apparently compiled with a cir

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-07 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 2/7/19 4:49 AM, Phil Pemberton via cctalk wrote: > On Wed, 6 Feb 2019, Tomasz Rola wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 06, 2019 at 03:08:14PM +, Phil Pemberton via cctalk >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm (still) trying to reverse-engineer a ton of M68K ROM code which >>> was apparently compiled with a ci

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-07 Thread Phil Pemberton via cctalk
On Wed, 6 Feb 2019, John Ames wrote: I know there's an old (I think) official Sega Genesis devkit that's, erm, "around" on various console homebrew sites. No idea which exact C compiler is included, but it's not too difficult to find. Thanks for that, John - I think I've just found the devkit

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-07 Thread Phil Pemberton via cctalk
On Wed, 6 Feb 2019, Tomasz Rola wrote: On Wed, Feb 06, 2019 at 03:08:14PM +, Phil Pemberton via cctalk wrote: Hi, I'm (still) trying to reverse-engineer a ton of M68K ROM code which was apparently compiled with a circa-1990 C compiler. Does anyone have copies of any of the following -- or

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-06 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 2/6/19 1:23 PM, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote: > On Wed, Feb 06, 2019 at 10:13:57PM +0100, Tomasz Rola via cctalk > wrote: [...] >> quite a few compilers in there: >> >> http://aminet.net/tree?path=dev > > And on page 1 of 5 in /dev/asm section I have spotted at least two > disassemblers, ther

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-06 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Wed, Feb 06, 2019 at 10:13:57PM +0100, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote: [...] > quite a few compilers in there: > > http://aminet.net/tree?path=dev And on page 1 of 5 in /dev/asm section I have spotted at least two disassemblers, there might be more. Caution: never used any. http://aminet.net/de

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-06 Thread Tom Uban via cctalk
I have a copy of the source for a set of 68k tools (compiler, assembler, loader, etc) which was based on work done by Chris Terman at MIT. This work was done back in the mid 80s, so some work is likely needed to compile with modern tools. Let me know if you would like a copy. On 2/6/19 10:27 AM,

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-06 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Wed, Feb 06, 2019 at 06:44:27PM +0100, Götz Hoffart wrote: > Hi, > > I could offer Lattice C 3 and 5 for 68k / Atari ST. > > Regards > Götz Lattice was the thing, back when I had Amiga. Too bad I could not afford a harddisk :-). BTW, I just recalled the Aminet is still there and seems to be

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-06 Thread Götz Hoffart via cctalk
Hi, I could offer Lattice C 3 and 5 for 68k / Atari ST. Regards Götz ... auf dem Sprung ... > Am 06.02.2019 um 17:21 schrieb Tomasz Rola via cctalk : > >> On Wed, Feb 06, 2019 at 03:08:14PM +, Phil Pemberton via cctalk wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm (still) trying to reverse-engineer a ton of M6

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-06 Thread John Ames via cctalk
I know there's an old (I think) official Sega Genesis devkit that's, erm, "around" on various console homebrew sites. No idea which exact C compiler is included, but it's not too difficult to find.

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-06 Thread John Foust via cctalk
At 12:26 PM 2/6/2019, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: >OTOH, at home, I'd had an Amiga since 1986 and used a variety of >native tools (Lattice C later SAS/C, and various assemblers either >commercial or from a Fish Disk). Somewhere I have the DOS-hosted C compiler for the Amiga that was part of the

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-06 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Phil Pemberton > * Anything not on this list ;) The TRIX project at MIT-LCS did a 68K compiler very early on (soon after the first 68K wa released)x, using Steve Johnson's Portable C Compiler as a base. Noel

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-06 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 10:27 AM Ethan Dicks wrote: > On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 9:08 AM Phil Pemberton via cctalk > wrote: > > I'm (still) trying to reverse-engineer a ton of M68K ROM code which was > > apparently compiled with a circa-1990 C compiler. > > > Does anyone have copies of any of the foll

RE: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-06 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
e- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Phil Pemberton > via cctalk > Sent: 06 February 2019 15:08 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Looking for: 68000 C compilers > > Hi, > > I'm (still) trying to reverse-engineer a ton of M68K ROM code which was > apparently

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-06 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 9:08 AM Phil Pemberton via cctalk wrote: > I'm (still) trying to reverse-engineer a ton of M68K ROM code which was > apparently compiled with a circa-1990 C compiler. I used to do a lot of m68k ROM code development c. 1985-1993... > Does anyone have copies of any of the fo

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-06 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Wed, Feb 06, 2019 at 03:08:14PM +, Phil Pemberton via cctalk wrote: > Hi, > > I'm (still) trying to reverse-engineer a ton of M68K ROM code which > was apparently compiled with a circa-1990 C compiler. > > Does anyone have copies of any of the following -- or any other C > compilers for th

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-06 Thread emanuel stiebler via cctalk
On 2019-02-06 10:08, Phil Pemberton via cctalk wrote: > Hi, > > I'm (still) trying to reverse-engineer a ton of M68K ROM code which was > apparently compiled with a circa-1990 C compiler. > AT&T B1 UNIX? And, we did at this time a lot on the OS/9 on microware. But I shink there is still a copyr

Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-06 Thread Phil Pemberton via cctalk
Hi, I'm (still) trying to reverse-engineer a ton of M68K ROM code which was apparently compiled with a circa-1990 C compiler. Does anyone have copies of any of the following -- or any other C compilers for the 68K which were around at that time? * Sierra Systems 68000 C compiler (was part