Re: XXDP on PDP-11/03

2019-08-14 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
> I don't know if the front console on the early UNIBUS machines works without > any memory on the UNIBUS - I'm too lazy to check. I have this vague memory > that > they do, though. The front console on the '45 indeed does run just fine with no UNIBUS (or FASTBUS) memory in the machine. Its is

Re: XXDP on PDP-11/03

2019-08-14 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Brent Hilpert > I wouldn't have thought any of the (various 11 CPU) ODTs used > interrupts for the console They don't. > Don't know which CPU Noel was referring to. The OP was having problems with an LSI-11 (M7264 quad card); I was working with an LSI-11/2 (M7270 dual

Re: XXDP on PDP-11/03

2019-08-14 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Allison Parent > ! Seriously? ... Memory of some form there is a must. I don't know about you, but my approach in looking into hardware issues is often to start by reducing things to the simplest possible configuration that exhibits the failure. (I asssume the various reasons

Re: XXDP on PDP-11/03

2019-08-14 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2019-Aug-14, at 1:26 PM, Allison Parent via cctalk wrote: > IPhoned it in! > >> On Aug 14, 2019, at 2:19 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> From: Jonathan (systems_glitch) > >> Yep, fun times on LSI-11/2! > > Heh, this one was _utterly trivial_ compared to the 'must have working

Re: XXDP on PDP-11/03

2019-08-14 Thread Allison Parent via cctalk
IPhoned it in! > On Aug 14, 2019, at 2:19 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk > wrote: > > From: Jonathan (systems_glitch) > Yep, fun times on LSI-11/2! Heh, this one was _utterly trivial_ compared to the 'must have working memory at 0 or ODT won't start'! (I don't think I've ever seen that one

Re: XXDP on PDP-11/03

2019-08-14 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Jonathan (systems_glitch) > Yep, fun times on LSI-11/2! Heh, this one was _utterly trivial_ compared to the 'must have working memory at 0 or ODT won't start'! (I don't think I've ever seen that one in DEC documentation anywhere...) Noel

Re: XXDP on PDP-11/03

2019-08-14 Thread Douglas Taylor via cctalk
On 8/14/2019 10:17 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > From: Paul Koning > Isn't the interrupt disabled by RESET? Nope. On the -11/03 and KDF11-A, BEVNT is wired straight into the CPU, and there's no internal register to control it. The BDV11 does have a register which can

Re: XXDP on PDP-11/03

2019-08-14 Thread systems_glitch via cctalk
Yep, fun times on LSI-11/2! Some configurations also won't boot unless it's on, if I remember correctly. I suppose this is part of the reason that LSI-11/2 CPU boards are so cheap! Thanks, Jonathan On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 10:17 AM Noel Chiappa via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >

Re: XXDP on PDP-11/03

2019-08-14 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Paul Koning > Isn't the interrupt disabled by RESET? Nope. On the -11/03 and KDF11-A, BEVNT is wired straight into the CPU, and there's no internal register to control it. The BDV11 does have a register which can enable/disable the LTC (it connects BEVNT to ground via a

Re: XXDP on PDP-11/03

2019-08-14 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Aug 14, 2019, at 7:31 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk > wrote: > >> From: Jerry Weiss > >> I turned BEVENT off and it boots successfully. I am not immediately >> sure why this is necessary. > > If an LTC interrupt happens before the OS has set up the LTC vector, etc, > hilarity ensues. >

Re: XXDP on PDP-11/03

2019-08-14 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Jerry Weiss > I turned BEVENT off and it boots successfully. I am not immediately > sure why this is necessary. If an LTC interrupt happens before the OS has set up the LTC vector, etc, hilarity ensues. E.g. the LTC has to be turned off before UNIX V6 will boot on an -11/23:

Re: XXDP on PDP-11/03

2019-08-14 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
a different version of XXDP to run on the PDP-11/03? Doug -- Nigel Johnson MSc., MIEEE VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU Amateur Radio, the origin of the open-source concept! You can reach me by voice on Skype: TILBURY2591 If time travel ever will be possible, it already is. Ask me again yesterday

Re: XXDP on PDP-11/03

2019-08-13 Thread Jerry Weiss via cctalk
wever I can't boot XXDP - it halts at 000104. Do I need to use a different version of XXDP to run on the PDP-11/03? Doug

XXDP on PDP-11/03

2019-08-13 Thread Douglas Taylor via cctalk
/ terminator board and I use this to boot the RX02 emulator.  Works fine when I boot RT11, however I can't boot XXDP - it halts at 000104. Do I need to use a different version of XXDP to run on the PDP-11/03? Doug

Re: Extra copy of "LSI-11, PDP-11/03 User's Manual"

2019-05-11 Thread Todd Goodman via cctalk
with an extra copy of "LSI-11, PDP-11/03 User's Manual" (EK-LSI11-TM-003). I'd like to pass it along to someone, provided I'm reimbursed _most_ of my eBait expenditure on it (it was not, alas, cheap). Anyone interested? Noel

Extra copy of "LSI-11, PDP-11/03 User's Manual"

2019-05-10 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
As a result of an inventory error on my part, I wound up with an extra copy of "LSI-11, PDP-11/03 User's Manual" (EK-LSI11-TM-003). I'd like to pass it along to someone, provided I'm reimbursed _most_ of my eBait expenditure on it (it was not, alas, cheap). Anyone interested? Noel

PDP 11/03 for sale (re-post with corrections, updates)

2017-05-16 Thread Sellam Ismail via cctalk
I posted for sale last week a "LSI 11" system which I've since had help properly identifying as an 11/03. I never called it an 11/34 but my photobin indicated it was, and some people were confused, so my apologies. The updated information is in the replies to the original ad (link below), along

Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

2016-02-01 Thread Eric Smith
On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 10:24 PM, John Wilson wrote: >>I'd really like to get the F11 base instruction set control (part of >>the DCF11 hybrid) and the KEF11-B CIS (six chip hybrid spanning two >>40-pin DIP sockets) to be dumped in this way, but only if someone is >>willing to

Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

2016-02-01 Thread Henk Gooijen
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Pete Lancashire Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 5:22 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option Spend the extra few dollars (or what your currency is) and pack it in a very strong box. I've

USPS: Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

2016-02-01 Thread Ken Seefried
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016, Pete Lancashire wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Henk Gooijen >> wrote: >> >> Spend the extra few dollars (or what your currency is) and pack it in a >> very strong box. I've actually had EPROMs show up cracked in half > >Seconded. The

Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

2016-01-31 Thread Eric Smith
On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Brian L. Stuart wrote: > I'll be glad to loan them to you for the good of the community and history. That would be great, thanks! I'll email you my contact information. Could you please post the markings of the other 40-pin chips as

Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

2016-01-31 Thread Brian L. Stuart
On Sat, 1/30/16, Eric Smith <space...@gmail.com> wrote: > Does anyone have a PDP-11/03 or LSI-11 with the KEV11-C CIS > (Commercial Instruction Set) option? It may have also been known as > DIS (Dibol Instruction Set).  It apparently consists of two microcode > ROM chips (MICROMs

Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

2016-01-31 Thread John Wilson
On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 05:16:18PM -0700, Eric Smith wrote: >On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Henk Gooijen wrote: >> are yo looking for the 11/03 CPU board, or is the >> CIS "QIL" chip enough? QIL=Quad In Line , I made that up >> as the CIS chip I am thinking of si 40

Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

2016-01-31 Thread Pete Lancashire
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 1:16 AM > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option > > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Henk Gooijen <henk.gooi...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >> are yo looking for the 11/03

Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

2016-01-31 Thread Eric Smith
On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 2:24 AM, Henk Gooijen wrote: > OK, if nobody in the USA steps up, I will check where I have > stored that little box. At least, I am pretty sure I have that chip. > I can do that this week. Insured shipping would not cost much > is it is tiny

Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

2016-01-31 Thread Eric Smith
On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 11:38 AM, John Wilson wrote: > On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 05:16:18PM -0700, Eric Smith wrote: >>Just looking for the CIS chip(s), and just to borrow long enough to >>dump the microcode. > > This is the first I'm hearing that there was a CIS micROM option for

Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

2016-01-31 Thread Tothwolf
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016, Pete Lancashire wrote: On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Henk Gooijen wrote: OK, if nobody in the USA steps up, I will check where I have stored that little box. At least, I am pretty sure I have that chip. I can do that this week. Insured

Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

2016-01-31 Thread John Wilson
On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 03:52:57PM -0700, Eric Smith wrote: >I think the KEV11-C is not full CIS, but rather a subset. It's usually >described as DIBOL Instruction Set (DIS). OK the DIS part is hazily familiar, but still, neat! >> I have the QIL CIS micROM for the LSI-11/23, and I too have been

PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

2016-01-30 Thread Eric Smith
Does anyone have a PDP-11/03 or LSI-11 with the KEV11-C CIS (Commercial Instruction Set) option? It may have also been known as DIS (Dibol Instruction Set). It apparently consists of two microcode ROM chips (MICROMs), 23-004B5 and 23-005B5. Last month I posted here about building a circuit

Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

2016-01-30 Thread Paul Anderson
I know one person who has one. I think I had a few at one time, but it's been years since I've seen them. On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Eric Smith <space...@gmail.com> wrote: > Does anyone have a PDP-11/03 or LSI-11 with the KEV11-C CIS > (Commercial Instruction Set) option? It m

Re: WTB: PDP-11/03 front bezel

2015-12-17 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 09:30:23AM +1000, ste...@malikoff.com wrote: > > I've been after one for a while, too. I was very kindly offered one from a > listmember who would have > taken it off his own machine, but I felt that would have deprived that box. > I'd be divided if I'd get that offer.

Re: WTB: PDP-11/03 front bezel

2015-12-17 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 17/12/2015 16:53, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 09:30:23AM +1000, ste...@malikoff.com wrote: I've been after one for a while, too. I was very kindly offered one from a listmember who would have taken it off his own machine, but I felt that would have deprived that box.

Re: WTB: PDP-11/03 front bezel

2015-12-17 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: > I had always wondered about what bezels are made of. > The one off my 8/e seems too heavy for aluminium. > It must be diecast something or other. Zamac? -ethan

Re: WTB: PDP-11/03 front bezel

2015-12-17 Thread Jacob Ritorto
at 3:48 PM, Pontus Pihlgren <pon...@update.uu.se> wrote: > Hi > > It's a longshot. But recently I aquired two BA11-N. One is just the cage > and power supply. Looks just like this: > > > http://www.ricomputermuseum.org/_/rsrc/1300059803599/Home/equipment/dec-pdp-11-

Re: WTB: PDP-11/03 front bezel

2015-12-17 Thread steven
Original Message Subject: Re: WTB: PDP-11/03 front bezel From:"Rod Smallwood" <rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com> Date:Fri, December 18, 2015 3:17 am To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts&quo

Re: WTB: PDP-11/03 front bezel

2015-12-16 Thread Mike Boyle
s just like this: > >> > >> > >> > http://www.ricomputermuseum.org/_/rsrc/1300059803599/Home/equipment/dec-pdp-11-03/DEC_PDP-11_03-inside.jpg > >> > >> The other came with mounting box but no front panel. I would like to > >> make it complete wit

WTB: PDP-11/03 front bezel

2015-12-15 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
Hi It's a longshot. But recently I aquired two BA11-N. One is just the cage and power supply. Looks just like this: http://www.ricomputermuseum.org/_/rsrc/1300059803599/Home/equipment/dec-pdp-11-03/DEC_PDP-11_03-inside.jpg The other came with mounting box but no front panel. I would like

Re: WTB: PDP-11/03 front bezel

2015-12-15 Thread steven
> Hi > > It's a longshot. But recently I aquired two BA11-N. One is just the cage > and power supply. Looks just like this: > > http://www.ricomputermuseum.org/_/rsrc/1300059803599/Home/equipment/dec-pdp-11-03/DEC_PDP-11_03-inside.jpg > > The other came with mounting b

Re: WTB: PDP-11/03 front bezel

2015-12-15 Thread Paul Anderson
e this: > > > http://www.ricomputermuseum.org/_/rsrc/1300059803599/Home/equipment/dec-pdp-11-03/DEC_PDP-11_03-inside.jpg > > The other came with mounting box but no front panel. I would like to > make it complete with the white front bezel seen here: > > http://hampage.hu/pdp11/kepek/1

Re: WTB: PDP-11/03 front bezel

2015-12-15 Thread Paul Anderson
gt; > wrote: > >> Hi >> >> It's a longshot. But recently I aquired two BA11-N. One is just the cage >> and power supply. Looks just like this: >> >> >> http://www.ricomputermuseum.org/_/rsrc/1300059803599/Home/equipment/dec-pdp-11-03/DEC_PDP-11_03-ins

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-10 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Nov 10, 2015, at 05:56, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > (Actually, although there are only 10 pins, it looks like the connector > housings will hold 14-pin shells, so it you want to not have to carefully > align the cable before plugging it in, go for 14's. Haven't tried

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-10 Thread Christian Corti
On Mon, 9 Nov 2015, Johnny Billquist wrote: Normally, you'd call them Tx, Rx and GND, but anyway... No, you do not need to loop back any signals. DEC didn't like to abuse modem control for flow control. What about the connections between the TTL signals and the line drivers/receivers? There

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-10 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Jim Stephensn > thanks for the help. Eh, always happy to help anyone with PDP-11 stuff. > the buddy mentioned above did a lot of dec maintenance and put these > cables in a pile as he found them.. They're probably worth a good bit now, given how scarce they are! ;-)

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-10 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-11-10 11:55, Christian Corti wrote: On Mon, 9 Nov 2015, Johnny Billquist wrote: Normally, you'd call them Tx, Rx and GND, but anyway... No, you do not need to loop back any signals. DEC didn't like to abuse modem control for flow control. What about the connections between the TTL

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-09 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Henk Gooijen > As far as my limited PDP-11 knowledge goes, none of them used > handshake. I'm pretty sure this is true of all the ones that had a hardwired serial console - it's definitely true of the 11/23 and J11 chip ones (/73, etc), and probably the 11/03's too (although

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-09 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-11-09 21:13, jwsmobile wrote: On 11/9/2015 4:09 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Jim Stephensn > I'm looking for a cable or cable pinout to get the console of this > 11/03 going. > ... > It has a M7940-YA DLV11 controller. Hmm. I can't find anything online

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-09 Thread jwsmobile
On 11/9/2015 4:09 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Jim Stephensn > I'm looking for a cable or cable pinout to get the console of this > 11/03 going. > ... > It has a M7940-YA DLV11 controller. Hmm. I can't find anything online about the -YA variant of the DLV11; the

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-09 Thread Henk Gooijen
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: jwsmobile Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 9:13 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: PDP 11/03 I am mainly asking if I want to hook up a terminal, can I get it going with TD, RD and GND (or 2 3 7 on a DB25), or do I need

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-09 Thread jwsmobile
On 11/9/2015 12:22 PM, Henk Gooijen wrote: -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: jwsmobile Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 9:13 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: PDP 11/03 I am mainly asking if I want to hook up a terminal, can I get it going with TD, RD

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-09 Thread Mark J. Blair
Just in case it helps, a while back I made a little board to adapt DLV11 plugs to 8p8c modular jacks, since I'm rediscovering the utility of adapting everything I own to common serial pinouts. It's not packaged up for public consumption very well yet (including a link in the documentation to a

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-09 Thread jwsmobile
On 11/9/2015 7:31 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Jim Stephensn > The 9400-YE has the cables that formerly went to the 11-780. I'm not > sure what it does. ... I'm not sure if the M9400 needs to be pulled or > not to run the system. This one I actually can answer, since

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-09 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Jim Stephensn > The 9400-YE has the cables that formerly went to the 11-780. I'm not > sure what it does. ... I'm not sure if the M9400 needs to be pulled or > not to run the system. This one I actually can answer, since I've been looking for /780 documentation: found

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-09 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Jim Stephensn >> I can supply both null-modem and non-null-modem cable diagrams (for >> DB25 connectors, already worked out; I have made DB9 serial cables, >> but not for direct connection to a DLV11, but could generate those >> too). > I'd love that OK, here are

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-09 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-11-10 00:05, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Johnny Billquist > I doubt the -YA makes any significant difference here. > ... > Note that a -YA normally means it's just a board with a newer revision. > It do not normally means any change in functionality, except

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-09 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-11-09 23:05, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Henk Gooijen > As far as my limited PDP-11 knowledge goes, none of them used > handshake. I'm pretty sure this is true of all the ones that had a hardwired serial console - it's definitely true of the 11/23 and J11 chip ones (/73,

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-09 Thread jwsmobile
On 11/9/2015 1:48 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Jim Stephensn >> "extra wires to bring out clock & .. 110/300 speed change" > I am mainly asking if I want to hook up a terminal, can I get it going > with TD, RD and GND (or 2 3 7 on a DB25), or do I need to loop back any

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-09 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Johnny Billquist > I doubt the -YA makes any significant difference here. > ... > Note that a -YA normally means it's just a board with a newer revision. > It do not normally means any change in functionality, except perhaps > some improvement. But in general

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-09 Thread jwsmobile
On 11/9/2015 4:42 PM, jwsmobile wrote: On 11/9/2015 1:48 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Jim Stephensn >> "extra wires to bring out clock & .. 110/300 speed change" > I am mainly asking if I want to hook up a terminal, can I get it going > with TD, RD and GND (or 2 3

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-10-05 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Jim S > I suspect I also need an additional card at minimum for my escapade, > and I'm not sure if one card will do it. > I've got pretty much one of every 2 size processor and the 11/03 4 up > processor card. I also have several serial cards, and some memory. Then

PDP 11/03

2015-10-04 Thread jwsmobile
I've been gathering bits and pieces from recent Ebay purchases and would like to see if anyone has a spare 11/03 or 11/23 qbus type box. I've got quite a few cards, and even a backplane block, but the prices on ebay are crazy, and I'd like to check here before doing anything rash. I suspect

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-10-04 Thread Paul Anderson
I have some M7940 and other DLVs, and a few boxes. Let me know what all you need. On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 12:47 AM, jwsmobile wrote: > I've been gathering bits and pieces from recent Ebay purchases and would > like to see if anyone has a spare 11/03 or 11/23 qbus type box. > >