Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-03 Thread Ben Sinclair
This one isn't so pleasant... I worked at CompUSA fixing computers in the 90's, and one time an employee brought in his personal machine for repair. Fortunately I wasn't the one that opened it up, as when the tech popped the case, cockroaches scurried everywhere! The machine was beyond hope with

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-03 Thread Adrian Stoness
When I was a toddler apparently I used to stuff penny's inside the floppy drives of my dads rainbow 100 the drives survived this I slot and are still I. Working order as far as I know since last time I saw that beast On Sunday, August 2, 2015, Tom Moss tomjm...@googlemail.com wrote: I once

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-03 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Aug 3, 2015, at 14:51 , ben bfranc...@jetnet.ab.ca wrote: Written on the drive, is a lot different than paper floating around inside The bad blocks were written on the drive in the sense that they were written or printed on a paper label stuck to the top of the drive, not stored

Re: Steve Jobs engraved iPads - Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-03 Thread drlegendre .
Where is the inscription? Inside the case? On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Toby Thain t...@telegraphics.com.au wrote: On 2015-08-03 12:49 PM, Steve Algernon wrote: As an employee with some involvement, there was a batch of original iPads that were engraved with Steve Jobs signature. ...

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-03 Thread Fred Cisin
On Aug 3, 2015, at 14:51 , ben bfranc...@jetnet.ab.ca wrote: Written on the drive, is a lot different than paper floating around inside On Mon, 3 Aug 2015, Mark J. Blair wrote: The bad blocks were written on the drive in the sense that they were written or printed on a paper label stuck to the

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-03 Thread ben
On 8/3/2015 3:25 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: On 08/03/2015 11:33 AM, ben wrote: If is that bad, time for a new drive. Perhaps you don't remember but old ST506-style drives had no automatic bad sector remapping, so even new ones had bad sector maps affixed by the manufacturer. Most often these

Re: Steve Jobs engraved iPads - Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-03 Thread Steve Algernon
On Aug 3, 2015, at 6:52 PM, drlegendre . drlegen...@gmail.com wrote: Where is the inscription? Inside the case? On the back. I don't have a handy picture, but someone else posted theirs: http://deirdre.net/steve-jobss-death-and-influence/back-camera-3/

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-03 Thread Sean Caron
When I was in middle school, I once saw another kid stuff a bunch of potato chips in a Disk ][ ... does that count? LOL Best, Sean On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Adrian Stoness tdk.kni...@gmail.com wrote: When I was a toddler apparently I used to stuff penny's inside the floppy drives of

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-03 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 08/03/2015 11:33 AM, ben wrote: If is that bad, time for a new drive. Perhaps you don't remember but old ST506-style drives had no automatic bad sector remapping, so even new ones had bad sector maps affixed by the manufacturer. Most often these were in the form of byte offset from

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-03 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Sun, Aug 02, 2015 at 11:55:10AM -0700, Chuck Guzis wrote: Turning this discussion on its head, I wonder if I'm the only one to stash manuals and setup CDs in the cases of my systems. Has anyone ever picked up an old system and found system documentation inside? Not really inside but I

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-03 Thread ben
On 8/3/2015 12:11 PM, Jules Richardson wrote: On 08/02/2015 01:55 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: Turning this discussion on its head, I wonder if I'm the only one to stash manuals and setup CDs in the cases of my systems. Has anyone ever picked up an old system and found system documentation inside?

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-03 Thread Steve Algernon
As an employee with some involvement, there was a batch of original iPads that were engraved with Steve Jobs signature. Scott Forstall joked I don't want to see these show up on eBay! Anyway, being none too careful, I let my then 3 year old play with it, and she was walking around with rapt

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-03 Thread Jules Richardson
On 08/02/2015 01:55 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: Turning this discussion on its head, I wonder if I'm the only one to stash manuals and setup CDs in the cases of my systems. Has anyone ever picked up an old system and found system documentation inside? I suppose that bad sector maps for ST506/412

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-03 Thread Chris Elmquist
Most Cray systems shipped from Chippewa Falls with several cases of Leinenkugel's beer inside. This was intended for the SEs after they got the system installed and up and running and not for the customer :-) Chris -- Chris Elmquist

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-03 Thread Fred Cisin
I suppose that bad sector maps for ST506/412 hard drives don't count? :-) On Mon, 3 Aug 2015, ben wrote: If is that bad, time for a new drive. In the early days, particularly when actual ST506 and ST412 were common drives, there were VERY VERY few that had no bad tracks. In the days of

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-03 Thread Diane Bruce
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 12:33:33PM -0700, Fred Cisin wrote: I suppose that bad sector maps for ST506/412 hard drives don't count? :-) Once upon a time, it was the job of the OS to take this badblock count and remap blocks itself since the drives themselves weren't smart enough. On Mon, 3

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-02 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Aug 2, 2015, at 19:10, William Donzelli wdonze...@gmail.com wrote: And some 1950s military radio manufacturers, who screen printed schematic diagrams onto cloth and stashed them inside the radios. If you are thinking about that early GRC stuff, that was silk! Oh wow, I thought it was

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-02 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 08/02/2015 07:08 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote: And some 1950s military radio manufacturers, who screen printed schematic diagrams onto cloth and stashed them inside the radios. The schematics were secured to the inside of the radio with a length of cloth ribbon, then folded up tightly and stuffed

RE: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-02 Thread tony duell
And some 1950s military radio manufacturers, who screen printed schematic diagrams onto cloth and stashed them inside the radios. The schematics were secured to the inside of the radio with a length of cloth ribbon, then folded up tightly and stuffed into a metal tube secured to the

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-02 Thread Tom Moss
I once found a whole box worth of crayola crayons in a 1541 disk drive. What amazes me is how nothing was blocked and they hadn't melted. On 2 August 2015 at 05:53, Mark J. Blair n...@nf6x.net wrote: By the way: I still keep the dollar with the computer. Just in case it's a critical

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-02 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Sat, Aug 01, 2015 at 07:05:35PM -0400, Vlad Stamate wrote: What other strange pieces did you find when you opened up classic computers? A dead rodent inside an otherwise nice looking Norsk Data ND-500 A four inch crooked nail inside a LINC-8 It is really a good idea to peak inside a

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-02 Thread Rick Bensene
A faded semi-nude 4x6 photo of a woman on a beach inside an IBM PC-XT that I found in a thrift shop many years ago. How or why it was in there is anyone's guess. -Rick

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-02 Thread Rod Smallwood
One of my first jobs at DEC was on terminal sales. The LA36 printing terminal had the logic and PSU cards mounted in the plinth. The logic card was on the back of the pull down door and the PSU inside. So easy to service it wasn't true. This compartment was quite roomy and inside fresh

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-02 Thread William Donzelli
Turning this discussion on its head, I wonder if I'm the only one to stash manuals and setup CDs in the cases of my systems. Has anyone ever picked up an old system and found system documentation inside? Just wondering if I'm the exception... Just you and IBM. -- Will

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-02 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Aug 2, 2015, at 12:15, William Donzelli wdonze...@gmail.com wrote: Turning this discussion on its head, I wonder if I'm the only one to stash manuals and setup CDs in the cases of my systems. Has anyone ever picked up an old system and found system documentation inside? Just

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-02 Thread William Donzelli
And some 1950s military radio manufacturers, who screen printed schematic diagrams onto cloth and stashed them inside the radios. If you are thinking about that early GRC stuff, that was silk! -- Will

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-01 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Aug 1, 2015, at 21:22 , drlegendre . drlegen...@gmail.com wrote: That's an old joke. Some (newb) asks How do you switch it on, i want to play Spacewar (or whatever), cagey user says You put a dollar in one of these slots... ;-) I guarantee it. That's my number one theory, followed by

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-01 Thread Mark J. Blair
I found a dollar bill inside an Apple Monitor II. It appeared to have been folded into quarters and then pushed through one of the cooling slots on top of the monitor. The monitor and matching IIe computer look like they came from a school based on the property numbers engraved onto them. I've

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-01 Thread Chris Elmquist
On Saturday (08/01/2015 at 07:05PM -0400), Vlad Stamate wrote: I was pleasantly impressed that the drive head has not been damaged bumping in the leather piece all the time. I am not sure how that got there, I assume a child pushed it in by mistake? Peter!

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-01 Thread Tothwolf
On Sat, 1 Aug 2015, drlegendre . wrote: On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Vlad Stamate vlad.stam...@gmail.com wrote: I recently got a very nice HP 9816 with a 9121 drive unit from Earl Baugh (thanks Earl!). The computer worked fine but the primary drive of the 9121 refused to read the disk and

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-01 Thread drlegendre .
What is that item? Looks like a piece of laced (p)leather-craft from a children's summer camp project.. On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Vlad Stamate vlad.stam...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I recently got a very nice HP 9816 with a 9121 drive unit from Earl Baugh (thanks Earl!). The computer

Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-01 Thread Vlad Stamate
Hi, I recently got a very nice HP 9816 with a 9121 drive unit from Earl Baugh (thanks Earl!). The computer worked fine but the primary drive of the 9121 refused to read the disk and made a continuous beating noise. After I cleaned it on the outside I opened it to see what is wrong with it. And I

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-01 Thread Fred Cisin
On Sat, 1 Aug 2015, drlegendre . wrote: What is that item? Looks like a piece of laced (p)leather-craft from a children's summer camp project.. an improvised floppy drive shipping head protector?

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-01 Thread Fred Cisin
What other strange pieces did you find when you opened up classic computers? A TRS80 model 1 where some keys had stopped working due to an accumulation of marijuana seeds

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-01 Thread Tothwolf
On Sat, 1 Aug 2015, Vlad Stamate wrote: Hi, I recently got a very nice HP 9816 with a 9121 drive unit from Earl Baugh (thanks Earl!). The computer worked fine but the primary drive of the 9121 refused to read the disk and made a continuous beating noise. After I cleaned it on the outside I

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-01 Thread Eric Christopherson
On Sat, Aug 01, 2015, Vlad Stamate wrote: Hi, I recently got a very nice HP 9816 with a 9121 drive unit from Earl Baugh (thanks Earl!). The computer worked fine but the primary drive of the 9121 refused to read the disk and made a continuous beating noise. After I cleaned it on the outside

Re: Unusual stuff inside computers

2015-08-01 Thread Eric Smith
On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 5:37 PM, Fred Cisin ci...@xenosoft.com wrote: What other strange pieces did you find when you opened up classic computers? A TRS80 model 1 where some keys had stopped working due to an accumulation of marijuana seeds Someone was using it wrong. No seeds or stems!