Re: Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition

[Charles Dickman via cctalk]

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 7:53 PM, Ian S. King via cctalk
 wrote:
> "The scrapper wants $800"?  I thought the point of going to scrap was that
> the scrapper makes money on the metals, and pays you for that privilege.
> Have the tables really turned so dramatically?-- Ian

I got $186 a couple of years ago for an S/34 and a twinax line printer
from a scrap metals dealer.

RE: Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition

[Dave Wade via cctalk]

> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Benjamin
> Huntsman via cctalk
> Sent: 26 July 2017 06:27
> To: Evan Koblentz <cct...@snarc.net>; General Discussion: On-Topic and
Off-
> Topic Posts <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition
> 
> >That one's been around for several years. Nobody here on the east coast
> 
> >wants it. A few of us checked it out in person. Pile of junk.
> 
> At some point, doesn't the rarity of it outweigh the rough condition?  Or
are
> 34's just not that rare? (or collectable?)
> 

I suspect it's a disconnect between owner's visions of them being "IBM
Mainframes" and demanding substantial prices and collectors seeing them as a
backwater of IBM computing and un-interesting and wanting them for free...
The hardware and software is "closed" so there is very little in the way of
software available, the instruction set is I think un-disclosed so no
emulators exist.
I don't think it did TCP/IP only SNA so its hard to connect to other things.
It was largely sold to small commercial businesses and mainly ran RPG so
places where there were no IT skills so not many IT/Computer folks are
interested...
... a friend who ran a tyre and exhaust business had one for Payroll and
stock Control...
When I worked for Marks & Spencer Financial Services we had a couple as RJE
stations onto HASP and MVS and we also used them as a PC server with XT and
AT machines over twinax.

So I think it's the sort of box you stick in a Museum on display. 

Dave

Re: Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition

[Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk]

>That one's been around for several years. Nobody here on the east coast

>wants it. A few of us checked it out in person. Pile of junk.

At some point, doesn't the rarity of it outweigh the rough condition?  Or are 
34's just not that rare? (or collectable?)

Re: Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition

[Evan Koblentz via cctalk]

Im guessing its pottstown, PA 
https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/sys/d/ibm-system/6157580080.html but thats 
a guess. Only aware of it from an incorrext location tag making it show up near 
Austin also.
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That one's been around for several years. Nobody here on the east coast 
wants it. A few of us checked it out in person. Pile of junk.

Re: Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition

[Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk]

Not sure if that's it or not.  I found the guy through eBay, not CraigsList.





From: cctalk <cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org> on behalf of Sam O'nella via 
cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:08 PM
To: Guy Sotomayor Jr; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition

Im guessing its pottstown, PA 
https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/sys/d/ibm-system/6157580080.html but thats 
a guess. Only aware of it from an incorrext location tag making it show up near 
Austin also.
[https://images.craigslist.org/00606_9E0qJPXjP9n_600x450.jpg]<https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/sys/d/ibm-system/6157580080.html>

IBM system 
34<https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/sys/d/ibm-system/6157580080.html>
philadelphia.craigslist.org
Been in storage for probably 30 years, condition unknown, was being used when i 
got it, has system 8 floppies with , looks like auto load 8 floppie and punched 
card.---cabinet gained some rust over...



null

Re: Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition

[Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk]

Sorry about that.  The thing is in Iowa.

That's all I know, other than who's scrapping it 

Thanks!


-Ben



From: Guy Sotomayor Jr <g...@shiresoft.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 1:39 PM
To: Benjamin Huntsman; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition

Usual question.  Where is it?

TTFN - Guy

> On Jul 25, 2017, at 1:36 PM, Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk 
> <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> Anyone on here want a whole System/34?
>
>
> Not mine, but I have contact details.  The scrapper wants $800 for it local 
> pick up.
>
>
> Let me know today, please.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> -Ben

Re: Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition

[jim stephens via cctalk]

Even if you  do have to take it to a scrap yard (skip this one, he's a 
jerk), you can take a System 34 sized system for way less than that.


I recently had a series of cleanouts @ retail prices, and if you pay 
more than $150 to do it you are getting ripped.  That would be to rent a 
U-Haul truck and their retail helpers.  I now have two guys I hired thru 
Uhaul and in a single day  I can move a 400sf storage unit.


Truck would be $29 for the day, (flat rate), and $100 / hr guys max 
price.  Drive to dump / scrapper, done.


I hope you can let the thing mellow for a while and someone can salvage 
the system.  Wrong side of the continent for me at that size though.

thanks
jim

On 7/25/2017 4:53 PM, Ian S. King via cctalk wrote:

"The scrapper wants $800"?

Re: Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Im guessing its pottstown, PA 
https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/sys/d/ibm-system/6157580080.html but thats 
a guess. Only aware of it from an incorrext location tag making it show up near 
Austin also.
null

Re: Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition

[Al Kossow via cctalk]

On 7/25/17 4:53 PM, Ian S. King via cctalk wrote:
> I thought the point of going to scrap was that
> the scrapper makes money on the metals, and pays you for that privilege.

We have trouble getting ecyclers to even come here to pick stuff up.

Most of the time I have to drive stuff to Weird Stuff to get rid of it
then they turn their noses up at it when they see they aren't going to
be able to flip it in the store easily.

Re: Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition

[Ian S. King via cctalk]

"The scrapper wants $800"?  I thought the point of going to scrap was that
the scrapper makes money on the metals, and pays you for that privilege.
Have the tables really turned so dramatically?-- Ian

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 4:45 PM, Robert via cctalk 
wrote:

> As Guy says, location will be the key to who, if anybody, can get it.
> I'd certainly be interested if it was withing a reasonable distance of
> me, though I'm not sure exactly where I'd put it...
> --
> Robert
>
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk
>  wrote:
> > Usual question.  Where is it?
> >
> > TTFN - Guy
> >
> >> On Jul 25, 2017, at 1:36 PM, Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Anyone on here want a whole System/34?
> >>
> >>
> >> Not mine, but I have contact details.  The scrapper wants $800 for it
> local pick up.
> >>
> >>
> >> Let me know today, please.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >>
> >> -Ben
> >
>



-- 
Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS, Ph.D. Candidate
The Information School 
Dissertation: "Why the Conversation Mattered: Constructing a Sociotechnical
Narrative Through a Design Lens

Archivist, Voices From the Rwanda Tribunal 
Value Sensitive Design Research Lab 

University of Washington

There is an old Vulcan saying: "Only Nixon could go to China."

Re: Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition

[Robert via cctalk]

As Guy says, location will be the key to who, if anybody, can get it.
I'd certainly be interested if it was withing a reasonable distance of
me, though I'm not sure exactly where I'd put it...
-- 
Robert

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk
 wrote:
> Usual question.  Where is it?
>
> TTFN - Guy
>
>> On Jul 25, 2017, at 1:36 PM, Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Anyone on here want a whole System/34?
>>
>>
>> Not mine, but I have contact details.  The scrapper wants $800 for it local 
>> pick up.
>>
>>
>> Let me know today, please.
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> -Ben
>

Re: Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition

[Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk]

Usual question.  Where is it?

TTFN - Guy

> On Jul 25, 2017, at 1:36 PM, Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Anyone on here want a whole System/34?
> 
> 
> Not mine, but I have contact details.  The scrapper wants $800 for it local 
> pick up.
> 
> 
> Let me know today, please.
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> -Ben

Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition

[Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk]

Anyone on here want a whole System/34?


Not mine, but I have contact details.  The scrapper wants $800 for it local 
pick up.


Let me know today, please.


Thanks.


-Ben