Re: TI memory board

2016-10-07 Thread Mattis Lind
2016-10-07 19:31 GMT+02:00 Al Kossow : > oops, they aren't Intel > They are MIL. Micro Systems International: https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/microsystems_international If someone are into repairing HP98x0A machines this would be a life time supply of spare chips provided they

Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-07 Thread Al Kossow
ouch! this is about 2x what I thought they would go for On 10/1/16 7:19 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > http://www.ebay.com/itm/291894250804 >

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-07 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 10/07/2016 03:12 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > ouch! > > this is about 2x what I thought they would go for > > On 10/1/16 7:19 AM, Al Kossow wrote: >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/291894250804 That simply defies logic. I *really* don't get this collecting business. --Chuck

Re: TI memory board

2016-10-07 Thread Al Kossow
oops, they aren't Intel On 10/7/16 10:30 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > wonder why all the interest. > gold bugs, or do people realize there are i1103s on there? > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/262652558004 >

TI memory board

2016-10-07 Thread Al Kossow
wonder why all the interest. gold bugs, or do people realize there are i1103s on there? http://www.ebay.com/itm/262652558004

RE: Data on a Platter!

2016-10-07 Thread Gary L. Messick
> The 'E' in "EG" is for Harold Eugene "Doc" Edgerton, who is famous > for his pioneering work in strobe photography. He was quite a legend > as a professor at MIT. I went to school with his grandson Eric, and his son Bob was my High School Physics teacher. Needless to say, we did *A LOT* of

Re: Data on a Platter!

2016-10-07 Thread Al Kossow
On 10/6/16 11:14 PM, Jason T wrote: > It was > either Kilobaud of Interface Age that had them. Interface Age I have a couple that I just ran across again that I need to digitize There was just a discussion about these on the MAME developers list.

Re: Data on a Platter!

2016-10-07 Thread Al Kossow
On 10/6/16 11:14 PM, Jason T wrote: > I was also going to ask if anyone knew of any other examples of > phonograph records used to store data. Inner City Unit's "Spectrum Program" is mentioned on the Wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX_Spectrum_software I actually played it once

Re: Data on a Platter!

2016-10-07 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/07/2016 01:01 AM, Glen Slick wrote: On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 10:32 PM, Jason T wrote: Here's a scan - and special bonus audio tracks - of a brochure and 7" record I found on ebay recently: http://chiclassiccomp.org/docs/index.php?dir=%2Fcomputing/EG%26G "Data on a

Re: TI memory board

2016-10-07 Thread Al Kossow
Guess I should look memory boards are inside my TI 960 and 980 The 990 used dual-wide verisons of that board form factor and used 4K and higher DRAMs > They are MIL. Micro Systems International: > https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/microsystems_international > > If someone are into repairing HP98x0A

Re: TI memory board

2016-10-07 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > Guess I should look memory boards are inside my TI 960 and 980 > The 990 used dual-wide verisons of that board form factor and used 4K and > higher DRAMs I have some of those TI memory boards loose (and one machine, a 960A,

'Revolutionary Force' Bombs IBM Offices

2016-10-07 Thread william degnan
'Revolutionary Force' Bombs IBM Offices Computer Word, March 18, 1970.. http://vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=654 Does anyone have a stash of these old Computer World's? I have found very few online. I assume there is a complete set somewhere...? Bill

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-07 Thread Fred Cisin
On Fri, 7 Oct 2016, Mike Stein wrote: Remember that there are folks out there with millions or more (often made in a computer-related field), for whom $20,000 is the same as $20.00 for most of us... Decades ago, I didn't buy some at $30 each, waiting for the price to come down.

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-07 Thread Kevin Griffin
This guy was spot on about if his Lisa1 had Twiggys http://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/sys/5797104896.html Kevin On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 5:18 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: > On Fri, 7 Oct 2016, couryho...@aol.com wrote: > >> but if you were a hardcore mustang collector you

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-07 Thread Kevin Griffin
Not sure...I just was saying he wasn't that far off what people will pay based on the eBay action of he twiggys at 20.6k. Drives that are unverified at that. On Friday, October 7, 2016, j...@cimmeri.com wrote: > > > On 10/7/2016 7:38 PM, Kevin Griffin wrote: > >> This guy was

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-07 Thread j...@cimmeri.com
On 10/7/2016 7:38 PM, Kevin Griffin wrote: This guy was spot on about if his Lisa1 had Twiggys http://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/sys/5797104896.html Kevin How does this SF guy so confidently know --> $30k plus?Is there a place where these Lisas regularly sell for that? - J.

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-07 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/07/2016 05:12 PM, Al Kossow wrote: ouch! this is about 2x what I thought they would go for On 10/1/16 7:19 AM, Al Kossow wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/291894250804 Groan! I've been collecting the WRONG stuff! Jon

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-07 Thread Fred Cisin
On Fri, 7 Oct 2016, couryho...@aol.com wrote: Leicas dumpstered? OMG !? oh the humanity!!! Indeed! M2 AND M3, with marvelous lenses. CHead had promised me the Summicrons, which I have always dreamed of having. I found 2 cases that the dumpsterers missed, containing a mint

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-07 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 10/07/2016 04:41 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > > > On 10/7/16 4:32 PM, j...@cimmeri.com wrote: >> >> >> how astonishingly retarded that they sold for that much. > > nah.. maybe Alan in Soquel will list the ones he's been hoarding. In non-computer-related sales that initially commanded an

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-07 Thread Noel Chiappa
> On 10/7/2016 5:21 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > That simply defies logic. I *really* don't get this collecting business. It's Apple-related. Some Apple devotees seem to have an, ah, excessive attachment to things Apple. (Q.v. $1M Apple I's.) I'm suprised that some of them didn't commit

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-07 Thread Fred Cisin
On Fri, 7 Oct 2016, Noel Chiappa wrote: Did you tell the dumpsterers that they'd thrown out stuff worth thousands of dollars? (I would have made to sure to let them know that, with great spite.) And if so, what did they say? "So? Boss said throw out everything in the closets. We don't open

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-07 Thread Mike Stein
Remember that there are folks out there with millions or more (often made in a computer-related field), for whom $20,000 is the same as $20.00 for most of us... m - Original Message - From: "Al Kossow" To: Sent: Friday, October 07, 2016

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-07 Thread j...@cimmeri.com
On 10/7/2016 5:21 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: On 10/07/2016 03:12 PM, Al Kossow wrote: ouch! this is about 2x what I thought they would go for On 10/1/16 7:19 AM, Al Kossow wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/291894250804 That simply defies logic. I *really* don't get this collecting business.

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-07 Thread Fred Cisin
On Fri, 7 Oct 2016, Al Kossow wrote: sigh.. getting like the high-end car collecting market, where people pay $1K for an NOS Ford part for their Cobra you could get at a dealer for $10 in the 60's. But, how do I get to the 60's? John Titor never answered my open offer. I accept that their

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-07 Thread COURYHOUSE
but if you were a hardcore mustang collector you would not sleep until you had every part that went with it... Ed# In a message dated 10/7/2016 5:07:12 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, ci...@xenosoft.com writes: If I had a 65 Mustang, missing the ashtray, the only reason that I

Re: 'Revolutionary Force' Bombs IBM Offices

2016-10-07 Thread Jason T
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 6:28 PM, william degnan wrote: > Does anyone have a stash of these old Computer World's? I have found very > few online. I assume there is a complete set somewhere...? There are many online via Google Books, though not the issue you have there:

Re: Data on a Platter!

2016-10-07 Thread steven
Original Message Subject: Data on a Platter! From:"Jason T" Date:Fri, October 7, 2016 3:32 pm To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"

Re: Data on a Platter!

2016-10-07 Thread Jason T
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 1:01 AM, Glen Slick wrote: > The 'E' in "EG" is for Harold Eugene "Doc" Edgerton, who is famous > for his pioneering work in strobe photography. He was quite a legend > as a professor at MIT. Yeah, another list member sent me their Wiki link, which I

Re: Data on a Platter!

2016-10-07 Thread Jason T
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 1:03 AM, wrote: > came out in that year (it's on Youtube). It also mentions 'during later 1970 > and 1971' so I'd say 1969/70 as a guess. I wonder if any of those devices Oh yes, they did say that. I think that may give us a date, then. I was also

Re: Data on a Platter!

2016-10-07 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 01:14:06AM -0500, Jason T wrote: > > I was also going to ask if anyone knew of any other examples of > phonograph records used to store data. The only one I'm aware of is > the flexi-discs that came in early-80s computer magazines. Yes, there is a swedish band

Re: Data on a Platter!

2016-10-07 Thread Glen Slick
On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 10:32 PM, Jason T wrote: > Here's a scan - and special bonus audio tracks - of a brochure and 7" > record I found on ebay recently: > > http://chiclassiccomp.org/docs/index.php?dir=%2Fcomputing/EG%26G > > "Data on a Platter" from a company called EG

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-07 Thread Al Kossow
I don't think a flipper would have paid that much. Complete machines have sold for just over 15K within recent memory. A deep pockets collector must have a machine with all the right serial numbers that was just missing drives. sigh.. getting like the high-end car collecting market, where people

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-07 Thread Al Kossow
On 10/7/16 4:32 PM, j...@cimmeri.com wrote: > > > how astonishingly retarded that they sold for that much. nah.. maybe Alan in Soquel will list the ones he's been hoarding.

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-07 Thread Jason T
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 6:58 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > In particular, I have to wonder how much of this stuff is buried in > overseas e-waste piles. I have one single Twiggy diskette, Apple branded. Maybe I can get a dinner or two out of it...

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-07 Thread Fred Cisin
On Fri, 7 Oct 2016, couryho...@aol.com wrote: but if you were a hardcore mustang collector you would not sleep until you had every part that went with it... Having been around when they came out, and still around when I did not buy non-running rolling rebuildables for a few hundred

Re: 'Revolutionary Force' Bombs IBM Offices

2016-10-07 Thread william degnan
On Oct 7, 2016 8:03 PM, "Jason T" wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 6:28 PM, william degnan wrote: > > Does anyone have a stash of these old Computer World's? I have found very > > few online. I assume there is a complete set somewhere...? > > There

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-07 Thread COURYHOUSE
Leicas dumpstered? OMG !? oh the humanity!!! In a message dated 10/7/2016 5:18:44 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, ci...@xenosoft.com writes: On Fri, 7 Oct 2016, couryho...@aol.com wrote: > but if you were a hardcore mustang collector you would not sleep > until you

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-07 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 10/07/2016 05:17 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > It's Apple-related. Some Apple devotees seem to have an, ah, > excessive attachment to things Apple. (Q.v. $1M Apple I's.) I'm > suprised that some of them didn't commit suttee when Steve died. Well, as we all know, Apple invented the personal

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-07 Thread Brad H
I'd like to see a dig like they did for the Atari ET carts where the Lisas are buried.  Although, I think they were all Lisa 2s? Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: Chuck Guzis Date: 2016-10-07 4:58 PM (GMT-08:00) To: "General

Re: ka... ching!

2016-10-07 Thread j...@cimmeri.com
On 10/1/2016 5:52 PM, Santo Nucifora wrote: For those who are bidding on the twiggy drives, you can have a Lisa 1 faceplate here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/62204758 and a matching Lisa 1 mouse here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/172360487433 These are a little on the expensive side too :)

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-07 Thread Fred Cisin
On Fri, 7 Oct 2016, Chuck Guzis wrote: Well, as we all know, Apple invented the personal computer--and probably the microprocessor... I hear that there is "prior art" for transistors!

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-07 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Fred Cisin > I found 2 cases that the dumpsterers missed ... I did a quick sale of > the Tele-Elmarit for $1000 Did you tell the dumpsterers that they'd thrown out stuff worth thousands of dollars? (I would have made to sure to let them know that, with great spite.) And if

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-07 Thread COURYHOUSE
90 mm f 2 summacron was a great lens! wish I had one back for our M2. In a message dated 10/7/2016 7:15:36 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, ci...@xenosoft.com writes: On Fri, 7 Oct 2016, couryho...@aol.com wrote: > Leicas dumpstered?OMG !? > oh the humanity!!! Indeed! M2 AND

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-07 Thread Brent Hilpert
On 2016-Oct-07, at 5:17 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: >> On 10/7/2016 5:21 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > >> That simply defies logic. I *really* don't get this collecting business. > > It's Apple-related. Some Apple devotees seem to have an, ah, excessive > attachment to things Apple. (Q.v. $1M Apple

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-07 Thread Brad H
Original message From: Brent Hilpert Date: 2016-10-07 8:46 PM (GMT-08:00) To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Subject: Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!] On 2016-Oct-07, at 5:17 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: >>

Data on a Platter!

2016-10-07 Thread Jason T
Here's a scan - and special bonus audio tracks - of a brochure and 7" record I found on ebay recently: http://chiclassiccomp.org/docs/index.php?dir=%2Fcomputing/EG%26G "Data on a Platter" from a company called EG (anyone heard of them?) describes their vinyl (as in analog audio record) data

Re: Any updates on the 3b2 emulator?

2016-10-07 Thread Seth Morabito
* On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 12:16:30AM -0500, Jerry Kemp wrote: > Hello Seth, > > Its been a few months, and I am wondering if the 3b2 emulator project is > still moving forward, or put on the back burner for now? > > Thanks for any updates, > > Jerry Hi Jerry and the list,

Re: Micro Fiche Library.

2016-10-07 Thread Jörg Hoppe
Hi, you surely found it on the web already, but if not: Two years ago I build an own scanning rig and scanned 5+ pages of XXDP listings. The problem of enhancing very bad fiches is also addressed with an expensive "Filter Chain". http://retrocmp.com/projects/scanning-micro-fiches Joerg

Re: Micro Fiche Library.

2016-10-07 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 05/10/2016 09:16, Jörg Hoppe wrote: Hi, you surely found it on the web already, but if not: Two years ago I build an own scanning rig and scanned 5+ pages of XXDP listings. The problem of enhancing very bad fiches is also addressed with an expensive "Filter Chain".