Even a full list of what CDs Jason has there w/o indexing would be helpful.
Trying to figure out what is there is a nightmare.
For a while, I had about 400gb of cd images on bitsavers until we ran out of
disk space.
I probably have a few hundred more gb I've read since then. I've slowly been
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, Al Kossow wrote:
On 10/29/18 12:54 PM, geneb wrote:
Here's the Walnut Creek collection: https://archive.org/details/walnutcreekcdrom
It sure would be nice if you could get a comma separated list of metadata
instead of
a bunch of pretty pictures
THAT is where IA is a
What's Microsoft's policy on old MSDN CDs? I've got a ton of them
starting somewhere around 93-94 and extended through the XP years.
Do I respect MS's IP and send them to the crusher?
--Chuck
You realize that you can click a button and get a text list of those "pretty
pictures", right? Click the "Show Details" checkbox and you'll get a block
of text that describes each one.
g.
I would assume he means text listings / directory listing type view.
- Ethan
On 10/29/18 2:09 PM, Electronics Plus wrote:
> Not required, I think. There are activation codes for SOME of the
> software on the CDs, but not most of them. Many will be trial
> versions or limited in some fashion. All of this old software is no
> longer under MS support, and much of it can be
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
That would surprise me a bit; I'm not aware of any OS software being
"trial veriosn" type. I think the shrink-wrap agreement calls for being
able to use it on up to 10 systems. The copies of, XP, for example are
fully licensed working
It was thus said that the Great Tomasz Rola via cctalk once stated:
> Ok guys, just to make things clearer, here are two pages from wiki:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object-oriented_operating_system
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object-oriented_programming
>
> What I was thinking back
Thursday I visited Computer Fusion near Dallas, TX. They have 2 huge
warehouses that they have been filling up since the 1990s. I saw a lot of
old Sun gear, lots of 90s era PCs, etc. Not all of it is listed on his site,
but if there is something specific you want, go to http://www.cfusion.com
and
On 10/29/18 12:54 PM, geneb wrote:
> Here's the Walnut Creek collection:
> https://archive.org/details/walnutcreekcdrom
It sure would be nice if you could get a comma separated list of metadata
instead of
a bunch of pretty pictures
THAT is where IA is a colossal FAIL
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 12:13 PM alan--- via cctalk
wrote:
> I know i960 is a very different beast, but was there ever any high level
> OSs that ran on it?
It was originally the BiiN processor, and ran the Osiris operating system.
However, few if any were sold, and it disappeared without a
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
On 10/29/18 6:11 AM, geneb via cctalk wrote:
This is going to be a long term project that will end when I've either
exhausted the available CD-ROMs on the IA, or I
die, whichever comes first. ;)
Even a full list of what CDs Jason has there
Gee, I didn't know you collected old CD archives.
I've got some WC CDs here:
"Internet USENET source code." CDs 1,2,3
C/C++ Users Group Library August 1997
"Toolkit for Linus"-2 CD set.
---
Developer Source Vols. 4-10 (1995-1998); archives of source code
published in magazine
Not required, I think.
There are activation codes for SOME of the software on the CDs, but not most of
them. Many will be trial versions or limited in some fashion. All of this old
software is no longer under MS support, and much of it can be downloaded from
MS or other sites for free. So my
It's likely we have it in the uncatalogued stuff we obtained when the 1000
division shut down
but it's difficult to search through the paper right now.
On 10/29/18 12:43 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote:
> Does anyone have copies of these two manuals?
>
> 24612-90010 Introduction to the A-Series
On 10/29/18 6:11 AM, geneb via cctalk wrote:
> This is going to be a long term project that will end when I've either
> exhausted the available CD-ROMs on the IA, or I
> die, whichever comes first. ;)
Even a full list of what CDs Jason has there w/o indexing would be helpful.
Trying to
Does anyone have copies of these two manuals?
24612-90010 Introduction to the A-Series Computer Diagnostics Manual
24612-90013 A-Series Diagnostic Operating and Troubleshooting Manual
They are referenced in this manual:
RTE-A Primary System Software Installation Manual
92077-90038, April 1995,
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
Gee, I didn't know you collected old CD archives.
I've got some WC CDs here:
"Internet USENET source code." CDs 1,2,3
C/C++ Users Group Library August 1997
"Toolkit for Linus"-2 CD set.
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Developer Source Vols. 4-10
http://www.appx.com/appx-server-413-ibm-aix
http://bio.gsi.de/DOCS/AIX/docs.html
http://yips.idevcloud.com/wiki/index.php/PASE/OpenSourceBinariesArchive
Maybe these will be useful to someone?
Cindy Croxton
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On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 01:46:50PM -0700, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> On 10/29/18 12:54 PM, geneb wrote:
>> Here's the Walnut Creek collection:
>> https://archive.org/details/walnutcreekcdrom
> It sure would be nice if you could get a comma separated list of metadata
> instead of a bunch of
On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 at 14:56, emanuel stiebler via cctalk
wrote:
> the i860 found at least a little niche on graphics boards, so somehow
> not a complete failure ;-)
And of course it was the N-Ten CPU on the Microsoft Dazzle
motherboard. The main product developed on that mobo was codenamed
> On Oct 29, 2018, at 5:09 PM, Electronics Plus via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> Not required, I think.
> There are activation codes for SOME of the software on the CDs, but not most
> of them. Many will be trial versions or limited in some fashion.
I still have a few MSDN disks containing
> On Oct 29, 2018, at 5:12 PM, Eric Smith via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> The i960 was how Intel repositioned it to try to salvage as much as
> possible. Most i960 variants either don't have the tag bit hardware and
> object-oriented "microcode" that was used for BiiN; it is only officially
>
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
What's Microsoft's policy on old MSDN CDs? I've got a ton of them
starting somewhere around 93-94 and extended through the XP years.
Do I respect MS's IP and send them to the crusher?
There's a ton of them on the IA already. I would /love/
On Oct 29, 2018, at 4:29 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> I guess someone has been looking at the site
> Their inventory search broke.
I managed to do a search for Apollo stuff and their prices are outrageous.
Guess we know how they accumulated multiple warehouses full of gear.
-- Chris
On 10/29/18 4:24 PM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote:
> On 10/29/2018 2:53 PM, Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote:
>> Thursday I visited Computer Fusion near Dallas, TX. They have 2 huge
>> warehouses that they have been filling up since the 1990s. I saw a lot of
>> old Sun gear, lots of 90s
On 10/29/2018 2:53 PM, Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote:
Thursday I visited Computer Fusion near Dallas, TX. They have 2 huge
warehouses that they have been filling up since the 1990s. I saw a lot of
old Sun gear, lots of 90s era PCs, etc. Not all of it is listed on his site,
but if there is
On 10/29/18 4:29 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> I guess someone has been looking at the site
> Their inventory search broke.
>
nevermind, it spits out a
500 Error. Internal Server Error.
if nothing matches
AIX was ported in very cut down manner and used on the f960 and h960
routing cards used on the early T3 based NSFnet. F960 was FDDI and H960 was
HSSI. Come think of it, I think the v.25 and ether net cards also used
i960, just a smaller version.
--
Will
On Oct 29, 2018 12:13 PM, "alan--- via
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 at 05:33, Tomasz Rola wrote:
I found this post incoherent and very hard to follow. I will therefore
limit myself to commenting to the responses direct to me.
OK, apart from:
> Ok guys, just to make things clearer, here are two pages from wiki:
>
>
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 at 18:59, Diane Bruce via cctalk
wrote:
>
> I am tossing a pile of old PC keyboards but found one SUN type C keyboard.
> It's missing a few keys :-( but might interest anyone needing spare parts.
Get 'em on eBay. Don't underestimate the zeal of keyboard collectors.
--
I’ve come into an HP-Apollo 9000/425t which uses memory boards with 72-pin
headers rather than using SIMMs.
Based on what I can see in pictures online, the boards themselves don’t appear
to be anything special (they just carry TMS444000 etc. DRAM) and the
connections aren’t anything special
I'm aware of some airborne (avionics) computers that used i960s. There
were Mil-spec versions available.
I believe the i960 really only found a niche in embedded applications.
If I recall correctly, the i960 became available at about the same time
as the 80386 but was less expensive. At the
I have a file called November 1994 Walnut Creek CPM cdrom.iso
is this it? ~635 Mb - 46860 files.
Bill
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 10:52 PM Al Kossow via cctalk
wrote:
>
>
> On 10/29/18 6:11 AM, geneb via cctalk wrote:
>
> > This is going to be a long term project that will end when I've either
>
On 10/27/18 15:04, emanuel stiebler via cctalk wrote:
There was actually a nice PC Mainboard from Hauppauge, with an i486 &
i860 on the same board ...
Always wanted to have one of those, never found a used one. And it was
running some king of Unix back then ...
On 10/29/18 8:59 PM, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 05:43:37PM +0100, Holm Tiffe via cctalk wrote:
> [...]
>> For mission critical stuff this may be ok, but what's the
>> advantage for the desktop if you can't even run Virtualbox or Qemu,
>> simh, cpmsim, dosbox and other
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 05:53:30PM -0400, Sean Conner via cctalk wrote:
> It was thus said that the Great Tomasz Rola via cctalk once stated:
> > Ok guys, just to make things clearer, here are two pages from wiki:
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object-oriented_operating_system
> >
> >
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 05:43:37PM +0100, Holm Tiffe via cctalk wrote:
[...]
> For mission critical stuff this may be ok, but what's the
> advantage for the desktop if you can't even run Virtualbox or Qemu,
> simh, cpmsim, dosbox and other related stuff?
> The same problem on Dragonfly, Nice File
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 01:14:32AM +, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
>
> On 10/29/18 8:59 PM, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote:
[...]
> > and there are packages for dosbox, qemu and simhm albeit I cannot say
> > if versions are acceptable. The rest could perhaps be compiled from
> > source?
>
> Message: 28
> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 13:16:44 -0400
> From: "Jeffrey S. Worley"
> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: "Object Oriented GUI"
> Message-ID: <01e83dac0a96469e425a0632bd07319351c9362d.ca...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> I used OS/2 from 1993 to 2003
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 05:40:54AM +0100, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote:
[...]
> Anyway, I think it is obvious that doing mere OO system was not really
> big deal. Some of those projects were dying of old age by then. Some
> frameworks, like PVN, are nearly 30 years old today.
PVM, not PVN, sorry
> From: Chuck Guzis
> Danny Hillis' CM-1 also used lots of 1-bit processors.
Does anyone know why they didn't catch on? Was it something like 'commodity
'ordinary' processors became so cheap one could build large parallel machines
out of them, and each node had a lot more computing
On 10/28/18 11:02 PM, Patrick Finnegan via cctalk wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 10:34 PM Charles Dickman via cctalk
> wrote:
>> The boot ROMs for uPDP-11 contain loaders for XH (ethernet) was there any
>> kind of standard for the server?
> I'd guess that it was mostly for DECserver 500/550s
On 10/29/2018 05:28, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
Does anyone know why they didn't catch on? Was it something like 'commodity
'ordinary' processors became so cheap one could build large parallel machines
out of them, and each node had a lot more computing capability', or something
like that?
First up is the addition of Crescent Software's entire product line. The
company produced a number of good library suites in the late 80s and early
90's. Note these are all DOS products - the Windows product line was sold
in the early 90's.
http://annex.retroarchive.org/crescent/index.html
> On Oct 28, 2018, at 10:34 PM, Charles Dickman via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> The boot ROMs for uPDP-11 contain loaders for XH (ethernet) was there any
> kind of standard for the server?
>
> It tries to load from a MOP DL server and I have modified mopd from NetBSD
> to respond and load 2.11bsd
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, Ali wrote:
Next up is a HUGE CD-ROM and FTP site archive I've been working on.
http://www.retroarchive.org/cdrom/index.html
What I've done here is pull CD-ROMs from the Internet Archive and make
them easily browseable. I've also extracted the contents of each of
the
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, Tomasz Rola wrote:
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 06:11:14AM -0700, geneb via cctalk wrote:
First up is the addition of Crescent Software's entire product line.
The company produced a number of good library suites in the late 80s
and early 90's. Note these are all DOS products -
>the i860 found at least a little niche on graphics boards, so somehow
>not a complete failure ;-)
I'd be mildly surprised if Intel ever made enough from selling i860s
as GPUs to cover the cost of developing and marketing them. At the
time, Intel was pushing them as their RISC processor, and put
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 06:11:14AM -0700, geneb via cctalk wrote:
> First up is the addition of Crescent Software's entire product line.
> The company produced a number of good library suites in the late 80s
> and early 90's. Note these are all DOS products - the Windows
> product line was sold
Torfinn Ingolfsen via cctalk wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 10:16 PM Richard Loken via cctalk
> wrote:
> >
> > I am replying to this email on a FreeBSD 10.3 box and Motif. I don't
> > know what FreeBSD runs out of the box because I immediately delete it
> > and install Motif.
>
> FreeBSD
Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> On 10/23/18 3:29 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen via cctalk wrote:
>
> >> FreeBSD may not have the installed base of Linux but it has a its fans.
> >
> > Yes, this workstation runs FreeBSD 10.4 and Xfce.
>
> I prefer OpenBSD myself for mission-critical stuff--the nearly
Adrian Graham via cctalk wrote:
> >It looks nice externally, and it has the pedestal, which is nice, but the
> >seller has not even give the spec or posted pics of the innards and it is
> >"untested". At that price I would expect a bit more information..
>
> Instant alarm bells to me are a
> Next up is a HUGE CD-ROM and FTP site archive I've been working on.
>
> http://www.retroarchive.org/cdrom/index.html
>
> What I've done here is pull CD-ROMs from the Internet Archive and make
> them easily browseable. I've also extracted the contents of each of
> the
> zip, etc. files and
I know i960 is a very different beast, but was there ever any high level
OSs that ran on it? Or was it pidgin-holed as a high speed embedded
processor for storage controllers and NICs?
I picked up a cache of i960 CPUs a couple years ago and they speak to me
in tongues every time I pass by
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