Upon closer inspection, it appears as though I have no frame buffer. Drats.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ariFxb8xggERExkU9
Anyone have a spare that would work?
Thanks,
Kyle
On 07/12/2018 09:59, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote:
OK now I need a little help.
Does anybody know of a terminal emulation program that will simulate the reader
on an ASR33?
I know about RIM and BIN loaders but how and what to feed them I have long
forgotten
For a Unix or Linux machine,
minicom on Linux/*BSD and OS X, TeraTerm under Windows.
Thanks,
Jonathan
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 11:48 AM Jon Elson via cctalk
wrote:
> On 12/07/2018 03:59 AM, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote:
> >
> > Does anybody know of a terminal emulation program that will simulate the
> reader on an ASR33?
> >
What I do for loading paper tape into my PDP8E via the ASR33 is.
1. key in the RIM loader from the front panel 2. Run the RIM to load the a
copy of BIN from the ASR33 paper tape 3. Once the BIN is in core, you can
load any other file or program from the ASR 33 Paper tape.
What tapes do you have?
What I do for loading paper tape into my PDP8E via the ASR33 is.
1. key in the RIM loader from the front panel
2. Run the RIM to load the a copy of BIN from the ASR33 paper tape
3. Once the BIN is in core, you can load any other file or program from the
ASR 33 Paper tape.
What tapes do you have?
Indeed, unless you need character pacing.
Thanks,
Jonathan
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 12:13 PM Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> I just use ‘cat’. Seems to work fine. ;-)
>
> TTFN - Guy
>
> > On Dec 7, 2018, at 4:57 AM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk <
>
> On Dec 7, 2018, at 11:11 AM, Paul Birkel via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>
> Quoted from "DISK DRIVE CONTROL: THE EARLY YEARS" (Abramovitch & Franklin)
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/3206778_A_brief_history_of_disk_dri
> ve_control
>
> "DEC came out with the 125 TPI RL01 disk drive in
Oh good how do you set them to 110 baud?
Rod
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Sent: 07 December 2018 17:06
To: Jon Elson; CCTalk
Subject: Re: PDP-8/e
minicom on Linux/*BSD and OS X, TeraTerm under Windows.
Thanks,
Jonathan
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 11:48 AM Jon
Er whats tip?
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From: Warner Losh via cctalk
Sent: 07 December 2018 17:36
To: systems_glitch; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: PDP-8/e
These days I just use tip.
Warner
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 10:25 AM systems_glitch via cctalk <
On 07/12/2018 17:22, systems_glitch via cctalk wrote:
Indeed, unless you need character pacing.
Thanks,
Jonathan
That's just what I was going to say :-) And also provided you remember
which entry in /dev to redirect cat's output to, and what arcane stty
command you need to set baud rate
On a recent Reddit thread someone claimed that old PC monitors
and tube TVs are rising in popularity and price due to retro gamers.
Is this true?
I wouldn't want to sell anything on eBay I couldn't hold in
one hand at arm's length, especially when it comes to packing
and shipping.
- John
> From>: Christian Corti
> I thought that the DEC packs would be similar but no, DEC had to invent
> something different...
Huh? I thought RL0x drives use an IBM 5440 type pack (as used on the IBM
System/3 - I used one of those at my first computer job, they'd just gotten
it in); DEC
These days I just use tip.
Warner
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 10:25 AM systems_glitch via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org wrote:
> Indeed, unless you need character pacing.
>
> Thanks,
> Jonathan
>
> On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 12:13 PM Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> > I
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From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Noel
Chiappa via cctalk
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 10:24 AM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Cc: j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu
Subject: Re: Opening RL02 disk pack
> From>: Christian Corti
> I thought
On 12/07/2018 03:59 AM, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote:
Does anybody know of a terminal emulation program that will simulate the reader
on an ASR33?
I know about RIM and BIN loaders but how and what to feed them I have long
forgotten
My PDP-8 course completion certificate is dated November
On 12/07/2018 11:22 AM, systems_glitch via cctalk wrote:
Indeed, unless you need character pacing.
Actually, with the correct settings of the serial port
(xon/xoff or CTS pin) the serial port driver should do this,
too, so cat would work.
Jon
then theres those of us that take old tvs and make walls of tvs to display
games or animations at parties and such
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 12:01 PM John Foust via cctalk
wrote:
>
> On a recent Reddit thread someone claimed that old PC monitors
> and tube TVs are rising in popularity and price
Several years ago when I restored my 8/M, I whipped up
a quick and dirty program that uses TCL/Tk to make a
little graphical interface for selecting, reading, and punching
paper tape images. When running, it looks something
like this:
https://www.cs.drexel.edu/~bls96/museum/asrscreen.jpg
You
fre 2018-12-07 klockan 08:07 -0600 skrev Kyle Owen via cctalk:
> Upon closer inspection, it appears as though I have no frame buffer.
> Drats.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/ariFxb8xggERExkU9
>
> Anyone have a spare that would work?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kyle
You have one the ECL one ie (i think)
On 12/07/2018 11:38 AM, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote:
Oh good how do you set them to 110 baud?
Oh, WOW! Good catch, it only goes down to 300 baud! major
screwup, ought to be reported to the developers.
Jon
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 10:46 AM Stefan Skoglund
wrote:
>
> You have one the ECL one ie (i think) bwtwo.
>
> https://www.sun3arc.org/FEH/CPU/3_60.phtml
Ahh, so it's built onto the board itself. Cool. I'll see about what it
would take to convert it to something else; might be a good Verilog
The MAME folks have the 68K versions of the terminals mostly working in
simulation
now, and are wondering if anyone could dump the firmware from the 88K model,
which
has a similar hardware design.
On a recent Reddit thread someone claimed that old PC monitors
and tube TVs are rising in popularity and price due to retro gamers.
Is this true?
SOME TVs. Not every TV. The gamers want the pro broadcast video monitors
that have RGB inputs. Sony PVM and the like. Search ebay for Sony PVM RGB
tip is the standard BSD program for calling other unix systems. It's a fine
terminal program. 'tip -110 com1' is all you'd need to do in this case :).
Warner
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 10:39 AM Rod G8DGR
wrote:
> Er whats tip?
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail
> On Dec 7, 2018, at 2:06 PM, Ethan via cctalk wrote:
>
>> On a recent Reddit thread someone claimed that old PC monitors
>> and tube TVs are rising in popularity and price due to retro gamers.
>> Is this true?
>
> SOME TVs. Not every TV. The gamers want the pro broadcast video monitors that
10ms-30ms of latency in most cases. One frame time at 60fps is 16ms,
so if you wait for each picture to be completely scanned in over HDMI
before you start scanning it out to the glass then that's going to set
your minimum latency. And obviously if the input frame rate is less
than 60fps it's
Listed these on eBay a few times. No takers.
Being offered here for the price of USPS Media Mail cost. Total of 52 lbs of
books in 2 boxes. I estimate shipping at $137.
Price will be actual shipping cost payable by PayPal.
See books at http://www.myimagecollection.com/ITBooks/
hi
I have for sale a Tektronix xp217 unit, with its PSU and original CD software.
let me know if someone is interested.
On Dec 7, 2018, at 12:30 PM, Donald via cctalk wrote:
>
> Listed these on eBay a few times. No takers.
Did you list only the lot or the individual books? Asking people to buy the
whole lot might be the issue.
-- Chris
On Dec 6, 2018, at 2:39 PM, r.stricklin wrote:
> On Dec 6, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Josh Dersch via cctech wrote:
>
>> The Sun-1 absolutely had a framebuffer and a display and was not a
>> text-only machine, it did 1024x800 at 1bpp, had a mouse, the whole deal.
>
> The bwone is a 1024x1024
If you want to avoid shipping you see if there's a vintage arcade game
group in your area and see what they are looking for. Most people seem to
be replacing tubes with equivalent size panels, though.
BLASPHEMY! N!
There are no LCDs that are 4:3 above 21". Not 25", not 27/29" models.
The
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 4:39 AM Liam Proven via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 12:44, Tony Duell wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't think anyone is questioning that it's a workstation, and that
> it
> > was made by Sun.
> > >
> > > I think the problem is over
I think you need to recheck the shipping estimate.
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From: Donald via cctalk
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 3:30 PM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: IT books available
Listed these on eBay a few times. No takers.
Being offered here for the price of USPS Media
If you want to avoid shipping you see if there's a vintage arcade game
group in your area and see what they are looking for. Most people seem to
be replacing tubes with equivalent size panels, though.
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 10:01 AM John Foust via cctalk
wrote:
>
> On a recent Reddit thread
On Fri, 2018-12-07 at 14:18 -0500, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
> Does a plain LCD panel have delay? If not, what about a TV used as a
> monitor?
Depends what you mean by a "plain LCD panel". If you mean the glass
itself, no, they generally scan synchronously to the input signal and
don't have
Sorry. The lot was spoken for at 14:00 sharp Pacific time.
In my best Emily Litella voice: Never mind. :-)
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From: Guy Dunphy [mailto:gu...@optusnet.com.au]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 2:17 PM
To: cct...@emailtoilet.com; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic
Anyone has old DECUS distributions? I am looking for the PDP-11 SPACE WAR
program. It is supposed to be 11-192, written by William (Bill) Seilier and
Lawrence (Larry) Bryant in 1974.
https://i.imgur.com/rjaWX4X.png
It is a space war like program for the PDP-11/10 with AA11 and AD01.
Much later
At 01:32 PM 7/12/2018 -0800, you wrote:
>I don't have time or patience to list individually. I have found it takes
>at least 20 minutes per item to list something. Lots of time. Plus the
>listing fees, selling fees and postage vs what I could sell them for puts me
>at less than half old minimum
Teraterm on Windows definitely goes to 110 baud. I use it all the time...
Rob.
On 12/7/2018 10:38 AM, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote:
Oh good how do you set them to 110 baud?
Rod
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I don't have time or patience to list individually. I have found it takes
at least 20 minutes per item to list something. Lots of time. Plus the
listing fees, selling fees and postage vs what I could sell them for puts me
at less than half old minimum wage. :-)
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From:
> From: Paul Birkel
>> I thought RL0x drives use an IBM 5440 type pack (as used on the IBM
>> System/3 DEC may have used their own format (and servo track
>> stuff), I don't know much about the 5440.
> Sounds to me like it was different, but in a good way?
I took a
Den fre 7 dec. 2018 kl 23:04 skrev Al Kossow via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org>:
>
>
> On 12/7/18 1:25 PM, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote:
> > Anyone has old DECUS distributions?
>
> For all intents and purposes, no
>
> DECUS threw them out.
>
Sad.
>
> About the only thing that survives are the
someone should get the source off him and put it out on the web
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 4:34 PM Mattis Lind via cctalk
wrote:
> Den fre 7 dec. 2018 kl 23:04 skrev Al Kossow via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org>:
>
> >
> >
> > On 12/7/18 1:25 PM, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote:
> > > Anyone has
Hi All,
I have a PDP-8/e that's missing the knob on the front panel.
Does anyone have a spare for sale, or know of a compatible part?
Looking up the DEC parts numbers has turned up nothing but the
engineering drawings...
I've never seen another one in person so I can't tell if the knob is meant
On 12/7/2018 7:20 PM, Thomas Moss via cctalk wrote:
Hi All,
I have a PDP-8/e that's missing the knob on the front panel.
Does anyone have a spare for sale, or know of a compatible part?
Do you mean the knob that selects which data to display on the panel lights?
Got one, bit dinged up but
When I searched I saw something that said $2.63. I took that to be per
pound. Now I see elsewhere a 26 pound box is $15.41.
So let's says shipping will be $32. If it turns out to be more I will
request more. :-)
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Sent: Friday,
On 2018-12-07 4:37 PM, Donald via cctalk wrote:
> When I searched I saw something that said $2.63. I took that to be per
> pound. Now I see elsewhere a 26 pound box is $15.41.
>
> So let's says shipping will be $32. If it turns out to be more I will
> request more. :-)
>
Shipping isn't such a
On 12/7/18 1:25 PM, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote:
> Anyone has old DECUS distributions?
For all intents and purposes, no
DECUS threw them out.
About the only thing that survives are the titles that
were included on some of the SIG tapes.
Working on gathering what parts still survive in
bought this on eBay suspecting it was LSI-11 based because of the floppies
labeled DY:
https://www.ebay.com/itm//192437124163
It's kinda neat, has a very late (1989) AED WINC-05 disk controller in it, 11/73
and a bunch of custom daq boards.
It also has a Dilog Qbus to Unibus converter (didn't
Hi all --
Finally got all the parts together (and my act together) to actually get an
RK05 lashed up to my PDP-8/e -- only took a decade or so :). I fixed a few
problems with the RK05 and it appears to be behaving very nicely.
The RK8E controller is mostly working properly but fails
I have finished the 3rd phase of my IBM 1410 SMS computer
reverse-engineering project. The first phase was writing a software
machine-cycle simulator - almost 20 years ago, in part to verify I had
usable software. The 2nd phase was writing code and setting up a
database to do the 3rd phase -
It can only do 110 baud !!
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From: Pete Turnbull via cctalk
Sent: 08 December 2018 03:15
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: PDP-8/e
On 07/12/2018 17:46, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
> On 12/07/2018 11:38 AM, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote:
>> Oh good how do you set
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 10:29 PM Rod G8DGR via cctalk
wrote:
> It can only do 110 baud !!
>
Unless you have an oddball SLU, this is not true -- what do you have
installed? The earlier M8650 and the later M8655 can both be jumpered for
higher baud rates.
- Josh
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows
Will be having some extra brochures for plated memory from Memory systems Inc.
in El Segundo Calif. Available soon. appears to be from month 4 of 1973
and 3 different sheets both sides.
I know about core memory but this is something I never used..
these may be out
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 6:16 PM Al Kossow via cctalk bought this on eBay suspecting it was LSI-11 based because of the floppies
> labeled DY:
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm//192437124163
>
> It's kinda neat, has a very late (1989) AED WINC-05 disk controller in it,
> 11/73
> and a bunch of custom daq
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 9:58 PM Josh Dersch wrote:
> Hi all --
>
> Finally got all the parts together (and my act together) to actually get
> an RK05 lashed up to my PDP-8/e -- only took a decade or so :). I fixed a
> few problems with the RK05 and it appears to be behaving very nicely.
>
> The
On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 12:36 AM Josh Dersch via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 10:29 PM Rod G8DGR via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> wrote:
>
> > It can only do 110 baud !!
> >
>
> Unless you have an oddball SLU, this is not true -- what do you have
>
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 11:10 PM Rod G8DGR via cctalk
wrote:
> I’m sure that would work but I only have an 8650 110 baud only card
> Rod
>
The M8650 does a wide variety of baud rates. See here:
https://homepage.divms.uiowa.edu/~jones/pdp8/hard8e/kl8e.html
- Josh
>
>
> Sent from Mail for
Please ping me if you have media or archives of any version of domain for the
DN10K...
Thanks,
- I
On 12/07/2018 11:46 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
On 12/07/2018 11:38 AM, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote:
Oh good how do you set them to 110 baud?
Oh, WOW! Good catch, it only goes down to 300 baud!
major screwup, ought to be reported to the developers.
Jon
stty can set the speed to 110
On 07/12/2018 17:46, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
On 12/07/2018 11:38 AM, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote:
Oh good how do you set them to 110 baud?
Oh, WOW! Good catch, it only goes down to 300 baud! major screwup,
ought to be reported to the developers.
But wouldn't it be better to set the
On 07/12/2018 17:44, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
On 12/07/2018 11:22 AM, systems_glitch via cctalk wrote:
Indeed, unless you need character pacing.
Actually, with the correct settings of the serial port (xon/xoff or CTS
pin) the serial port driver should do this, too, so cat would work.
A
On 12/7/2018 7:01 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
On 07/12/2018 17:44, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
On 12/07/2018 11:22 AM, systems_glitch via cctalk wrote:
Indeed, unless you need character pacing.
Actually, with the correct settings of the serial port (xon/xoff or
CTS pin) the serial
I’m sure that would work but I only have an 8650 110 baud only card
Rod
Sent from Mail for Windows 110 baud
From: Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk
Sent: 08 December 2018 03:41
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: PDP-8/e
On 12/7/2018 7:01 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
> On 07/12/2018
I just use ‘cat’. Seems to work fine. ;-)
TTFN - Guy
> On Dec 7, 2018, at 4:57 AM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 07/12/2018 09:59, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote:
>
>> OK now I need a little help.
>> Does anybody know of a terminal emulation program that will simulate the
>> reader
Hi All
Seasons Greetings..
My PDP-8/e was long due for a major overhaul.
1. So everything out
2. Big Hoover job on the Omnibus
3. Bring up on Variac – No smoke
4. Check PSU volts. – All OK
5. Power off
6. Install minimal System – Front Panel, Three CPU cards, RFI shield, 4k Core
and Bus
Congrats!!
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 3:59 AM Rod G8DGR via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Hi All
>Seasons Greetings..
>
> My PDP-8/e was long due for a major overhaul.
> 1. So everything out
> 2. Big Hoover job on the Omnibus
> 3. Bring up on Variac – No smoke
> 4. Check PSU volts. – All OK
> 5. Power off
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018, it was written
I don't know that anyone did that back in the day - the pack cleaners
I'm aware of had arms that wiped the top and bottom surfaces of the
platter while the platter was still mounted inside the shell. I know
Well I don't have an RL pack cleaner. And in my
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