Re: [Simh] Fwd: VAX + Spectre

2019-09-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 02:19, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > ... > Speaking of timing, that reminds me of two amazing security holes written up > in the past few years. Nothing to do with the Spectre etc. issue. > > One is the recovery of speech from an encrypted VoIP channel such as Skype,

Re: [Simh] Fwd: VAX + Spectre

2019-09-18 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk
> On Sep 18, 2019, at 9:59 AM, Chris Elmquist wrote: > > On Wednesday (09/18/2019 at 09:19AM -0700), Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk wrote: >> >> >>> On Sep 18, 2019, at 12:42 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk >>> wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 02:19, Paul Koning via cctalk >>> wrote: >

Re: [Simh] Fwd: VAX + Spectre

2019-09-18 Thread Chris Elmquist via cctalk
On Wednesday (09/18/2019 at 09:19AM -0700), Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk wrote: > > > > On Sep 18, 2019, at 12:42 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk > > wrote: > > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 02:19, Paul Koning via cctalk > > wrote: > >>> ... > >> Speaking of timing, that reminds me of two amazing

Re: [Simh] Fwd: VAX + Spectre

2019-09-18 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk
> On Sep 18, 2019, at 12:42 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk > wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 02:19, Paul Koning via cctalk > wrote: >>> ... >> Speaking of timing, that reminds me of two amazing security holes written up >> in the past few years. Nothing to do with the Spectre etc. issue. >>

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

2019-09-18 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Kevin Monceaux > I'm not sure what it is about phone systems. ... I don't know why I'm > doing this. Oh, and the rest of us have a real use/need for old, slow, small (by modern standards) systems that use a ton of power? :-) Noel

Re: KiCad pcb file

2019-09-18 Thread systems_glitch via cctalk
We have to clean it up but we've got the pattern for a quad height prototype board. I can share the outline and edge connectors once it's 100% verified. Thanks, Jonathan On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 7:54 PM David Bridgham via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 9/17/19 15:00, Ed Groenenberg

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

2019-09-18 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 01:32:21PM -0500, jwest--- via cctalk wrote: > I know zilch about phone systems, and don’t want to know anything about > phone systems  They were on the wall of a warehouse telco closet that my > client just rented and we need the space on the dmarc wall for a rack. If >

Re: DEC RP04 service manual available

2019-09-18 Thread P Gebhardt via cctalk
Hi Noel, I am very glad that you're the one who put hands on it. I planned to get it with the same intention to scan it for bitsavers, but then I got distracted and missed it! Best regards, Pierre -

DEC RP04 service manual available

2019-09-18 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
So I have just acquired a copy of the service manual for the RP04 drive (ISS model 733). Does anyone have an immediate need to look at this? If so, I can put it on the top of the 'to scan' stack. Noel

phone systems, old and less-old

2019-09-18 Thread jwest--- via cctalk
I know some peeps here are phone pholks…..See www.ezwind.net/phonestuff One is an old “bell system western electric”. It seems to have a few 66 blocks just under the cover, a power supply, and some kind of modules that plug in. The other is a Nortel

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

2019-09-18 Thread Ethan O'Toole via cctalk
The other is a Nortel Networks ICS. It feels way too light, not sure if anything is in it. There is another piece of Nortel gear on the wall, seems to be some kind of wireless? thingy called Nortel Networks Call Pilot 100. Call Pilot is an automated call routing plus voicemail system (thanks

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

2019-09-18 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
One aspect of the RJ21 coding that's always puzzled me was the ordering of the colors. 25 pairs, where White Red Black Yellow Violet for each "bank" and within each bank Blue Orange Green Brown Gray So the first pair would be White-Blue and the last (25th) would be Violet-Gray Does anyone know

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

2019-09-18 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 09/18/2019 09:23 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: Please don't let anybody call the 25 pair 50-pin miniature ribbon connector (RJ21), "Centronics"! On Wed, 18 Sep 2019, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: We used to call them "blue ribbon" connectors. I'm sure that that's also a misnomer.

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

2019-09-18 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 09/18/2019 08:27 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: On Wed, 18 Sep 2019, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: Oh, my Gosh! the first 3 pics are of a KTU phone system. If you are OLD enough, remember the phones with 5 line select buttons and a red hold button below the rotary dial? That is what

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

2019-09-18 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 09/18/2019 01:32 PM, jwest--- via cctalk wrote: I know some peeps here are phone pholks…..See www.ezwind.net/phonestuff Oh, my Gosh! the first 3 pics are of a KTU phone system. If you are OLD enough, remember the phones with 5 line select buttons

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

2019-09-18 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Wed, 18 Sep 2019, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: Oh, my Gosh! the first 3 pics are of a KTU phone system. If you are OLD enough, remember the phones with 5 line select buttons and a red hold button below the rotary dial? That is what that unit supports, the 565 phone. Please don't let

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

2019-09-18 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 9/18/19 6:16 PM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:   > Oh, my Gosh!  the first 3 pics are of a KTU phone system.  If you are > OLD enough, remember the phones with 5 line select buttons and a red > hold button below the rotary dial?  That is what that unit supports, the > 565 phone. You have to be

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

2019-09-18 Thread Frank McConnell via cctalk
On Sep 18, 2019, at 11:32, jwest--- via cctalk wrote: > > I know some peeps here are phone pholks…..See www.ezwind.net/phonestuff > > > > > One is an old “bell system western electric”. It seems to have a few 66 > blocks just under the cover, a power

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

2019-09-18 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
Alleluia! A kindred soul!  I have spent the latter half of my life trying to tell people that the Centronics Data Computer Co of Hudson NJ NEVER used a 50-pin connector!  The Amp 57-10360 would have been a 57-10500 if they had :-) cheers, Nigel On 18/09/2019 21:27, Fred Cisin via cctalk

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

2019-09-18 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 9/18/19 6:27 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > Please don't let anybody call the 25 pair 50-pin miniature ribbon > connector (RJ21),  "Centronics"! We used to call them "blue ribbon" connectors. I'm sure that that's also a misnomer. --Chuck

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

2019-09-18 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Please don't let anybody call the 25 pair 50-pin miniature ribbon connector (RJ21),  "Centronics"! On Wed, 18 Sep 2019, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: We used to call them "blue ribbon" connectors. I'm sure that that's also a misnomer. I still believe that that is the correct name. I've