Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

2016-02-01 Thread Eric Smith
On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 10:24 PM, John Wilson wrote: >>I'd really like to get the F11 base instruction set control (part of >>the DCF11 hybrid) and the KEF11-B CIS (six chip hybrid spanning two >>40-pin DIP sockets) to be dumped in this way, but only if someone is >>willing to

Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

2016-02-01 Thread Henk Gooijen
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Pete Lancashire Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 5:22 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option Spend the extra few dollars (or what your currency is) and pack it in a very strong box. I've

USPS: Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

2016-02-01 Thread Ken Seefried
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016, Pete Lancashire wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Henk Gooijen >> wrote: >> >> Spend the extra few dollars (or what your currency is) and pack it in a >> very strong box. I've actually had EPROMs show up cracked in half > >Seconded. The

Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

2016-01-31 Thread Eric Smith
On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Brian L. Stuart wrote: > I'll be glad to loan them to you for the good of the community and history. That would be great, thanks! I'll email you my contact information. Could you please post the markings of the other 40-pin chips as

Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

2016-01-31 Thread Brian L. Stuart
On Sat, 1/30/16, Eric Smith wrote: > Does anyone have a PDP-11/03 or LSI-11 with the KEV11-C CIS > (Commercial Instruction Set) option? It may have also been known as > DIS (Dibol Instruction Set).  It apparently consists of two microcode > ROM chips (MICROMs), 23-004B5 and

Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

2016-01-31 Thread John Wilson
On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 05:16:18PM -0700, Eric Smith wrote: >On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Henk Gooijen wrote: >> are yo looking for the 11/03 CPU board, or is the >> CIS "QIL" chip enough? QIL=Quad In Line , I made that up >> as the CIS chip I am thinking of si 40

Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

2016-01-31 Thread Pete Lancashire
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 1:16 AM > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option > > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Henk Gooijen <henk.gooi...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >> are yo looking for the 11/03

Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

2016-01-31 Thread Eric Smith
On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 2:24 AM, Henk Gooijen wrote: > OK, if nobody in the USA steps up, I will check where I have > stored that little box. At least, I am pretty sure I have that chip. > I can do that this week. Insured shipping would not cost much > is it is tiny

Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

2016-01-31 Thread Eric Smith
On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 11:38 AM, John Wilson wrote: > On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 05:16:18PM -0700, Eric Smith wrote: >>Just looking for the CIS chip(s), and just to borrow long enough to >>dump the microcode. > > This is the first I'm hearing that there was a CIS micROM option for

Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

2016-01-31 Thread Tothwolf
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016, Pete Lancashire wrote: On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Henk Gooijen wrote: OK, if nobody in the USA steps up, I will check where I have stored that little box. At least, I am pretty sure I have that chip. I can do that this week. Insured

Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

2016-01-31 Thread John Wilson
On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 03:52:57PM -0700, Eric Smith wrote: >I think the KEV11-C is not full CIS, but rather a subset. It's usually >described as DIBOL Instruction Set (DIS). OK the DIS part is hazily familiar, but still, neat! >> I have the QIL CIS micROM for the LSI-11/23, and I too have been

Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

2016-01-30 Thread Paul Anderson
I know one person who has one. I think I had a few at one time, but it's been years since I've seen them. On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Eric Smith wrote: > Does anyone have a PDP-11/03 or LSI-11 with the KEV11-C CIS > (Commercial Instruction Set) option? It may have also

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-10 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Nov 10, 2015, at 05:56, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > (Actually, although there are only 10 pins, it looks like the connector > housings will hold 14-pin shells, so it you want to not have to carefully > align the cable before plugging it in, go for 14's. Haven't tried

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-10 Thread Christian Corti
On Mon, 9 Nov 2015, Johnny Billquist wrote: Normally, you'd call them Tx, Rx and GND, but anyway... No, you do not need to loop back any signals. DEC didn't like to abuse modem control for flow control. What about the connections between the TTL signals and the line drivers/receivers? There

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-10 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Jim Stephensn > thanks for the help. Eh, always happy to help anyone with PDP-11 stuff. > the buddy mentioned above did a lot of dec maintenance and put these > cables in a pile as he found them.. They're probably worth a good bit now, given how scarce they are! ;-)

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-10 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-11-10 11:55, Christian Corti wrote: On Mon, 9 Nov 2015, Johnny Billquist wrote: Normally, you'd call them Tx, Rx and GND, but anyway... No, you do not need to loop back any signals. DEC didn't like to abuse modem control for flow control. What about the connections between the TTL

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-09 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Henk Gooijen > As far as my limited PDP-11 knowledge goes, none of them used > handshake. I'm pretty sure this is true of all the ones that had a hardwired serial console - it's definitely true of the 11/23 and J11 chip ones (/73, etc), and probably the 11/03's too (although

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-09 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-11-09 21:13, jwsmobile wrote: On 11/9/2015 4:09 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Jim Stephensn > I'm looking for a cable or cable pinout to get the console of this > 11/03 going. > ... > It has a M7940-YA DLV11 controller. Hmm. I can't find anything online

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-09 Thread jwsmobile
On 11/9/2015 4:09 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Jim Stephensn > I'm looking for a cable or cable pinout to get the console of this > 11/03 going. > ... > It has a M7940-YA DLV11 controller. Hmm. I can't find anything online about the -YA variant of the DLV11; the

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-09 Thread Henk Gooijen
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: jwsmobile Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 9:13 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: PDP 11/03 I am mainly asking if I want to hook up a terminal, can I get it going with TD, RD and GND (or 2 3 7 on a DB25), or do I need

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-09 Thread jwsmobile
On 11/9/2015 12:22 PM, Henk Gooijen wrote: -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: jwsmobile Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 9:13 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: PDP 11/03 I am mainly asking if I want to hook up a terminal, can I get it going with TD, RD

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-09 Thread Mark J. Blair
Just in case it helps, a while back I made a little board to adapt DLV11 plugs to 8p8c modular jacks, since I'm rediscovering the utility of adapting everything I own to common serial pinouts. It's not packaged up for public consumption very well yet (including a link in the documentation to a

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-09 Thread jwsmobile
On 11/9/2015 7:31 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Jim Stephensn > The 9400-YE has the cables that formerly went to the 11-780. I'm not > sure what it does. ... I'm not sure if the M9400 needs to be pulled or > not to run the system. This one I actually can answer, since

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-09 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Jim Stephensn > The 9400-YE has the cables that formerly went to the 11-780. I'm not > sure what it does. ... I'm not sure if the M9400 needs to be pulled or > not to run the system. This one I actually can answer, since I've been looking for /780 documentation: found

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-09 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Jim Stephensn >> I can supply both null-modem and non-null-modem cable diagrams (for >> DB25 connectors, already worked out; I have made DB9 serial cables, >> but not for direct connection to a DLV11, but could generate those >> too). > I'd love that OK, here are

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-09 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-11-10 00:05, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Johnny Billquist > I doubt the -YA makes any significant difference here. > ... > Note that a -YA normally means it's just a board with a newer revision. > It do not normally means any change in functionality, except

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-09 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-11-09 23:05, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Henk Gooijen > As far as my limited PDP-11 knowledge goes, none of them used > handshake. I'm pretty sure this is true of all the ones that had a hardwired serial console - it's definitely true of the 11/23 and J11 chip ones (/73,

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-09 Thread jwsmobile
On 11/9/2015 1:48 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Jim Stephensn >> "extra wires to bring out clock & .. 110/300 speed change" > I am mainly asking if I want to hook up a terminal, can I get it going > with TD, RD and GND (or 2 3 7 on a DB25), or do I need to loop back any

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-09 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Johnny Billquist > I doubt the -YA makes any significant difference here. > ... > Note that a -YA normally means it's just a board with a newer revision. > It do not normally means any change in functionality, except perhaps > some improvement. But in general

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-11-09 Thread jwsmobile
On 11/9/2015 4:42 PM, jwsmobile wrote: On 11/9/2015 1:48 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Jim Stephensn >> "extra wires to bring out clock & .. 110/300 speed change" > I am mainly asking if I want to hook up a terminal, can I get it going > with TD, RD and GND (or 2 3

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-10-05 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Jim S > I suspect I also need an additional card at minimum for my escapade, > and I'm not sure if one card will do it. > I've got pretty much one of every 2 size processor and the 11/03 4 up > processor card. I also have several serial cards, and some memory. Then

Re: PDP 11/03

2015-10-04 Thread Paul Anderson
I have some M7940 and other DLVs, and a few boxes. Let me know what all you need. On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 12:47 AM, jwsmobile wrote: > I've been gathering bits and pieces from recent Ebay purchases and would > like to see if anyone has a spare 11/03 or 11/23 qbus type box. > >