Re: phone systems, old and less-old

On 9/19/19 6:37 PM, Kevin Monceaux via cctalk wrote: > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 11:23:38AM -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > >> What's in a name? > > Accuracy. > >> It looked gray to me. > > Me too. But enough videos that I watched featured individuals who felt > compelled to emphasize

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 11:23:38AM -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > What's in a name? Accuracy. > It looked gray to me. Me too. But enough videos that I watched featured individuals who felt compelled to emphasize that were telco cables are concerned, the colors are violet and slate,

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

On 9/19/19 9:56 AM, Kevin Monceaux via cctalk wrote: > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 09:05:07PM -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > >> 25 pairs, where >> >> White Red Black Yellow Violet for each "bank" and within each bank >> Blue Orange Green Brown Gray > >>From what I've heard and read, where a

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

Please don't let anybody call the 25 pair 50-pin miniature ribbon connector (RJ21), "Centronics"! We used to call them "blue ribbon" connectors. I'm sure that that's also a misnomer. I still believe that that is the correct name. I've always assumed that that was Amphenol's name for that line

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

On 9/19/19 9:56 AM, Kevin Monceaux via cctalk wrote: > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 09:05:07PM -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > >> 25 pairs, where >> >> White Red Black Yellow Violet for each "bank" and within each bank >> Blue Orange Green Brown Gray > >>From what I've heard and read, where a

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

On 9/19/19 12:56 PM, Kevin Monceaux via cctalk wrote: > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 09:05:07PM -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > >> 25 pairs, where >> >> White Red Black Yellow Violet for each "bank" and within each bank >> Blue Orange Green Brown Gray > > From what I've heard and read, where

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 09:05:07PM -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > 25 pairs, where > > White Red Black Yellow Violet for each "bank" and within each bank > Blue Orange Green Brown Gray >From what I've heard and read, where a 25 pair cable is concerned, it's slate, not gray. --

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 06:34:55PM -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > You have to be OLD to have used these? Golly, maybe I really am OLD. No. I encountered similar phones at a Service Merchandise I worked at in the early '90s. They were connected to some type of early PBX system. I

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

One aspect of the RJ21 coding that's always puzzled me was the ordering of the colors. 25 pairs, where White Red Black Yellow Violet for each "bank" and within each bank Blue Orange Green Brown Gray So the first pair would be White-Blue and the last (25th) would be Violet-Gray Does anyone know

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

On 09/18/2019 09:23 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: Please don't let anybody call the 25 pair 50-pin miniature ribbon connector (RJ21), "Centronics"! On Wed, 18 Sep 2019, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: We used to call them "blue ribbon" connectors. I'm sure that that's also a misnomer.

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

On 09/18/2019 08:27 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: On Wed, 18 Sep 2019, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: Oh, my Gosh! the first 3 pics are of a KTU phone system. If you are OLD enough, remember the phones with 5 line select buttons and a red hold button below the rotary dial? That is what

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

Please don't let anybody call the 25 pair 50-pin miniature ribbon connector (RJ21),  "Centronics"! On Wed, 18 Sep 2019, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: We used to call them "blue ribbon" connectors. I'm sure that that's also a misnomer. I still believe that that is the correct name. I've

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

On 9/18/19 6:27 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > Please don't let anybody call the 25 pair 50-pin miniature ribbon > connector (RJ21),  "Centronics"! We used to call them "blue ribbon" connectors. I'm sure that that's also a misnomer. --Chuck

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Alleluia! A kindred soul!  I have spent the latter half of my life trying to tell people that the Centronics Data Computer Co of Hudson NJ NEVER used a 50-pin connector!  The Amp 57-10360 would have been a 57-10500 if they had :-) cheers, Nigel On 18/09/2019 21:27, Fred Cisin via cctalk

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

On Sep 18, 2019, at 11:32, jwest--- via cctalk wrote: > > I know some peeps here are phone pholks…..See www.ezwind.net/phonestuff > > > > > One is an old “bell system western electric”. It seems to have a few 66 > blocks just under the cover, a power

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

On 9/18/19 6:16 PM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:   > Oh, my Gosh!  the first 3 pics are of a KTU phone system.  If you are > OLD enough, remember the phones with 5 line select buttons and a red > hold button below the rotary dial?  That is what that unit supports, the > 565 phone. You have to be

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

On Wed, 18 Sep 2019, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: Oh, my Gosh! the first 3 pics are of a KTU phone system. If you are OLD enough, remember the phones with 5 line select buttons and a red hold button below the rotary dial? That is what that unit supports, the 565 phone. Please don't let

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

On 09/18/2019 01:32 PM, jwest--- via cctalk wrote: I know some peeps here are phone pholks…..See www.ezwind.net/phonestuff Oh, my Gosh! the first 3 pics are of a KTU phone system. If you are OLD enough, remember the phones with 5 line select buttons

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

> From: Kevin Monceaux > I'm not sure what it is about phone systems. ... I don't know why I'm > doing this. Oh, and the rest of us have a real use/need for old, slow, small (by modern standards) systems that use a ton of power? :-) Noel

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 01:32:21PM -0500, jwest--- via cctalk wrote: > I know zilch about phone systems, and don’t want to know anything about > phone systems  They were on the wall of a warehouse telco closet that my > client just rented and we need the space on the dmarc wall for a rack. If >

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The other is a Nortel Networks ICS. It feels way too light, not sure if anything is in it. There is another piece of Nortel gear on the wall, seems to be some kind of wireless? thingy called Nortel Networks Call Pilot 100. Call Pilot is an automated call routing plus voicemail system (thanks