Re: two questions concerning fast burning and burn-free

2003-07-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 11:49:32PM +0200, Lourens Veen wrote: > I think I know why too. UNIX has traditionally been used on large > machines, servers and mainframes, not on consumer-grade PCs. Those > big machines don't have IDE. The low end has SCSI, and maybe the > high end too I don't know, b

Re: two questions concerning fast burning and burn-free

2003-07-16 Thread Lourens Veen
On Wed 16 July 2003 16:19, Joerg Schilling wrote: > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jul 16 15:36:51 2003 > > >> Linus Torvalds usually blocks them :-( > > > >May I make a suggestion? Joerg! Next time you feel like claiming > > that Linus Torvalds (or anybody else in person, Alan Cox > > maybe?) is so to

Re: two questions concerning fast burning and burn-free

2003-07-16 Thread Markus Plail
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Anssi Saari wrote: >On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 07:08:54PM +0200, Markus Plail wrote: >> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Anssi Saari wrote: >> > On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 10:24:37AM +0200, Markus Plail wrote: >> >> > or that >> >> > * 2.4 can talk to burner in DMA, but only for 2048 block si

Re: two questions concerning fast burning and burn-free

2003-07-16 Thread Markus Plail
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Anssi Saari wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 10:24:37AM +0200, Markus Plail wrote: >> > or that >> > * 2.4 can talk to burner in DMA, but only for 2048 block sizes. >> >> Yes, exactly. > > Why is it then that this problem seems to affect only VIA 686b and > Intel ICH4 southbr

Re: two questions concerning fast burning and burn-free

2003-07-16 Thread Anssi Saari
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 10:24:37AM +0200, Markus Plail wrote: > > or that > > * 2.4 can talk to burner in DMA, but only for 2048 block sizes. > > Yes, exactly. Why is it then that this problem seems to affect only VIA 686b and Intel ICH4 southbridges? I'll have to admit I only run a 16x burne

Re: two questions concerning fast burning and burn-free

2003-07-16 Thread Markus Plail
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Let me make an example: A few weeks ago, Jeff Garzik announced a new > SCSI interface for ATAPI. > > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10539253612&r=3&w=2 > > If you read this thread, you see that Linus obviously does not > understand the background

Re: two questions concerning fast burning and burn-free

2003-07-16 Thread Joerg Schilling
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jul 16 15:36:51 2003 >> Linus Torvalds usually blocks them :-( >May I make a suggestion? Joerg! Next time you feel like claiming that >Linus Torvalds (or anybody else in person, Alan Cox maybe?) is so to say >sitting around and deliberately tries to complicate your li

Re: two questions concerning fast burning and burn-free

2003-07-16 Thread Andy Polyakov
> Linus Torvalds usually blocks them :-( May I make a suggestion? Joerg! Next time you feel like claiming that Linus Torvalds (or anybody else in person, Alan Cox maybe?) is so to say sitting around and deliberately tries to complicate your life as cdrecord developer, then I suggest to take a deep

Re: two questions concerning fast burning and burn-free

2003-07-16 Thread Joerg Schilling
>Old-Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> If you like to write in 52x, you just need a OS that implements DMA. >Hmm. Does this mean that, if the transferspeed TO the burner is too >slow, ie not UDMA but PIO, these underruns can occur? >I always thought that this is a matter of to slow hard disks n

Re: two questions concerning fast burning and burn-free

2003-07-16 Thread Joerg Schilling
>From: Matthias Schniedermeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> The first: How fast is it theoretically possible with an UDMA100 >> harddisk to burn *without* burnfree protection? If I burn with my >> plextor premium at full speed I would always get buffer underruns. >With the upcoming Linux-2.6 Kernel y

Re: two questions concerning fast burning and burn-free

2003-07-16 Thread Markus Plail
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Norbert Preining wrote: > What are the *theoretically* maximum speeds for audio, ie not DMA, > burning? It depends on too many things to tell the theoretically maximum speed. > I guess that it is around 12x, this is what I see at the final speed > result. Depending on the d

Re: two questions concerning fast burning and burn-free

2003-07-16 Thread Joerg Schilling
>From: Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I have two questions concerning burning with/without burn-free: >The first: How fast is it theoretically possible with an UDMA100 >harddisk to burn *without* burnfree protection? If I burn with my >plextor premium at full speed I would always get buff

Re: two questions concerning fast burning and burn-free

2003-07-16 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mit, 16 Jul 2003, Joerg Schilling wrote: > If you like to write at maximum speed, you _need_ to disable Burn-Free > because the drive reduces the maximum write speed if Burn-Free has been > enabled! OK, I understand. > If you like to write in 52x, you just need a OS that implements DMA. Hmm.

Re: two questions concerning fast burning and burn-free

2003-07-16 Thread Matthias Schniedermeyer
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 09:11:02AM +0200, Markus Plail wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Matthias Schniedermeyer wrote: > > >On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 12:54:03AM +0200, Norbert Preining wrote: > >> I have two questions concerning burning with/without burn-free: > >> > >> The first: How fast is it theor

Re: two questions concerning fast burning and burn-free

2003-07-16 Thread Markus Plail
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Norbert Preining wrote: >On Mit, 16 Jul 2003, Matthias Schniedermeyer wrote: >> With the upcoming Linux-2.6 Kernel you will be able to burn with full >> speed because the 2.6-Kernel can talk to the burner in DMA mode. >> Current 2.4 Kernel isn't capable of doing this. > > On

Re: two questions concerning fast burning and burn-free

2003-07-16 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mit, 16 Jul 2003, Matthias Schniedermeyer wrote: > With the upcoming Linux-2.6 Kernel you will be able to burn with full > speed because the 2.6-Kernel can talk to the burner in DMA mode. > Current 2.4 Kernel isn't capable of doing this. On Mit, 16 Jul 2003, Markus Plail wrote: > That's only tr

Re: two questions concerning fast burning and burn-free

2003-07-16 Thread Monty
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 09:11:02AM +0200, Markus Plail wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Matthias Schniedermeyer wrote: > > >On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 12:54:03AM +0200, Norbert Preining wrote: > >> I have two questions concerning burning with/without burn-free: > >> > >> The first: How fast is it th

Re: two questions concerning fast burning and burn-free

2003-07-16 Thread Markus Plail
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Matthias Schniedermeyer wrote: >On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 12:54:03AM +0200, Norbert Preining wrote: >> I have two questions concerning burning with/without burn-free: >> >> The first: How fast is it theoretically possible with an UDMA100 >> harddisk to burn *without* burnfree p

Re: two questions concerning fast burning and burn-free

2003-07-15 Thread Matthias Schniedermeyer
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 12:54:03AM +0200, Norbert Preining wrote: > Hello friends! > > I have two questions concerning burning with/without burn-free: > > The first: How fast is it theoretically possible with an UDMA100 > harddisk to burn *without* burnfree protection? If I burn with my > plextor

two questions concerning fast burning and burn-free

2003-07-15 Thread Norbert Preining
Hello friends! I have two questions concerning burning with/without burn-free: The first: How fast is it theoretically possible with an UDMA100 harddisk to burn *without* burnfree protection? If I burn with my plextor premium at full speed I would always get buffer underruns. Connected to this: