Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-18 Thread Ross Walker
On Dec 18, 2008, at 12:24 PM, "John" wrote: > >> -Original Message- >> From: centos-boun...@centos.org >> [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Matt >> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:37 AM >> To: CentOS mailing list >>

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-18 Thread Ross Walker
On Dec 18, 2008, at 12:59 PM, Matt wrote: >> That's why I asked what kind of Controler the board had on it in a >> previous >> post to you and stated ram was not the suspect problem. IMO if you >> keeped >> the dual core proc and just switched to ICH7 Board you would have >> saved >> money

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-18 Thread Matt
> That's why I asked what kind of Controler the board had on it in a previous > post to you and stated ram was not the suspect problem. IMO if you keeped > the dual core proc and just switched to ICH7 Board you would have saved > money. Your utilization rate would probly stayed the same or no highe

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-18 Thread John
> -Original Message- > From: centos-boun...@centos.org > [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Matt > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:37 AM > To: CentOS mailing list > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM > > >> A bit of bottle neck. > >&

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-18 Thread Matt
>> A bit of bottle neck. >> >> Device:rrqm/s wrqm/s r/s w/s rsec/s wsec/srkB/swkB/s >> avgrq-sz avgqu-sz await svctm %util >> sda 0.38 176.63 70.32 78.26 813.46 2044.82 406.73 1022.41 >> 19.24 0.40 19.17 4.04 60.07 >> sda1 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.0

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-11 Thread John
On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 10:40 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote: > MHR wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 9:25 AM, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Like this: > > > > > > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.9-78.0.8.ELsmp ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 > > > elevater=deadline > > > > > > > The above should

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-11 Thread Ralph Angenendt
MHR wrote: > On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 9:25 AM, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Like this: > > > > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.9-78.0.8.ELsmp ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 > > elevater=deadline > > > > The above should be all on one line. And my dictionary tells me that it should be elevator. R

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-10 Thread MHR
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > echo 'deadline' > /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler > -bash: /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler: No such file or directory > > ls -l /sys/block/sda/queue/ > total 0 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root0 Dec 8 17:45 iosched > -r--r--r-- 1 roo

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-10 Thread MHR
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 9:25 AM, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Like this: > > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.9-78.0.8.ELsmp ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 > elevater=deadline > The above should be all on one line. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-10 Thread John
On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 10:56 -0600, Matt wrote: > > Yes follow up to previous mail. That would be correct for those two. My > > opinions do not change however, I just saw the mail where it did not > > work because he has V4.x and needs to use grub.conf. > > In grub.conf I have this: > > --- > #bo

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-10 Thread Matt
> Yes follow up to previous mail. That would be correct for those two. My > opinions do not change however, I just saw the mail where it did not > work because he has V4.x and needs to use grub.conf. In grub.conf I have this: --- #boot=/dev/sda default=0 timeout=5 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-10 Thread John
On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 17:02 +0100, Peter Kjellstrom wrote: > On Wednesday 10 December 2008, John wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 12:07 -0500, Ross Walker wrote: > > > On Dec 9, 2008, at 10:59 AM, Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Setting scheduler is global in C4 it can be set as a kerne

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-10 Thread John
On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 17:02 +0100, Peter Kjellstrom wrote: > On Wednesday 10 December 2008, John wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 12:07 -0500, Ross Walker wrote: > > > On Dec 9, 2008, at 10:59 AM, Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Setting scheduler is global in C4 it can be set as a kerne

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-10 Thread Matt
> The Schedular is CFQ and can be changed on the fly to whatever Block > Device you want it. It does not matter what load the system is under. > Changing to Deadline on his specific block device will improve the I/O > of the system unless it really being hammered. Keep in mind these > changes will

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-10 Thread Peter Kjellstrom
On Wednesday 10 December 2008, John wrote: > On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 12:07 -0500, Ross Walker wrote: > > On Dec 9, 2008, at 10:59 AM, Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Setting scheduler is global in C4 it can be set as a kernel option > > with a scheduler=deadline in grub. > > >>> > > >>>

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-10 Thread John
On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 12:07 -0500, Ross Walker wrote: > On Dec 9, 2008, at 10:59 AM, Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Setting scheduler is global in C4 it can be set as a kernel option > with a scheduler=deadline in grub. > >>> > >>> Is that an alias for "elevator=deadline" (which I

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-09 Thread Ross Walker
On Dec 9, 2008, at 10:59 AM, Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Setting scheduler is global in C4 it can be set as a kernel option with a scheduler=deadline in grub. >>> >>> Is that an alias for "elevator=deadline" (which I know works)? >> >> No that was me forgetting the option name. >> >

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-09 Thread linux-crazy
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Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-09 Thread Matt
>>> Setting scheduler is global in C4 it can be set as a kernel option >>> with a scheduler=deadline in grub. >> >> Is that an alias for "elevator=deadline" (which I know works)? > > No that was me forgetting the option name. > > Thanks Peter, it's elevator= not scheduler= Does this mean I need to

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-09 Thread Ross Walker
On Dec 9, 2008, at 3:30 AM, Peter Kjellstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 09 December 2008, Ross Walker wrote: >> On Dec 8, 2008, at 6:51 PM, Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... Try setting the scheduler to 'deadline' and see if the queue sizes shrink. >>> >>> I have google

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-09 Thread Peter Kjellstrom
On Tuesday 09 December 2008, Ross Walker wrote: > On Dec 8, 2008, at 6:51 PM, Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > >> Try setting the scheduler to 'deadline' and see if the queue sizes > >> shrink. > > > > I have googled this and having a bit of trouble figuring how to change > > it under CentOS 4

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-08 Thread Ross Walker
On Dec 8, 2008, at 6:51 PM, Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Device:rrqm/s wrqm/s r/s w/s rsec/s wsec/srkB/s >>> wkB/s >>> avgrq-sz avgqu-sz await svctm %util >>> sda 0.38 176.63 70.32 78.26 813.46 2044.82 406.73 >>> 1022.41 >>> 19.24 0.40 19.17 4

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-08 Thread Matt
>> Device:rrqm/s wrqm/s r/s w/s rsec/s wsec/srkB/swkB/s >> avgrq-sz avgqu-sz await svctm %util >> sda 0.38 176.63 70.32 78.26 813.46 2044.82 406.73 1022.41 >> 19.24 0.40 19.17 4.04 60.07 >> sda1 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.000.000.00 0.00

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-08 Thread Ross Walker
On Dec 8, 2008, at 4:55 PM, Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Cpu0 : 5.3% us, 4.0% sy, 0.0% ni, 81.5% id, 9.3% wa, 0.0% >>> hi, 0.0% si >>> Cpu1 : 11.3% us, 8.3% sy, 0.0% ni, 1.7% id, 78.1% wa, 0.7% >>> hi, 0.0% si >>> Mem: 8309188k total, 4761352k used, 3547836k free, 45

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-08 Thread Matt
>> Cpu0 : 5.3% us, 4.0% sy, 0.0% ni, 81.5% id, 9.3% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si >> Cpu1 : 11.3% us, 8.3% sy, 0.0% ni, 1.7% id, 78.1% wa, 0.7% hi, 0.0% si >> Mem: 8309188k total, 4761352k used, 3547836k free, 451464k buffers >> Swap: 2031608k total, 192k used, 2031416k free, 1564

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-08 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
Matt wrote: > Cpu0 : 5.3% us, 4.0% sy, 0.0% ni, 81.5% id, 9.3% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si > Cpu1 : 11.3% us, 8.3% sy, 0.0% ni, 1.7% id, 78.1% wa, 0.7% hi, 0.0% si > Mem: 8309188k total, 4761352k used, 3547836k free, 451464k buffers > Swap: 2031608k total, 192k used, 2031416k fre

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-08 Thread Matt
>> He should be able to replace the kernel via rpm -e and rpm -i >> >> That said, I doubt he'll actually see a benefit. >> PAE is slow. >> If you want to see a real performance-gain, install 5.2 x86-64. >> > You will only see a gain if the machine is swapping, otherwise more ram > through PAE could

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-08 Thread Morten Torstensen
John R Pierce wrote: > thats not at all an accurate description (other than the 64GB part) It was a simplified description of how PAE works. The point was that PAE work at the page table level and just remaps memory pages to fit within the virtual 32-bit/4GB address space for a 32-bit process. T

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-07 Thread Kevin Krieser
On Dec 7, 2008, at 1:37 PM, Morten Torstensen wrote: > Kevin Krieser wrote: > >> At least with regard to the upstream provider, on X86 the desktop >> version has a limit of 4GB of RAM, regardless of how much more memory >> you have. And they removed the hugemem version, so instead of up to >> 64

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-07 Thread John R Pierce
Morten Torstensen wrote: > With PAE you can access up to 64GB memory. It works much the same way as > XMS memory in DOS, where "high mem" is mapped to a low mem window. It is > just addresses that are mapped, there is no physical copying of memory > that you had with EMS memory. > thats not

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-07 Thread Morten Torstensen
Kevin Krieser wrote: > At least with regard to the upstream provider, on X86 the desktop > version has a limit of 4GB of RAM, regardless of how much more memory > you have. And they removed the hugemem version, so instead of up to > 64GB of RAM on 32 bit, you can only get to 16GB for server

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-07 Thread Scott Silva
on 12-5-2008 4:18 PM Rainer Duffner spake the following: > Am 06.12.2008 um 01:02 schrieb Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams: > >> On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 23:57 +, Michael Holmes wrote: >>> 2008/12/5 Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I have a server running Centos 4.7 32bit. Will moving from 4Gig of RAM

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-06 Thread Kevin Krieser
On Dec 6, 2008, at 10:44 AM, Ross Walker wrote: > > On Dec 5, 2008, at 7:18 PM, Rainer Duffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> >> Am 06.12.2008 um 01:02 schrieb Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams: >> >>> On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 23:57 +, Michael Holmes wrote: 2008/12/5 Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-06 Thread Ross Walker
On Dec 5, 2008, at 7:18 PM, Rainer Duffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Am 06.12.2008 um 01:02 schrieb Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams: > >> On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 23:57 +, Michael Holmes wrote: >>> 2008/12/5 Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I have a server running Centos 4.7 32bit. Will moving from

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-06 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
> >> 2008/12/5 Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >>> I have a server running Centos 4.7 32bit. Will moving from 4Gig of > >>> RAM to 8Gig do any good? Since its 32bit I assume it will only be > >>> able to address the first 4Gig not? > >> As long as you are using a SMP kernel you can use up to 64GB of

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-06 Thread Michael Holmes
2008/12/6 Rainer Duffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Am 06.12.2008 um 01:02 schrieb Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams: >> PAE, not SMP. Gah, my mistake, sorry. > He should be able to replace the kernel via rpm -e and rpm -i > That said, I doubt he'll actually see a benefit. > PAE is slow. > If you want to see a

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-05 Thread Rainer Duffner
Am 06.12.2008 um 01:02 schrieb Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams: > On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 23:57 +, Michael Holmes wrote: >> 2008/12/5 Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> I have a server running Centos 4.7 32bit. Will moving from 4Gig of >>> RAM to 8Gig do any good? Since its 32bit I assume it will only be >

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-05 Thread Matt
>> I have a server running Centos 4.7 32bit. Will moving from 4Gig of >> RAM to 8Gig do any good? Since its 32bit I assume it will only be >> able to address the first 4Gig not? > As long as you are using a SMP kernel you can use up to 64GB of RAM > (though each proccess can only address 4GB of

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-05 Thread Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 23:57 +, Michael Holmes wrote: > 2008/12/5 Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I have a server running Centos 4.7 32bit. Will moving from 4Gig of > > RAM to 8Gig do any good? Since its 32bit I assume it will only be > > able to address the first 4Gig not? > As long as you are

Re: [CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-05 Thread Michael Holmes
2008/12/5 Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I have a server running Centos 4.7 32bit. Will moving from 4Gig of > RAM to 8Gig do any good? Since its 32bit I assume it will only be > able to address the first 4Gig not? As long as you are using a SMP kernel you can use up to 64GB of RAM (though each procc

[CentOS] Adding RAM

2008-12-05 Thread Matt
I have a server running Centos 4.7 32bit. Will moving from 4Gig of RAM to 8Gig do any good? Since its 32bit I assume it will only be able to address the first 4Gig not? When I installed CentOS I did not do anything special to enable using more then 4Gig if thats required. Exim, spamassassin and