Re: [CentOS] ssh stalls/hangs instead of exiting

2021-04-13 Thread Chris Schanzle via CentOS
On 4/13/21 11:36 PM, Chris Schanzle via CentOS wrote: > On 4/13/21 5:00 PM, Frank Cox wrote: >> On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 22:29:26 +0200 >> Simon Matter wrote: >> >>> You could try running strace on the hanging process so see what it's doing. >> [frankcox@mutt temp]$ rsync -avv ../temp/ jeff:temp >>

Re: [CentOS] rsync over ssh stalls after completing the job

2021-04-13 Thread Chris Schanzle via CentOS
On 4/13/21 5:00 PM, Frank Cox wrote: > On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 22:29:26 +0200 > Simon Matter wrote: > >> You could try running strace on the hanging process so see what it's doing. > [frankcox@mutt temp]$ rsync -avv ../temp/ jeff:temp > opening connection using: ssh jeff rsync --server

Re: [CentOS] rsync over ssh stalls after completing the job

2021-04-13 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 23:36:48 -0400 Chris Schanzle via CentOS wrote: > I discovered if I set ForwardX11=no (either on ssh command line or in > ~/.ssh/config) the hang does not happen.  But why does that matter?  No > updates to openssh. Far out! That's the solution! Well, not really a solution

Re: [CentOS] Proxmox Backup Server equivalent for the RHEL/CentOS world ?

2021-04-13 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 at 08:24, Simon Matter wrote: > > On 13.04.21 12:33, Simon Matter wrote: > >>> Once upon a time, Nicolas Kovacs said: > Both PVE and PBS are based on Debian, and now I wonder if RHEL-based > systems > have something similar to offer. > >>> > >>> I believe Red

Re: [CentOS] How to organize your VMs

2021-04-13 Thread Brian (bex) Exelbierd
On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 6:15 AM Steven Tardy wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 12:13 PM Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > > > I'd be curious to have your input, since I'm fairly new to this sort of > > approach. > > > > This is the whole pets VS cattle choice. > > IMO each VM should have a singular

Re: [CentOS] Proxmox Backup Server equivalent for the RHEL/CentOS world ?

2021-04-13 Thread Leon Fauster via CentOS
On 13.04.21 12:33, Simon Matter wrote: Once upon a time, Nicolas Kovacs said: Both PVE and PBS are based on Debian, and now I wonder if RHEL-based systems have something similar to offer. I believe Red Hat Virtualization, and its open upstream oVirt, are comparable to Proxmox. I have used

Re: [CentOS] How to organize your VMs

2021-04-13 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 1:15 AM -0400 Steven Tardy wrote: IMO each VM should have a singular use/purpose/app. VMs are effectively free. And also prevents unintended negative upgrade interactions. Think through this to the logical end as each process is it's own

Re: [CentOS] How to organize your VMs

2021-04-13 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 4/13/21 11:48 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: On 4/10/21 6:13 PM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: I'd be curious to have your input, since I'm fairly new to this sort of approach. I would only separate things that for some reasons are "dirty", e.g. require non packaged installation. All the rest

Re: [CentOS] How to organize your VMs

2021-04-13 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 4/10/21 6:13 PM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: I'd be curious to have your input, since I'm fairly new to this sort of approach. I would only separate things that for some reasons are "dirty", e.g. require non packaged installation. All the rest (like bind, postfix, dovecot) can happily live in

Re: [CentOS] rsync over ssh stalls after completing the job

2021-04-13 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 12:43:16 -0500 Christopher Wensink wrote: > Does it behave any differently when adding a & at the end of the command > when running it manually, or running in a screen session? Nope. I get the same stall both ways. Running it in a screen session looks exactly like what I

[CentOS] rsync over ssh stalls after completing the job

2021-04-13 Thread Frank Cox
Here's a weird one. I have two Centos 8 machines that use rsync-over-ssh to back up files between each other. (Each machine acts as a backup machine for the other one.) There's are nightly cronjobs that do the backing up, the commands look like this: rsync -av --delete /home/mydirectory

Re: [CentOS] rsync over ssh stalls after completing the job

2021-04-13 Thread Christopher Wensink
Does it behave any differently when adding a & at the end of the command when running it manually, or running in a screen session? Chris On 4/13/2021 11:45 AM, Frank Cox wrote: Here's a weird one. I have two Centos 8 machines that use rsync-over-ssh to back up files between each other.

Re: [CentOS] rsync over ssh stalls after completing the job

2021-04-13 Thread Christopher Wensink
Try using --whole-file / -W On 4/13/2021 12:52 PM, Frank Cox wrote: On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 12:43:16 -0500 Christopher Wensink wrote: Does it behave any differently when adding a & at the end of the command when running it manually, or running in a screen session? Nope. I get the same stall

Re: [CentOS] rsync over ssh stalls after completing the job

2021-04-13 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 12:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Paul Heinlein wrote: > Is there any chance that your shell is configured to emit anything to > stderr or stdout when you logout of jeff? It's fairly rare, but I've > seen logout messages mess up rsync before. I don't think so. The only change from the

Re: [CentOS] How to organize your VMs

2021-04-13 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 13/04/2021 à 18:48, Roberto Ragusa a écrit : > Splitting things too much will increase the maintenance effort, every stupid > detail > like new kernel installation, clock syncing, log rotation, security patching, > etc. > gets duplicated. Not to mention the need to now maintain a network

Re: [CentOS] rsync over ssh stalls after completing the job

2021-04-13 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 22:29:26 +0200 Simon Matter wrote: > You could try running strace on the hanging process so see what it's doing. [frankcox@mutt temp]$ rsync -avv ../temp/ jeff:temp opening connection using: ssh jeff rsync --server -vvlogDtpre.iLsfxC . temp (7 args) sending incremental file

Re: [CentOS] rsync over ssh stalls after completing the job

2021-04-13 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 13:07:19 -0500 Christopher Wensink wrote: > Try using --whole-file / -W Using that command, it says "delta-transmission disabled for local transfer or --whole-file ", but it still stalls at the end so there's no change. Since it works fine transferring files over nfs, it

Re: [CentOS] rsync over ssh stalls after completing the job

2021-04-13 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Tue, 13 Apr 2021, Frank Cox wrote: Here's a weird one. I have two Centos 8 machines that use rsync-over-ssh to back up files between each other. (Each machine acts as a backup machine for the other one.) There's are nightly cronjobs that do the backing up, the commands look like this:

Re: [CentOS] rsync over ssh stalls after completing the job

2021-04-13 Thread Simon Matter
> On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 12:09:42 -0700 (PDT) > Paul Heinlein wrote: > >> Is there any chance that your shell is configured to emit anything to >> stderr or stdout when you logout of jeff? It's fairly rare, but I've >> seen logout messages mess up rsync before. > > I don't think so. The only change

Re: [CentOS] Proxmox Backup Server equivalent for the RHEL/CentOS world ?

2021-04-13 Thread Simon Matter
> On 13.04.21 12:33, Simon Matter wrote: >>> Once upon a time, Nicolas Kovacs said: Both PVE and PBS are based on Debian, and now I wonder if RHEL-based systems have something similar to offer. >>> >>> I believe Red Hat Virtualization, and its open upstream oVirt, are >>>

Re: [CentOS] Proxmox Backup Server equivalent for the RHEL/CentOS world ?

2021-04-13 Thread Simon Matter
> Once upon a time, Nicolas Kovacs said: >> Both PVE and PBS are based on Debian, and now I wonder if RHEL-based >> systems >> have something similar to offer. > > I believe Red Hat Virtualization, and its open upstream oVirt, are > comparable to Proxmox. I have used oVirt for a number of years.

Re: [CentOS] Proxmox Backup Server equivalent for the RHEL/CentOS world ?

2021-04-13 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Simon Matter said: > I haven't followed oVirt/RHV but I'm wondering how free it is? Is it as > "free" as RHEL or as CentOS/Alma/Rocky/Navy/Oracle Linux? oVirt is the upstream for RHV. Development takes place in oVirt, but (to me anyway) like Fedora, that doesn't mean it is an

[CentOS-docs] Publishing content to docs.centos.org

2021-04-13 Thread Davide Cavalca via CentOS-docs
Hello! What's the source of truth for https://docs.centos.org/en-US/docs/ ? There's an "Edit this page" button on the top right, but it points to a file:// URL.  As part of the Hyperscale SIG, there's a bunch of user-facing documentation we'd like to eventually write and publish, and that would