On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 11:50 AM Amy Marrich wrote:
> I'd like to request access to
> https://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/Cloud for the following
> people:
>
> amymarrich
> jpena
> AlfredoMoralejo
> yatinkarel
>
> Thanks,
>
> Amy
>
> *Amy Marrich*
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> She/Her/Hers
>
> Principal
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 05:41:11PM -0600, John R. Dennison wrote:
> I am not sure that speaking in absolutes does anyone any good.
Sure. Anything can happen, but these particular things are highly unlikely,
and not just arbitrarily. If either of them were to happen, there would
absolutely (sorry,
On January 22, 2021 5:06:41 PM CST, Matthew Miller wrote:
>On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 08:35:44PM +, Jamie Burchell wrote:
>> Can RH put a stop to projects like Rocky Linux?
>
>Yes, in two possible ways.
>
>First, Red Hat could stop making RHEL. The amount of work that goes
>into
>this is
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 06:06:41PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
>
I am not sure that speaking in absolutes does anyone any good.
John
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On 1/22/2021 7:24 AM, mark wrote:
Well, y'know, right now is sorta like after RH 9, when suddenly there
was this RHEL, and IIRC, you could get it for free for home/small use,
then suddenly it was "nope, gotta pay".
Been here before, not happy.
mark
i think Fedora linux is a
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 08:35:44PM +, Jamie Burchell wrote:
> Can RH put a stop to projects like Rocky Linux?
Yes, in two possible ways.
First, Red Hat could stop making RHEL. The amount of work that goes into
this is _quite_ significant, particularly in terms of the long-term
stability that
On 22/01/2021 21:08, Frank Cox wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 20:51:09 +
Jamie Burchell wrote:
So RH could make it difficult for downstream projects such a Rocky Linux.
I don't imagine Redhat will go out of their way to make it easy for Rocky Linux.
But there's a point beyond which they
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 20:51:09 +
Jamie Burchell wrote:
> So RH could make it difficult for downstream projects such a Rocky Linux.
I don't imagine Redhat will go out of their way to make it easy for Rocky Linux.
But there's a point beyond which they can't go without contravening the GPL
So RH could make it difficult for downstream projects such a Rocky Linux.
> On 22 Jan 2021, at 20:46, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
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>
>
> On 1/22/21 2:39 PM, Marc Balmer via CentOS wrote:
Am 22.01.2021 um 21:36 schrieb Jamie Burchell :
>>>
>>> Can RH put a stop to projects like Rocky
On 1/22/21 2:39 PM, Marc Balmer via CentOS wrote:
Am 22.01.2021 um 21:36 schrieb Jamie Burchell :
Can RH put a stop to projects like Rocky Linux?
No.
Theoretically, no. I'm confident solid company will always comply with
GNU license.
But in practice one can change the way source
Good. At least I can consider moving to that without fear of RH pulling the
plug!
> On 22 Jan 2021, at 20:39, Marc Balmer via CentOS wrote:
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>
>
>> Am 22.01.2021 um 21:36 schrieb Jamie Burchell :
>>
>> Can RH put a stop to projects like Rocky Linux?
>
> No.
>
>>
> On 22 Jan 2021,
> Am 22.01.2021 um 21:36 schrieb Jamie Burchell :
>
> Can RH put a stop to projects like Rocky Linux?
No.
>
>>> On 22 Jan 2021, at 18:04, Matthew Miller wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 07:25:04AM -0500, Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS
>>> wrote:
>>> I wonder whether RH plan to
Can RH put a stop to projects like Rocky Linux?
> On 22 Jan 2021, at 18:04, Matthew Miller wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 07:25:04AM -0500, Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS
> wrote:
>> I wonder whether RH plan to fight back FUD they've brought upon by their
>> December announcement.
>
> I
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 07:25:04AM -0500, Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS wrote:
> I wonder whether RH plan to fight back FUD they've brought upon by their
> December announcement.
I mean really the only thing we can do is live up to the given plan with
Stream and RHEL options, which as far
On 1/22/21 11:42 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
Le 22/01/2021 à 18:04, Valeri Galtsev a écrit :
I tried SUSE maybe 2-3 years later than you (around 2003). The first thing I
disliked was: they have yast on top of standard configurations. First of
all, it is quite unpleasant to deal with: infinitely
Le 22/01/2021 à 18:04, Valeri Galtsev a écrit :
> I tried SUSE maybe 2-3 years later than you (around 2003). The first thing I
> disliked was: they have yast on top of standard configurations. First of
> all, it is quite unpleasant to deal with: infinitely long single file
> containing all
On 1/22/21 9:15 AM, Simon Matter wrote:
Le 21/01/2021 à 23:30, Scott Robbins a écrit :
People pull up all sorts of technical reasons to justify
what is, in the end, an emotional decision.
There is, of course, the possibility to go beyond that. For example, I am
not
exactly fond of Oracle as
> On Jan 22, 2021, at 5:12 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
>
> On 1/22/21 9:29 AM, Marc Balmer via CentOS wrote:
>>> Hence it is as good as dead in my mind when looking into the future, I
>>> am looking for future distro of choice.
>>
>> A little mentioned choice would be openSUSE, which is
On 1/22/21 1:46 PM, Frank Cox wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 16:15:28 +0100
Simon Matter wrote:
OL specific stuff like UEK
Here might be a good place to ask a question that I haven't really found a
definitive answer to.
What, exactly, is the Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel?
RHEL/Centos 8 has
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 16:15:28 +0100
Simon Matter wrote:
> OL specific stuff like UEK
Here might be a good place to ask a question that I haven't really found a
definitive answer to.
What, exactly, is the Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel?
RHEL/Centos 8 has kernel version 4.18. The current Fedora
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 23:33:56 +
lejeczek via CentOS wrote:
> Hi guys.
>
> Hoping some net experts my stumble upon this message, I have
> an IPoIB direct host to host connection and:
...
> > $ iperf3 -c 10.5.5.97
> [ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr
> [ 5]
Le 22/01/2021 à 16:16, Lamar Owen a écrit :
> For my uses and purposes, Fedora's six month cycle is too fast (I've been on
> that roller coaster before, no desire to go back to it). CentOS Stream's
> continuous release cycle is too fast, especially in the kernel ABI
> department.
> I believe
On 1/22/21 9:10 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 at 08:32, Gionatan Danti wrote:
Il 2021-01-22 13:43 Nikolaos Milas ha scritto:
I think we can expect Rocky Linux to provide a real solution to CentOS
future. We shall know very soon, so let's just wait for a short while.
On 1/21/21 5:50 PM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
Debian has an average of two years[*] per support. Oracle has ten like
upstream RHEL. Choice is pretty clear to me. [*] one year after
subsequent release, so an average of one to three years depending on
installation date
So, I want to address the
> Le 21/01/2021 à 23:30, Scott Robbins a écrit :
>> People pull up all sorts of technical reasons to justify
>> what is, in the end, an emotional decision.
>
> There is, of course, the possibility to go beyond that. For example, I am
> not
> exactly fond of Oracle as a company, for reasons you
On 1/22/21 9:10 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
My guess is that no one wants to go to a new OS alone. They want to go
with all their mailing list buddies but they also want to make a
STATEMENT to stick it in the eye of Red Hat for doing this. Going to a
staid and quiet existing OS doesn't
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 at 08:32, Gionatan Danti wrote:
> Il 2021-01-22 13:43 Nikolaos Milas ha scritto:
> > I think we can expect Rocky Linux to provide a real solution to CentOS
> > future. We shall know very soon, so let's just wait for a short while.
>
> Hi, there are any specific reasons to not
> On Jan 22, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Nikolaos Milas wrote:
>
> On 22/1/2021 2:25 μ.μ., Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS wrote:
>
>> Also, I can still expect they will again change their mind close to
>> 2021's end. In short, I have hard time trusting RH in such a situation.
>
Then flee from RedHat
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 12:39:08PM +, J Martin Rushton via CentOS wrote:
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>
> On 22/01/2021 12:25, Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS wrote:
>
>
> > JMNSHO.
Just My Not So Humble Opinion.
I wonder if it's just because I'm old, but I do get tired of acronyms,
especially when people actually
Le 21/01/2021 à 23:30, Scott Robbins a écrit :
> People pull up all sorts of technical reasons to justify
> what is, in the end, an emotional decision.
There is, of course, the possibility to go beyond that. For example, I am not
exactly fond of Oracle as a company, for reasons you probably know
Il 2021-01-22 13:43 Nikolaos Milas ha scritto:
I think we can expect Rocky Linux to provide a real solution to CentOS
future. We shall know very soon, so let's just wait for a short while.
Hi, there are any specific reasons to not use Spingdale Linux?
As far I know, it already ships a RHEL 8.3
On 22/1/2021 2:25 μ.μ., Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS wrote:
Also, I can still expect they will again change their mind close to
2021's end. In short, I have hard time trusting RH in such a situation.
That's exactly how I feel too. I don't trust them.
I think we can expect Rocky Linux to
On 22/01/2021 12:25, Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS wrote:
JMNSHO.
eh?
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On 21.01.2021 22:46, Victor Pereira wrote:
> I see that this is as an impulse for Fedora so that we as users do not
> leave RedHat after the news ... even so I still think how good it is for
> the linux community this whole situation makes us a good shakeup.
> Cheers,
I wonder whether RH plan to
On 1/22/21 9:29 AM, Marc Balmer via CentOS wrote:
>> Hence it is as good as dead in my mind when looking into the future, I
>> am looking for future distro of choice.
>
> A little mentioned choice would be openSUSE, which is direction I am taking.
I do not like system where configuration app can
On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 05:30:33PM -0500, Scott Robbins wrote:
Like Valeri, I have a fondness for FreeBSD. Regardless, I think Nicolas is
correct. I remember reading a post in an old usenet (I think) discussion of
mutt vs. pine (before it became alpine) where someone said words to the
> Am 22.01.2021 um 08:40 schrieb Ljubomir Ljubojevic :
>
> On 1/21/21 11:40 PM, John R. Dennison wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 11:36:44PM +0100, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
>>> On 1/21/21 8:53 PM, Alfredo Perez wrote:
Is this good news for the "Centos" family?
>>>
>>> There is
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