[CentOS] Upstream and downstream (was Re: C7, systemd, say what?!)

On 6/7/2017 12:53 PM, Bruce Ferrell wrote: On 6/7/17 12:42 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 06/07/2017 02:02 PM, John R Pierce wrote: On 6/7/2017 11:28 AM, Always Learning wrote: In the case of CentOS-7 .. you don't need to create a whole new distro, you can just petition the CentOS Project Board

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

On 6/5/2017 7:21 AM, Warren Young wrote: On Jun 3, 2017, at 4:13 AM, hw wrote: Perl is pretty fast, and most of the work is being done by the database, so I´m not sure how using an alternative to CGI could make things go faster. There are many reasons CGI is relatively slow.

Re: [CentOS] How to encourage maintainers to update their software

On 10/27/2017 2:54 PM, Frank Cox wrote: I do that with a number of packages that are either newer or simply not available in the various Centos repos. In many cases it's as easy as downloading a new tar source file and adding it to the existing source rpm, doing three seconds of editing on

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

On 10/16/2018 10:27 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 09:25:15AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: Also, it is likely that at some point systemd-free Linux distribution(s) may fade away. There was already a move away from SysV init before systemd was introduced, heck

[CentOS] Upstream and downstream (was Re: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?)

On 10/18/2018 4:41 PM, Warren Young wrote: On Oct 18, 2018, at 9:41 AM, mark wrote: people are tired of screaming and yelling about systemd, because we've had years now of the response being "tough, it's the Wave of the Future" We covered that back when RHEL 7 was still in beta: the time is

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

On 10/18/2018 7:33 PM, Young, Gregory wrote: *** This response is my personal opinion and may not reflect that of my employer. *** *snip* If CentOS 8 were to switch back from systemd, I think you would be able to see the explosions from Alpha Centauri as all the developers out there lost

Re: [CentOS] Upstream and downstream (was Re: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?)

On 10/20/2018 6:23 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 05:52:12PM -0700, Japheth Cleaver wrote: The wider EL community is trapped between a rock and a hard place somewhat. If you try to direct Fedora into the needs of EL users, you stand a good chance of getting told to pound

Re: [CentOS] Upstream and downstream (was Re: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?)

On 10/19/2018 9:10 PM, Brendan Conoboy wrote: On Fri Oct 19 00:52:12 UTC 2018 Japheth Cleaver wrote: > This brings to mind a video I was pointed to not long ago of Brendan > Conoboy's talk at a Dojo recently: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQsUdLPJW20 Hey, that's me!  Hi.  By

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

On 10/19/2018 5:09 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote: On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 01:07:46PM +0200, Simon Matter wrote: That's really an important point, because those who started using Linux with Linux/systemd will be bound to Linux/systemd with their knowledge, switching to a *BSD or other Unix will be

Re: [CentOS] Would RHEL, CentOS, and Fedora Remain Open Source/Free Software After IBM Buys Red Hat for $34 Billion?

On 10/30/2018 9:12 PM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: Why do you say so? On 10/31/18 12:44 AM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: Good morning from Singapore, This is of paramount importance. Would Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), CentOS, and Fedora remain open source/free

Re: [CentOS] Fedora Server - as an alternative ?

On 12/20/2018 5:18 AM, Alice Wonder wrote: On 12/20/18 5:11 AM, lejeczek via CentOS wrote: hi guys I wonder if any Centosian here have done something different than only contemplated using Fedora Server, actually worked on it in test/production envs. If here are some folks who have done it

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 network-scripts

On 10/4/2019 8:17 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: On 10/4/19 10:40 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: My impression is younger generation doesn't value rules that programmers were following 2-3 decades ago. One of which is: Do not make any changes [in the program] unless they are absolutely necessary. I have

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Stream from bottom works, what is this?

On 12/9/2020 10:18 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 04:03:42PM +, Laack, Andrea P wrote: The companies that pay for RHEL licenses for production and use CentOS for test will be left with a large problem. They will either need to purchase double the number of RHEL licenses

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

On 12/17/2020 9:29 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: On 12/13/20 3:25 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 21:05:42 +0100 Rainer Duffner wrote: It’s also not often the case that you can split this kind of work into a thousand work-packages and have everybody just work 1/2 hour a day on it. not

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Stream from bottom works, what is this?

On 12/10/2020 9:08 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 11:50:00AM -0500, m...@tdiehl.org wrote: So if I understand this correctly, centos8 + will basically be a rolling release and we will never know what we are really running. Is this correct? No, this is not the case. There

Re: [CentOS] Moving to CentOS 8 Stream

On 12/11/2020 8:12 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 07:13:19AM -0700, James Szinger wrote: Except that there are no container images available for Stream. :( There certainly will be. Also for container use cases, you might want to consider UBI, which is literal RHEL binaries,

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-7-x86_64-dvd-2009.iso is too big for DVD blanks

On 3/18/2021 6:36 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: On 3/18/21 1:24 AM, John R. Dennison wrote: It's not realistic to expect server-class machines not to be able to boot from dual-layer or USB media in 2021. There are environments where USB or other writeable media are not allowed on premises. While all