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Re: [ceph-users] RGW how to delete orphans

2019-08-13 Thread Andrei Mikhailovsky

Hello

I was hoping to follow up on this email and if Florian manage to get to the 
bottom of this.

I have a case where I believe my RGW bucket is using too much space. For me, 
the ceph df command shows over 16TB usage, whereas the bucket stats shows the 
total of about 6TB. So, It seems that the 10TB is wasted somewhere and I would 
like to find out how to trim this.

I am running "ceph version 13.2.6 (7b695f835b03642f85998b2ae7b6dd093d9fbce4) 
mimic (stable)" on all cluster nodes (server and client side). I have the total 
of 4 osd servers with 48 osds, including a combination of SSD and SAS drives 
for different pools.

I have started "radosgw-admin orphans find --pool=.rgw.buckets --job-id=find1 
--num-shards=64 --yes-i-really-mean-it" command about 2 weeks ago and the only 
output I can see from it is similar to this:

storing 20 entries at orphan.scan.find1.linked.50
storing 28 entries at orphan.scan.find1.linked.16

The command is still running and I can see about 5K IOPs increase on the 
cluster's throughput since the command started. However, I can't seem to find 
any indication on the progress. Nor do I see an increase in the RGW pool usage.

Anyone can suggest on the next steps please?

Cheers

Andrei

- Original Message -
> From: "Florian Engelmann" 
> To: "Andreas Calminder" , "Christian Wuerdig" 
> 
> Cc: "ceph-users" 
> Sent: Friday, 26 October, 2018 11:28:19
> Subject: Re: [ceph-users] RGW how to delete orphans

> Hi,
> 
> we've got the same problem here. Our 12.2.5 RadosGWs crashed
> (unrecognised by us) about 30.000 times with ongoing multipart uploads.
> After a couple of days we ended up with:
> 
> xx-1.rgw.buckets.data   6  N/A   N/A
> 116TiB 87.22   17.1TiB 36264870 36.26M 3.63GiB
> 148MiB   194TiB
> 
> 116TB data (194TB raw) while only:
> 
> for i in $(radosgw-admin bucket list | jq -r '.[]'); do  radosgw-admin
> bucket stats --bucket=$i | jq '.usage | ."rgw.main" | .size_kb' ; done |
> awk '{ SUM += $1} END { print SUM/1024/1024/1024 }'
> 
> 46.0962
> 
> 116 - 46 = 70TB
> 
> So 70TB of objects are orphans, right?
> 
> And there are 36.264.870 objects in our rgw.buckets.data pool.
> 
> So we started:
> 
> radosgw-admin orphans list-jobs --extra-info
> [
> {
> "orphan_search_state": {
> "info": {
> "orphan_search_info": {
> "job_name": "check-orph",
> "pool": "zh-1.rgw.buckets.data",
> "num_shards": 64,
> "start_time": "2018-10-10 09:01:14.746436Z"
> }
> },
> "stage": {
> "orphan_search_stage": {
> "search_stage": "iterate_bucket_index",
> "shard": 0,
> "marker": ""
> }
> }
> }
> }
> ]
> 
> writing stdout to: orphans.txt
> 
> I am not sure about how to interpret the output but:
> 
> cat orphans.txt | awk '/^storing / { SUM += $2} END { print SUM }'
> 2145042765
> 
> So how to interpret those output lines:
> ...
> storing 16 entries at orphan.scan.check-orph.linked.62
> storing 19 entries at orphan.scan.check-orph.linked.63
> storing 13 entries at orphan.scan.check-orph.linked.0
> storing 13 entries at orphan.scan.check-orph.linked.1
> ...
> 
> Is it like
> 
> "I am storing 16 'healthy' object 'names' to the shard
> orphan.scan.check-orph.linked.62"
> 
> Is it objects? What is meant by "entries"? Where are those "shards"? Are
> they files or objects in a pool? How to know about the progress of
> "orphans find"? Is the job still doing the right thing? Time estimated
> to run on SATA disks with 194TB RAW?
> 
> The orphan find command stored already 2.145.042.765 (more than 2
> billion) "entries"... while there are "only" 36 million objects...
> 
> Is the process still healthy and doing the right thing?
> 
> All the best,
> Florian
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Am 10/3/17 um 10:48 AM schrieb Andreas Calminder:
>> The output, to stdout, is something like leaked: $objname. Am I supposed
>> to pipe it to a log, grep for leaked: and pipe it to rados delete? Or am
>> I supposed to dig around in the log pool to try and find the objects
>> there? The information available is quite vague. Maybe Yehuda can shed
>> some light on this issue?
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> /Andre

Re: [ceph-users] RGW how to delete orphans

2018-10-26 Thread Florian Engelmann

Hi,

we've got the same problem here. Our 12.2.5 RadosGWs crashed 
(unrecognised by us) about 30.000 times with ongoing multipart uploads. 
After a couple of days we ended up with:

xx-1.rgw.buckets.data   6  N/A   N/A 
116TiB 87.22   17.1TiB 36264870 36.26M 3.63GiB 
148MiB   194TiB

116TB data (194TB raw) while only:

for i in $(radosgw-admin bucket list | jq -r '.[]'); do  radosgw-admin 
bucket stats --bucket=$i | jq '.usage | ."rgw.main" | .size_kb' ; done | 
awk '{ SUM += $1} END { print SUM/1024/1024/1024 }'

46.0962

116 - 46 = 70TB

So 70TB of objects are orphans, right?

And there are 36.264.870 objects in our rgw.buckets.data pool.

So we started:

radosgw-admin orphans list-jobs --extra-info
[
{
"orphan_search_state": {
"info": {
"orphan_search_info": {
"job_name": "check-orph",
"pool": "zh-1.rgw.buckets.data",
"num_shards": 64,
"start_time": "2018-10-10 09:01:14.746436Z"
}
},
"stage": {
"orphan_search_stage": {
"search_stage": "iterate_bucket_index",
"shard": 0,
"marker": ""
}
}
}
}
]

writing stdout to: orphans.txt

I am not sure about how to interpret the output but:

cat orphans.txt | awk '/^storing / { SUM += $2} END { print SUM }'
2145042765

So how to interpret those output lines:
...
storing 16 entries at orphan.scan.check-orph.linked.62
storing 19 entries at orphan.scan.check-orph.linked.63
storing 13 entries at orphan.scan.check-orph.linked.0
storing 13 entries at orphan.scan.check-orph.linked.1
...

Is it like

"I am storing 16 'healthy' object 'names' to the shard 
orphan.scan.check-orph.linked.62"

Is it objects? What is meant by "entries"? Where are those "shards"? Are 
they files or objects in a pool? How to know about the progress of 
"orphans find"? Is the job still doing the right thing? Time estimated 
to run on SATA disks with 194TB RAW?

The orphan find command stored already 2.145.042.765 (more than 2 
billion) "entries"... while there are "only" 36 million objects...

Is the process still healthy and doing the right thing?

All the best,
Florian

Am 10/3/17 um 10:48 AM schrieb Andreas Calminder:
The output, to stdout, is something like leaked: $objname. Am I supposed 
to pipe it to a log, grep for leaked: and pipe it to rados delete? Or am 
I supposed to dig around in the log pool to try and find the objects 
there? The information available is quite vague. Maybe Yehuda can shed 
some light on this issue?

Best regards,
/Andreas

On 3 Oct 2017 06:25, "Christian Wuerdig" > wrote:

yes, at least that's how I'd interpret the information given in this
thread:

http://lists.ceph.com/pipermail/ceph-users-ceph.com/2017-February/016521.html

On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 1:11 AM, Webert de Souza Lima
mailto:webert.b...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 > Hey Christian,
 >
 >> On 29 Sep 2017 12:32 a.m., "Christian Wuerdig"
 >> mailto:christian.wuer...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 >>>
 >>> I'm pretty sure the orphan find command does exactly just that -
 >>> finding orphans. I remember some emails on the dev list where
Yehuda
 >>> said he wasn't 100% comfortable of automating the delete just yet.
 >>> So the purpose is to run the orphan find tool and then delete the
 >>> orphaned objects once you're happy that they all are actually
 >>> orphaned.
 >>>
 >
 > so what you mean is that one should manually remove the result listed
 > objects that are output?
 >
 >
 > Regards,
 >
 > Webert Lima
 > DevOps Engineer at MAV Tecnologia
 > Belo Horizonte - Brasil
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Re: [ceph-users] RGW how to delete orphans

2017-10-03 Thread Andreas Calminder

The output, to stdout, is something like leaked: $objname. Am I supposed to
pipe it to a log, grep for leaked: and pipe it to rados delete? Or am I
supposed to dig around in the log pool to try and find the objects there?
The information available is quite vague. Maybe Yehuda can shed some light
on this issue?

Best regards,
/Andreas

On 3 Oct 2017 06:25, "Christian Wuerdig" 
wrote:

> yes, at least that's how I'd interpret the information given in this
> thread: http://lists.ceph.com/pipermail/ceph-users-ceph.com/2017-
> February/016521.html
>
> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 1:11 AM, Webert de Souza Lima
>  wrote:
> > Hey Christian,
> >
> >> On 29 Sep 2017 12:32 a.m., "Christian Wuerdig"
> >>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I'm pretty sure the orphan find command does exactly just that -
> >>> finding orphans. I remember some emails on the dev list where Yehuda
> >>> said he wasn't 100% comfortable of automating the delete just yet.
> >>> So the purpose is to run the orphan find tool and then delete the
> >>> orphaned objects once you're happy that they all are actually
> >>> orphaned.
> >>>
> >
> > so what you mean is that one should manually remove the result listed
> > objects that are output?
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Webert Lima
> > DevOps Engineer at MAV Tecnologia
> > Belo Horizonte - Brasil
> >
> >
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Re: [ceph-users] RGW how to delete orphans

2017-10-02 Thread Christian Wuerdig

yes, at least that's how I'd interpret the information given in this
thread: 
http://lists.ceph.com/pipermail/ceph-users-ceph.com/2017-February/016521.html

On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 1:11 AM, Webert de Souza Lima
 wrote:
> Hey Christian,
>
>> On 29 Sep 2017 12:32 a.m., "Christian Wuerdig"
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm pretty sure the orphan find command does exactly just that -
>>> finding orphans. I remember some emails on the dev list where Yehuda
>>> said he wasn't 100% comfortable of automating the delete just yet.
>>> So the purpose is to run the orphan find tool and then delete the
>>> orphaned objects once you're happy that they all are actually
>>> orphaned.
>>>
>
> so what you mean is that one should manually remove the result listed
> objects that are output?
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Webert Lima
> DevOps Engineer at MAV Tecnologia
> Belo Horizonte - Brasil
>
>
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Re: [ceph-users] RGW how to delete orphans

2017-09-29 Thread Andreas Calminder

Ok, thanks! So I'll wait a few days for the command to complete and see
what kind to of output it produces then.

Regards,
Andreas

On 29 Sep 2017 12:32 a.m., "Christian Wuerdig" 
wrote:

> I'm pretty sure the orphan find command does exactly just that -
> finding orphans. I remember some emails on the dev list where Yehuda
> said he wasn't 100% comfortable of automating the delete just yet.
> So the purpose is to run the orphan find tool and then delete the
> orphaned objects once you're happy that they all are actually
> orphaned.
>
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 7:46 AM, Webert de Souza Lima
>  wrote:
> > When I had to use that I just took for granted that it worked, so I can't
> > really tell you if that's just it.
> >
> > :|
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Webert Lima
> > DevOps Engineer at MAV Tecnologia
> > Belo Horizonte - Brasil
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Andreas Calminder
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >> Yes I'm able to run these commands, however it is unclear both in man
> file
> >> and the docs what's supposed to happen with the orphans, will they be
> >> deleted once I run finish? Or will that just throw away the job? What
> will
> >> orphans find actually produce? At the moment it just outputs a lot of
> text
> >> saying something like putting $num in orphans.$jobid.$shardnum and
> listing
> >> objects that are not orphans?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Andreas
> >>
> >> On 28 Sep 2017 15:10, "Webert de Souza Lima" 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> not an expert here but I think the answer is something like:
> >>
> >> radosgw-admin orphans find --pool=_DATA_POOL_ --job-id=_JOB_ID_
> >> radosgw-admin orphans finish --job-id=_JOB_ID_
> >>
> >> _JOB_ID_ being anything.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Webert Lima
> >> DevOps Engineer at MAV Tecnologia
> >> Belo Horizonte - Brasil
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Andreas Calminder
> >>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello,
> >>> running Jewel on some nodes with rados gateway I've managed to get a
> >>> lot of leaked multipart objects, most of them belonging to buckets
> >>> that do not even exist anymore. We estimated these objects to occupy
> >>> somewhere around 60TB, which would be great to reclaim. Question is
> >>> how, since trying to find them one by one and perform some kind of
> >>> sanity check if they're in use or not will take forever.
> >>>
> >>> The radosgw-admin orphans find command sounds like something I could
> >>> use, but it's not clear if the command also removes the orphans? If
> >>> not, what does it do? Can I use it to help me removing my orphan
> >>> objects?
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Andreas
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Re: [ceph-users] RGW how to delete orphans

2017-09-28 Thread Christian Wuerdig

I'm pretty sure the orphan find command does exactly just that -
finding orphans. I remember some emails on the dev list where Yehuda
said he wasn't 100% comfortable of automating the delete just yet.
So the purpose is to run the orphan find tool and then delete the
orphaned objects once you're happy that they all are actually
orphaned.

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 7:46 AM, Webert de Souza Lima
 wrote:
> When I had to use that I just took for granted that it worked, so I can't
> really tell you if that's just it.
>
> :|
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Webert Lima
> DevOps Engineer at MAV Tecnologia
> Belo Horizonte - Brasil
>
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Andreas Calminder
>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> Yes I'm able to run these commands, however it is unclear both in man file
>> and the docs what's supposed to happen with the orphans, will they be
>> deleted once I run finish? Or will that just throw away the job? What will
>> orphans find actually produce? At the moment it just outputs a lot of text
>> saying something like putting $num in orphans.$jobid.$shardnum and listing
>> objects that are not orphans?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Andreas
>>
>> On 28 Sep 2017 15:10, "Webert de Souza Lima" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> not an expert here but I think the answer is something like:
>>
>> radosgw-admin orphans find --pool=_DATA_POOL_ --job-id=_JOB_ID_
>> radosgw-admin orphans finish --job-id=_JOB_ID_
>>
>> _JOB_ID_ being anything.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Webert Lima
>> DevOps Engineer at MAV Tecnologia
>> Belo Horizonte - Brasil
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Andreas Calminder
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> running Jewel on some nodes with rados gateway I've managed to get a
>>> lot of leaked multipart objects, most of them belonging to buckets
>>> that do not even exist anymore. We estimated these objects to occupy
>>> somewhere around 60TB, which would be great to reclaim. Question is
>>> how, since trying to find them one by one and perform some kind of
>>> sanity check if they're in use or not will take forever.
>>>
>>> The radosgw-admin orphans find command sounds like something I could
>>> use, but it's not clear if the command also removes the orphans? If
>>> not, what does it do? Can I use it to help me removing my orphan
>>> objects?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Andreas
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>>
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Re: [ceph-users] RGW how to delete orphans

2017-09-28 Thread Webert de Souza Lima

When I had to use that I just took for granted that it worked, so I can't
really tell you if that's just it.

:|


Regards,

Webert Lima
DevOps Engineer at MAV Tecnologia
*Belo Horizonte - Brasil*

On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Andreas Calminder <
andreas.calmin...@klarna.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> Yes I'm able to run these commands, however it is unclear both in man file
> and the docs what's supposed to happen with the orphans, will they be
> deleted once I run finish? Or will that just throw away the job? What will
> orphans find actually produce? At the moment it just outputs a lot of text
> saying something like putting $num in orphans.$jobid.$shardnum and listing
> objects that are not orphans?
>
> Regards,
> Andreas
>
> On 28 Sep 2017 15:10, "Webert de Souza Lima" 
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> not an expert here but I think the answer is something like:
>
> radosgw-admin orphans find --pool=_DATA_POOL_ --job-id=_JOB_ID_
> radosgw-admin orphans finish --job-id=_JOB_ID_
>
> _JOB_ID_ being anything.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Webert Lima
> DevOps Engineer at MAV Tecnologia
> *Belo Horizonte - Brasil*
>
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Andreas Calminder <
> andreas.calmin...@klarna.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> running Jewel on some nodes with rados gateway I've managed to get a
>> lot of leaked multipart objects, most of them belonging to buckets
>> that do not even exist anymore. We estimated these objects to occupy
>> somewhere around 60TB, which would be great to reclaim. Question is
>> how, since trying to find them one by one and perform some kind of
>> sanity check if they're in use or not will take forever.
>>
>> The radosgw-admin orphans find command sounds like something I could
>> use, but it's not clear if the command also removes the orphans? If
>> not, what does it do? Can I use it to help me removing my orphan
>> objects?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Andreas
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Re: [ceph-users] RGW how to delete orphans

2017-09-28 Thread Andreas Calminder

Hi,
Yes I'm able to run these commands, however it is unclear both in man file
and the docs what's supposed to happen with the orphans, will they be
deleted once I run finish? Or will that just throw away the job? What will
orphans find actually produce? At the moment it just outputs a lot of text
saying something like putting $num in orphans.$jobid.$shardnum and listing
objects that are not orphans?

Regards,
Andreas

On 28 Sep 2017 15:10, "Webert de Souza Lima"  wrote:

Hello,

not an expert here but I think the answer is something like:

radosgw-admin orphans find --pool=_DATA_POOL_ --job-id=_JOB_ID_
radosgw-admin orphans finish --job-id=_JOB_ID_

_JOB_ID_ being anything.



Regards,

Webert Lima
DevOps Engineer at MAV Tecnologia
*Belo Horizonte - Brasil*

On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Andreas Calminder <
andreas.calmin...@klarna.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> running Jewel on some nodes with rados gateway I've managed to get a
> lot of leaked multipart objects, most of them belonging to buckets
> that do not even exist anymore. We estimated these objects to occupy
> somewhere around 60TB, which would be great to reclaim. Question is
> how, since trying to find them one by one and perform some kind of
> sanity check if they're in use or not will take forever.
>
> The radosgw-admin orphans find command sounds like something I could
> use, but it's not clear if the command also removes the orphans? If
> not, what does it do? Can I use it to help me removing my orphan
> objects?
>
> Best regards,
> Andreas
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Re: [ceph-users] RGW how to delete orphans

2017-09-28 Thread Webert de Souza Lima

Hello,

not an expert here but I think the answer is something like:

radosgw-admin orphans find --pool=_DATA_POOL_ --job-id=_JOB_ID_
radosgw-admin orphans finish --job-id=_JOB_ID_

_JOB_ID_ being anything.



Regards,

Webert Lima
DevOps Engineer at MAV Tecnologia
*Belo Horizonte - Brasil*

On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Andreas Calminder <
andreas.calmin...@klarna.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> running Jewel on some nodes with rados gateway I've managed to get a
> lot of leaked multipart objects, most of them belonging to buckets
> that do not even exist anymore. We estimated these objects to occupy
> somewhere around 60TB, which would be great to reclaim. Question is
> how, since trying to find them one by one and perform some kind of
> sanity check if they're in use or not will take forever.
>
> The radosgw-admin orphans find command sounds like something I could
> use, but it's not clear if the command also removes the orphans? If
> not, what does it do? Can I use it to help me removing my orphan
> objects?
>
> Best regards,
> Andreas
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