Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-27 Thread Jesper Dangaard Brouer
On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 21:38:10 +0200 Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: On Aug 23, 2013, at 07:13 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi List, hi Jesper, [...] It's my hope that the atm code works but is

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-27 Thread Jesper Dangaard Brouer
On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:29:25 -0700 Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have a date/kernel version on when linklayer overhead compensation stopped working? ADSL/ATM linklayer shaping were broken in kernel release from 3.8 to 3.10 by commit 56b765b79 (htb: improved accuracy at high

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-25 Thread Fred Stratton
As the person with the most flaky ADSL link, I point out that None of these recent, welcome, changes, are having any effect here, with an uplink sped of circa 950 kbits/s. The reason I mention this is that it is still impossible to watch iPlayer Flash streaming video and download at the same

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-25 Thread Fred Stratton
On 25 Aug 2013, at 10:21, Fred Stratton fredstrat...@imap.cc wrote: As the person with the most flaky ADSL link, I point out that None of these recent, welcome, changes, are having any effect here, with an uplink sped of circa 950 kbits/s. The reason I mention this is that it is still

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-25 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Fred, On Aug 25, 2013, at 12:17 , Fred Stratton fredstrat...@imap.cc wrote: On 25 Aug 2013, at 10:21, Fred Stratton fredstrat...@imap.cc wrote: As the person with the most flaky ADSL link, I point out that None of these recent, welcome, changes, are having any effect here, with an

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-25 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Fred, On Aug 25, 2013, at 16:26 , Fred Stratton fredstrat...@imap.cc wrote: Thank you. This is an initial response. Am using 3.10.2-1 currently, with the standard AQM interface. This does not have the pull down menu of your interface, which is why I ask if both are active.

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-25 Thread Fred Stratton
On 25 Aug 2013, at 18:55, Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: Netanalyzer is not useful in a fq_codel'ed system. Thank you. I shall stop using it. On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Fred, On Aug 25, 2013, at 16:26 , Fred Stratton

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-25 Thread Fred Stratton
On 25 Aug 2013, at 18:53, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Fred, On Aug 25, 2013, at 16:26 , Fred Stratton fredstrat...@imap.cc wrote: Thank you. This is an initial response. Am using 3.10.2-1 currently, with the standard AQM interface. This does not have the pull

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-25 Thread Dave Taht
So it sounds like you need a lower setting for the download than what you are using? It's not the upload that is your problem. Netanalyzer sends one packet stream and thus measures 1 queue only. fq_codel will happily give it one big queue for a while, while still interleaving other flows's

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-25 Thread Fred Stratton
Re-reading your comment, I have reset the upload rate higher to 900 kbits/s. On 25 Aug 2013, at 20:08, Fred Stratton fredstrat...@imap.cc wrote: That is very helpful. With a sync rate of about 12000 kbits/s, and a download rate of about 10900 kbits/s. I have set the download rate to 5000

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-25 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Fred, since you have a very good test with iPlayer, you can simply repeat your experiments to figure out where shaping becomes to unstable for iPlayer. It would be interesting to see whether RRUL (or other netsurf-wrapper tests) show qualitative differences around the same numerical shaping

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-24 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, On Aug 23, 2013, at 22:29 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Dave, I guess I found the culprit: once I added $ADSLL to the ingress() in simple.qos: I had that in there originally. I

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-24 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, so I git around to do the PIE tests... On Aug 23, 2013, at 07:13 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi List, hi Jesper, So I tested 3.10.9-1 to assess the status of the HTB atm link layer

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-23 Thread Jesper Dangaard Brouer
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 22:13:52 -0700 Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi List, hi Jesper, So I tested 3.10.9-1 to assess the status of the HTB atm link layer adjustments to see whether the recent changes

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-23 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Jesper, On Aug 23, 2013, at 09:27 , Jesper Dangaard Brouer jbro...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 22:13:52 -0700 Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi List, hi Jesper, So I tested 3.10.9-1 to assess

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-23 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, On Aug 23, 2013, at 07:13 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi List, hi Jesper, So I tested 3.10.9-1 to assess the status of the HTB atm link layer adjustments to see whether the recent changes

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-23 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Fred, On Aug 23, 2013, at 15:02 , Fred Stratton fredstrat...@imap.cc wrote: [snipp] Thus, in kernels = 3.9, you would need to change/reduce your tc overhead parameter with -14 bytes (iif you accounted encapsulated Ethernet header before) That is what I thought before, but my

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-23 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Jesper hi List, On Aug 23, 2013, at 09:27 , Jesper Dangaard Brouer jbro...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 22:13:52 -0700 Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi List, hi Jesper, So I tested 3.10.9-1

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-23 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, I guess I found the culprit: once I added $ADSLL to the ingress() in simple.qos: ingress() { CEIL=$DOWNLINK PRIO_RATE=`expr $CEIL / 3` # Ceiling for prioirty BE_RATE=`expr $CEIL / 6` # Min for best effort BK_RATE=`expr $CEIL / 6` # Min for background BE_CEIL=`expr $CEIL - 64` # A

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-23 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Toke, I guess I should have been clearer in stating that you are author of the AQM scripts. On Aug 23, 2013, at 19:23 , Toke Høiland-Jørgensen t...@toke.dk wrote: Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de writes: Well, partly the option for HTB was already in his script but under tested,

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-23 Thread Dave Taht
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Dave, I guess I found the culprit: once I added $ADSLL to the ingress() in simple.qos: I had that in there originally. I ripped it out because it seemed to help with ADSL at the time - as I was unaware the

[Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-21 Thread Dave Taht
It looks like the htb dsl fixes, and the ipv6_subtrees fix, will land in 3.10.9 or later. (they are already patched into my current tree, so yea! I get to rip them out) my thanks to everybody for looking into these problems and to those that fixed them. Too many people to thank here. Now, are