Re: Thinking of a career change.. how does one get into Technical Recruiting..

2009-03-13 Thread Ravi Gehlot
Just my $0.02 cents...I think that recruiters do help one get a job. Yes, most recruiters are all about business but who is not? They try to get you in and if they can not then they go on to the next one. This is just the nature of their business. They gotta make it work and in order to make

RE: Thinking of a career change.. how does one get into Technical Recruiting..

2009-03-13 Thread Adrian Lynch
Seems we all have similar experiences. Would love to hear what a recruiter has to say! Adrian -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:sstwebwo...@bellsouth.net] Sent: 12 March 2009 19:36 To: cf-jobs-talk Subject: Thinking of a career change.. how does one get into Technical

RE: Thinking of a career change.. how does one get into Technical Recruiting..

2009-03-13 Thread Rich Baker
Scott, This one kind of got away from the original topic a little : -) There are good Recruiters, and ones who should think about how to improve their customer service skills a bit, and yet others who would do the world a service and go back to selling used cars, or selling junk bonds to little

RE: Thinking of a career change.. how does one get into Technical Recruiting..

2009-03-13 Thread William Seiter
Some technical recruiters work with the concepts of a fisherman's net. They will catch anyone and everyone for a position, good fit or not. Whenever a recruiter contacts me I take control of the conversation, as I have gotten tired of driving all the way down to 'their' office to fill out their

RE: Thinking of a career change.. how does one get into Technical Recruiting..

2009-03-13 Thread Scott Stewart
I've worked with both, if I do go down this road I know who I don't want to be and that the guy who recruits by attrition. I've been the recipient of the fishing email and phone calls dozens of times, and it's never panned out. Someone with horribly broken English calls about a job half way

Re: Thinking of a career change.. how does one get into Technical Recruiting..

2009-03-13 Thread Ravi Gehlot
Correct. There are good recruiters as there are bad ones. There are good and bad everywhere. So it is important to work with someone that you trust. Every programmer must do their own research. Ravi. Scott Stewart wrote: I've worked with both, if I do go down this road I know who I don't

Re: Thinking of a career change.. how does one get into Technical Recruiting..

2009-03-13 Thread Ravi Gehlot
Qasim, There is no problem with H1B Visas. I have no clue why Scott mentioned it. Who cares... Ravi. Qasim Rasheed wrote: What's wrong with H1B visa if used appropriately. I came to this country based on that facility and have been able to become a permanent citizen. On Fri, Mar

RE: Thinking of a career change.. how does one get into Technical Recruiting..

2009-03-13 Thread Scott Stewart
There's nothing wrong with the program, if as you said it's used appropriately. But it is a program that needs to be tightened up by the new administration so that there is less chance for abuse. Unfortunately it's a program that I've personally been burned by a couple of times. Qasim, I hope

RE: Thinking of a career change.. how does one get into Technical Recruiting..

2009-03-13 Thread Scott Stewart
Ravi, I mentioned it because the way that I understand the program to work is that you have to provide proof to the State Department that you attempted to hire a citizen for the position. All that's required is a stack of resumes, and someone to say that they weren't right for the job. I feel

Re: Thinking of a career change.. how does one get into Technical Recruiting..

2009-03-13 Thread Ravi Gehlot
Scott, I have always been a Green Card holder so I am not familiar with other visas. I can't give you a formed opinion on this onesorry Ravi. Scott Stewart wrote: Ravi, I mentioned it because the way that I understand the program to work is that you have to provide proof to

Re: Thinking of a career change.. how does one get into Technical Recruiting..

2009-03-13 Thread Qasim Rasheed
Scott, I know your comments weren't directed towards anyone in particular and I have also seen the misuse of the program myself. However the thing that bothers me that people try to put all the blame on this program. I know, I came to this country legally, paid all my taxes for 7+ years and

Re: Thinking of a career change.. how does one get into Technical Recruiting..

2009-03-13 Thread Jeffry Houser
Personally I'd rather have smart people being brought into this country than them being sent elsewhere. I believe having intelligent people here it is a good long-term strategy for making this country better; no matter where they were born. I understand that many of the criticisms of such