Re: Thinking of a career change.. how does one get into Technical Recruiting..
RobG wrote: I like Ravi's positive outlook, but I have to somewhat disagree and say that there are lots of companies that will, without hesitation, do what's best for them, regardless of how loyal you've been or how hard you've worked. If it is a publicly traded company, it is illegal (in the US) to do anything else. The only responsibility the company has is to its shareholders. It is not uncommon for companies to change or do things that are not in the best interests of their employees, partners, or customers. -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur Adobe Community Expert: http://tinyurl.com/684b5h http://www.twitter.com/reboog711 | Phone: 203-379-0773 -- Easy to use Interface Components for Flex Developers http://www.flextras.com?c=104 -- http://www.theflexshow.com http://www.jeffryhouser.com -- Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4221 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Thinking of a career change.. how does one get into Technical Recruiting..
Personally I'd rather have smart people being brought into this country than them being sent elsewhere. I believe having intelligent people here it is a good long-term strategy for making this country better; no matter where they were born. I understand that many of the criticisms of such programs, such as H1B Visa, is that companies are bringing in foreigners to jobs that native USA-residents are qualified to do; and the workers brought in are treated as indenture servants. I do not know enough about said programs to tell whether that is a valid concern of a bunch of FUD. Qasim Rasheed wrote: Scott, I know your comments weren't directed towards anyone in particular and I have also seen the misuse of the program myself. However the thing that bothers me that people try to put all the blame on this program. I know, I came to this country legally, paid all my taxes for 7+ years and earned my green card. I hope we all appreciate the usefulness of real skills coming to this country (which I am now proud to call my second home). Thanks Qasim On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Scott Stewart sstwebwo...@bellsouth.netwrote: There's nothing wrong with the program, if as you said it's used appropriately. But it is a program that needs to be tightened up by the new administration so that there is less chance for abuse. Unfortunately it's a program that I've personally been burned by a couple of times. Qasim, I hope you understand that my comments don't reflect on you personally. -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC 27616 (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 -Original Message- From: Qasim Rasheed [mailto:qasim.li...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 4:32 PM To: cf-jobs-talk Subject: Re: Thinking of a career change.. how does one get into Technical Recruiting.. What's wrong with H1B visa if used appropriately. I came to this country based on that facility and have been able to become a permanent citizen. On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Ravi Gehlot r...@ravigehlot.net wrote: Correct. There are good recruiters as there are bad ones. There are good and bad everywhere. So it is important to work with someone that you trust. Every programmer must do their own research. Ravi. Scott Stewart wrote: I've worked with both, if I do go down this road I know who I don't want to be and that the guy who recruits by attrition. I've been the recipient of the fishing email and phone calls dozens of times, and it's never panned out. Someone with horribly broken English calls about a job half way across the country and my first response is are they considering telecommuters, the answer is usually no, or what?. My next question is is your client willing to contract a relocation company to move myself and my wife and buy our house. The answer again is usually no, and then they ask if I'm willing to rent an apartment wherever the job is, my answer is always no, because by this point, their asking me to take a financial loss to work for their client. On the other hand there are a handful of recruiters with whom I have had very very successful relationships with, and one in particular who has become a pretty good friend.. why, because they're honest stand up people who look at prospective employment candidates as something more than just an email address or a means to fulfill US State Department guidelines, to bring in H1B Visas candidates. -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC 27616 (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4211 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Thinking of a career change.. how does one get into Technical Recruiting..
Jerry Johnson wrote: I was (mostly) kidding. But many programmers and tech types do not realize how _hard_ placement folk work to get someone into a job. As a business owner for 10 years, who has never been placed by a recruiter; I think I have a general gist of the amount of work that goes into getting clients and keeping them happy. I don't anticipate that work is much harder than recruiting. I haven't looked for a job in about 10 years and haven't spoken to a recruiter for purposes of job hunts in over 8. Yet, recruiters keep contacting me saying they heard I was looking for a job. They obviously haven't done any research into me and have no idea who I am. They will never tell me where / how they found me or what made them think I was looking for a new job. It's always a vague on the internet. Basically, they are screen scraping my e-mail address somehow and contacting me unsolicited under false pretenses. It makes them spammers in my book. In fairness, I have been contacted by at least one person who found me through my blog or other means and seem genuine in their search and do not make assumptions about my current situation. Those are few and far between, though. -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur Adobe Community Expert: http://tinyurl.com/684b5h http://www.twitter.com/reboog711 | Phone: 203-379-0773 -- Easy to use Interface Components for Flex Developers http://www.flextras.com?c=104 -- http://www.theflexshow.com http://www.jeffryhouser.com -- Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4191 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Three Stars Media is a Scam Company
In case you hadn't heard, truth is no longer a defense in libel cases. If your post is with malign intent you can still be guilty. http://techdirt.com/articles/20090224/0147393882.shtml John Brown wrote: I know that these are tough times, but please be aware of this. If you get a job opportunity from Three Stars Media of Orlando, Florida, do not pursue it! They are a scam company which is the latest incarnation of a string of fraudulant companies that were created by an oowner who was convicted of fraud and child abuse. Don't beieve me? follow these links and judge for yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hfuC7IbVdE http://www.phishbucket.org/main/content/view/3596/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Spelunkster/Scammer http://www.aboutus.org/User:snagalot/ThreeStarsTeam.com ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4179 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: musings
JB Roth wrote: Perhaps this is more of a negotiation, and this is their first offer? Have you considered a counter-offer? As for layoffs, as an independent consultant, I understand you can be layed-off at a moments notice, no questions asked. I believe it really depends on the contract you have with your client. -- Jeffry Houser Flex, ColdFusion, AIR AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/members/JeffryHouser.html My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Podcast: http://www.theflexshow.com My Blog: http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4078 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: What Cold Fusion Job boards are there?
Dave Phillips wrote: I don't think the point here is that a project lead or client shouldn't be able to ask the developer a question. That's kind of ludicrous. However, calling and asking a question in detail is just as weasy as turning around and asking a question in detail. Not for everyone! Some people are more comfortable in person than on the phone or over IM. And, better yet, quick questions done over IM usually don't turn into long conversations, like they can in person. My experience is that 'quick' IM conversations with clients can often stretch; just like in person conversations. But, I think it all boils down to trust and communication. As long as developer and manager can communicate; they'll work well together. Some people communicate better in person. -- Jeffry Houser Flex, ColdFusion, AIR AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/members/JeffryHouser.html My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Podcast: http://www.theflexshow.com My Blog: http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3999 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Telecommute Question
As a business owner, I'd probably hire someone from Canada w/o too much additional thought. However, DotComIt is only set up to pay in US funds; so you'd have to deal with whatever conversions need to be done. I haven't spoken to a lawyer about the IP implications of hiring someone not based i the US. I expect that some companies will be interested in doing that. Phillip M. Vector wrote: No first hand knowledge and my comments are pure speculation, But I would think there wouldn't be extra work for the company to hire a non-us resident if they are just doing telecommuting work. After all, they don't have to be in the country to do the work, so I would suspect that all the laws involved with that are for those who do live near the workplace. Then again, I will restate. I'm only guessing here. Andrew wrote: Hi All, I live in Canada and I'm considering part time telecommute work. I'm having an issue finding information about what US companies are required to do to hire a Canadian telecommuter. I'm concerned that there could be a lot of extra work for a company to hire a Canadian telecommuter, which in turn would make applying for jobs a waste of time. Does anyone have links or firsthand knowledge about this? Thanks, Andrew ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3962 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: freelance cf web developer wanted
If someone I was hiring was using Notepad as their primary editor, I'd be very cautious; because I believe that IDEs (such as CFEclipse or Dreamweaver) save time on my dime. But, I wouldn't be forcing a vendor to use a specific IDE. I think from a legal stand point there is very little the client can force the recruiter to do while still maintaining an independence from each other. With this particular post, it was most likely written out of ignorance (no that never happens?). The job description writer is probably not coder, and didn't understand that an Eclipse plugin is not the only way to access a SVN repository. James Holmes wrote: Why would someone state that an offsite telecommuter must use CFEclipse as their development platform? If someone wants to code in vi or notepad, surely that's their problem and not the contracting company's? On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 4:40 AM, site mgt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Looking for a U.S. based freelance CF programmer to work offsite for an e-commerce company by telecommuting. Individual must be able to contribute at least 20 hours a week. Development environment need to be CF ECLIPSE and Subversion for version control. -- Jeffry Houser Flex, ColdFusion, AIR AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/members/JeffryHouser.html My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Podcast: http://www.theflexshow.com My Blog: http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3766 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Consultant vs. Employee
William Seiter wrote: I just finished reading this article on the subject: http://www.asktheheadhunter.com/industryinsider6.htm It is very interesting to read the benefits of a Consultant organization compared to a Headhunter, as well as how it works. I Read that and I'm still confused. For example, I've dealt with headhunter companies that removed my contact info from your resume so that they cannot be circumvented, with the employer contacting me directly. I've worked with Headhunter companies that put my resume on their letterhead and my data into their standard template as to not give preference to one candidate over the other. I was wondering if anyone has any experiences with a good CF consultant company? Or if one even exists? Based on the explanation of what a consulting company is in that article, I know of none. But, I do know a lot of companies who have similarities to what is described. Universal Mind and Webapper grew out of Allaire (Macromedia?) consulting. I believe both operate like that article's description of a consulting company (w/ a mix of W2 and 1099 workers). I do not know how much work either of them does in on-site placement of resource. I was wondering if anyone has any advice on how to handle the 1099 situation. I know that this means that all cash will be handed to me and I become directly responsible for all taxes, etc. Does anyone have any advice for a novice at this type of contract? The consultant office offered a w2 situation, but since all they offered was tax withholding, no benes, I figured it would be more profitable for me to handle it. Put aside taxes in the form of CDs or such and reap the interest gains for my own pocket. You have to pay taxes on a quarterly basis, so I'm not sure if CDs will help. Someone else mentioned you should touch base with an accountant in the area and I agree. Also have a lawyer look over the 1099 contract. Also remember, as a W2 the tax man takes out 1/3 of your paycheck (roughly). Your employer pays an extra 7+% for social security. As a self employed individual, you get to pay both the 1/3 and the 7+5 extra. I generally budget (income-expenses)*40% for taxes. I am also interested in reducing my taxes. I have had a side business of consultant work for a while, mainly in front of my computer doing the same development I was being paid fulltime to do. Now that I would be traveling for 1099 status, doesn't that open up my tax deductions widely? I don't think so it changes your ability to write-off things, although it sounds like you may have underplayed it previously. If you are commuting to and from a place of work that is not deductible. If you are commuting to and from sales call or client meetings, then it might be. You'd have to run that by your accountant. -- Jeffry Houser Flex, ColdFusion, AIR AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/members/JeffryHouser.html My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Podcast: http://www.theflexshow.com My Blog: http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3717 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Consultant vs. Employee
Always speak to an accountant, but... Bobby Hartsfield wrote: The traveling will definitely open up more deductions for you. Things like regular car maintenance/repairs, mileage, gas, meals, lodging, entertainment can really give you a huge break when this time of year rolls around. As I stated in another post, I do not think that traveling to and from a client location that you *WORK* at is eligible for tax deductions. But, if you work from home. You said you had a 'side' business before, which I took as you having a full time job and doing SOME extra stuff at home during off hours. If you are full time for yourself now, a home office is also a huge HUGE tax break. Not only would you be able to deduct assets like computers, office furniture, printers, paper, etc... you deduct a percentage of all utilities (lights, phone, internet, trash pickup, etc...) Having a normal job anywhere kills all of the home office deductions though. I suspect he could have taken the home office deduction (and travel expenses, and plenty of other expenses) with his side job, even if it was not his full time job. For many years of my life I juggled 3 businesses. I'd argue that none of them were full time, yet they were all eligible for deductions. -- Jeffry Houser Flex, ColdFusion, AIR AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/members/JeffryHouser.html My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Podcast: http://www.theflexshow.com My Blog: http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3718 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Consultant vs. Employee
I'll admit I suck at specific mileage expenses. I keep a log book of every time I fill up the tank. At the end of the year I take an estimate of the total mileage drove. Although I do have the records for repairs, oil changes, etc... I've always taken the mileage deduction for business car expenses. Aaron Rouse wrote: Yeah, but prior to this year my CPA said that a log book was sufficient. I still kept the actual proof but just found it almost funny that now the man wants the actual receipts and those things are so worthless since they fade to nothing. I am curious what do people use to track their vehicle use/expense? I have been using a PDA based program but it messed up late last year and will no longer sync with a computer. Been considering just making a web based app that I could use via my phone when on the road or just via my desktop all the other times. I am probably going to move my billing tracking as well but undecided on that one since the program I have used for years still functions but would be nice to eliminate the PDA use and already know it will not work on any of the phones I would get myself so creating something new is justifiable for me right now. On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Bobby Hartsfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. You should have proof of everything you claim in case of an audit and OMG I hate those receipts that fade to nothing! They should be illegal. -Original Message- From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:24 PM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: Consultant vs. Employee What I heard recently was that you had to provide proof in the form of receipts for things like fuel expenses and so on. Something I have always kept although I can not help but wonder how they would gather any proof from those things since they tend to discolor in a month or two to the point where you can not read them at all. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3726 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Consultant vs. Employee
Talk to an accountant. I think that, yes the government would see it as another client of your sole-proprietorship. However, my intuition is that driving to the client 5 times a week for an 8 hour day is a commute, not business mileage. It's a bit of a grey area. Talk to an accountant and if they say go for it; then go for it. There is a good chance that it will cost more for them to audit you than you'll make this year. :-) William Seiter wrote: Thank you all very much for your advice, suggestions and input. I know this is a better question for a CPA, however this might be something that someone has already researched and can 'guide' me. 1. My entire 1099 contract fits on one page and only mentions my hourly rate, my lack of workman's comp, a brief reminder that I am responsible for my own taxes as well as the standard 'at-will' state text. 2. I am working for the staffing company for the office I will be working for. (I will submit my invoice every 2 weeks and be paid accordingly) Since I have other 'side' clients currently, would the government see this as just 'another' client of my sole-proprietorship? If that is the case, wouldn't that open up my mileage from my main office (home) to the client's office, even though I am there for 40 hours a week? Is there anything that I am missing? William ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3729 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Guru Disputes?
I think if you set this up through guru.com then you're bound by their own terms and conditions, which probably call for some form of pre-legal-console arbitration. Talking to a lawyer won't hurt. James Holmes wrote: I think at this point you need a lawyer to go over the contract under which you did the work. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:46 AM, William Seiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From Guru.com Client and Contractor don't agree on something. In my case, the money has been in Guru's escrow account and the client has been non-responsive since I finished the project. Now the Client wants all of their money back from the Escrow account. -- Jeffry Houser Flex, ColdFusion, AIR AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/members/JeffryHouser.html My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Podcast: http://www.theflexshow.com My Blog: http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3662 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Dead Beat Clients.
The BAR Association is not a union ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_association ), it's a professional organization. I believe it is designed to help the customer not the lawyer. When a lawyer I had hired took over six months to return the unused portion of a retainer, I was able to leverage his BAR Association affiliation to help address the issue. The AAMA appears to have nothing to do with doctors ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AAMA ). Did you mistyped the American Medical Association (AMA)? ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Medical_Association ). I thought it was a lobbying group, not a union. The wikipedia entry seems to confirm this. I know nothing about the SEIU, although it does appear to be a union ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEIU ). If I read through the Wikipedia entry on Labor Unions ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_Union ), it talks about how Unions negotiate with **employers** on behalf of the union members (AKA Employees). This confirms my belief that such a group would be useless in a customer vendor relationship. Maybe ya'll should look into the IEEE? ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE ). It is a professional organization for engineers and programmers. I believe there is a lobbying piece to it. However, as a current member, I don't plan to renew as I felt there was no benefit to membership. Their publication for programmers Computer has some interesting stuff in there, but a lot of it is high level theory and has little relation to the daily grind of programming. Vincent Cannady wrote: I mean lawyers have the BAR Association, Doctors have the AAMA, Chambermaids have the SEIU. -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur, Software Developer, Author, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Podcast: http://www.theflexshow.com My Blog: http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3640 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Dead Beat Clients.
Honestly, I'm not sure of all specifics, however I do know that [in CT] IT services are taxed (1%), but web development services are exempt from that tax. Sales tax (such as in a retail store) is taxed at a different rate (6%). An accountant would be able to expand on specifics in your state. s. isaac dealey wrote: In fact, I'm probably treated a bit better because in Connecticut, web development services are exempt from sales tax, which is one less headache I have to deal with. I thought sales tax only applied to product. Am I like way out of touch? -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur, Software Developer, Author, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Podcast: http://www.theflexshow.com My Blog: http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3639 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Dead Beat Clients.
I thought unions dealt with employer-employee relationships; whereas this thread has been dealing with company - vendor relationships. Am I wrong in that? I can't imagine how a programmer's union would help me. Jerry Johnson wrote: I think unions are the single biggest evil in America today. If unions started making their way into programming, I would gladly trumpet my non-union status, and if it ever became impossible to do work without a union card, I would find another line of work. On Feb 3, 2008 3:36 PM, William Seiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that having a union would be good for working with dead beat clients as well as with obtaining good contracts, but a union should go further. To a client, a union has become the essence of 'good training'. Would we have an apprentice system? Would we develop 'union programming standards'? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3632 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Dead Beat Clients.
I was wondering that too... I don't believe that myself, as a business owner, is treated any differently than other business owners who are no in the IT field. In fact, I'm probably treated a bit better because in Connecticut, web development services are exempt from sales tax, which is one less headache I have to deal with. William Seiter wrote: What kind of issues have you seen with the 'Tax Man'? -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur, Software Developer, Author, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Podcast: http://www.theflexshow.com My Blog: http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3633 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Consultant's Revenge
J W wrote: Counterpoint #2: Unless you have money for a lawyer and run through small claims, your more than likely SOL. We need more protection that just trying to hire a lawyer. How much $$$ do you have to shell out for lawyers to MAKE a uplholdable contract/agreement. Remember its still you job to collect even if the judge awards you money. Good luck with that. How many consultants have the expendable income to collect like this. At DotComIt, we've never had a collection case go to court. Often a letter on the lawyer's letterhead is enough to get payment flowing. Of course the lawyer takes a cut of the collection (usually ~15%), but it's better than not getting paid at all. 4 weeks (160 hours) at $50 an hour = amount too large for small claims. I would hope that you're billing cycle is not longer than a month. As to how much DotComIt has spent creating legal contracts; quite a bit. In the beginning a lot of this was reactionary. okay, we had X problem with the client; how do I cover myself in that situation. These days we never work without being under contract, nor without an advance. And we have procedures in place to stop work if payment becomes late. -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur, Software Developer, Author, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Podcast: http://www.theflexshow.com My Blog: http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3609 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Consultant's Revenge
Create a filter to automatically delete posts from such a firm. At least then you won't have to deal with that stress. Maureen wrote: On Feb 1, 2008 6:35 AM, Bobby Hartsfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seriously... learn from the experience with whoever burned you today, maybe share your experience with some close friends and family in PRIVATE just to get it off your chest.. and move on. That's easy to say. But I had a very nasty experience with a firm that frequently posts on the jobs list, and I have to sit on my hands each time they do to keep myself from posting a warning to any poor soul that might fall into their clutches. I feel like I have an ethical duty to my fellow consultants to at least post a sign that says here be monsters. -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur, Software Developer, Author, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Podcast: http://www.theflexshow.com My Blog: http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3611 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Consultant's Revenge
It sounds like a lawsuit trap to me. The only way to keep it factual is if you moderate posts and control what people say. Once you do that, then you are no longer protected under safe harbor provisions. All that said, even if you're in the right in terms of free speech, that won't protect you from getting sued. All that said, I'm surprised something like this doesn't already exist. Joseph Smuzynski wrote: After dealing with a few too many disreputable companies, I'm just about ready to build a new site that is sort of a cross between f*ckedcompany.comand ChexSystems. The idea is to have a site where consultants of all types can come and anonymously post their negative experiences with various companies, large or small. The hope is that with proper marketing, it will become the first place a consultant comes to check out a company before doing work for them. If a company ends up with a negative listing, the way they get the listing removed is to make good with the consultant, then the consultant can mark the case closed. Naturally, if they have multiple bad entries, they would have to make good with everybody. The site would not allow inflammatory types of comments about a company; only facts. Each entry would be reviewed and approved before being posted. There would have to be supporting data too... for example, let's say a company refused to pay your last invoice. You would need to provide a copy of your last invoice and a work log to document it. All listings would have to include proof that you actually worked for the company... e.g. copies of pay stubs, a copy of the contract, etc. Otherwise the site could be used for extortion and would lose it's advantage because it wouldn't be taken seriously. So, the point is to help show companies that they have to treat consultants well... pay their people what they're owed, treat them kindly, etc. Otherwise these companies may find themselves unable to get people to work for them anymore. I don't see this being a lawsuit magnet either. Each posting would have to be factual, not emotional. No slanderous or libelous remarks. Just facts. It would boil down to the consultant's word against the company. No names of people would be mentioned, so you couldn't call people out by name. You could go as far as to say your supervisor was a micro-manager but you couldn't say, my supervisor, Bill Smith, was a micro-manager and was always giving me a hard time. Sure, the easier way is to just post about 'em here on cf-jobs-talk, but then you're likely to end up with a bad rap since a lot of job posters read this list too, no doubt looking for anybody who might be willing to speak out. I haven't really decided what to call the site either. I'm not even sure yet if I'll do it; I'm curious to hear what others think of the idea. Joe -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur, Software Developer, Author, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Podcast: http://www.theflexshow.com My Blog: http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3590 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Want to move into .Net?
Charlie Griefer wrote: moving this where it belongs. Jesse - with all due respect, the original poster posted an ad to a COLDFUSION list, which clearly insinuated that .NET is the better technology. What sort of response did you expect he'd get? I'd expect he'd get no responses. But on the other hand, it's not out of the realm of thought to think that there may be a few interested parties who work with both .NET and CF. Or a few who perceive that learning .NET is a good long term career move. If that particular company is looking to move to .NET, that's 100% their perogative. I understand that they are currently on CF, so they want a CF developer who will ultimately make the transition with them. That's fair. But to promote it as taking the next step professionally Learning a new technology often is a next step or a professional programmer. Right? -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur, Software Developer, Author, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Podcast: http://www.theflexshow.com My Blog: http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3503 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Senior Coldfusion Developer wants Telecommute work for $25.00
I budget 40% for taxes. If you're an employee, 33% is going to be about right (look at your paychecks). But, as an employee your employer is paying some additional percentage of your salary (I believe 7.5%) to social security. When you're self employed, you have to pay both the employee and employer portion of Social Security. Aaron Rouse wrote: The only thing that sucks about that is 1/3rd goes to taxes, correct? That really is not a whole lot of money when you break it down. I can understand rates to compete with people who telecommute from other countries although quite honestly I have never ran into the need to compete with them since people have always been willing to pay me a significant amount over $25 while telecommuting. On Dec 12, 2007 9:33 PM, Vincent Cannady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason here are the reason why I charge 25 dollars for telecommute work instead of my normal $50 per hour on site I save on 3 dollar per gallon gas I spend everyday with my kids I own my house outright I own all my vehicles outright I have solar panels so no electric bills I am competetive therefor I must compete against S.E. Asians who routinely take jobs away from Americans so I plan on beating them at their own game Now as to who I have worked for, I you like I can send you my written references from my managers at Both Sprint and Bank of America The list goes on I have worked at ADP, GSU, FAA, ATT, Cingular, Motorola, Three different State and County Government including DOuglas County SHeriffs office on Biometric Facial recognition program. Michael as promised this is my last post. And I apologize to the community again. never imagined my rate would cause such a stir. Maybe we all should drop our rates some if we want to stay in this business then the Big companies would not ship all our jobs to Bangalor I was going to send this out when I originally saw this post, but I don't know Vincent, and can't really speculate on him as a person. If you ask me... not that anyone has... $25/hr seems pretty low for the quality of work he claims to have done. Sprint.com, BankOfAmerica.com... In my opinion, you get what you pay for... and when it comes to web development, you might get lucky every now and then, but more times than none you'll end up getting left hanging. This is no different than any other industry... Perfect example is the show Holmes on Homes http://www.holmesonhomes.com/ this guy has made a living going around and fixing the mistakes of others. People often look for the cheapest price, and then get left hanging with a crappy product that was built inproperly, and/or without the proper permits. Web Development is no different, imo. If you're looking for a good Freelance Coldfusion Developer, then simply ask for professional references from the projects they've done. Don't go off of sample websites that they claim to have worked on. A good developer keeps doesn't burn bridges with his/her clients once the job is complete. So professional references should never be a problem. Once you contact these references ask then about the quality, overall responsivness, and support of the developer. And ALWAYS ask them if they would use this person/company again. Simply stated... Don't jump before check the pool for water :) Just my 2-cents. -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur, Software Developer, Author, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Podcast: http://www.theflexshow.com My Blog: http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3484 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Sr. ColdFusion Software Engineer Needed - Charlotte, NC
In today's environment, someone who went through college in 4 years would strike me as extremely committed and driven. Most people I went to school with were in for longer than that, even though the degree was officially a 4 year degree. That said, I don't think the degree argument is weak, but it I'll agree with cliche. Marriage is a different kind of commitment than the kind my business makes. I want to see people who can make a decision, set a goal, and make steps to accomplish that goal in a given set of time. ( These are the type of consulting projects I like ). Marriage isn't usually about setting goals and defining an end point. It just keeps going and going. ( These are the type of consulting projects I don't like ). Bryan Stevenson wrote: I think you're missing the point. A degree shows commitment. It shows your ability to start something and follow it through to the end. Sometimes that is what many employers are looking for. ..and by using this weak cliche arguement shows that those employers that do actually think that partying your arse off for 4 years shows anything but commitment to the shrine of beer and nachos gets them the employees they deserve!! Pick another litmus testI mean come onI'm married...surely that shows commitment ;-) -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur, Software Developer, Author, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Podcast: http://www.theflexshow.com My Blog: http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5adobecf8%5Fbeta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3429 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Sr. ColdFusion Software Engineer Needed - Charlotte, NC
Bryan Stevenson wrote: In today's environment, someone who went through college in 4 years would strike me as extremely committed and driven. Most people I went to school with were in for longer than that, even though the degree was officially a 4 year degree. That said, I don't think the degree argument is weak, but it I'll agree with cliche. Not to try and heat things up, but is this perhaps a difference in philosophy between the US and Canada? I couldn't even begin to guess. My business coach is Canadian; I'm American; but one person is hardly a cultural reference. I will however continue to see someone that did something major (and non-standard) other than getting a degree as someone who sees a goal and goes for it. I agree that college is not the only way. Going to school for a degree just means jumping through hoops and paying way too much for it to me. I believe a lot of people go to college w/o a focus, and that There are lots of folks that come out the other end without having really learned anythingbut that's the crappy system for letting them IMHO Agreed. -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur, Software Developer, Author, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Podcast: http://www.theflexshow.com My Blog: http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3435 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Sr. ColdFusion Software Engineer Needed - Charlotte, NC
Jeffry Houser wrote: Bryan Stevenson wrote: Going to school for a degree just means jumping through hoops and paying way too much for it to me. I believe a lot of people go to college w/o a focus, and that I spaced. Going to college w/o a focus seems like a waste of time / energy / money. I wouldn't recommend it. But, if you have agood idea of why you're going, go for it. -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur, Software Developer, Author, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Podcast: http://www.theflexshow.com My Blog: http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3436 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Sr. ColdFusion Software Engineer Needed - Charlotte, NC
Douglas Knudsen wrote: On 8/27/07, Jeffry Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeffry Houser wrote: Bryan Stevenson wrote: Going to school for a degree just means jumping through hoops and paying way too much for it to me. I believe a lot of people go to college w/o a focus, and that I spaced. Going to college w/o a focus seems like a waste of time / energy / money. I wouldn't recommend it. But, if you have agood idea of why you're going, go for it. I'd say go to gain focus. Yes, it costs some money, but sure is cheaper then wasting years in dead-end jobs trying to find something you like. In one year you can be exposed to 1/2 dozen disciplines and get a idea of just what goes on there. It is an expensive way to gain focus. ;) For me the 'core' courses in the first year were just a rehash of high school. But, then I knew exactly what I wanted. You really need enough discipline to hang in there those first two years, though eh? Actually, if I may Jeff, I will reword your comment to be 'Going to college without some focus' is a waste. You can figure out A focus once there. Thus I should have opened with I'd say go to gain A focus. Still, I think it is an expensive way to gain a focus. Surely there must be more cost effective ways? -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur, Software Developer, Author, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Podcast: http://www.theflexshow.com My Blog: http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3442 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Coldfusion Developer Needed for an Internet Start-up in Beta
Ditto, ditto, ditto! Especially on the contract part! Get it all in writing. And make sure those to handle those if I leave clauses up front. You don't want to work on a project for 12 months, leave because you're out of cash, and then found it was sold for 1.2 billion in the 14th month. Judith Dinowitz wrote: Well, if the guy has a solid business plan and you can afford it... But I'd suggest getting a good contract written up that specifies what he's promising and what happens to your code in the event the business fails. And again, as Jeff Houser said, buyer beware. Judith Dinowitz Editor-in-Chief: Fusion Authority http://www.fusionauthority.com Member, Executive Board cf.Objective() 2008 Early May, near Minneapolis, MN The world's ONLY enterprise engineering conference for ColdFusion www.cfobjective.com - Original Message - To each their own. Buyer beware. And all those other warnings. I used to have a lot of opportunities such as this come my way. When I ask for a business plan, the relationships usually crumble. But, if you can afford it and believe in the company and believe the payoff will be big, then why not? Crow T. Robot wrote: This is not a payng job and instead will be compensated through equity. Wow, did I wake up in 1999 and not know it? ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3374 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Coldfusion Developer Needed for an Internet Start-up in Beta
I had the same thought. :-) Phillip M. Vector wrote: My parents always told me to never trust someone who says, Trust me. Buyer Beware is ALWAYS needed and I question anyone who says it isn't needed. Dave Bethoney wrote: No buyer beware needed here. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3379 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Coldfusion Developer Needed for an Internet Start-up in Beta
To each their own. Buyer beware. And all those other warnings. I used to have a lot of opportunities such as this come my way. When I ask for a business plan, the relationships usually crumble. But, if you can afford it and believe in the company and believe the payoff will be big, then why not? Crow T. Robot wrote: This is not a payng job and instead will be compensated through equity. Wow, did I wake up in 1999 and not know it? -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur, Software Developer, Author, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Podcast: http://www.theflexshow.com My Blog: http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3372 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Great article on Telecommuting
I feel lucky. I love coding and want to do it till I die! And since I am almost always hired as a contractor, working from home is rarely an issue. My problem is that you can't run a business based solely on coding. I spend at least half of my time on project management, client relations, and other business issues. At 01:01 PM 3/22/2007, you wrote: The government does allow telecommuting to some extent though for their employees but maybe it is less likely to happen for contract programmers. I know the GAO did a report(GAO-05-1055R) that gave a rough overview of teleworking methodologies for several agencies in the Federal government. I too enjoy the nuts and bolts aspect of doing ColdFusion work but my ultimate goal is to get back into project management and work my way up over time. Currently just stay with CF work because it helps pay the bills rather well while I tackle finishing up college on top of a million other grown up responsibilities I have these days. On 3/22/07, Don Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You bring up a key point. I refused to spend the rest of my life pushing code around and moved into project management. I could not have done so from my house. I love ColdFusion and think it's a great tool, but I did not want to retire as a programmer. If you're happy developing code then by all means, remote telecommuting is a great plan. If you want to move up in a company then I am not sure how telecommuting helps: 1. Meeting with clients 2. Business Development for the company 3. Leadership 4. Osmosis, business intelligence, watercooler talk, lunch with the CEO, networking As a manager who developed for 10 years, I know when work is advancing and know, roughly, when it's not, even in languages I don't understand like C++ or Ruby. I utilize PMI and CMMI plans to keep track of all development and use Earned Value Management calculations to help identify modules that are out of scope. Professional management does not require seeing someone at the office. But the truth is: 1. Government clients require security that makes telecommuting, or the removal of code and data from the premises, virtually illegal 2. Telecommuters in my offices do not get the plum projects, they get the leftovers, they are marginalized I agree that telecommuting works best as a contractor/subcontractor and client arrangement. That way the clients are focused on the results. If one ran a company from home and attended graduate school for networking opportunities then I'd say it was win/win. I can't wait for the time when this is totally acceptable across the board and networks are secure, but that time is not 2007. Don There also is the issue of managing telecommuters. A lot of managers feel the need to see people working to know that things are being done. I have been reading through a book titled, Telework and Social Change it brings up a lot of interesting issues for both teleworkers and companies that decide to allow for them. What I find interesting is a lot of teleworkers say how great things have been for them for years and years, yet it appears to me they are doing the same basic type of work day in and day out. Although one could say the same thing about myself, been doing the same basic type of work for 6 years and most of it in a cube farm. Sure the tools and technologies change, but the work itself is essentially the same stuff. I do think there is a distinct difference between the independent worker who has their own company more or less and works primarily from their house vs an employee of a company who is allowed to work primarily from their home. On 3/20/07, Jeffry Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3303 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Great article on Telecommuting
Given the amount of lost personal info that companies have, I'm not quite convinced that it's easier to control centralized data. At 10:18 AM 3/21/2007, you wrote: There are also security and IP considerations - sure, at some point you have to trust your employees at least a little (even if you're the CIA or NSA), but it's still easier to control materials and data within a centralized workplace than in a distributed organization. -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Podcast: http://www.theflexshow.com My Blog: http://www.jeffryhouser.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3296 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Just joined; looking for advice
Unlike Dave, I never had any luck w/ Guru.com or similar type sites. I no longer look at them, preferring to spend time networking with local folks. I recommend writing a business plan. Who are you going to service? How are you going to reach them? What are your motivations for working on your own? I hope it's something more than I don't like my job. What are your expenses? Include marketing in their. How much do you have to make to cover all expenses. Add 15% on the top for retirement planning and 40% on the top for tax. Not all of your time will be paid, so keep that in mind. I generally budget 80 billable hours a month. If I'm working more billable hours than that, it means I'm not drumming up any business for next month. If you have a bunch of steady clients you may not care. Most companies budget somewhere between 25% and 35% of a employees salary for benefits. So, if you take your salary, turn it into an hourly rate (if not already), and add 30% the company can (theoretically) hire you as a consultant for that amount. Whether it makes sense for you to work at that rate is open to discussion. It is not uncommon for a company to hire back the employee that just left as a consultant, and if you can negotiated that you're well on your way. All that said, there is a good chance that you'll spend less time coding as a business owner and more time dealing with crazy insane client issues. At 12:10 PM 10/10/2006, you wrote: So what kind of advice would folks give to a someone considering quitting my regular job and becoming a full-time freelancer. My regular job is a mix of coding, network maintanence, and other IT-type stuff. Over the past year or so I've picked up a couple of freelance/contractor positions. The primary reason I am considering this is that the freelance work pays much more - almost twice. I've calculated all the costs of things like health insurance, taxes, etc. and believe I could come out ahead. A secondary reason would be I could concentrate on coding/builing applications and drop the less enjoyable parts of the job which are coding. Ideally I would be able to have my current employer as a client and be able to continue the coding part of this job. But that may be wishful thinking, especially when I tell them my hourly rate. Any advice and suggestions are appreciated. Thanks. -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com Now Blogging at http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3150 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: ColdFusion Contract
I expect that the duration of the project described in the initial post, below, would be 6+ months. At 09:50 PM 8/24/2006, you wrote: i am expecting $70 per hour. Btw, what is the duration ? Thanks Gopi phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We are needing a Sr. CF developer for a 6+ month project in San Francisco. Must have Coldfusion MX 6/7exp. Experience with Oracle is a real plus. This project is ready to start now! [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415-989-5242 -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com Now Blogging at http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3110 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: ColdFusion MX Developer Position
Am I the only one who saw this blank post (below)? Not to tell Michael how to run HOF, but I bet if you added text to the subscribe page http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs/subscribe.cfm which stated that the list strips attachments, we'd see less posts like the one below. At 05:29 PM 8/15/2006, you wrote: Please post this position. Please contact me with any questions. Marla Springer Account Manager Miles Consulting Corp. www.milesconsultingcorp.com The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material, the disclosure of which is governed by applicable law. If the reader of this message is not an intended recipient or agent responsible for delivering it to an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, delete the message, and destroy any hard copy printouts. -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com Now Blogging at http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3095 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: ColdFusion MX Developer Position
Point taken, but honestly I would like to think so. At 07:01 PM 8/15/2006, you wrote: You think so? How many unsubscribe requests do you see on mailing lists where every post has to unsubscribe, go here? I see plenty. I think a lot of people never read those things. Of course, it couldn't hurt, either. Jeffry Houser wrote: Not to tell Michael how to run HOF, but I bet if you added text to the subscribe page http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs/subscribe.cfm which stated that the list strips attachments, we'd see less posts like the one below. -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com Now Blogging at http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3097 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Fwd: DEVELOPER NEEDED: Part-Time Project Work; 100% Telecommute Opportunity
I think that is a fantastic response from the companies perspective. The initial post didn't seem snobby to me, but I was unclear if they were looking for a website designer or a website programmer. I don't know of anyone who excels at both. I don't use CSS to build web sites; I try to use designers to build websites, wherever possible. At 02:20 PM 8/7/2006, John Wilker wrote: Guess HOF lists can't be second on the TO line. Thought the list would like the email I got. J -- Forwarded message -- From: John Wilker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Aug 7, 2006 12:04 PM Subject: Re: DEVELOPER NEEDED: Part-Time Project Work; 100% Telecommute Opportunity To: Christian N. Abad [EMAIL PROTECTED], CF-Jobs-Talk@houseoffusion.com nice. Christian, I don't think that's something you'll have to worry about. On 8/7/06, Christian N. Abad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the feedback, John! Please don't ever apply for a position with my company. Have a wonderful day! ~Christian N. Abad President - Accessible Computing -Original Message- From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 1:29 PM To: CF-Jobs Subject: Re: DEVELOPER NEEDED: Part-Time Project Work; 100% Telecommute Opportunity We should probably move this to jobs-talk before admins get pissy :) Brian has a point, but does asking for every skill under the sun help? Then you end up just looking like you don't know what you want, so you end up getting resumes that figure, If you don't know, maybe my skillset is ok As the for tables thing. I went to the site expecting zen garden esque CSS. that statement was pure sillyness, good luck in your search, [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 8/7/06, Brian Peddle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can see where they are coming from though. I have been sourcing candidates for a few positions and it gets old sifting through resumes where the applicants barely have any of the skills you are looking for and in some cases none of the skills. -Original Message- From: Ray Meade [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 12:51 PM To: CF-Jobs Subject: Re: DEVELOPER NEEDED: Part-Time Project Work; 100% Telecommute Opportunity Even if I were qualified for the position I wouldn't waste my time with a company with such a snobby, patronizing, better than everyone else attitude. And with all the skills and experience you're demanding, you're probably not paying even close to what the job is worth, companies like you never do. Accessible Computing, Inc., a leader in web accessibility and usability, is seeking a ColdFusion developer for part time telecommuting work. We are looking to form a long-term relationship with the right candidate. The ideal candidate is an experienced ColdFusion developer who can hand-code XHTML and CSS without using a WYSIWYG editor. (If you use tables to design websites, you need not apply.) Requirements: * ColdFusion MX 7+ * Model Glue * Reactor * ColdSpring * Object-Oriented Development * MySQL or SQL Server 2000 / 2005 * XHTML * CSS * JavaScript * Accessibility * WCAG - (Web Content Accessibility Guidelines) * Section 508 Standards * Excellent Verbal and Written Communication Skills * Ability to Work Unsupervised from Your Home Office (100% Telecommute) Nice-To-Haves: * XML * XSL * Subversion * Trac Compensation: * Depending on Experience Miscellaneous: * Portfolio of Relevant Work Required * References Required * No Sponsors * No Agencies If interested, please submit a cover letter, resume, portfolio and compensation requirements to jobs [at] accessiblecomputing.com. NOTE: If you do not meet ALL of the above requirements, please do not respond to this job posting. (Seriously, don't waste our time!) Thanks! ~Christian N. Abad President, Accessible Computing, Inc. http://www.accessiblecomputing.com ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3043 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
RE: DEVELOPER NEEDED: Part-Time Project Work; 100% Telecommute Opportunity
I'm still unsure why the original post was considered 'snobbish'. That said, I wonder how potential future employers will react to those who post flames of job posts on this list (or the other). At 05:36 PM 8/7/2006, you wrote: Not a problem. Next time you want to post like a snob, please feel free to post again. I can use more material for my stand up comedy. :) Oh.. and to the Way to waste bandwidth... If your company is that concerned with how much bandwidth that discussion used, I suggest you upgrade your internet connection up to a full 56k modem. You will be highly impressed with the speed. :) Original Message: - From: Accessible Computing, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:28:24 -0400 To: cf-jobs-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: DEVELOPER NEEDED: Part-Time Project Work; 100% Telecommute Opportunity Hello All: Thank you for the lively discussion about our job posting today! To all those who childishly flamed our post on the incorrect list, we salute you! Way to waste bandwidth! We're so impressed with your skills that we politely request that you NEVER apply for a position with our company. Thanks. To all those who clearly understood the points we were trying to get across, and the importance of those points, we humbly bow to you. We commend you for trying to help out your fellow man, however futile it may be. The bottom line is we received several high-quality candidates from some of the biggest names in the ColdFusion community. All were well-qualified and understood the importance of the high standards we hold them to. We were very pleased with the results from the CF-Talk list. (Thanks, Michael!) Thanks Again! ~Christian President - Accessible Computing -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 2:47 PM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: Fwd: DEVELOPER NEEDED: Part-Time Project Work; 100% Telecommute Opportunity I think that is a fantastic response from the companies perspective. The initial post didn't seem snobby to me, but I was unclear if they were looking for a website designer or a website programmer. I don't know of anyone who excels at both. I don't use CSS to build web sites; I try to use designers to build websites, wherever possible. At 02:20 PM 8/7/2006, John Wilker wrote: Guess HOF lists can't be second on the TO line. Thought the list would like the email I got. J -- Forwarded message -- From: John Wilker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Aug 7, 2006 12:04 PM Subject: Re: DEVELOPER NEEDED: Part-Time Project Work; 100% Telecommute Opportunity To: Christian N. Abad [EMAIL PROTECTED], CF-Jobs-Talk@houseoffusion.com nice. Christian, I don't think that's something you'll have to worry about. On 8/7/06, Christian N. Abad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the feedback, John! Please don't ever apply for a position with my company. Have a wonderful day! ~Christian N. Abad President - Accessible Computing -Original Message- From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 1:29 PM To: CF-Jobs Subject: Re: DEVELOPER NEEDED: Part-Time Project Work; 100% Telecommute Opportunity We should probably move this to jobs-talk before admins get pissy :) Brian has a point, but does asking for every skill under the sun help? Then you end up just looking like you don't know what you want, so you end up getting resumes that figure, If you don't know, maybe my skillset is ok As the for tables thing. I went to the site expecting zen garden esque CSS. that statement was pure sillyness, good luck in your search, [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 8/7/06, Brian Peddle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can see where they are coming from though. I have been sourcing candidates for a few positions and it gets old sifting through resumes where the applicants barely have any of the skills you are looking for and in some cases none of the skills. -Original Message- From: Ray Meade [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 12:51 PM To: CF-Jobs Subject: Re: DEVELOPER NEEDED: Part-Time Project Work; 100% Telecommute Opportunity Even if I were qualified for the position I wouldn't waste my time with a company with such a snobby, patronizing, better than everyone else attitude. And with all the skills and experience you're demanding, you're probably not paying even close to what the job is worth, companies like you never do. Accessible Computing, Inc., a leader in web accessibility and usability, is seeking a ColdFusion developer for part time telecommuting work. We are looking to form a long-term relationship with the right candidate. The ideal candidate is an experienced ColdFusion developer who
Re: Independent Consultants
I hate to turn this into a flame bait, but... Did you just start a company doing the exact thing you said you hated? It doesn't sound like a recipe for success. Don't a lot of recruiting firms work this way (where the consultants are employees of the recruiting firm)/ At 09:57 AM 6/9/2006, Dave Phillips wrote: Hi all, I have been an independent consultant for years, doing ColdFusion for over 8 years, and one of the things I hated most was dealing with my taxes, estimated quarterly payments, blah, blah, blah. As a result, I have now formed a new company and one of the services I'm providing for other independent consultants is a billing and payroll service. Basically, it works like this: You have your clients and do your work for them. When you are ready to bill them, you provide their contact info and your billing information (company name, logo, amount of work, cost, etc.) and I invoice your client for you. Your client then sends in a check and you are then paid as an employee of my company. I take care of all the withholding for your taxes (you're still paying your SE Social Security taxes, it's just coming out automatically for you) and reporting to the IRS. As far as the IRS is concerned, you are an employee of my company (WebTech Staffing, LLC). As a result, at the end of the year, you get a W-2 and do your taxes like every other normal soul who doesn't have to deal with self-employment taxes. So basically, my service is there to take the burden of invoicing, payroll and tax handling off of the independent consultant so they can focus on what they do best: consulting. Another nice benefit is that once I have enough consultants on board, we can apply as a group for health and other insurance and not have to be singled out for individual health plans! There are other benefits we can access as well (401k, Cafeteria plan, etc.) If you're interested in finding out more, please contact me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't have a website put together yet, because this is just getting off the ground. However, I have owned my own company with many employees for years, so even though I'm just starting this service, I am not new to all the regulations and requirements for this area. Happy consulting! Sincerely, Dave Phillips WebTech Staffing, LLC (402) 896-8801 -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com Now Blogging at http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:3018 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Independent Consultants
At 01:35 PM 6/9/2006, Michael Perlstein wrote: This is a good question Jeff and one I run into often having involvement in the IT hiring industry. There seems to be a little misconception with respects to terms like, Consultant, Independent Contractor and Employee. I have never heard the distinction described in such a manner. Many people, as you say, use consultant and contractor as synonyms; so the confusion does not surprise me. I was unaware there was an official distinction. Where do 1099 workers fit into the picture? Independent Contractor as many of you know actually means Corp to Corp, where you do your own taxes, don't sign a W-2 and don't expect to get benefits from the company that pays you. It also means you only get paid AFTER your client gets paid if your are subbing through them. That is not always the case, although I have seen such clauses before. When I outsource, I never put that restriction on my contractors. I have worked with many companies who outsource to me and never put that restriction on me. A smart independent contractor will [try to] negotiate payment terms beyond you get paid after we get paid. Most (not all) companies I've worked with in such regards are willing to say something like we get paid in 30 days, so we can pay you in 45 days. Others are willing to offer up an advance payment. I believe either one could constitute a valid middle ground. -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com Now Blogging at http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:3019 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Multiple CF Jobs in Greensboro, NC (High Point)
:hmm: I'm all for Keep it simple stupid, but this seems to illustrate a rather narrow view of frameworks. At 03:18 PM 6/9/2006, you wrote: I love this part... This position requires a programmer who is NOT set on Fusebox or any other methodology. We don't create un-necessary complicated development processes and we don't make things harder than they have to be. It's very important that you can relate to this philosophy. If I lived in the area I'd go for it. Too bad they don't accept telecommuting. Michael At 03:09 PM 6/9/2006, Jason Hall wrote: Junior to Mid Level: http://greensboro.craigslist.org/art/169428527.html Senior Level: http://greensboro.craigslist.org/eng/168643808.html -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com Now Blogging at http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:3022 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: usability skills
I'm not sure if I'm responding to flame bait or not. Is your brother available for hire? I don't know anything about cognitive psychology or web usability (Ask any one of my clients; they'll agree with me). But, to say that your 8 year old brother has the same skills as someone w/ a degree in x, just doesn't click well in my mind. At 12:57 PM 3/17/2006, you wrote: My 8 year old brother is just as qualified as any psyche major at informing someone of what should be changed in an application to make it more 'user friendly'. Saying cognitive psychology has a lot to do with usability is like saying breathing is necessary to live. I don't know anyone who went to college and majored in breathing that came out claiming their degree gave them the knowledge to change the way everyone else breathes. It's a label on the way people supposedly 'think' based on past experience and it's complete BS to assume everyone thinks the same way because their uncle did odd things to them or they have to move their mouse 5 more pixels to the left. I bet there are a ton of porn surfers out there that are WAAAYY better suited for recommending usability changes than psychologists. Why? Because they surf the web one handed ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 10:02 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: usability skills Cognitive Psychology has a lot to do with usabilty , especially my area, attention and information processing. Where do you think this stuff came from in the first place? On 3/17/06, Bobby Hartsfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'bout as much as psych ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Judith Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 6:11 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: usability skills I'm happy for you, Bobby. But what does that have to do with usabilitiy skills? (curious) Judith - Original Message - I slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2939 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: usability skills (slightly OT)
Well put. At 05:38 PM 3/17/2006, you wrote: Slightly OT... This talk about degree-holders and non-degree holders makes me think of a person I worked with at a university resently. I was in a small, tight group in the administrative arm of the university system. We were responsible for any system-wide sites and for any campus-based sites that couldn't be hosted by the individual campus (or didn't want to). We had just made the decision to go to CF from Perl (back in 2001) and after a very brief training started coding new pages at a furious pace. One of the trainees had dropped out of the training because she couldn't keep up. It turns out that she had several degrees in programming theory and other mathematical and theoretical studies. Had even written a book. Very impressive on paper, but she couldn't program her way out of a paper bag. A few days after we had finished the core of our first CF site she stepped into the fracas and suggested that we should be learning java instead. I stopped and looked at her and came very close to asking her if she'd fair any better at learing that language. I mean, if she couldn't hack CF... Java?!? I passed on the barb, and we continued working with CF. Advance the film a couple of years and now we've advanced beyond the basics and are now building a single, server-based, multi-site-hosting CMS to end all CMSes. But one day we're stuck on a particular problem. We three programmers are sitting around in our swivel chairs tossing paper balls at each other trying to figure it out. In walks the PhD non-programmer and makes a suggestion. We all put our hands up and skoff. She walks up to the wipe board and explains the situation and we argue for 20 minutes. When it's all over the three of us are staring at each other at how well the suggestion will solve the problem, and probably a few others as well. She wipes her hands and walks out of the room, smiling. I have to say, up until that point I was wondering (a) how she had ever gotten any degrees and (b) what the hell she was doing in our group. She couldn't program her way out of a paper bag, but she did that theoretical trick on us two more times before I left the university. Experience is everything, but it gets stale without an occasional theory. Funny thing, too. She was the Accessability Specialist in our group. A real stickler for fine detail. Mik Michael Muller Admin, MontagueMA.net Website Montague, MA 01351 work (413) 863-0030 cell (413) 320-5336 fax (518) 713-1569 skype: michaelBmuller email [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.MontagueMA.net Eschew Obfuscation ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2951 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Independant work
This is moved from CF-Jobs to CF-Jobs-Talk. My first job? The company I left hired me back as a consultant. I haven't decided whether or not this was a good idea, but I've been on my own for 7 years since then. Read my whole life story here http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/read/167913.htm The whole (December?) issue of CFDJ was supposed to be on this topic, I think. The question you should ask yourself is if you want to be a consultant or Business-owner. From my perspective a consultant is the hired gun who is brought on-site for some period of time. Usually the consultant only has one client at a time, and is paid hourly. Most jobs like this can be found through recruiting firms or on places such as dice.com. The Business Owner usually works off-site and works on a fixed-fee basis. Often juggling multiple clients at a time. If you want to do this, networking is the way to go. Join a local user group and/or join the local chamber of commerce. What other networking groups can you find in your area? At 11:49 AM 3/8/2006, Jeff S wrote: I've worked for an established company for the entirety of my IT career. I've now decided to leave my current company and am considering striking out on my own to get my own contracts. For those of you that work for yourself. Where did you find your first jobs? Most of the work I'm find are companies wanting full time employees and not just programming work. I'm guessing I'm looking in the wrong places so I'm here asking for any resources you independant guys go to find your next job. Any other advice/resources would be greatly appreciated as well. TIA, JS -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com Now Blogging at http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2917 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Independant work
At 03:33 PM 3/8/2006, you wrote: This is moved from CF-Jobs to CF-Jobs-Talk. My first job? The company I left hired me back as a consultant. I haven't decided whether or not this was a good idea, but I've been on my own for 7 years since then. Read my whole life story here http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/read/167913.htm The whole (December?) issue of CFDJ was supposed to be on this topic, I think. There was a whole issue of CFDJ on your life story? Wow... I'm impressed! :) :laughs: I meant the article was on my life story, although in brief. The whole issue of CFDJ was supposed to be 'Marketing and Management'. Although, I don't have a good gauge as to how well the topics are sticking to the focus. -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com Now Blogging at http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2919 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Too much experience
That is probably the business man inside you fighting with the App Developer. I bet the app developer is winning. I have never been placed by a recruiter. Generally the recruiter is going to mark you up at least 100% if not more. I'm sure double what the recruiter would pay you is much closer to an acceptable rate. The question is, what can you do to find clients w/o recruiters? I don't have a specific answer (I struggle with it every day), but I've been pretty lucky. At 02:41 PM 2/13/2006, you wrote: I'm doing that with my various pieces of email code. These lists are all CF driven and the code should be put out there. Problem is, I hate charging for my code. Perhaps the solution is to build marketable apps that are really very good, and make your money that way. That's what I'm trying. Takes a while for it to take off though, that's for sure. But once it's going, you're good. Mik At 02:22 PM 2/13/2006, Michael Dinowitz wrote: I saw another NY based contract on the CF-jobs list but once I saw who posted it, I knew I'd never get it. Why? Because I'm too experienced. If you have 10+ years in ColdFusion your almost un-hirable. If you ask below your worth, the company is worried that you will not be happy and will jump ship first chance you get. And that's if you take below your worth to begin with. If you ask your worth, the head hunter will not send you to the company for fear of the company rejecting the resume out of hand. Or to be more real, the head hunter will try to talk you down to what he feels is the highest the company will go because he gets a percentage and really wants to get it. If you ask for a real bid, the chances are the head hunter will just not send it along at all. Too many high bids makes the head hunter look bad. It's a dangerous cliff. Grow and get better but if you get too good, you fall off. :( ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2866 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF or C F ?
Just copy the complete job post that you want to the end of your resume. Make sure to turn the font white, so they recruiters don't see that you copied there post. I bet you'll get calls. Despite what Cameron said in the previous post, I would hold it against someone who uses Cold Fusion on their resume. Either a) They have no attention to detail (bad) b) Are a complete newbie and don't understand that they are making a mistake. (forgivable if you are looking for a newbie) C) They have been around a while, but are doing nothing to further themselves as a programmer or keep up on current trends. We're not talking about the knowing the latest and greatest framework here, we're talking about the name of the technology. If ColdFusion is trademarkable, then I bet that there are no problems trademarking Cold Fusion. I thought the name change from Cold Fusion to ColdFusion was to separate the programming jobs from nuclear physicist jobs. ( Of course, it has not had that affect since so many people get it wrong) At 09:11 PM 1/25/2006, you wrote: I think with it being quite commonly spelled both ways it might be good to mix it up on resumes ;) That way it might make it through any automatic filtering On 1/25/06, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, as Beau points out, it's quite common to see it used both ways in job posts so it's always a good idea to search for both spellings when you do job searches. -Cameron ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2854 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: A Question For Recruitment Agents
I'm not a recruiter, but from what I can gather... If you're consulting through a firm, they are marking up at least 100%, if not more. 300% does not surprise me. w/ full time stuff, it's usually a percentage of your first year salary, which I suspect is at least 50%. They'll never tell you. One of my friends has been on both sides of the fence (He's hired people through recruiters and has found jobs through recruiters). I typically don't deal w/ recruiters anymore. At 07:55 PM 1/19/2006, you wrote: Out of interest, does anyone know what percentage the agency takes from/adds to the rate? I know of one guy who wanted to charge the end client nearly 300% of the rate. That can't be normal can it? -Original Message- From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 January 2006 00:46 To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: A Question For Recruitment Agents I've had that happen too. I don't deal with them anymore if I can avoid it. Agents now-a-days seem to think we (developers, DBAs, whatever it is they're looking for) are not people. I've had one go quiet for months. then email me again not remembering our previous contact. I had another ask me the same questions he asked in an earlier conversation from THAT DAY!! The industry of head hunting/recruiting has gone downhill a lot. On 1/19/06, Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Companies I can understand. But agents? If they can take my email address and send automated emails for other potential jobs, why can't they do the same with rejections? In my eyes it doesn't do their already tarnished reputations any good. I read a piece in the BCS (British Computer Society) magazine, saying there should be a code of conduct for agents, one that includes letting candidates know, in a timely manor, about rejections. I tend to agree. Having said all that, I meant to tell someone yesterday that I won't be able to do some work for them because I don't have the time. Oppps! Adrian -Original Message- From: s. isaac dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 January 2006 00:02 To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: A Question For Recruitment Agents A quick question for any recruitment agents on this list(or anyone else who knows). Twice in the passed year I've started a dialog with a recruitment agent, only for them to go quite and not tell me that I didn't get an interview. How hard would it be for them to have sent a quick email saying, they weren't interested? I understand that this might lead to another email asking why etc, but I'd rather THAT second email was ignored and I knew I didn't get an interview so you can move on and make other plans. Surely it's just common courtesy, or am I missing something? Adrian It's become unfortunately common for companies to not send rejection letters, emails, etc... just what I've experienced and heard from others, so you're not alone in thinking it's discourteous. s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2847 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: 2006 Turn Around?
I've found that a lot of people get deep into one area of CF without getting a lot of Breadth of the language. I doubt think that is unique to CF, though. It doesn't surprise me that a developer doesn't know cfqueryparam. IT no longer seems to be a field where people are ecstatic about it and want to live and breath IT 24/7. Some people just want to do there job and go home. There are always exceptions, of course, but they seem to be exceptions rather than the norm. I bet the number of people using frameworks in CF is very low (compared to the number of CF Developers). The number of people using an OO framework like Model-Glue or Mach-II is even smaller. I would expect an intermediate programmer to understand basic OO concepts, even if they are not framework aware. You're more than welcome to say but a developer should take it upon himself to go out and learn. I agree (probably most people will) but not everyone does it. At 08:11 PM 1/11/2006, you wrote: CF jobs have increased in Ohio. I think if I would have held out at my old position for another year I could have had my choice of about 4 different companies. That being said I am pretty happy with my choice to go where I am. However we too need a developer and can't find crap. THe most experienced person we had apply didn't even know what cfqueryparam did. A cf developer that knows OOP yeah right. Model-Glue, Mach-II? Those are simply a products we sell. Adam On 1/5/06, Robert Reno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems like I have been getting double the usual calls for CF openings in Florida. Has anyone else noticed more calls where you are? I even had two direct calls from companies hiring in addition to the recruiters calling. Rob in Tampa ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2820 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Part Time Coding
Hey, it happens. I know I've made that mistake. At 08:49 PM 12/20/2005, you wrote: we won't tell anyone Ben. :) On 12/20/05, Ben Arledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, it appears I'm a novice with email. :) Sorry everyone! Ben ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2796 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Telecommuting Survey
A good friend, and co-worker, of mine is working towards her MBA. She is writing a paper for her statistics class on telecommuting. She is looking for participants. Since this lists removes attachments, you can download the survey and get more details here: http://www.jeffryhouser.com/index.cfm/2005/11/7/Telecommuting-Survey (For those that get this multiple times, sorry for the cross post) -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com Now Blogging at http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2790 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: questions for when hiring telecommuters
At 11:40 AM 9/1/2005, you wrote: Hi, I'm looking to expand my business and would like to hire an employee. At the present moment I would imagine there would be only about 20 hours or so a week. As I'm based in the UK (London) I would imagine there are not a huge amount of good CF developers? I thought there was UK CF User Group. You might start there. My questions are: 1. What sort of wage would a telecommuter expect if they had an above average level experience with CF MX. In my experience it ranges from $10 to $100 (US Dollars). Expect more if you're hiring a company with a location, etc.. That doesn't give you a lot of narrow-down range, does it? Too many factors are involved. I haven't investigated oversees pricing (or contractors), so your mileage may vary. 2. What recommendations do you have so that the developers do the work timely, correctly and of the standard required. Can you put such issues in the contract? Something along the lines of Missed deadlines, or shoddy work are cause for us terminating your contract. (That is not lawyer speak). If they aren't doing it in a timely fashion, then you'll know as soon as the first deadline is missed. If they aren't doing it correctly then you'll discover that when you test their code. Do you have documented standards for them to follow? If so, then a quick code review will be easy to tell if they are following those standards (or not). Are there other standards you are worried about? Perhaps you should start w/ a small project and see how it goes. 3. I've trust issues... what levels of access should be granted to the developer in the beginning stages? How can you ensure that they will not use the information, data code they receive to their's rather than the businesses advantage? It's common practice to put this sort of thing into an NDA. A contract (and/or NDA) does not prevent others from doing whatever they want, it only gives you the write to sue them for it later (once again, UK laws may be different). That said, don't hire someone whom you don't trust. 4. What is a good way to conduct a telecommuters interview? The best ones I've taken use advanced coding questions. They usually consist of 3-5 questions and usually take me 4-8 hours to complete. For example: Here is a UML diagram for [x]. From this diagram, build the database tables, CFCs, and CRUD web interface. -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2765 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Simple Web App Needed
Without reviewing a business plan we have no idea what Dan is putting up. The success of any business includes much more than product development. In most cases, when people ask for equity deals, such as this one, I'm able to put their requests to rest by asking for a business plan. At 01:15 PM 7/13/2005, you wrote: Can we please move this thread to cf-jobs-talk ? Dan's got what he thinks is a good idea, and instead of investing his own money he's looking for someone else who is willing to invest a lot of time into an idea, where Dan's not putting up much of anything, other than his idea. If someone wants to invest a lot of programming time into an idea where Dan isn't willing to put a penny into his own idea, so be it - that's the programmer's choice. I'm not knocking on this guy's door, and neither are you. Let Dan post without getting flamed for it. - Original Message - From: Robert Raisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:49 am Subject: Re: Simple Web App Needed *chuckle* Good for you! It's amazing how many think all they need is a good idea to become Internet Bazillionaires(tm). If good ideas were all we needed, most of us would own tropical islands loaded with toys and connected by multiple T3s. I've often thought what our industry really needs is a truly objective exposition on how hard it is to build a business online, emphasizing how little the idea really matters. Most books on the topic are thinly disguised, ego-stroking marketing fluff trumpeting the founders' brilliance in coming up with the good idea and how the if you build it, they will come mantra is all you need to succeed. Every young would-be entrepreneur should read how business acumen, effective market intelligence, and swift, nimble and sustainable execution are the real secrets to success online. /rr (who has done it a few times, badly.) Chris Hiester wrote: Hi Dan, I'm curious if you have a business plan? Since you're asking a developer to make an investment in this venture, can you demonstrate how enough subscriptions will be generated to pay the developer's fee? How does your idea compare to existing casting applications? Is there a market for this service? What differentiates your offering? Thanks. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for someone to build a simple web application for me on a profit share basis. It will need to be able to store and display both headshots and resumes for actors, with the administration of the site being done by the individuals themselves. For example, when an actor completes a job, they are able to update it to their resume online. A bonus would be if the resume could be printed off as a nicely laid out pdf. Here's the deal with the money. You name your regular fee, and take 50% of all subscriptions until your fee is paid in full, after that point, you will receive an agreed percentage of subscriptions for a year afterwards. Percentages will then be renegotiated after that point. The project is for a new initiative for theatre, film and television in London, New York, Los Angeles and Paris. I have worked as an Actors Agent in the West End for 7 years, as well as working on the recent revival of Les Liaisons Dangereuses, directed by Ice Princess director Tim Fywell and produced by Oscar Winning producer David Parfitt, and on Bat Boy - The Musical with The Hours producer, Michael Alden. Please submit your resumes as soon as possible to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) . Many thanks, Dan Blumenau ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2739 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
I hate MS Word
So, when I go after a consulting-type job, I write up a cover letter in MS word. That's all fine and dandy. I have a general template I use for cover letters, and mix and match them depending on the job requirements. Last February I changed my resume. I went into the templates and changed the resume link. Apparently word changed the text, but not the link, so the actual link was still pointing to the old resume. Apparently the link was being retained when cut and pasted into Eudora (my mail program). So, for the past 6 months I've been sending out links to an old copy of my resume. I discovered this today when I deleted the old copy of my resume off my site and someone commented on the broken link. At some point, I put together different flavors of my resume. Due to this, I also sent a resume that concentrated on Flash experience to someone looking for a tech writer. Solution: Tools --- Autocorrect -- Autoformat as you type -- Deselect Internet and Network Paths with Hyperlinks I wonder if that has hurt my job searching -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2735 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Methods of contact
Recruiters are [sometimes] slime. Have you had contact with this recruiter through other means, or was this his first contact w/ you? Apparently I must have given my work number out to some recruiters (Back when I worked for someone else). I was less smart then. After I left there, someone called up to ask for me. He no longer works here. Oh, can I speak to his replacement. In a big company, I doubt that would raise eyebrows. But, in the small company it did. The call got routed to the development head (AKA my ex-boss). The theory is, of course, that the person who replaced me probably has similar qualifications, and might be suitable for the job they are trying to fill. At 11:13 AM 7/8/2005, you wrote: I was just curious how many times people end up getting contacted by recruiters via methods you never have given out. My specific question is based around a recruiter calling me at work about a job here in town. I know for a fact I have never given that phone number to a recruiter, I actually could count on one hand how many people/places outside of work I have given the number to. Did not dawn on me during the phone call to ask how they got it, did email the person though asking them but never got a response. -- Aaron Rouse http://www.happyhacker.com/ -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2728 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Does this seem really low?
At 12:00 AM 7/6/2005, you wrote: I don't know... Back when I was just learning things I was thinking I would rather get paid nothing and learn a new computer skill then do some mindless job like working at Dunkin Donuts. Back then, yes. Today, no. I've been doing web stuff for 9 years. That experience is worth more than $10 an hour. If I were in college or unskilled, the deal might appeal to me. -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2726 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Contracts for work
I'm jumping in late, but... At 10:26 AM 7/2/2005, you wrote: It's not normal in my experience. What are some of the escape clauses and where do you live? This is what I find to be bothersome: 3.2. Payments. SSA shall remit payment to Contractor when the monies are received from SSAâs customer and on receipt of all properly submitted invoices, unless otherwise agreed upon in writing in Section 7 of the Order. The Contractor shall not be entitled to payment to the extent that the client refuses to pay SSA for the services of the Contractorâs employees because of unsatisfactory performance. So what they're saying is if our client doesn't like your work and decides not to pay us, we're not paying you, and we're not going to try and do anything about it. I don't find it especially surprising. I don't know if it's common. I don't consider it a good contract, This is extremely common in subcontracting situations. I've lost jobs because I've refused to sign such contracts. Other things I've seen, which are less offensive are: We can terminate at any time. Once we notify you of termination, we are not responsible for paying you anything for work done after that notification Any work not done up to standard will be redone at your own cost In the above situation, you might ask for a non-refundable advance. -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2703 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Contracts for work
I'd walk if you were unable to negotiate that out. I know that hard to do, though. Alternatives to the situation are: 1) Ask for a non-refundable advance (I mentioned that below). From your perspective the bigger the better. Giving monthly billing, I might ask for two weeks up-front. Advance is creditable to the last invoice of the project. 2) Ask if their client is willing to co-sign the contract. What you're really looking for is someone to sue in case you don't get paid. Talk to a lawyer in this case to make sure you are covered. Of course, spelling errors in the contract might be a major red flag, but it depends on the type of errors. I found that sometimes Lawyer speak confuses both spell checker and grammar checker. At 01:42 PM 7/3/2005, you wrote: Yes, all that's in there too.. Not to mention there are tons of spelling errors.. not that I'm so good at spelling also but you'd think they would at least run a spell checker on a contract. Mark Holm I'm jumping in late, but... At 10:26 AM 7/2/2005, you wrote: This is extremely common in subcontracting situations. I've lost jobs because I've refused to sign such contracts. Other things I've seen, which are less offensive are: We can terminate at any time. Once we notify you of termination, we are not responsible for paying you anything for work done after that notification Any work not done up to standard will be redone at your own cost In the above situation, you might ask for a non-refundable advance. -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2706 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Phone interviews
I'm coming into this one a little late too. First off, I would consider it extremely unprofessional for someone to miss any scheduled call w/o notification. Second off, it happens to me all the time with clients and recruiters. Sometimes I have a hard time getting people to commit to a time. For example, I suggested to a recruiter-person that we speak at 10 on Tuesday. His response was I have a morning meeting and won't be available until the afternoon. I'm sure he has other things to do, and sitting around all afternoon waiting for me to call is not practical. (I know its not practical for me). In particular, I find these type of exchanges very common, especially with recruiters. I suggest a time, and they just say no w/o suggesting a new time. It's frustrating, because how do I schedule around that? What is also semi-common is that they miss meetings. I schedule something (say for 10 on Tuesday) and the client and we decide to talk (say, at 10 on Tuesday). If they say they will call me, I wait until 5 after and call them. Otherwise, I'll call them immediately at 10 (or our scheduled time). They aren't available, probably because they got busy on something else. They'll call back whenever they have a free moment (As if I were sitting there waiting for their call). Because of this, sometimes it will take 2-3 days to get in touch w/ the client. Why do I put up with this? Well, I believe that things like this happen due to disorganization on the part of the client or recruiter. Generally, I get more work from the disorganized people. I think there is a major benefit (to them) that I am organized and (in some cases) can help them organize. At 11:04 AM 6/30/2005, you wrote: Is it common now for a company to say they will call for a phone interview but not give a time. Then not call on the day they say they would. 2 days later I get an email saying it has been reschedule for another day with no clue to the time? In the past all phone interview I've had were for specific days/time. This seems really unprofessional to me and hard to take serious. Is this the norm now? TIA Mark Holm -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2707 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Does this seem really low?
Details were in the link. It was marked as a telecommuting position, however I believe that a specified requirement was Located in the US or Canada, so technically there would be no competition from off-shore programmers. In Canada is this more reasonable? At 02:44 PM 7/3/2005, you wrote: $10 an hour for part time / consultant flash work. Must be flexible enough to provide between 20-60 hours a week. Must know Object Oriented Programming in Flash. You also have to provide all your own software. I read through this job post twice. Am I missing something obvious? Not to bring up the obvious, but is the job on-site? If not, you're competing with (and they're hoping to attract) off-shore programmers, whose wages may be in line with a much lower cost of living. Dave Merrill -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2710 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
People with certifications get paid less
Interesting read: http://www.computerworld.com/careertopics/careers/labor/story/0,10801,102324,00.html http://www.computerworld.com/careertopics/careers/training/story/0,10801,102394,00.html http://www.computerworld.com/careertopics/careers/skills/story/0,10801,102564,00.html?source=NLT_CARnid=102564 -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2685 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: People with certifications get paid less
Been a while since I read it, but as near as I remember, no mention. The second article is a commentary on the first article. And the third article is a commentary on the commentary. At 10:43 AM 6/21/2005, you wrote: I just glanced at the first article but do any of them mention if there is any relation between certified workers and job security? On 6/21/05, Jeffry Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting read: http://www.computerworld.com/careertopics/careers/labor/story/0,10801,102324,00.html http://www.computerworld.com/careertopics/careers/training/story/0,10801,102394,00.html http://www.computerworld.com/careertopics/careers/skills/story/0,10801,102564,00.html?source=NLT_CARnid=102564 -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2687 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: People with certifications get paid less
On another list, someone pointed out to me that my subject line was not necessarily correct. The statistics talk about the percentage of raises, not actual salary. It is entirely possible that certified people still make higher salaries, perhaps at start. At 02:46 PM 6/21/2005, you wrote: interesting reads. J On 6/21/05, Jeffry Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Been a while since I read it, but as near as I remember, no mention. The second article is a commentary on the first article. And the third article is a commentary on the commentary. At 10:43 AM 6/21/2005, you wrote: I just glanced at the first article but do any of them mention if there is any relation between certified workers and job security? On 6/21/05, Jeffry Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting read: http://www.computerworld.com/careertopics/careers/labor/story/0,10801,102324,00.html http://www.computerworld.com/careertopics/careers/training/story/0,10801,102394,00.html http://www.computerworld.com/careertopics/careers/skills/story/0,10801,102564,00.html?source=NLT_CARnid=102564 -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2689 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: www.proveit.com
I took that one once and had a similar reaction to it. My response was to try to contact ProveIt and sell them my services as a CF expert and tech writer to fix their test. I was never able to get a response, though. At 04:53 PM 6/15/2005, you wrote: I just took a CFMX 6.1 skill test from http://www.proveit.com/ and let me say that I was VERY disappointed. Yes, it was the standard 'memory' over skill but it was even worse than that. There was one question which had 4 correct answers and the only difference was your own personal style of programming. This seems to be the test used by head hunters when evaluating CF people and I'm REALLY not happy about it. I believe that a real test written by real people and edited by a real technical editor is needed for those who are clueless of ColdFusion and need a standard placement test. -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2677 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Typing test for programming?
I've had to do all those things. Although, you could argue that with the use of IDEs (Dreamweaver, for example) that I write very little Straight Code. Still, despite the need for documentation and written communication I would not use a typing test to judge a programmer, because I think there are more important things. At 03:36 PM 6/2/2005, you wrote: So none of you programmers ever need to write documentation for your applications? You never need to right a memo or an email? Never need to right anything other than straight code? -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2662 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Typing test for programming?
One more thought on the documentation thing Writing user documentation (or an article, or a book) is a very different skill than being able to type. If a person can type 100 words a minute while composing at the same time, I'd be very impressed. At 03:36 PM 6/2/2005, you wrote: So none of you programmers ever need to write documentation for your applications? You never need to right a memo or an email? Never need to right anything other than straight code? -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2663 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Typing test for programming?
I got 93 words per minute with no errors on the non-Java practice test. 430 characters per minute. However, they used variation on Quick Brown fox jumped over the lazy dogs, which is pretty common in such tests (since it uses all letters of the alphabet). In the Java applet test, I was @ 70+ w/ 3 errors. I remember using a program called Typing Tutor ( Of course, that would have been late 80s ). A quick web search on typing tutor brings up numerous things. At 11:16 AM 6/1/2005, you wrote: I don't know about where to send you to learn, but you can test yourself for free here: http://www.typingcertification.com/ I did just plain awful. 23WPM and 8 errors on my first try. Ugh. When you find that software, let me know. I obviously need it! Ray Mark Holm wrote: HI, I'm applying for a position. I have to take a typing speed test.. this is the 1st position I've ever applied for that requested this. Is this common? My typing speed sucks..well because I never learned to touch type..but it hasn't hindered my work in the past. I have never had to type somebody else words..so I don't see the relivance to doing programming. Can anybody suggest a good and quick way to increase my typing speed in a few days? TIA Mark Holm ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2641 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Typing test for programming?
Could have been, I don't really remember. Standard testing was a Blue Screen with white letters. Fairly nondescript by todays standards. At 11:55 AM 6/1/2005, you wrote: Mavis Beacon? Jeffry Houser wrote: I got 93 words per minute with no errors on the non-Java practice test. 430 characters per minute. However, they used variation on Quick Brown fox jumped over the lazy dogs, which is pretty common in such tests (since it uses all letters of the alphabet). In the Java applet test, I was @ 70+ w/ 3 errors. I remember using a program called Typing Tutor ( Of course, that would have been late 80s ). A quick web search on typing tutor brings up numerous things. At 11:16 AM 6/1/2005, you wrote: I don't know about where to send you to learn, but you can test yourself for free here: http://www.typingcertification.com/ I did just plain awful. 23WPM and 8 errors on my first try. Ugh. When you find that software, let me know. I obviously need it! Ray Mark Holm wrote: HI, I'm applying for a position. I have to take a typing speed test.. this is the 1st position I've ever applied for that requested this. Is this common? My typing speed sucks..well because I never learned to touch type..but it hasn't hindered my work in the past. I have never had to type somebody else words..so I don't see the relivance to doing programming. Can anybody suggest a good and quick way to increase my typing speed in a few days? TIA Mark Holm ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2644 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Typing test for programming?
I'm reminded of the time when my Mother's company was looking for a person to type business card info their contact management system. They decided to name the position Database Administrator and the job ad went out w/ that title in it. Of course, if that were the situation here, I assume it would have come up before the point where you are taking tests to prove yourself. At 11:12 AM 6/1/2005, you wrote: HI, I'm applying for a position. I have to take a typing speed test.. this is the 1st position I've ever applied for that requested this. Is this common? My typing speed sucks..well because I never learned to touch type..but it hasn't hindered my work in the past. I have never had to type somebody else words..so I don't see the relivance to doing programming. Can anybody suggest a good and quick way to increase my typing speed in a few days? TIA Mark Holm -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2645 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: What makes a programmer look low level
At 10:39 PM 5/9/2005, you wrote: Not all documentation is good; in fact, most is bad (in my experience.) In my experience, most is non-existent. But, I've never had a problem with documentation that is there. And I still have a hard time imagining a time where comments make it hard to follow the logic of code, no matter how poorly written the documentation is. -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2587 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: What makes a programmer look low level
At 01:25 PM 5/9/2005, you wrote: How about we look at what makes a programmer look low level and work our way up. Two things that come right to mind are: 1. Improper use of pound signs in evaluation zones 2. Improper usage of IF clauses (not using short circuited Boolean evaluation) A few things that bug me: Non-descriptive variable names. X is a lot less descriptive than CurrentAuthor or AuthorIndex for example. Not scoping variables. Both, in regular templates (Is this a form variable, a URL variable, a local variable, etc.. ) and in Functions / CFCs (where improper scoping is more likely to have adverse side affects). Breaking encapsulation In CFCs (or custom tags or UDFs) by referencing shared scope variable (application, session, request, etc.. ). In databases, not defining relationships or keys. This one really bugs me. No documentation. One thing that looks amateur (but may not be) is code formatting. I think indenting code blocks makes them easier to read. -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2535 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: What makes a programmer look low level
At 03:13 PM 5/9/2005, you wrote: At 01:25 PM 5/9/2005, you wrote: How about we look at what makes a programmer look low level and work our way up. Two things that come right to mind are: 1. Improper use of pound signs in evaluation zones 2. Improper usage of IF clauses (not using short circuited Boolean evaluation) A few things that bug me: Non-descriptive variable names. X is a lot less descriptive than CurrentAuthor or AuthorIndex for example. Can I use X as a loop index? I do that a lot. :) Sometimes it makes debugging harder to do down the line. But, it is fairly common. I prefer to use more descriptive names if at all possible. Breaking encapsulation In CFCs (or custom tags or UDFs) by referencing shared scope variable (application, session, request, etc.. ). Does that include when the shared scope variables are part of a wholistic framework used to develop the application? If I have a well-structured set of function libraries in the request scope is it bad form for one function in these libraries to reference another function in these libraries from the request scope? I'll call this a gray area. To properly encapsulate, this would be wrong. However, within the context of an application and the framework it's probably okay. -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2545 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: What makes a programmer look low level
Code encapsulation is CS101 concept. If someone is not understanding encapsulation, then they are a novice programmer. Whether they are a novice CF Developer or not may be open to interpretation, since many CF Developers are not programmers by trade. At 03:50 PM 5/9/2005, you wrote: I wouldn't say that not scoping variables in CFCs or breaking encapsulation by scoping variables in CFCs are traits of beginer developers. The fact that a developer is using CFCs at all (unless they're using them for all the wrong reasons) is a sign that they're not a novice CF Developer. You know, I've heard various Macromedia personel state that somewhere in the neighborhood of 80% of CFMX applications aren't using CFCs at all. Of course, someone who's not scoping variables properly in their CFCs obviously has some improvements to make, but the fact that they're using them indicates that they're already started down the right path. ~Simon Simon Horwith CIO, AboutWeb - http://www.aboutweb.com Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor Blog - http://www.horwith.com Jeffry Houser wrote: At 01:25 PM 5/9/2005, you wrote: How about we look at what makes a programmer look low level and work our way up. Two things that come right to mind are: 1. Improper use of pound signs in evaluation zones 2. Improper usage of IF clauses (not using short circuited Boolean evaluation) A few things that bug me: Non-descriptive variable names. X is a lot less descriptive than CurrentAuthor or AuthorIndex for example. Not scoping variables. Both, in regular templates (Is this a form variable, a URL variable, a local variable, etc.. ) and in Functions / CFCs (where improper scoping is more likely to have adverse side affects). Breaking encapsulation In CFCs (or custom tags or UDFs) by referencing shared scope variable (application, session, request, etc.. ). In databases, not defining relationships or keys. This one really bugs me. No documentation. One thing that looks amateur (but may not be) is code formatting. I think indenting code blocks makes them easier to read. -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2560 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: What makes a programmer look low level
When you say Structure are you talking about code formatting, or something different? My impression is that you are referring to code formatting however structure could mean different things, so... I'd rather see comments than formatted code. I can read unformatted code, or format it as I'm reading it. If by structure, you mean a well-thought out architected application that makes use of CFCs / custom tags / UDFs to encapsulate functionality and data As long as the application architecture was documented, I may not complain about the lack of excessive comments within in the code (although I'd still prefer they were there). I'd rather be told what the code does w/o having to figure out. At 04:52 PM 5/9/2005, you wrote: Is it just me, or do the comments other developers leave throughout their code mostly get in the way of just reading the raw code? Having read through all kinds of existing code, I much prefer to have everything scoped and the code arranged in a consistent, logical format for readability. I'd rather see structure than comments, basically. So, if the code is difficult to read because of how its structured, rather than because of what it does, that would be an indicator of a beginner (or an expert job-security guru.) If the structure of the code is logical, most experienced developers should be able to follow along and understand right off the bat. Comments should be sparse, terse and contain obscure information (not easily seen by parsing through the lines) as an indicator for an advanced developer. Louis Mezo LogicSynthesis Tel: 240.498.8951 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.logicsynthesis.com -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2573 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: What makes a programmer look low level
Good documentation should show you how it does work. I find it hard to imagine a point where code documentation detracts from code readability, which is what your original complaint was. At 05:43 PM 5/9/2005, you wrote: Both, but mostly code formatting. The architecture, if applied to framework properly, can make it that much more easy to pick everything up at a glance. But for our purposes here, lets just say formatting. The problem with referring to documentation that tells you what the code or app does is that it may not have been applied as you think. If I'm doing something with an app, I want to be sure that I'm doing it with the way it actually does work as opposed to how I think it should work. Being able to refer to good documentation is always nice as an option, but is no substitute for running through the lines and clearly seeing what everything does and how its being done. -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 5:07 PM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: RE: What makes a programmer look low level When you say Structure are you talking about code formatting, or something different? My impression is that you are referring to code formatting however structure could mean different things, so... I'd rather see comments than formatted code. I can read unformatted code, or format it as I'm reading it. If by structure, you mean a well-thought out architected application that makes use of CFCs / custom tags / UDFs to encapsulate functionality and data As long as the application architecture was documented, I may not complain about the lack of excessive comments within in the code (although I'd still prefer they were there). I'd rather be told what the code does w/o having to figure out. At 04:52 PM 5/9/2005, you wrote: Is it just me, or do the comments other developers leave throughout their code mostly get in the way of just reading the raw code? Having read through all kinds of existing code, I much prefer to have everything scoped and the code arranged in a consistent, logical format for readability. I'd rather see structure than comments, basically. So, if the code is difficult to read because of how its structured, rather than because of what it does, that would be an indicator of a beginner (or an expert job-security guru.) If the structure of the code is logical, most experienced developers should be able to follow along and understand right off the bat. Comments should be sparse, terse and contain obscure information (not easily seen by parsing through the lines) as an indicator for an advanced developer. Louis Mezo LogicSynthesis Tel: 240.498.8951 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.logicsynthesis.com -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2582 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Where are all the mid-level CF developers?
I have not heard any comparisons between OO and Procedural programming in terms of performance. But, that said I would not expect the amount of resources needed to differ greatly between well-organized procedural code vs well organized OO code. However, most of the CF code out there is just a whole lot of mish-mash. Considering that any given application spends most of its life in maintenance mode, I think anything you can do to ease maintenance would be of high importance. At 05:05 PM 4/29/2005, you wrote: Isn't one of the drawbacks of OO architecture that it tends to use more resources? Isn't it true that people are willing to make that sacrifice to make more manageable code? -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 4:51 PM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: Where are all the mid-level CF developers? As I've seen a LOT of CF code in my life, I have to agree. CF is too easy. It allows someone to get away with murder and it'll still work. That's why I'm really happy for the push in the CF world towards OO. Not that it should be followed religiously, but just learning it will force people to rethink their code. I'm also happy that I'm stuck on limited hardware. Too often people are on quad gigahertz machines with gigabytes of ram. This allows them to write poor code and not worry about performance or cleanliness. I'm on a 650mhz with 640 meg of ram. House of Fusion HAS to be written tight. I think everyone should be forced to write at least one project on inferior hardware just to force them to think of what they're doing. I think everyone should be FORCED to read a book on coding methodologies and design at least once a year. I think everyone should be FORCED to put their code up for review so others can pick it apart. Make the developer want to do it the best they can. at the risk of being publicly yelled at, I'll also say that in my experience, the quality of work of most CF Developers isn't deserving of a high salary. That's not to say that there aren't Java developers who write poor code, but Java pretty much forces you to use good coding techniques moreso than CF. CF makes it easy to write bad code. That's not a bad thing, unless people choose to take the easy route and write bad code (whch many do). There's no reason why a CF developer that's building complex enterprise applications shouldn't be earning as much as a java developer building complex enterprise applications, provided they're both competent. To be honest, most Java developers are more competent with specific parts of java rather than all of java - there are too many APIs and core classes to master all of them. An expert CF Developer is really worth more than an expert java developer in my opinion because they have complete mastery of their environment as opposed to mastery of part and competence in the rest. Just an observation I've had (and I've worked with A LOT of Java developers). ~Simon Simon Horwith CIO, AboutWeb - http://www.aboutweb.com Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor Blog - http://www.horwith.com Daniel Kang wrote: If the CF developer does all thing (database design, application design, coding, testing, etc), how much is he/she going to be paid in, let's say, downtown NY? Are we understood that 50K in downtown NY is for CF developers who are doing only coding??? Daniel On 4/29/05, Simon Horwith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they don't always get paid less but more often than not, they do. This is probably because the majority of the tasks performed by CF Developers are the kinds of things that don't require you to be a competent architect, programmer, or even tester. ~Simon Simon Horwith CIO, AboutWeb - http://www.aboutweb.com Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor Blog - http://www.horwith.com Daniel Kang wrote: The fundamental question is why CF developers get paid less than others?? Perhaps, I need to switch to the Java arena! Daniel On 4/29/05, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if I wanted to pay $60-70k I could easily hire a very senior developers (which seem to be easier to find too!). A mid level J2EE developer makes 100K+ easy in SF where the cost of living is less than in NY... where do you think all the CF developers went? I am a senior developer and I find 60K rather insulting - Fast food restaurant managers make more than that. If you can get a senior developer for 60K I'd say grab him/her. (PS not to start an up roar - look at the cost of living in your area before you start demanding higher salary) -- ~Blog~ http://www.robrohan.com ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~ http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~open source xslt IDE~
RE: From Across The Atlantic
And the northeast. Stick to the mid-east for CF work. At 12:49 PM 4/26/2005, you wrote: Seems to me that the most opportunities for CF right now are on the east coast, especially working for government agencies. The south is another hot area, but the west and southwest are slim currently. -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:16 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: From Across The Atlantic Hello all, I'm self employeed in the UK. Like most people here, a trip to America is always on my mind. What do you think the prospects would be for someone coming over to the US to work as a CFer on a contract basis? I'm by no means under worked at the moment, but I like the idea of combining a holiday with work. Does anyone have any experience of upping roots for a foreign land? How did it work out? I haven't looked at the legal side of things, just looking for some thoughts. Thanks. Ade -- ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2428 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Developer's Exchange (was Re: which one of these things is not like the other...)
I'm confused... when you say Developer's Exchange what exactly are you referring to? Normally, I would have assumed the Macromedia Developer's Exchange, but it appears not. At 01:19 PM 4/11/2005, you wrote: Thier forums are pretty nice. THe nice part is if you participatre enough you ge tthe premium account free. I think I had to be awarded something like 5000 points a month and I got my account for free. Its very easy to get that if you are proficient in Coldfusion perl and java. I could ussually get the points in Coldfusion questions alone. Adam H On Apr 9, 2005 4:27 PM, I-Lin Kuo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually another great resource is Developers Exchange...There (atleast were) some very good people on there to help people out. I used to spend most my free time on there prior to finding here, I like this better no loggins and through email ect. The thing of about DevX How are their forums? I get their email newsletters all the time and they're pretty good. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2411 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Developer's Exchange (was Re: which one of these things is not like the other...)
I understand now. ;) Thanks everyone. At 02:11 PM 4/11/2005, you wrote: I was wrong when I said developers exchangeI meant Experts Exchange it was my mistake from the begining :( Adam H On Apr 11, 2005 2:09 PM, Aaron Rouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is a specific site, I tried some random searches on google before replying earlier. However as luck would have it, I can not find the thing when I actually want to find it. Here is what I thought it was in reference to, now that I found it maybe I am wrong since it is experts exchange http://www.experts-exchange.com/ On Apr 11, 2005 1:04 PM, Jeffry Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A generic reference, or a reference to a specific one? At 01:54 PM 4/11/2005, you wrote: I believe it is in reference to a question/answer site online for technical related issues. It used to always be one of the first links from google when I would be searching on a specific thing. On Apr 11, 2005 12:37 PM, Jeffry Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm confused... when you say Developer's Exchange what exactly are you referring to? Normally, I would have assumed the Macromedia Developer's Exchange, but it appears not. At 01:19 PM 4/11/2005, you wrote: Thier forums are pretty nice. THe nice part is if you participatre enough you ge tthe premium account free. I think I had to be awarded something like 5000 points a month and I got my account for free. Its very easy to get that if you are proficient in Coldfusion perl and java. I could ussually get the points in Coldfusion questions alone. Adam H On Apr 9, 2005 4:27 PM, I-Lin Kuo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually another great resource is Developers Exchange...There (atleast were) some very good people on there to help people out. I used to spend most my free time on there prior to finding here, I like this better no loggins and through email ect. The thing of about DevX How are their forums? I get their email newsletters all the time and they're pretty good. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2418 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
How to Find CF Jobs
Ben Forta brought up some interesting facts at one of the panels at Powered By Detroit. He has it on good word, from one of the major recruiting firms in the US (paraphrased) that when they are looking for ColdFusion developer's they don't look for ColdFusion developers. They leave CF off the job description completely. They look for Java developers, under the assumption they can learn CF in a day or so. It may explain, in part, the perception (Reality) that there are less CF jobs than other technologies. He also said Your inability to find a job is not our problem. Although that sounds a bit heartless, I do agree with the sentiment. He followed that up with a slightly more optimistic assertion that keep yourself dutifully employed, you need to know more than just ColdFusion. I agree with that. This email does not contain any direct quotes, its all paraphrased based on my understanding. -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2420 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: need coldfusion splst sr level-with cascade bob ross 201 569 2822 to 100k
I wouldn't have guessed specialist, so thank you for clarifying (everyone). I strongly recommend posting this to the cf-jobs list. (Instead of the cf-jobs-talk list) since you'll reach a wider audience of job seekers. Best of luck. At 10:47 PM 3/29/2005, you wrote: yes jeffrey cascading style sheets -splst=specialist pls help --- Jeffry Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That has to be the shortest job post I've ever read, although I don't think I understand all the code. What is splst? Senior Level, with Cascading Style (sheets?) At 10:14 PM 3/29/2005, you wrote: need coldfusion splst sr level-with cascade style-urgent-bob ross 201 569 2822-central nj-80-100k-urgent -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2353 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: best it staffing firms in atlanta, ga
My older brother keeps saying We'll all be millionaires, inflation will take care of that. Of course, if a trip to McDonalds is $100, having a million won't mean much. Having equity in a house is nice, but you can't really cash in unless you are moving to a place w/ a lower cost of living. My stomach just churned at the thought of spending $100 at McDonalds. At 05:18 PM 3/30/2005, you wrote: shite! Now where di I put my personal time machine...;) On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:06:46 -0800 (GMT-08:00), Christopher Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: San Diego has to be better weather, but housing must be out of sight! Yep...highest in the nation, when income is taken into account. On an individual level, though, it totally depends on when you bought. I purchased a new home in 1994 in what was to soon become one of the most sought after neighborhoods in inland North San Diego County. The school ended up Top 10 in the state, and everybody wanted in! In 10 years, I realized 250%. I'm sittin' on nearly $1M of equity now. When I get the hell out of here and move to SE Arizona, I'm gonna be able to buy an obscene amount of land, and put a really nice Santa Fe style home on it. San Diego CAN be a VERY nice place to live and raise a family. -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2376 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Non Disclosure Agreements
I'll usually accept such a clause, as long as it is specific to the clients immediate customer list. The last one of these I signed had a clause like that which extended a year+ into the past. I was able to negotiate that out. At 10:02 AM 3/29/2005, you wrote: In addition to combining together traditional Agreements, also look out for the non-compete clause with long duration, like one or more years. Then, after getting paid for say a couple of week's worth of work, the contract terminates for whatever reason, and you can't enter into a real business agreement with the client without their written consent. -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:53 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: Non Disclosure Agreements IP means Intellectual property, right? As far as I'm concerned, my mind and ideas are the most important asset to my consulting practice. Signing that over is something I wouldn't do. I think I have agreed to IP terms that restrict it to the development in question. If they are hiring me to build widgets, and want all my ideas that relate specifically to those widgets, I'm usually fine with that (depending on the wording). At 08:40 AM 3/29/2005, you wrote: I suppose its what's in the NDA that matters... where have worked before they wanted us to sign contracts which included NDA and IP agreements... I wouldnt sign them, not because of the contract or NDA (as these seemed fairly straightforward) it was the IP one that I wouldnt touch... they were to own all rights to anything i'd done, did and would do, be it job related or not... but as the contract stated that signing it meant you'd signed the other two documents I couldn't On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 03:27:37 -0500, Fred T. Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never actually worked for a programming shop that didn't require one. To me at least its actually an assumed job requirement. Of course lately it seems that NDA's now have traditional Employment Agreements combined together, (those are the ones that tend to sound like your selling your soul and signing in blood). Fred On March 28, 2005 04:41 pm, Cameron Childress wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:09:18 -0500, Jeffry Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a recent post on cf-jobs: Anyone who refuses to work under a Non-Disclosure Agreement need not apply. Taken totally out of context, I'd usually translate soemthing like this as Our company is run by a buncha stodgy CPAs and Lawyers. If you like so much red tape that it's impossible to get anything done, come work for us. Of course, with context it could mean something entirely different to me. There are several very valid reasons for this to be a requirement for a job. -Cameron ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2337 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: need coldfusion splst sr level-with cascade bob ross 201 569 2822 to 100k
That has to be the shortest job post I've ever read, although I don't think I understand all the code. What is splst? Senior Level, with Cascading Style (sheets?) At 10:14 PM 3/29/2005, you wrote: need coldfusion splst sr level-with cascade style-urgent-bob ross 201 569 2822-central nj-80-100k-urgent -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2345 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: interview questions
I hear people say that a lot. I really don't know if I agree. Languages come and go, but the concepts behind the languages and good programming do not really change. If you learn the Conncept, you can easily learn new languages. At 12:52 PM 3/24/2005, you wrote: Exactly. We're in a field where things change and change rapidly. I fully expect to have to learn new skills every few years just to keep up. That person is slashing his own throat with that attitude. larry -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2323 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: interview questions
I would agree with that. I was responding more to the first sentence than the rest. People say that we are in a field where things change rapidly. I really don't think that's the case. Syntax (languages) change, as does hardware changes, but the underlying concepts have not. Unfortunately most schools appear to teach to a language and most jobs hire for the language without taking into account general programming skill. At 01:17 PM 3/24/2005, you wrote: Guess it depends, I could see how learning a new language could be called learning a new skill. On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:07:21 -0500, Jeffry Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hear people say that a lot. I really don't know if I agree. Languages come and go, but the concepts behind the languages and good programming do not really change. If you learn the Conncept, you can easily learn new languages. At 12:52 PM 3/24/2005, you wrote: Exactly. We're in a field where things change and change rapidly. I fully expect to have to learn new skills every few years just to keep up. That person is slashing his own throat with that attitude. larry -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2326 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: interview questions
At 02:18 PM 3/24/2005, you wrote: snip that's the case. Syntax (languages) change, as does hardware changes, but the underlying concepts have not. Unfortunately most schools appear to I'm not so sure that's true. While the fundamentals of programming -- if-then, for loop, etc. -- dont' change much from language to language. Concepts like design patterns and refactoring have vastly changed the way I do programming, Learning about any new concepts may change the way I do programming. Every time I learn something new, it can affect the way I do development. However, my knowledge / learning of the existence of an approach does not mean it did not exist before. At a high level, there are two main approaches to application development in use today: Procedural and Object Oriented. Neither paradigm is new. I'm willing to accept that we (as a computer industry) know more about best practices or how to approach problems than we did 10 or 20 years ago. Design Patterns and other such things are coming about as a way to solve common development problems. However, they are really applications of the development approach. Time tested solutions do not come into existence and change quickly. -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2328 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Salary change when rolling permanent
I can't blame you for that. It is hard on the job seeker. How often do we get to negotiate a new job? Maybe once every 3-5 years. How often does an HR person negotiate a position? Probably a few times a week. At 09:21 AM 2/18/2005, you wrote: Well, I had just finished working a tech support job for a year to help make ends meet while looking for a CF job, so I wasn't in a mood to argue :) - Original Message - From: Jeffry Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Jobs-Talk cf-jobs-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 8:08 PM Subject: Re: Salary change when rolling permanent Of course you could have probably gotten more... Never throw out your best offer first. First rule of negotiating. :-) At 05:08 PM 2/17/2005, you wrote: Yes. Definitely let them make you an offer. When I was brought on permanently at my current job, they made me an offer first. Turns out the offer was a 28% increase in what I was already making. They asked if that was acceptable and I asked where I needed to sign. :) ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2289 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Salary change when rolling permanent
I chose those numbers because 100 is easy to break up into percentages. All that said, the amount you make really comes down to how well you sell yourself to the client / employer / recruiter. A lot of the things I've done (Write books, speak at conferences, write articles, etc.. ) help me convince the client that I can get the job done, and that is often worth bucks in the compensation department. Of course, I've lost just as many projects because I'm too expensive. At 03:50 PM 2/17/2005, you wrote: Holy Cow!!! I need to reconsider my situation if this is even a high average. I've been developing CF for about 7 years and I only dream of getting the lowest figure you listed. If you want to assume that the contractor is getting paid twice what you are (If you get paid $50 an hour, they are collecting $100). I don't think it is unreasonable to expect $65-75 an hour as a full-time employee. -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com -- When did Reality Become TV ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2276 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain
At 11:27 AM 1/21/2005, you wrote: But back to the thread, I think I'm going to start mentoring programmers from my community in CF and send them to some of these jobs. They have well over 10 years software experience so picking up CF should be easy. Add in my knowledge of it and they'll have the equivalent of 3 years in as many months. Maybe get a mentor's cut and not have to work full time. Oh, that sounds good. Maybe even get a company to sponsor me for a bit while I get them some top people. Getting better and better. Start your own firm. If you can place 10 people for $50 an hour, pay them $40 an hour, then you're making $100 an hour just making sure that they are on track. I know it's easier said than done. For the record, there are currently 4 CF-related positions in Connecticut on Dice.com. More than I've ever seen at one time. -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com My Energetic Acoustic Rock Band: http://www.farcryfly.com -- When did Reality Become TV ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2200 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Seattle, WA position
I got the last one personally too. I saw the list post before I received it. At 05:07 PM 1/20/2005, you wrote: I'll ask as that last one came directly to me. Yes, I'm kind of know for getting people for jobs, but Hey, Mike, I have gotten two direct emails from headhunters offering jobs the past couple of days. Are they just searching the archives and sucking out our email addresses? Not that I am complaining, if I was getting fired tomorrow, I would love to have them. Just wondering. Ray -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com My Energetic Acoustic Rock Band: http://www.farcryfly.com -- When did Reality Become TV ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2181 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain
At 06:03 PM 1/20/2005, you wrote: I've recently been canned in a merger due to reasons pertaining to not getting up to speed with DotNet quick enough (company will no longer be using Cold Fusion, which I am at Advanced level of development), and stated they can find expert level DotNet developers overseas (where majority of programming has gone the past two years) far cheaper than the American programmer. Kinda un-patriotic, but for a lot of captialistic companies it seems to be the way things are going. Anyway ... I start a new IT related job next week at a 7% increase in pay. That is fantastic. Congrats on the new job. What I am curious about is have your lost your job recently to: 1) cheap foreigner labor? I own my own company, so theoretically I'll never lose a job. On the other hand, if I don't have clients I'll be in rough shape. I have lost 1 contract to an off-shore vendor. I have lost 1 contract to a bid so low that I believe it may have been an off-shore vendor. On the other hand, I was the competitor trying to steal away client A, so the job could have been bid so low as to get me out of the picture (it worked). I've lost at least two contracts based on price in the past 6 months. In both cases, I suspect the competitors were not off-shore. 2) company alienating Cold Fusion because they've gotten the bug w/regard to all the buzzwords circling around w/regard to DotNet (not knocking DotNet ... is pretty cool - in one year with small number of projects I've become quite good, but not expert level). There are so few companies around here using CF... Lastly - even though I have a new job, which will be with small non-political company versus large political company, I'm a little depressed. I think my depression stems from the fact that I worked my ass off for the company that canned me (60-80 weeks at times ... many all-nighters), have varying skill-sets w/regard to server management, programming, outsourcing management, hardware/software t-shooting. This ever happen to you? Sort of. It is expected by a company that you're going to bust your butt to do what needs to be done. It is unfortunate. I actually burnt out and left that company. I didn't know I was burnt out until I looked back in retrospect. The lead developer at one of my clients was not born / raised in America (although he has been here for quite a while now). He said he is amazed the whole system doesn't full apart, since the workers have no loyalty to the company and the company has no loyalty to the workers. Yes, he was generalizing, but I think that is true to form. -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com My Energetic Acoustic Rock Band: http://www.farcryfly.com -- When did Reality Become TV ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2185 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: software developers vs web-site developers?
I still don't get it. At 11:42 AM 1/18/2005, you wrote: LOL...he was being a smarta$$ Maureen...get it object oriented graphical designer...objects are graphics..haha ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com - Original Message - From: Maureen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Jobs-Talk cf-jobs-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 8:32 AM Subject: Re: software developers vs web-site developers? Not sure what that means either. I've been programming for over 30 years, developing both software and applications. I moved to web development in 1995 after breaking my back and using the download to learn web programming, of various sorts. These days, I'm not sure what I call my skill set, since I can do any kind of programming required. Truth be told, however, my preference is pure database design and programming. On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:22:54 -0600, Brandon Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am an object oriented graphical developer. -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 8:21 PM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: software developers vs web-site developers? Web only, as in being built by tools specifically designed for the web, such as JAVA, Cold Fusion and .NET as opposed to non-web programming languages than the average web developer would not know? Millions of them. I suspect the original job posting was looking for someone whose skill set extended beyond web applications. On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:14:19 -0500, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In this day and age, how many 'websites' are web only? Web developers usually only do websites. Software developers are experienced in creating applications for use beyond the web, or integrating web sites with other applications. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2175 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: software developers vs web-site developers?
At 12:49 PM 1/18/2005, you wrote: Man, I think we all need to step back and look at all this with a little more humor and with less business acumen. I mean any IT professional's title has some overlap with others. Just like any profession, really. Such as marketing and sales down to receptionists. -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com My Energetic Acoustic Rock Band: http://www.farcryfly.com -- When did Reality Become TV ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2179 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: REALLY annoyed with this site
I had to look that up: http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?String=exactAcronym=PEBKACFind=Find At 11:01 PM 12/7/2004, you wrote: PEBKAC? -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com My Energetic Acoustic Rock Band: http://www.farcryfly.com -- When did Reality Become TV ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - RUWebby http://www.ruwebby.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2134 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: rate situation advice advice[long]
Recruiters are notorious for not discussing price.:-)For consulting stuff, I'm sure their mark-up is 100%, if not 200%. Are you sure the other recruiters are offering the same job?Did the alternate recruiter release the company name / contact name?Are you willing to walk away?Do you have the ability to talk to the client-person?( Even if you did, it may be considered unprofessional). I think the only risk you run by Switching recruiters is that the company won't want you any more.You aren't contracted by the company and you aren't contracted by the recruiter.The company, however, may be contracted by the recruiter.. and whomever they hire, the first recruiter to submit the resume gets paid (Theoretically).I worked for a company put in this situation. The company hired someone they found via networking, however a recruiter had also submitted his resume.Company refused to pay recruiter.(I have no idea what eventually happened) You could play hardball and contact the client and say Hey, look, I'm being [explicitive] on Price by X company; but you can hire me through Y company.You risk upsetting recruiter 1 and the company, though. If you can afford to walk away from the contract; I would do it.Then write follow-up notes to the recruiter (Thanks for this opportunity, I'm sorry I had to turn it down blahblahblah) and the company-folk(I was very excited about this opportunity and working with your team, however could not come to contract terms with [recruiter].I hope we can keep options open, and perhaps work together again in the future). If you're lucky, the company people will write you back thus opening the door for an alternate arrangement.If the recruiters are paying you $40, you could probably ask for $60 and save the company tons of money by working directly with them (no middleman). At 08:51 PM 10/8/2004, you wrote: Pardon the long email, but here's my situation and I'd appreciate any advice: Wednesday: - I was contacted by a recruiting company about an urgentposition and I sent them my resume. They asked me for a rate, and then told me that they couldn't go above 80% of that rate. Thursday: -I get called and they tell me that they've submitted my resume to the client and that the client would like to interview me by phone on Friday morning. Friday(today): - I check on dice.com and there are two other companies which have posted the same job at the exact same rate of $40/hour. This is higher than the rate I had intiially asked for. - Nonetheless, I put on a pleasant face and talk to the client by phone and things go well. They tell me that they'll make a decision on Monday. - A few hours later the recruiting company calls me and tells me that the client has decided to hire me. That means the interview went really well. We talk about the paperwork and the urinalysis I need to take. - I then talk to the recruiter and ask him if there are any middlemen between him and the client. He tells me that he is a tier one supplier. This is when I tell him about the two other companies and their rates. I ask him about the rate he is billing the client and he refuses to tell me a dollar amount. He explains $40 rate away by saying that as recruiting companies get close to a submission deadline, they sometimes will post a job with a higher rate in order to solicit resumes and then negotiate down the rate. I maintain a pleasant demeanor and I don't press him further. I tell him I'll email him the links. - He calls me back 15 minutes later and says that his boss has okayed a rate increase of $1.63 an hour, still much below my initial asking rate. - I actually call the two other companies to check if their rates are genuine. They both say yes. I talk to one of them for about 10 minutes to discuss whether I can change representing companies after being accepted by the client. He says he could do it, but I would be the one taking the risk. This is the answer I expect, and I'm inclined to trust that the rate is genuine because of this honest answer. - I then email the recruiter the two dice links, letting him know that I called both recruiters and checked the rates, and asked that he call me to give a better explanation of the rate discrepancy. As this was around 5:00pm Friday, I'm expecting an answer on Monday. Throughout these discussions I've tried to be both professional and pleasant, so the tension level has remained low. Since the client has accepted me and I've not signed a contract yet, this is the time when I have the most negotiating leverage. Now normally if I've agreed orally on a rate I'd stick to it, but I feel that they negotiated a steep discount based on a false representation of themselves Thanks for reading. -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711| Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com My Energetic Acoustic Rock Band: http://www.farcryfly.com
Re: Google your business name lately?
I just Googled your company name and only found a handful of posts that you were looking for work.I found no reviews good or bad.Who and/or what did you see?I was also unaware that Logic Synthesis had any flagship products. Interestingly enough Googling on DotComIt (my company) came up w/ one other company by the same name and 1 very close. At 07:46 AM 9/9/2004, you wrote: This is why I don't post my resume to websites. I've been watching the search results returned when I run my business name on Google for some time now, and it looks like the smear fairy has been busy yet again. Do they really think that fabricating some small amount of negative buzz will keep word from hitting the street about a flagship software product that's maybe just a little ahead of it's time (but not for a lack of good timing?) Please. Go find a rock and crawl back under it. It's usually one, maybe two people who engage in this kind of thing, and they usually don't stay limited to targeting just one person. Their strategy is to publicize negative information, consisting of some mix of fact and hearsay, while hiding their identity. Their interest is only self-serving. My strategy is to openly prove that I can accomplish something positive, and I can back up everything I say. Which is more marketable? We'll see who's strategy pays off in the long run, assuming they're still around. Thanks, Louis Mezo LogicSynthesis Tel: 240.498.8951 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.logicsynthesis.com -- Son, did you crack admin at http://www.logicsynthesis.com yet? -- [http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=t:11Todays Threads] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:1998This Message] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11Subscription] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=7.4.11Fast Unsubscribe] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/signin/User Settings] [https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?amount=item_name=House+of+Fusionbusiness=donations%40houseoffusion.comundefined_quantity=cmd=_xclickDonations and Support] -- http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=36 [] -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- AIM: Reboog711| Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com Recording Music: http://www.fcfstudios.com Original Energetic Acoustic Rock: http://www.farcryfly.com -- When did Reality Become TV [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Google your business name lately?
I had tried: LogicSynthesis Logic Synthesis logisynth logisynth.com logicsynthesis.com Before sending the previous email, and found nothing (except for I am available posts. I reviewed your site again.Do you really have the name Secure E-Commerce Engine trademarked?Very cool! At 08:11 AM 9/9/2004, you wrote: Try all of the business name combinations. LogicSynthesis has only one software product, so you do the math. Thanks, Louis Mezo LogicSynthesis Tel: 240.498.8951 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.logicsynthesis.com -- Son, did you crack admin at http://www.logicsynthesis.com yet? -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 8:05 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: Google your business name lately? I just Googled your company name and only found a handful of posts that you were looking for work.I found no reviews good or bad.Who and/or what did you see?I was also unaware that Logic Synthesis had any flagship products. Interestingly enough Googling on DotComIt (my company) came up w/ one other company by the same name and 1 very close. At 07:46 AM 9/9/2004, you wrote: This is why I don't post my resume to websites. I've been watching the search results returned when I run my business name on Google for some time now, and it looks like the smear fairy has been busy yet again. Do they really think that fabricating some small amount of negative buzz will keep word from hitting the street about a flagship software product that's maybe just a little ahead of it's time (but not for a lack of good timing?) Please. Go find a rock and crawl back under it. It's usually one, maybe two people who engage in this kind of thing, and they usually don't stay limited to targeting just one person. Their strategy is to publicize negative information, consisting of some mix of fact and hearsay, while hiding their identity. Their interest is only self-serving. My strategy is to openly prove that I can accomplish something positive, and I can back up everything I say. Which is more marketable? We'll see who's strategy pays off in the long run, assuming they're still around. Thanks, Louis Mezo LogicSynthesis Tel: 240.498.8951 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.logicsynthesis.com -- Son, did you crack admin at http://www.logicsynthesis.com yet? -- [http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=t:11Todays Threads] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:1998This Message] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11Subscription] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=7.4.11Fast Unsubscribe] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/signin/User Settings] [https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?amount=item_name=House+of+Fusionb usiness=donations%40houseoffusion.comundefined_quantity=cmd=_xclickDonati ons and Support] -- http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=36 [] -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- AIM: Reboog711| Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com Recording Music: http://www.fcfstudios.com Original Energetic Acoustic Rock: http://www.farcryfly.com -- When did Reality Become TV -- [http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=t:11Todays Threads] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2000This Message] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11Subscription] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=7.4.11Fast Unsubscribe] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/signin/User Settings] [https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?amount=item_name=House+of+Fusionbusiness=donations%40houseoffusion.comundefined_quantity=cmd=_xclickDonations and Support] -- http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=35 [] -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- AIM: Reboog711| Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com Recording Music: http://www.fcfstudios.com Original Energetic Acoustic Rock: http://www.farcryfly.com -- When did Reality Become TV [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Google your business name lately?
They being Google? Since I can't find the negative links you are referring to, I believe I am missing something in this conversation. At 08:39 AM 9/9/2004, you wrote: The links I see now, and have been seeing for a long time, are selectively negative, like they are trying to drive away business. Thanks, Louis Mezo LogicSynthesis Tel: 240.498.8951 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.logicsynthesis.com -- Son, did you crack admin at http://www.logicsynthesis.com yet? -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 8:25 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: RE: Google your business name lately? I had tried: LogicSynthesis Logic Synthesis logisynth logisynth.com logicsynthesis.com Before sending the previous email, and found nothing (except for I am available posts. I reviewed your site again.Do you really have the name Secure E-Commerce Engine trademarked?Very cool! At 08:11 AM 9/9/2004, you wrote: Try all of the business name combinations. LogicSynthesis has only one software product, so you do the math. Thanks, Louis Mezo LogicSynthesis Tel: 240.498.8951 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.logicsynthesis.com -- Son, did you crack admin at http://www.logicsynthesis.com yet? -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 8:05 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: Google your business name lately? I just Googled your company name and only found a handful of posts that you were looking for work.I found no reviews good or bad.Who and/or what did you see?I was also unaware that Logic Synthesis had any flagship products. Interestingly enough Googling on DotComIt (my company) came up w/ one other company by the same name and 1 very close. At 07:46 AM 9/9/2004, you wrote: This is why I don't post my resume to websites. I've been watching the search results returned when I run my business name on Google for some time now, and it looks like the smear fairy has been busy yet again. Do they really think that fabricating some small amount of negative buzz will keep word from hitting the street about a flagship software product that's maybe just a little ahead of it's time (but not for a lack of good timing?) Please. Go find a rock and crawl back under it. It's usually one, maybe two people who engage in this kind of thing, and they usually don't stay limited to targeting just one person. Their strategy is to publicize negative information, consisting of some mix of fact and hearsay, while hiding their identity. Their interest is only self-serving. My strategy is to openly prove that I can accomplish something positive, and I can back up everything I say. Which is more marketable? We'll see who's strategy pays off in the long run, assuming they're still around. Thanks, Louis Mezo LogicSynthesis Tel: 240.498.8951 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.logicsynthesis.com -- Son, did you crack admin at http://www.logicsynthesis.com yet? -- [http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=t:11Todays Threads] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:1998This Message] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11Subscription] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=7.4.11Fast Unsubscribe] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/signin/User Settings] [https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?amount=item_name=House+of+Fusionb usiness=donations%40houseoffusion.comundefined_quantity=cmd=_xclickDonat i ons and Support] -- http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=36 [] -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- AIM: Reboog711| Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com Recording Music: http://www.fcfstudios.com Original Energetic Acoustic Rock: http://www.farcryfly.com -- When did Reality Become TV -- [http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=t:11Todays Threads] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2000This Message] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11Subscription] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=7.4.11Fast Unsubscribe] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/signin/User Settings] [https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?amount=item_name=House+of+Fusionb usiness=donations%40houseoffusion.comundefined_quantity=cmd=_xclickDonati ons and Support] -- http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=35 [] -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- AIM: Reboog711| Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com Recording Music: http://www.fcfstudios.com Original Energetic Acoustic Rock: http://www.farcryfly.com -- When did Reality Become TV -- [http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=t:11Todays Threads] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2002This Message] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11Subscription
RE: Google your business name lately?
I had followed a sampling of the links and found nothing.I just went back and read the rest of them. On the macromedia thread http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14threadid=873839 someone had posted an error they found on one of your sites.You responded.However, I didn't see anything negative. At 09:26 AM 9/9/2004, you wrote: After you follow all the links and read all the material, you don't see anything negative in total? Thanks, Louis Mezo LogicSynthesis Tel: 240.498.8951 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.logicsynthesis.com -- Son, did you crack admin at http://www.logicsynthesis.com yet? -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 9:21 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: RE: Google your business name lately? http://www.google.com/search?hl=enie=UTF-8q=logisynth A Houseoffusion threads regarding on-site work. On Macromedia ColdFusion Support forum thread where someone needed help and you responded Your elance profile A link to your web site Nothing that I would deem negative. At 09:06 AM 9/9/2004, you wrote: Run a search on logisynth and follow all the links. Thanks, Louis Mezo LogicSynthesis Tel: 240.498.8951 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.logicsynthesis.com -- Son, did you crack admin at http://www.logicsynthesis.com yet? -Original Message- From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 8:59 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: Google your business name lately? I would be interested. I too couldn't find it? Adam H On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 08:57:00 -0400, Louis Mezo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh really? Should I send you the PDF of what I'm seeing? Thanks, Louis Mezo LogicSynthesis Tel: 240.498.8951 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.logicsynthesis.com -- [http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=t:11Todays Threads] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2006This Message] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11Subscription] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=7.4.11Fast Unsubscribe] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/signin/User Settings] [https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?amount=item_name=House+of+Fusionb usiness=donations%40houseoffusion.comundefined_quantity=cmd=_xclickDonati ons and Support] -- http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=36 [] -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- AIM: Reboog711| Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com Recording Music: http://www.fcfstudios.com Original Energetic Acoustic Rock: http://www.farcryfly.com -- When did Reality Become TV -- [http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=t:11Todays Threads] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2008This Message] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11Subscription] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=7.4.11Fast Unsubscribe] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/signin/User Settings] [https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?amount=item_name=House+of+Fusionbusiness=donations%40houseoffusion.comundefined_quantity=cmd=_xclickDonations and Support] -- http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=37 [] -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- AIM: Reboog711| Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com Recording Music: http://www.fcfstudios.com Original Energetic Acoustic Rock: http://www.farcryfly.com -- When did Reality Become TV [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Senior CF/StudioMX2004 Developer available
Or just go to cf-community, where the threads that don't start in an already devolved state go there quickly. At 10:59 AM 9/8/2004, you wrote: How about a CF-Jerry-Springer list? After a any given thread devolves into troll fodder, it could be bumped there... Thanks, Louis Mezo LogicSynthesis Tel: 240.498.8951 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.logicsynthesis.com -Original Message- From: Geoffrey N Epstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 10:43 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: RE: Senior CF/StudioMX2004 Developer available I've been receiving all of the messages in this thread and at this point it's clear that there is a need for a bit more grace and tolerance. Some folks appear quite quick to cut and the end result is a pretty poor interchange. It would be be a great improvement if we could keep adverse personal commentary for another forum and improve the useful information content so that it's actually worth reading the email. No one is perfect, but it would be great to keep the focus on relevant content. Geoffrey N. Epstein RGB Software Inc 67 Arlington St. Suite 2 Newton, MA 02458 USA Web:http://www.rgbsoftware.com Phone: (617)969-2336 FAX:(617)332-2072 -- [http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=t:11Todays Threads] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:1977This Message] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11Subscription] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=7.4.11Fast Unsubscribe] [http://www.houseoffusion.com/signin/User Settings] [https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?amount=item_name=House+of+Fusionbusiness=donations%40houseoffusion.comundefined_quantity=cmd=_xclickDonations and Support] -- http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=39 [] -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- AIM: Reboog711| Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com Recording Music: http://www.fcfstudios.com Original Energetic Acoustic Rock: http://www.farcryfly.com -- When did Reality Become TV [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]