Re: [CF-metadata] Atmospheric Physics Discovery

2014-07-02 Thread Karl Taylor
Dear Roy, 1. Would a typical atmospheric physicist searching for sound velocity in air data be happy to receive hits from data sets containing air density, but not sound velocity per se? I don't think so. As I recall the speed of sound in a gas is approximately proportional to the square

Re: [CF-metadata] mole_concentration_of_air_in_air?

2014-07-02 Thread Steve Emmerson
Andreas, Your quantity is a specific instance of the generic quantity "amount-of-substance concentration" (SI unit: "mol/m^3"). Thus, reasonable names for it according to http://physics.nist.gov/Pubs/SP811/sec08.html would be "amount-of-air concentration", "air-molecules concentration", or "molecu

Re: [CF-metadata] altitude_above_surface?

2014-07-02 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Andreas > I have another question: How would I express "altitude (of atmosphere > layer) above surface" in terms of CF standard names? I agree with Alison that height is the word we use in standard names for the vertical distance above the surface. So I think the standard_name you need is j

Re: [CF-metadata] mole_concentration_of_air_in_air? (alison.pamm...@stfc.ac.uk)

2014-07-02 Thread Schultz, Martin
Dear all, I like the term "number_concentration_of_molecules_in_air" (m-3). Thanks, Alison! Best regards, Martin > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 11:40:04 + > From: > To: > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] mole_concentration_of_air_in_air? > Message-ID: > <014539ac4976be4490a36

Re: [CF-metadata] cloud amounts

2014-07-02 Thread Hedley, Mark
please may I obtain confirmation that this change is now amenable and will be included in the next release of the standard names vocabulary? Explicitly: I would like to formally propose that the description text for standard names: low_type_cloud_area_fraction medium_type_cloud_area_fraction

Re: [CF-metadata] altitude_above_surface?

2014-07-02 Thread Andreas Hilboll
Dear Alison, thanks for your quick reply! I'll go with your suggestion of height_of_atmosphere_layer_above_surface (m) and use this as long_name attribute (as I'm using Iris which is very strict and doesn't accept standard_names which are not in the official standard name table). Cheers,

Re: [CF-metadata] altitude_above_surface?

2014-07-02 Thread alison.pamment
Dear Andreas, In CF, "height" is defined with reference to the earth's surface: "Height is the vertical distance above the surface." ("Altitude" is defined as "the (geometric) height above the geoid, which is the reference geopotential surface. The geoid is similar to mean sea level.") Hence

Re: [CF-metadata] mole_concentration_of_air_in_air?

2014-07-02 Thread alison.pamment
Dear Andreas, This might sound like a silly question, but what do you mean by "air"? Do you mean just the mixture of gases or do you mean everything that might be found in a random sample of air, including aerosol particles and precipitation? If you mean strictly the gases, then I would sugges

[CF-metadata] altitude_above_surface?

2014-07-02 Thread Andreas Hilboll
Hi guys, I have another question: How would I express "altitude (of atmosphere layer) above surface" in terms of CF standard names? Thanks, -- Andreas. ___ CF-metadata mailing list CF-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/

[CF-metadata] mole_concentration_of_air_in_air?

2014-07-02 Thread Andreas Hilboll
Hi guys, I'm wondering how to express the air number density, i.e., the number of air molecules per unit volumne (in mole cm-3), in terms of CF standard names? -- Andreas. ___ CF-metadata mailing list CF-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu

[CF-metadata] Atmospheric Physics Discovery

2014-07-02 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Dear All, Two simple questions that have arisen from the need for atmospheric physics data discovery in SeaDataNet. 1) Would a typical atmospheric physicist searching for sound velocity in air data be happy to receive hits from data sets containing air density, but not sound velocity per