Re: [CF-metadata] Usage of the 'Conventions' attribute (Phil Bentley)

2013-01-31 Thread Schultz, Martin
Hi Phil, while I agree with you that the only clean solution would have to be defined in the netcdf API itself (not in CF), I don't think that groups are what we are looking for here. This namespace thing is entirely related to attributes, while groups are a variable concept. What would

Re: [CF-metadata] Usage of the 'Conventions' attribute

2013-01-29 Thread David Hassell
Hello Nan, et al., Any of these special characters, other than the '_', would probably cause problems for code that deals with NetCDF files. The '.' is used in Matlab for access to structures, and the '@' is used to identify a variable as a function handle. There are work-arounds, but they

Re: [CF-metadata] Usage of the 'Conventions' attribute

2013-01-29 Thread David Hassell
Hello Dennis It should be noted however that dot in particular causes problems for accessing remote datasets through DAP because the dot character is used in DAP constraints to specify fields inside DAP Sequences or Structures or Grids. I'm afraid that I'm not familiar with DAP. Do you mean

Re: [CF-metadata] Usage of the 'Conventions' attribute

2013-01-29 Thread Nan Galbraith
There is no interaction with the syntax of the processing language, surely? I checked to see if the Matlab NetCDF built-in routines would allow attributes with dots in them, and they do; both global and variable level atts can contain 'cf.'. My code, though, has to be able to write files for

Re: [CF-metadata] Usage of the 'Conventions' attribute

2013-01-29 Thread Bentley, Philip
Hi Nan, I agree with Roy that CF should be the default namespace in a CF compliant file... What does that mean? Until we agree on the meaning and mechanism of namespace-handling within CF-compliant files and software, I fear that such statements do not provide much guidance at the

Re: [CF-metadata] Usage of the 'Conventions' attribute (Nan Galbraith)

2013-01-28 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
. From: CF-metadata [cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Schultz, Martin [m.schu...@fz-juelich.de] Sent: 24 January 2013 18:54 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Usage of the 'Conventions' attribute (Nan Galbraith) Dear all

Re: [CF-metadata] Usage of the 'Conventions' attribute

2013-01-28 Thread Bentley, Philip
Roy et al., Martin's comments on namespace highlight a concern I identified whilst doing the research for the SeaDataNet specification. Several communities have added large numbers of both global and variable attributes with no indication of namespace. Not only does this make it

Re: [CF-metadata] Usage of the 'Conventions' attribute

2013-01-28 Thread Dennis Heimbigner
With respect to netcdf (at least the C version), it is the case that these characters can appear unescaped: _.@+- It should be noted however that dot in particular causes problems for accessing remote datasets through DAP because the dot character is used in DAP constraints to specify fields

Re: [CF-metadata] Usage of the 'Conventions' attribute

2013-01-28 Thread Nan Galbraith
Any of these special characters, other than the '_', would probably cause problems for code that deals with NetCDF files. The '.' is used in Matlab for access to structures, and the '@' is used to identify a variable as a function handle. There are work-arounds, but they likely wouldn't add

Re: [CF-metadata] Usage of the 'Conventions' attribute

2013-01-28 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
[ngalbra...@whoi.edu] Sent: 28 January 2013 20:25 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Usage of the 'Conventions' attribute Any of these special characters, other than the '_', would probably cause problems for code that deals with NetCDF files. The '.' is used in Matlab

[CF-metadata] Usage of the 'Conventions' attribute

2013-01-23 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Dear All, Currently, the 'Conventions' attribute is restricted to be a global attribute. There is currently a requirement to label multiple QC flag variables following different conventions with their source convention and having the 'Conventions' attribute as a variable attribute for these

Re: [CF-metadata] Usage of the 'Conventions' attribute

2013-01-23 Thread Derrick Snowden
I'm currently working with a group looking at profiling glider date a files from multiple countries. We've identified a similar need to differentiate qc tests on a per variable basis. I support the idea and the problem and I suppose one solution is the conventions attribute. Regards, Derrick

Re: [CF-metadata] Usage of the 'Conventions' attribute

2013-01-23 Thread Nan Galbraith
Hi Roy - As far as I know, there is nothing to prevent you from having Conventions attributes other than the global one. Only the global attribute is part of CF, but you could certainly implement similar syntax in Conventions attributes for multiple variables. Or are you looking for more of a

Re: [CF-metadata] Usage of the 'Conventions' attribute

2013-01-23 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
to Thursday. E-mail response on other days is possible but not guaranteed! -Original Message- From: CF-metadata [mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Nan Galbraith Sent: 23 January 2013 15:16 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Usage of the 'Conventions