RE: Okay, go here to see what I'm talking about...(cfserver not running correctly)

2004-08-23 Thread Paul Vernon
Sadly, barefoot2003 is just a folder under wwwroot. Which is why I REALLY don't understand why it won't work. It's JUST a folder under root! In that case, check the CFIDE virtual directory anyway I suspect that it will have an application configured and it will not have the correct cfm

Re: RandRange ain't so Random

2004-08-23 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
cfset randNUM = #RandRange(1,26)# Seems weighted towards the numbers in the middle more. So, how can I make this a little more random? How'd you test that theory? ... How large was your sample? The sample size needs to be in the tens to hundreds of thousands at least to be sure you're not

Re: Okay, go here to see what I'm talking about...(cfserver not running correctly)

2004-08-23 Thread Jeff Small
In that case, check the CFIDE virtual directory anyway I suspect that it will have an application configured and it will not have the correct cfm mappings If that is the case, your best bet is to use the remove button as you dont need an IIS application to be configured for CFIDE

Re: RandRange ain't so Random

2004-08-23 Thread Ben Doom
Running a quick test, I'm finding (on CF 6.1) that after runing randomize(timeformat(now(), ss)) (which, btw, is not a great sample set) that I routinely get a reasonable even sample. That is, for a run of 1, randramge(1,25) returns each number at least 350-ish times and no more than

Re: RandRange ain't so Random

2004-08-23 Thread Joe Rinehart
Waiting for a phone call, I ran a test pulling a random number between 1 and 26 inclusive 100,000 times, and the distribution across the range was very near even.Here's code: cfset size = 26 / cfset count = ArrayNew(1) / cfloop from=1 to=#size# index=i cfset count[i] = 0 / /cfloop cfloop from=1

RE: RandRange ain't so Random

2004-08-23 Thread Samuel R. Neff
You're better off not calling randomize() at all.If you don't call it, then CF will default to the calling randomize() with the current time in milliseconds.However, due to argument types you can't actually pass that level of precision to randomize() yourself. To get truly random numbers across

RE: Okay, go here to see what I'm talking about...(cfserver not running correctly)

2004-08-23 Thread Ken Ferguson
What happens if you create a new folder under cfide/administrator/test and add the file index.cfm with the line cfdump var=#server#? What do you get then? --Ferg _ From: Jeff Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 2:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Okay, go here to

RE: Okay, go here to see what I'm talking about...(cfserver not running correctly)

2004-08-23 Thread Ken Ferguson
Oh yeah, you need an application.cfm in that folder too!!! _ From: Ken Ferguson Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 2:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Okay, go here to see what I'm talking about...(cfserver not running correctly) What happens if you create a new folder under

SOT: Dreamweaver - sharing common snippets with a team?

2004-08-23 Thread Ian Skinner
Is this possible.I have done my best to search for an answer and I'm beginning to think this is a bit of useful functionality missing from Dreamweaver, at least in version 6.1. I found this tantalizing quote on the Macromedia website. quote Sharing snippets You can share code snippets with

OT: Where are opened attachments saved

2004-08-23 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Hey All, If you open an attachment (say Word doc) in Outlook Express (latest version on XP Pro)...make some changes and save itwhere does that file get saved?This is of course opening an attachement and NOT doing a save as. So: -open attachment -make changes -save -close file Does it still

Re: OT: Where are opened attachments saved

2004-08-23 Thread Ray Champagne
I use Eudora, but I would say right click on the attachment name in Outlook, choose 'save as' and see where what directory pops up.It should be saved in that one (probably some kind of name such as attch or something). Ray At 03:59 PM 8/23/2004, you wrote: Hey All, If you open an attachment

RE: Where are opened attachments saved

2004-08-23 Thread Marlon Moyer
It's usually stored in the temporary internet files directory. C:\Documents and Settings\username\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 3:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Where are

CFC design - import keyword

2004-08-23 Thread Nathan Strutz
My co-worker is making a shopping cart, trying to keep it fairly CFC oriented, not necessarily OO to the core, just reliant on CFCs in places where they would seem useful. Anyway, we got into a discussion about his cfscript library, which he turned into a CFC for portability. Now he'd like to

Re: Okay, go here to see what I'm talking about...(cfserver not running correctly)

2004-08-23 Thread Jeff Small
Oh yeah, you need an application.cfm in that folder too!!! What happens if you create a new folder under cfide/administrator/test and add the file index.cfm with the line cfdump var=#server#? What do you get then? --Ferg Okay! *THAT* was interesting! Here's what happened. When we put

RE: Dreamweaver - sharing common snippets with a team?

2004-08-23 Thread Dave Watts
Is this possible.I have done my best to search for an answer and I'm beginning to think this is a bit of useful functionality missing from Dreamweaver, at least in version 6.1. You can do this, kind of, using Library items. Library items are specific to a site, so you'd have to have a

SOLVED Re: Where are opened attachments saved

2004-08-23 Thread Bryan Stevenson
It's a bit further down...but thanks Marlon...pressed SEND then found my own stinkin answer...never fails ;-) C:\Documents and Settings\username\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\content.IE5\one of the funny named folders Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce

RE: Okay, go here to see what I'm talking about...(cfserver not r unning correctly)

2004-08-23 Thread Bosky, Dave
Try unplugging the machine, spinning it 360 degrees and plug it up again. Does the trick every time :-) _ From: Jeff Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 4:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Okay, go here to see what I'm talking about...(cfserver not running correctly)

Re: Okay, go here to see what I'm talking about...(cfserver not r unning correctly)

2004-08-23 Thread Bryan Stevenson
LMAOthat's just what my Monday needed ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com [Todays Threads] [This Message]

Re: Okay, go here to see what I'm talking about...(cfserver not r unning correctly)

2004-08-23 Thread Jeff Small
Try unplugging the machine, spinning it 360 degrees and plug it up again. Does the trick every time :-) There's always one in every crowd, isn't there? Boy, you're lucky you're about ten miles away right now...boy, howdy [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast

Re: CFC design - import keyword

2004-08-23 Thread Barney Boisvert
If the methods are static, use CFINVOKE on the component, rather than an instance.If they're not static (or you want to call them non-statically for performance reasons), then I'd instantiate the class in the constructor of each CFC that uses it and keep it around in an instance variable.Depending

OT - SQL Server 2000

2004-08-23 Thread Steve Logan
Since this is going to be considered off topic for this list, it'd be best to reply to me off list unless this sparks an interesting discussion. I've kind of evolved in being the person who sets up the SQL servers for new users as part of my job.I've managed to muddle my way around and get

Re: RandRange ain't so Random

2004-08-23 Thread Ben Doom
Samuel R. Neff wrote: You're better off not calling randomize() at all.If you don't call it, then CF will default to the calling randomize() with the current time in milliseconds.However, due to argument types you can't actually pass that level of precision to randomize() yourself. Okay.I'd

Merant 3.70 ODBC drivers for CFMX

2004-08-23 Thread David Koehler
I need Merant 3.70 ODBC drivers for CFMX. Anyone know a good source? Dave [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

RE: Latest version of HomeSite+?

2004-08-23 Thread Justin Hansen
I believe the current version is 5.5, it comes with Dreamweaver and you can supposedly buy it as a individual product on macromedia.com Justin Hansen Project Manager Uhlig LLC _ From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 2:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Latest

Fusebox Conf interviews 6: Hal Helms FLiP, 10 reasons to go, books

2004-08-23 Thread Michael Smith
In this Fusebox Conference interview I talk with Hal Helms about a bonus Fusebox Lifecycle Process (FLiP) CD that he and Jeff Peters are giving out at the Fusebox conference. I have also heard from some people who are having trouble convincing their bosses to send them to the conference. So I have

RE: Okay, go here to see what I'm talking about...(cfserver not r unning correctly)

2004-08-23 Thread Ken Ferguson
Looks like it's all fixed now. Dave must've been right. Dave, where in the world did you learn that trick??? I've put it up on the DON'T ERASE section of our server room whiteboard. Now, I wonder if spinning on through 720 degrees or just increasing the rotational speed will make the machine run

RE: Latest version of HomeSite+?

2004-08-23 Thread Calvin Ward
HomeSite+ is only available with DWMX, HomeSite 'lite' is available seperately... Calvin -Original Message- From:Justin Hansen Date:8/23/04 4:30 pm To:CF-Talk Subj:RE: Latest version of HomeSite+? I believe the current version is 5.5, it comes with Dreamweaver and you can supposedly

SOLUTION: Re: Okay, go here to see what I'm talking about...(cfserver not r unning correctly)

2004-08-23 Thread Jeff Small
Looks like it's all fixed now. Dave must've been right. Dave, where in the world did you learn that trick??? I've put it up on the DON'T ERASE section of our server room whiteboard. Now, I wonder if spinning on through 720 degrees or just increasing the rotational speed will make the machine

RE: Legal or Not Legal?

2004-08-23 Thread Ken Ferguson
Actually, as I understand it, you have no legal responsibility to even tell the surfer what stats you are collecting. Businesses spell out their privacy policy in order put their potential customers at ease and to get people to feel secure on their site. However, you are free to harvest whatever

Re: Exactly *how* smart are we?

2004-08-23 Thread Will Tomlinson
It would've been easier asking Bruce Lee to enter a karate tournament, or asking Einstein to enter a spelling bee! Sheeesh! [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

RE: SOLUTION: Re: Okay, go here to see what I'm talking about...(cfserver not r unning correctly)

2004-08-23 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG
Jeff, And what was the solution prey tell - or did I miss that? -Mark -Original Message- From: Jeff Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 3:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: SOLUTION: Re: Okay, go here to see what I'm talking about...(cfserver not r unning correctly)

Re: Legal or Not Legal?

2004-08-23 Thread Ben Doom
Matt Blatchley wrote: Any particular reason why you would consider it not a good practice? Well, for one thing, IP != user.For example, if I browse here at work, my IP matches that of 5 other users.If I browse from a dial-up connection, the IP I have today may have been someone else's

cfloginuser not logging in user

2004-08-23 Thread Doug Lineberry
I am setting up our new login process. I am attempting to utilize the CFLOGIN and CFLOGINUSER functions as well as a SECURITY.CFC file to authenticate my user logins. My folder structure is this: Root/Research/Secure/ Includes: application.cfm default.cfm loginform.cfm request_login.cfm

Re: Breadcrumbs - do you fully track users?

2004-08-23 Thread Ewok
under normal circumstances, I usually show links (stepped) back to the home page or main page of the section regardless of how the user got there - Original Message - From: Michael Kear To: CF-Talk Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 10:55 AM Subject: Breadcrumbs - do you fully track users?

Re: CF MX Connector

2004-08-23 Thread Richard Wigfall
Hello Steve, Thank you for your help, however, I received a syntax error in the httpd.conf file when restarting Apache with the recompiled connector: (Cannot load ...mod_jrun.so into server... Undefined symbol: removePathParms) Any ideas where I went wrong, the new recompiled mod_jrun.so was

RE: Breadcrumbs - do you fully track users?

2004-08-23 Thread Taco Fleur
Interesting one Mike, I had a good think about this a while ago and decided that to me bread crumbs are how a user got to where he is, sort of like the back button.. I try to put a You are here which shows the steps form the homepage and then a How you got here which is the bread crumbs.. Taco

Re: cfloginuser not logging in user

2004-08-23 Thread Raymond Camden
It is a known bug that getAuthUser() inside cflogin will return an emptry string. It doesn't work till you leave the cflogin block. -Raymond On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 17:56:53 -0400, Doug Lineberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am setting up our new login process. I am attempting to utilize the CFLOGIN

Queries/Arrays/Structs

2004-08-23 Thread Paul Giesenhagen
I have some Queries that I want to convert a record to either an Array or a Struct (different queries, different requirements). What is the easiest way to Query - Struct and Query - Array I was about to roll through the resultset and create a struct and array .. but I was curious if there is a

WAY OT: Einstein at a Spelling Bee - was Re: Exactly *how* smart are we?

2004-08-23 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
It would've been easier asking Bruce Lee to enter a karate tournament, or asking Einstein to enter a spelling bee! Sheeesh! Bruce maybe... iirc Einstein had lousy spelling... and wasn't real great with math either. I suspect Albert would have found the spelling bee idea silly anyway, given

Re: Queries/Arrays/Structs

2004-08-23 Thread Mark Drew
I have a UDF to make RecordsetToStruct.. never needed arrays much .. but I am sure we could do the same.. contact me offlist and I shall send it to you MD On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 17:20:13 -0500, Paul Giesenhagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have some Queries that I want to convert a record to either

Re: cfloginuser not logging in user

2004-08-23 Thread Doug Lineberry
What do you mean, until I leave the cflogin block?Where else would I need to run cfloginuser from and still have the getAuthUser available to all files and subfolders? It is a known bug that getAuthUser() inside cflogin will return an emptry string. It doesn't work till you leave the cflogin

RE: cfloginuser not logging in user

2004-08-23 Thread Dave Watts
What do you mean, until I leave the cflogin block?Where else would I need to run cfloginuser from and still have the getAuthUser available to all files and subfolders? You would run CFLOGINUSER from within your CFLOGIN block, but the GetAuthUser function would be run anywhere else you like.

URL's with variables

2004-08-23 Thread Ewok
I am just curious to kow if anyone knows first hand of any problems when it comes to using or not using the document name in a url with variables... example: site.com/index.cfm?somevar=value is the same as site.com/?somevar=value I just did an entire site this way and it worked just fine on

Re: Legal or Not Legal?

2004-08-23 Thread Matt Robertson
If you sell the collected sales data to someone else and didn't disclose this in your PP (er... thats Privacy Policy ) you've got a customer service problem (i.e. customers will never do business with you when you get caught).If you do that in certain U.S. industries (mostly related to

Re: WAY OT: Einstein at a Spelling Bee - was Re: Exactly *how* smart are we?

2004-08-23 Thread Ewok
either way... they are both *dead* - Original Message - From: S. Isaac Dealey To: CF-Talk Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 6:25 PM Subject: WAY OT: Einstein at a Spelling Bee - was Re: Exactly *how* smart are we? It would've been easier asking Bruce Lee to enter a karate tournament, or

Re: Queries/Arrays/Structs

2004-08-23 Thread Matt Robertson
Hi Paul, cf_querytostruct http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm#loc=en_usview=sn106viewName=Exchange%20Search%20Detailsauthorid=35342266page=0scrollPos=0subcatid=0snid=sn106itemnumber=0extid=1000687catid=0 Seems like you could just convert the thing manually with less code,

Re: Breadcrumbs - do you fully track users?

2004-08-23 Thread Matt Robertson
Their position based on the menu hierarchy.I don't try to show their actual path.Just got done with a feature session with a client and their primary concern was for a user to get a sense of location/position from the breadcrumb trail.There was no interest in displaying click history.Never heard

Re: cfloginuser not logging in user

2004-08-23 Thread Doug Lineberry
Got it!! That worked perfectly. :)Thanks What do you mean, until I leave the cflogin block?Where else would I need to run cfloginuser from and still have the getAuthUser available to all files and subfolders? You would run CFLOGINUSER from within your CFLOGIN block, but the GetAuthUser

Re: URL's with variables

2004-08-23 Thread joe velez
i think i had a similar problem in older versions of Netscape, maybe THEY (whoever is testing) has netscape, or an older browser? I don't know what else would cause that... [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Re: cfloginuser not logging in user

2004-08-23 Thread Casey C Cook
I thought I read another thread that said the getauthuser() is not defined until you exit cflogin. Thanks, CC x56927 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Re: URL's with variables

2004-08-23 Thread Ewok
The person who set it up knows what he is doing and is also a fellow developer. I'd bet my left one that he was using firefox. Besides, I wouldnt send an app on it's way without some cross browser testing so im all but posotive that that's not it. - Original Message - From: joe velez

URLEncode/URLDecode

2004-08-23 Thread Cutter (CF related)
Still looking for any practical example of using the URLEncode/URLDecode UDF's found on cflib.org. Anybody? The (little) documentation just doesn't cut it... Cutter [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Re: SOLUTION: Re: Okay, go here to see what I'm talking about...(cfserver not r unning correctly)

2004-08-23 Thread Jeff
On 8/23/04 5:25 PM, Mark A. Kruger - CFG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff, And what was the solution prey tell - or did I miss that? -Mark See, that's the funny part...there WASN'T a solution... It...just...started...working. And I'm not about to try and figure out why. Lol... [Todays

Re: Latest version of HomeSite+?

2004-08-23 Thread Jim McAtee
If one has Dreamweaver license can an older version of HomeSite+ (5.1, 5.2) be upgraded to the most recent without installing DreamWeaver? - Original Message - From: Justin Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 2:29 PM Subject: RE: Latest

Mailing list software (Recomendation Pls)

2004-08-23 Thread Mike Porter
Can any one recommend a descent piece of CF mailing list server software? Possible (but not necessary) with integrated content management. Regards, Mike [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Re: URLEncode/URLDecode

2004-08-23 Thread Jordan Michaels
Cutter (CF related) wrote: Still looking for any practical example of using the URLEncode/URLDecode UDF's found on cflib.org. Anybody? The (little) documentation just doesn't cut it... Cutter What kind of an example are you looking for? Just how it's used? We use it a lot for several

Re: URL's with variables

2004-08-23 Thread Nando
I've heard there are problems that arise in certain browsers when you eliminate the document name on the lists here and there. My impression is it can't be done reliably. On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 19:12:19 -0400, Ewok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The person who set it up knows what he is doing and is also

Re: URL's with variables

2004-08-23 Thread Ewok
MM seems to do it rather well. Oh well.. guess im stickin to the old fashioned way - Original Message - From: Nando To: CF-Talk Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 7:56 PM Subject: Re: URL's with variables I've heard there are problems that arise in certain browsers when you eliminate the

CFMX6.1 Waiting for an Available Thread to Run (forever)

2004-08-23 Thread Adrocknaphobia
The system: I have an application in production, peak usage at about 100 concurrent users. (Dual CPU - 1G Ram). The box handles the load like it aint no thang, as the majority of the application and number crunching is going on in Oracle. The JRun instance use the appropriate amount of cpu and

Re: OT: Where are opened attachments saved

2004-08-23 Thread Gel .
As far as I know, they are saved somewhere in the temp directory. So on WinXP that would be in some obscure Documents and Settings/username/../../ directory. If you open the attachment in Word or something that allows you to save, then click Save As you should see the default path. Mine is

RE: CFMX6.1 Waiting for an Available Thread to Run (forever)

2004-08-23 Thread Dave Watts
The problem: Every 1-3 days the system comes to a screeching halt, and eventually throws the all too common JRun Connection errors. CF nor Oracle throw any types of errors to indicate the source of the problem. Have you tried other Oracle JDBC drivers? Oracle provides two different JDBC

Re: CFMX6.1 Waiting for an Available Thread to Run (forever)

2004-08-23 Thread Adrocknaphobia
Yeah, that's actually an solution I'm going to try (forgot to mention it). I'm not aware what war this application was deployed with, but I'm willing to doubt its the out-of-the-box version. I'm going to try and deploy it with my 'current' war that has all the hotfixes and oracle drivers. I just

Re: CFMX6.1 Waiting for an Available Thread to Run (forever)

2004-08-23 Thread Adrocknaphobia
Although I do have a question out of curiosity I have to recheck but im pretty sure I'm set to allow for 10 threads (5 per cpu). However most of the time I count 7 jrpp-xxx in one dump. Although every so often I count 12. What gives? Does this dump only show threads currently in use? From

Has anyone seen this?

2004-08-23 Thread Qasim Rasheed
If you type http:// in the search box on google homepage and press I am feeling lucky, you are directed to Microsoft homepage. Any reasons? [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

RE: Queries/Arrays/Structs

2004-08-23 Thread marlon
CFLib has several functions regarding these type of operations. Original Message Subject: Queries/Arrays/Structs From: Paul Giesenhagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, August 23, 2004 3:20 pm To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have some Queries that I want to convert a record

Re: Has anyone seen this?

2004-08-23 Thread Tony Weeg
if you type http:// in the browser and hit go, you dont go anywhere, but http:///, which doesnt resolve to anything. its almost as if microsoft bought the word from google http:// which is probably completely possible since my company bought some words on there too... it might be a HEFTY price,

RE: Breadcrumbs - do you fully track users?

2004-08-23 Thread Jim Davis
In usability circles the term Breadcrumbs has come to specifically mean the hierarchical listing of a page's parent sections back to the root. Of course this doesn't really jibe with the source of the term Breadcrumbs (Hansel and Gretel for those that don't know) which specifically dealt with a

Re: Has anyone seen this?

2004-08-23 Thread Barney Boisvert
Because for the keyword http, Microsoft's web site is top of the list.Nothing special happening there, exactly the same as any other keyword.Next month it might be AltaVista(they're second on the list righ tnow), but who knows. cheers, barneyb On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:58:41 -0400, Qasim Rasheed

Re: Book Review [ Java for Coldfusion Developers ]

2004-08-23 Thread Daniel Farmer
thanks for your comments guys [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Re: Queries/Arrays/Structs

2004-08-23 Thread Nando
Yes, i use queryRowToStruct() all the time from cflib ... On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 19:13:23 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CFLib has several functions regarding these type of operations. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

Re: URL's with variables

2004-08-23 Thread Hugo Ahlenius
Have you ruled out the web-server? It should (in theory) work in any browser, they are just using a text-based reference to an information source (i.e. url) and shouldn't care how it is typed (note tahat I haven't read the rfc's though...). To see if it is the server, do a request and see what

:grumble, grumble: clients...

2004-08-23 Thread Jeffry Houser
So... I'm dealing with a potential client who wants to hire me as a subcontractor.I think I'm one level removed by the real client. The project was supposed to start two weeks ago, and had a Phase 1 deadline of the 30th (a week from today).With 3 weeks, there would have been no problem meeting

Re: :grumble, grumble: clients...

2004-08-23 Thread Bryan Stevenson
May I welcome you to the clause All deadlines are contingent on required materials being supplied by the client in a timely fashion ;-) I know how obvious it may sound...but the golden rule is clients are stupid and evil.This rule may not really be true...but for the purposes of any kind of

Re: :grumble, grumble: clients...

2004-08-23 Thread Jeffry Houser
At 04:18 PM 8/23/2004, you wrote: May I welcome you to the clause All deadlines are contingent on required materials being supplied by the client in a timely fashion ;-) I've already added something similar to my proposal format.In all reality, I'm pretty amazed I've never had this problem

Re: :grumble, grumble: clients...

2004-08-23 Thread Jeffry Houser
At 05:17 PM 8/23/2004, you wrote: Unfortunately, this client had their own contracts, so we didn't use mine. There is only 1 contract here...ours ;-) That approach appeals to me more every time I have to use another contract. As a sub-contractor, I don't usually get that option, but for the

Re: :grumble, grumble: clients...

2004-08-23 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Yep...if I have to deliver upon completion...they have to pay upon delivery ;-) It sure is tough to be a nice reasonable human being sometimes Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell:

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