Re: ColdFusion: Some People Just Don't Know Any Better

2008-02-06 Thread s. isaac dealey
The problem with that Dave is that even the Enterprise customers won't be able to find developers eventually, if the small business and educational use is left behind. We're already starting to see this developer shortage and eventually companies are going to get tired of having to train

Re: Funny questions in latest CF9 surveys*

2008-02-06 Thread s. isaac dealey
Yeah, they would have a fix alright... our next version will be out in 3 months... $695 for the upgrade that will include several bug fixes. For a fix for google webservice integration its far more likely that Adobe would provide the fix as a hot-fix than roll it into an update with a separate

SOT: top file extensions on the nt

2008-02-06 Thread Azadi Saryev
i am subscribed to google alerts for coldfusion 8 and just received this link to http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com.au/topics/article.asp?DocID=1288818 apart from a somewhat worrying subject of the article (it is actually an excerpt from a book), it contains an interesting googling result -

Re: Secure login system

2008-02-06 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Tuesday 05 Feb 2008, Peterson, Chris wrote: add a captcha to the login screen ... would stop any mass-login attempt A lot of CAPTCHA can be defeated by OCR, even complicated ones can be broken (say) 30% of the time, if the protected service is worth that (like, say, Yahoo) people will do

CFDOCUMENT not working

2008-02-06 Thread Tarek Jubaer
Hi My my site, i used CFDOCUMENT tag to generate a dynamic PDF file and save it to physical location. It used to work properly. Now it is not working at all. The page hangs up when the PDF file generation code is parsed. Can anyone please help me on this issue? thanks in advance.

Re: CFAJAX: Can't pass parameter.

2008-02-06 Thread Cutter (CFRelated)
Use Firebug to watch the request. Those requests should show on your 'Console' tab, and when expanded you can view the 'Post' variables. I'm betting you have a casing issue. JS is picky like that, and I've been caught more than a few times over the years. Steve Cutter Blades Adobe Certified

RE: CF and Accessible PDF generation

2008-02-06 Thread Sandra Clark
Right now any dynamic document generation for PDF will not support the tagged format (which is necessary to make accessible). I've talked to Adobe til I'm blue in the face. Maybe some others saying the same thing will help. Historically, Macromedia used 3rd party libraries to create PDF's via

Re: Funny questions in latest CF9 surveys*

2008-02-06 Thread Aaron Rouse
Yeah, I still remember when they changed the javascript functions that were generated with CFTREE somewhere around the transition from 4.0 to 5.0 That had a pretty big effect on one of our applications because it actually used the functions and now it became unusable with the change they did.

Re: SOT: top file extensions on the nt

2008-02-06 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 06 Feb 2008, Azadi Saryev wrote: HTML 4,960,000,000 You do know you can have CFML templates with .html extensions, right ? Or any other extension, for that matter. It doesn't mean anything. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to interactively disintermediate performance-oriented models on:

Re: ColdFusion: Some People Just Don't Know Any Better

2008-02-06 Thread Judith Dinowitz
Thanks Josh. I hadn't really looked through them recently, though I was thinking specifically about case studies of companies moving to CF from competing technologies like PHP or MS SharePoint. It was my impression (though I could be wrong) that their case studies were generally confined to new

Re: SOT: top file extensions on the nt

2008-02-06 Thread Sonny Savage
I also wonder how a Fusebox site would increment that count? There's only ' index.cfm'. On Feb 6, 2008 8:37 AM, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 06 Feb 2008, Azadi Saryev wrote: HTML 4,960,000,000 You do know you can have CFML templates with .html extensions, right ? Or

Re: SOT: top file extensions on the nt

2008-02-06 Thread David Low
Tom Chiverton wrote: You do know you can have CFML templates with .html extensions, right ? Or any other extension, for that matter. To be fair, that could also be said of any other non-HTML extension in the list. However it also misses out the fact many sites don't use extensions at all,

RE: Anyone using BlazeDS?

2008-02-06 Thread Andy Matthews
Rick... The server I'm thinking of is our staging server. The only time it even has any connections is when one of us is testing out code that's already been developed on our personal machines. I think the only way to know for certain is to just install it. -Original Message- From:

Re: ColdFusion: Some People Just Don't Know Any Better

2008-02-06 Thread Beru
Taken out of the Crayola case study: *Macromedia Products: *Five Macromedia ColdFusion Studio 4.5, 4 Macromedia ColdFusion Enterprise 4.5.1, Macromedia Flash, Dreamweaver, Dreamweaver UltraDev, Fireworks, FreeHand And this is just an example of the content of these case studies! Really, either

Re: File upload

2008-02-06 Thread Claude Schneegans
I check the file name and see if it already exists in the database. If it does, then I return the error. If it doesn't exist, then go and perform the cffile action. This is the way you see it, but not the best and easiest way to do it. This is the way I do it: - upload the file and rename it on

RE: SPAM: Re: ColdFusion: Some People Just Don't Know Any Better

2008-02-06 Thread Andy Matthews
Well it's always possible that Crayola JUST switched away from that. :) -Original Message- From: Beru [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: SPAM: Re: ColdFusion: Some People Just Don't Know Any Better Taken out of the Crayola case

RE: Transact SQL question has me stumped

2008-02-06 Thread Mark Kruger
Dennis... Learn something new everyday. I guess I did not know there was bit operator in CF :) -Original Message- From: Dennis Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Transact SQL question has me stumped Mark, I knew I would

Re: CF and Scheduled Tasks...

2008-02-06 Thread Claude Schneegans
Is there anyway to configure the CF to run a scheduled task every M-W-F at a specified time? Schedule the task for everyday, and have the task check for the day and CFABORT on bad days. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is

RE: Transact SQL question has me stumped

2008-02-06 Thread Mark Kruger
I meant... I didn't know there was a bit operator in MSSQL ... In my defense I'm not feeling well today and I've had a variety of pills of dubious quality and nature. -mk -Original Message- From: Mark Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:47 AM To:

Re: Error on site - Error converting data type varchar to numeric

2008-02-06 Thread Al Everett
I'll wager somebody's description includes a comma. I'll reinforce: use cfqueryparam ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial

CFC, YES OR NO

2008-02-06 Thread Ali
Hi: I am using CF for while now but I have no other programing background. I used Lynda.com video tutorials to learn CF and some other online tutorials like EasyCFM.com. Several days efore I recieved two new CF8 tutorials from Lynda.com(Lynda.com ColdFusion 8 Essential Training | Lynda.com

Re: CFC, YES OR NO

2008-02-06 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 06 Feb 2008, Ali wrote: Maybe because I have no programing background with other languages other than HTML. Ahh. What do you think? I think you need a course on basic object orientated design principles e.g. classes, methods, encapsulation, abstraction, inheritance etc.

Re: CFC, YES OR NO

2008-02-06 Thread gary gilbert
Ali, Definitely stick with it, for more complicated web applications CFC's really do become essential. You can of course build large applications without the use of CFC's as we all did before components came about but it tends to get messy (thats not saying cfc's automatically make things tidy

RE: ColdFusion: Some People Just Don't Know Any Better

2008-02-06 Thread Dave Watts
The problem with that Dave is that even the Enterprise customers won't be able to find developers eventually, if the small business and educational use is left behind. We're already starting to see this developer shortage and eventually companies are going to get tired of having to

RE: CFC, YES OR NO

2008-02-06 Thread Ben Forta
Hi, The answer is a definite yes, you need to learn how to use CFCs. In fact, just as in David Gassner's tutorials, in my own ColdFusion books I introduce CFCs very early, and make them very usable and without adding complexity. You are probably going to get quite a few responses to this

Re: CFC, YES OR NO

2008-02-06 Thread Dominic Watson
Here is a language agnostic tutorial: http://homepages.north.londonmet.ac.uk/~chalkp/proj/ootutor/index.html Having a closer look at that tutorial I think there will certainly be a better one out there! Apologies Dominic -- Blog it up: http://fusion.dominicwatson.co.uk

RE: CFC, YES OR NO

2008-02-06 Thread Mark Fuqua
Benign I'm sure everyone on this list will say yes to learning oop right away. Well, almost everyone. I'll point you instead to productivityenhancement.com where you can download a framework called PLUM. Plum is a framework that uses the best of what coldfusion was designed to be...a quick, easy

Re: CFC, YES OR NO

2008-02-06 Thread Dominic Watson
You can think of cfc's as simply collections of functions grouped in a file by subject. That's certainly a good starting point but I think getting to grips with the concepts of OOP (object oriented programming) before even looking at CFCs is perhaps going to give you a better start. I think

stupid cfscript/javascript question

2008-02-06 Thread Scott Stewart
I’ve completely forgotten how to do this…. I have this script cfscript function show_new(dt) { if(DateDiff(d,dt,Now()) LT 30) { return 'font color=redNew!/font'; }; return ''; } /cfscript I need to call it inside a li tag

RE: stupid cfscript/javascript question

2008-02-06 Thread Dave Watts
I have this script cfscript function show_new(dt) ... I need to call it inside a li tag li style=list-style-type:square; margin-left:-18px; margin-right: 8px; li ...cfoutput#show_new(your_date_variable)#/cfoutput/li Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/

RE: CFC, YES OR NO

2008-02-06 Thread Steve Brownlee
Just to add another voice to the chatter knowing CFCs helps you make it more reusable and manageable This is definitely one benefit of using CFCs. Arguably you can do this without components, but when combined with other tools available to the ColdFusion community, CFCs become the best way

RE: stupid cfscript/javascript question

2008-02-06 Thread Adrian Lynch
Call it inline liMy list itemscript type=text/javascriptmyFunctionCall();/script/li Nothing to do with your problem, but check out jQuery if you want an easier life with JS. Adrian -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart Sent: 06 February 2008 16:43 To: CF-Talk Subject: stupid

RE: stupid cfscript/javascript question

2008-02-06 Thread Andy Matthews
li#show_new(value)#/li -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: stupid cfscript/javascript question I've completely forgotten how to do this.. I have this script cfscript function show_new(dt)

Re: CFC, YES OR NO

2008-02-06 Thread Ali
On Feb 6, 2008 7:26 PM, Ben Forta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, The answer is a definite yes, you need to learn how to use CFCs. In fact, just as in David Gassner's tutorials, in my own ColdFusion books I introduce CFCs very early, and make them very usable and without adding complexity.

Re: stupid cfscript/javascript question

2008-02-06 Thread gary gilbert
li style=list-style-type:square; margin-left:-18px; margin-right: 8px; cfoutput #show_new(dt)# /cfoutput /li -- Gary Gilbert http://www.garyrgilbert.com/blog ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and

Re: converting Word doc to text with cf8 on the fly?

2008-02-06 Thread C S
Has anyone done that? the CFcontent tag is the closest thing pops up, it does some job but still have tons of garbage. If possible I prefer not to use third party bla bla. I do not think there is a way to extract text only from a binary Word document without using a third party component

RE: stupid cfscript/javascript question

2008-02-06 Thread Adrian Lynch
*whistles* I hope no one see my reply :OS *whistles* -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 February 2008 16:49 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: stupid cfscript/javascript question Call it inline liMy list itemscript

Re: CFC, YES OR NO

2008-02-06 Thread Aaron Rouse
I personally think then don't delve into CFCs and OO at the sametime. Nothing says CFCs need to be done in an OO fashion. In the long run though OO is a good thing for any developer to learn. Seems like most books that teach CF do not jump straight into CFCs and OO at the same time although

Re: One more image question..

2008-02-06 Thread C S
Is it possible for Coldfusion to convert these files to be similar enough to overlay them? You could overlay the images using the java image classes. Though I do not know if the transparency will work the way you are expecting.

RE: stupid cfscript/javascript question

2008-02-06 Thread Scott Stewart
Thanks all... Sorry for the brain fart -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (919) 874-6229 (home) (703) 220-2835 (cell) -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:55 AM To:

Re: CFAJAX: Can't pass parameter.

2008-02-06 Thread RobG
Cutter (CFRelated) wrote: Use Firebug to watch the request. Those requests should show on your 'Console' tab, and when expanded you can view the 'Post' variables. I'm betting you have a casing issue. JS is picky like that, and I've been caught more than a few times over the years. Thanks

Re: stupid cfscript/javascript question

2008-02-06 Thread Bruce Sorge
Is that what I smell. I thought the guy in the cube next to me broke wind. :) Bruce Scott Stewart wrote: Thanks all... Sorry for the brain fart ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release

Is the need for multiple CF instances diminishing?

2008-02-06 Thread Steven Wood
Our business is sort of an ASP model where we have a single, main application to which we essentially sell subscriptions to large clients. Over the years, those clients have demanded unique changes to the app that have caused the main code base to split into separate versions. Currently we

RE: Is the need for multiple CF instances diminishing?

2008-02-06 Thread Dave Watts
Currently we run CF multi-server on JRun, so we have an instance for each of our clients. For some reason, we've always found this desirable, though we've never really seen any clear benefits other than being able to maintain separate CFAdmin settings and restart an instance without

RE: Is the need for multiple CF instances diminishing?

2008-02-06 Thread Mark Kruger
Steven, I would say that it is still quite important - especially if you wish to leverage more memory on a larger server. -mark -Original Message- From: Steven Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:12 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Is the need for multiple CF

Re: Is the need for multiple CF instances diminishing?

2008-02-06 Thread Todd Rafferty
I agree with Dave. If customers feel they need control over their servers, then they have that choice. Only other reason for mutli-instance would be mappings / unique custom tags that they didn't want to make global and such. I'm finding that the new mappings that you can do in CF8's

RE: Is the need for multiple CF instances diminishing?

2008-02-06 Thread Mark Kruger
Whoa What about the ability to run your instances with different JVM args and allocate memory and resources specifically? And what about leveraging more than 1.6 gigs of memory using multi-instances? It seems to me there are resource issues that multi instance addresses as well. -Mark

Re: CFC, YES OR NO

2008-02-06 Thread Dominic Watson
Does these frameworks make things easier or just more complicated. I'm working on a small-medium sized application and I hope I can use some CFCs there but a framework if it makes everything even working with CFCs easier would a huge help. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks in advance Ben

RE: Is the need for multiple CF instances diminishing?

2008-02-06 Thread Andy Matthews
Right... Until Adobe releases a 64bit version of CF, the JVM is limited to just 1gig, even if your server has more. So using multiple instances is the only way to get the most bang for your bux. -Original Message- From: Mark Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06,

Re: CFC, YES OR NO

2008-02-06 Thread Ali
On Feb 6, 2008 7:58 PM, Mark Fuqua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Benign I'm sure everyone on this list will say yes to learning oop right away. Well, almost everyone. I'll point you instead to productivityenhancement.com where you can download a framework called PLUM. Plum is a framework that

RE: Is the need for multiple CF instances diminishing?

2008-02-06 Thread Dave Watts
I agree with Dave. If customers feel they need control over their servers, then they have that choice. Only other reason for mutli-instance would be mappings / unique custom tags that they didn't want to make global and such. Well, that's not actually what I wrote. There are lots of

Re: Is the need for multiple CF instances diminishing?

2008-02-06 Thread Todd Rafferty
Yup, agreed that it should also be considered for anyone looking to setup a multi-instance. Currently that doesn't fit our need or budget (according to the owner). I'm just a lead developer plunking down projects for him to cash out on. I don't get a say in hardware or software installation /

Re: CFC, YES OR NO

2008-02-06 Thread Ali
If you are confident that you can do the project using methods you currently use, I would say stick with what you know unless you have heaps of time. To start using an 'MVC' framework for example with no experience of CFC's is going to add the confusion I think. I like your idea of using

iterators

2008-02-06 Thread Jonathon Stierman
I've been toying around with the idea of wrapping my output objects in Iterators on my View pages. The idea is that I'd like my Views to be relatively independent of the datatype that they're trying to display. So my View would be able to work with either a Query, Array of Structs, Array of

iterators

2008-02-06 Thread Jonathon Stierman
I've been toying around with the idea of wrapping my output objects in Iterators on my View pages. The idea is that I'd like my Views to be relatively independent of the datatype that they're trying to display. So my View would be able to work with either a Query, Array of Structs, Array of

Re: Is the need for multiple CF instances diminishing?

2008-02-06 Thread Todd Rafferty
On Feb 6, 2008 1:51 PM, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, that's not actually what I wrote. There are lots of reasons for using multiple instances: - isolation of services for security/administrative reasons - isolation of services for stability reasons - ability to configure

Cfeclipse/Aptana plugin

2008-02-06 Thread Tim L
Is anyone familair enough with this combination to tell me the easiest way to get a homesite style HTML tag menu on the CFeclipse perspective view? thanks in advance ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and

Re: ColdFusion: Some People Just Don't Know Any Better

2008-02-06 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
The only way you can pressure a company is to not buy its products. I'm not sure that's entirely true. It may be the *best* way, but not the *only* way. Have we really gotten the word out as a community to Adobe in terms of what we are seeing and the trends that are happening? Sales numbers

Re: Cfeclipse/Aptana plugin

2008-02-06 Thread Casey Dougall
On 2/6/08, Tim L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anyone familair enough with this combination to tell me the easiest way to get a homesite style HTML tag menu on the CFeclipse perspective view? thanks in advance Not sure what type of menu you are referring to. As I would assume, you are talking

RE: Is the need for multiple CF instances diminishing?

2008-02-06 Thread Russ
Yep, and isn't this the biggest weakness of CF to date? Are other technologies limited to 1GB or ram? PHP/.NET/RoR? I can understand why myspace migrated away from CF. With sketchy session replication and the fact that you can't have more then 1GB per instance, it's just getting impossible

Re: CFC, YES OR NO

2008-02-06 Thread Dominic Watson
I've not read it but reading the reviews it seems just about perfect. Doesn't look like it dummies anything which is important. Remember to ignore the language specific stuff (java, C++, etc), maybe this is obvious but it's the kind of thing I do all the time, i.e. read bits that I don't need to

RE: ColdFusion: Some People Just Don't Know Any Better

2008-02-06 Thread Russ
Isn't MS targeting enterprise customers as well? However, they made it easy to get access to developers and tools. Giving away free copies to universities, and having light versions of things available for free (SQL Express, Visual Studio Express, etc). Russ -Original Message- From:

iterators

2008-02-06 Thread Jonathon Stierman
I've been toying around with the idea of wrapping my output objects in Iterators on my View pages. The idea is that I'd like my Views to be relatively independent of the datatype that they're trying to display. So my View would be able to work with either a Query, Array of Structs, Array of

Re: CFC, YES OR NO

2008-02-06 Thread Gerald Guido
Where do I start Nothing personal, in fact Plum looks pretty slick, but... 1) Filling out Wizards will not teach you how to ColdFusion or any other language. Quite honestly if that is your approach you would be better off using DreamWeaver (DW) from Adobe or Downloading or Visual Web

Re: iterators

2008-02-06 Thread Dominic Watson
Hi there, How are you doing this iterator exactly? I have just made and been using my own dao iterator base component and it has so far been really fast and easy to use (and dang handy, definately a good idea). I would loop like so: cfloop condition=myIteratorObj.Next()

RE: CFC, YES OR NO

2008-02-06 Thread Mark Fuqua
Yes, Plum is easy to learn, although I think most Plum users are much more advanced than I am, so it is worth noting that it can grow with you as your skills grow. The documentation/tutorials are quite complete through the beginning levels and you can probably work through the tutorials in an

RE: CFDOCUMENT not working

2008-02-06 Thread Brad Wood
There are a number of things that can cause a cfdocument tag to hang. It seems that timeouts are never enforced for third-party calls like images. You only have given us an iceburg-tip piece of information though. What version of CF are you on? What updaters do you have installed? Have you

RE: iterators

2008-02-06 Thread Russ
Is debugging on? All the calls to the functions get tracked in debugging which can add considerable overhead. It might be more efficient to write these iterators in java and then instantiate the java object in your code. Russ -Original Message- From: Jonathon Stierman

Re: iterators

2008-02-06 Thread Dominic Watson
Incidentally, I have been using Model-Glue and I always pass the view the query that the iterator contains (I use the iterator object for operations on the data, etc) - afterall, the view needs only to READ the data, the cfquery object is a perfect iterating object for this task. Dominic

RE: Is the need for multiple CF instances diminishing?

2008-02-06 Thread Dave Watts
Yep, and isn't this the biggest weakness of CF to date? Are other technologies limited to 1GB or ram? PHP/.NET/RoR? This is a JVM limitation, not a CF limitation. And, it's platform-specific. The memory limit for a 32-bit JVM is much higher on, say, Solaris - around 4 GB, if I recall

RE: iterators

2008-02-06 Thread Jonathon Stierman
Russ -- I had debugging on. Turning it off reduced the average by about 500 ms on the 1 record query, so that definitely helps some! Dominic -- I'd love to see what you've got! Post them to this thread, or email them to me, whichever you feel comfortable with. Not sure with what's going

Re: iterators

2008-02-06 Thread Josh Nathanson
How are you doing this iterator exactly? I have just made and been using my own dao iterator base component and it has so far been really fast and easy to use (and dang handy, definately a good idea). I would loop like so: Also check out Peter Bell's IBO (Iterating Business Object) concept

CFExchange Permission Problems

2008-02-06 Thread Sehlmeyer, Jason
Any Idea why all of my users can access their mailbox by using a cfexchange connection except one? I can OWA with the name/password that is used in the connection string and everything works fine, but Coldfusion complains of invalid access when trying to access the users. Access to the

RE: iterators

2008-02-06 Thread Jonathon Stierman
Russ -- I had debugging on. Turning it off reduced the average by about 500 ms on the 1 record query, so that definitely helps some! Dominic -- I'd love to see what you've got! Post them to this thread, or email them to me, whichever you feel comfortable with. Not sure with what's going

RE: Is the need for multiple CF instances diminishing?

2008-02-06 Thread Russ
The 2GB address space limit only exists on 32 bit architectures, correct? A server running lets say Windows 2003 x64 Server or any flavor of x64 Linux wouldn't have that limitation, correct? So why are we stuck using the outdated 32bit JVM? Russ -Original Message- From: Dave Watts

RE: ColdFusion: Some People Just Don't Know Any Better

2008-02-06 Thread Dave Watts
I'm not sure that's entirely true. It may be the *best* way, but not the *only* way. Have we really gotten the word out as a community to Adobe in terms of what we are seeing and the trends that are happening? I don't even know what that means. Purchasing a product doesn't make you a

Re: Is the need for multiple CF instances diminishing?

2008-02-06 Thread Ian Skinner
Yep, and isn't this the biggest weakness of CF to date? Are other technologies limited to 1GB or ram? PHP/.NET/RoR? The are if they are limited to pre-JAVA 1.6 (IIRC the version). The limit is not a ColdFusion specific limit, but a limit it inherits from the underlining Java. So any

Re: Is the need for multiple CF instances diminishing?

2008-02-06 Thread Rick Root
On 2/6/08, Steven Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our business is sort of an ASP model where we have a single, main application to which we essentially sell subscriptions to large clients. Over the years, those clients have demanded unique changes to the app that have caused the main code

RE: Is the need for multiple CF instances diminishing?

2008-02-06 Thread Brad Wood
Are other technologies limited to 1GB or ram? Doesn't Java suffer from this same limitation? It is my understanding that the memory limit is a Java thing, not a CF thing. Please correct me if I'm wrong. ...the fact that you can't have more then 1GB per instance... But don't instances

Re: Is the need for multiple CF instances diminishing?

2008-02-06 Thread Steven Wood
Whoa What about the ability to run your instances with different JVM args and allocate memory and resources specifically? And what about leveraging more than 1.6 gigs of memory using multi-instances? It seems to me there are resource issues that multi instance addresses as well. Okay, this

RE: Is the need for multiple CF instances diminishing?

2008-02-06 Thread Dave Watts
The 2GB address space limit only exists on 32 bit architectures, correct? A server running lets say Windows 2003 x64 Server or any flavor of x64 Linux wouldn't have that limitation, correct? So why are we stuck using the outdated 32bit JVM? Maybe you should direct that question to

Re: iterators

2008-02-06 Thread Dominic Watson
Yeh, mine is similar with some differences and some nice ideas from Reactor (but with performance), anyways I've zipped some files and posted them here: http://www.dominicwatson.co.uk/downloads/iterator.zip Note, this was all intended for private use - not public release ;) Let me know what you

Re: CFC, YES OR NO

2008-02-06 Thread Rick Root
On 2/6/08, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you need a course on basic object orientated design principles e.g. classes, methods, encapsulation, abstraction, inheritance etc. I don't agree with that at all. the use of CFCs doesn't necessarily have anything to do with object

RE: iterators

2008-02-06 Thread Jonathon Stierman
Russ -- I had debugging on. Turning it off reduced the average by about 500 ms on the 1 record query, so that definitely helps some! Dominic -- I'd love to see what you've got! Post them to this thread, or email them to me, whichever you feel comfortable with. Not sure with what's going

Re: Anyone using BlazeDS?

2008-02-06 Thread Rick Root
I guess you'd have to decide if you're gonna run it on the same server as CF in production.. and if not, running it on the SAME server in staging means that your environments do not match. I don't know all that many places whose development and staging environments exactly match anyway. Those

RE: Is the need for multiple CF instances diminishing?

2008-02-06 Thread Russ
-Original Message- From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 3:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Is the need for multiple CF instances diminishing? Are other technologies limited to 1GB or ram? Doesn't Java suffer from this same limitation? It

Re: CFC, YES OR NO

2008-02-06 Thread Adrian Moreno
I've got two ongoing How-to series on my site that may help you. The first covers many basics of CFCs and OOP with ColdFusion: http://www.iknowkungfoo.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/8/22/Object-Oriented-Coldfusion--1--Intro-to-Objectcfc The second covers Mach-II, one of the major ColdFusion

Re: CFC, YES OR NO

2008-02-06 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Feb 6, 2008 12:24 PM, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't agree with that at all. the use of CFCs doesn't necessarily have anything to do with object oriented design. Lots of CFCs are just groupings of functions to perform application tasks. But they're not really object oriented

Re: CFC, YES OR NO

2008-02-06 Thread Ali
On Feb 6, 2008 11:54 PM, Adrian Moreno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got two ongoing How-to series on my site that may help you. The first covers many basics of CFCs and OOP with ColdFusion:

Re: CFC, YES OR NO

2008-02-06 Thread s. isaac dealey
I have a hard time understanding why PLUM was not better received with in the coldfusion community as a whole. I understand it is not oop or certainly not pure mvc...I understand it was written by titans within the coldfusion community that didn't get along with other titans within the

Software Recommendations

2008-02-06 Thread Bruce Sorge
So I just finished a meeting with our maintenance department. They showed me this huge POS hosted application that they have been using for managing their projects/maintenance requests. So I get to build a new trouble-ticket system for them. Rather than re-invent the wheel I thought I would

Re: CFC, YES OR NO

2008-02-06 Thread Josh Nathanson
just 'cuz i think this could be an interesting convo... then why use CFCs at all? if you're just grouping similar functions together, why not just a cfinclude to a .cfm? One good reason is you can cache the CFC in the Application scope (as long as it is a singleton), so it's always in RAM

RE: Anyone using BlazeDS?

2008-02-06 Thread Andy Matthews
That's the nice thing. I don't think it's going to go into production. We're thinking that it might just be internal which means that the staging server is just fine. -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:28 PM To: CF-Talk

Re: CFC, YES OR NO

2008-02-06 Thread s. isaac dealey
Oh ... also speaking of people having a difficult time wrapping their heads around something... I've never, not *once* since I implemented specific support for CFCs in the framework, written an application that wasn't 100% object-oriented in the model layer. And yet somehow, it seems merely

Re: CFC, YES OR NO

2008-02-06 Thread Brian Kotek
The real issue I would have is that, as far as I can tell, the framework isn't actively maintained. Does anyone know if there is ongoing development on the Plum framework and tools? Even if there is, I'd recommend looking at one of the more mainstream frameworks like Model-Glue, Fusebox, Coldbox,

RE: CFC, YES OR NO

2008-02-06 Thread Russ
CFC's can be cached in the application scope, so you don't have to include the file every time, plus it should run at least slightly faster. Russ -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 3:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re:

RE: Is the need for multiple CF instances diminishing?

2008-02-06 Thread Brad Wood
32bit Java. 64bit Java doesn't suffer from this limitation AFAIR. Speaking of which, is CF certified on any 64bit java? I remember something about it being certified on x64 Solaris or something. Is anyone using it on a 64bit Java under windows? Hmmm, this knowledge base article shows

CF .NET

2008-02-06 Thread ColdFusion
I have a JS menu that is configured using a CFM file. The CFM file is the one that creates all the menu items based on security permissions. Question is this: How can I use that same configuration on a .NET application?

Re: Software Recommendations

2008-02-06 Thread Mark Mandel
Project Tracker looks pretty good, and is open source. I'm pretty sure it works on 2005 too: http://projecttracker.riaforge.org/ Mark On Feb 7, 2008 8:05 AM, Bruce Sorge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I just finished a meeting with our maintenance department. They showed me this huge POS hosted

Re: Is the need for multiple CF instances diminishing?

2008-02-06 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Russ wrote: The 2GB address space limit only exists on 32 bit architectures, correct? A server running lets say Windows 2003 x64 Server or any flavor of x64 Linux wouldn't have that limitation, correct? So why are we stuck using the outdated 32bit JVM? How long have 64-bit Sun JVMs been

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