> I'm not sure that's entirely true. It may be the *best* way, > but not the *only* way. Have we really gotten the word out as > a community to Adobe in terms of what we are seeing and the > trends that are happening?
I don't even know what that means. Purchasing a product doesn't make you a member of a community, in any meaningful sense, unless that product is a house. Who speaks for this "community"? What are "we" seeing? The trends that you are seeing may not be the trends that I'm seeing. > Sales numbers alone are just not going to give the whole picture. I strongly suspect that they're the only part of the picture that Adobe's interested in looking at. > The difference is that Java is widely taught in schools, and > people know if they learn it they will have no trouble > finding a job....thus, there is hardly a lack of experienced > developers for it. The reverse is true for CF....it is a rare > college that has classes for it, developers don't see it as a > technology worthy of learning or that will help them get a > good job, and thus experienced coders are harder and harder > to find. Do you really think enterprises will keep using CF > if the number of developers that know it continue to drop? > We're used to seeing the posts about CF dying, etc. > particularly from outside the community...but we're hearing > more and more from inside the community about problems > finding developers, companies having to switch to .NET, etc. > due to lack of experienced coders, and that just is not going > to be something that strictly marketing to the Enterprise is > going to fix. Java is widely taught in schools because it is a good teaching language, and the point of a CS degree is to learn how to program, not "how to program in language X". CF is emphatically NOT suitable for this purpose. But any CS student worth his salt can pick up CF very quickly. I don't see any evidence that the number of CF developers is decreasing, either. The plural of anecdote is not data. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Training: Adobe/Google/Paperthin Certified Partners http://training.figleaf.com/ WebManiacs 2008: the ultimate conference for CF/Flex/AIR developers! http://www.webmaniacsconference.com/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:298379 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
