Re: JVM Heap Size

2011-10-13 Thread Jochem van Dieten
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:41 PM, John M Bliss wrote: This may be a shot in the dark, but, does anyone on this list have a resource/URL/etc illustrating average traceroute/ping times between high-end Web hosting facilities and 'Net locations around the world? Run your own tests:

Re: Shouldn't these statements work?

2011-10-13 Thread Michael Grant
It sure is a word: Entry from US dictionary Like I said. Not a word. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive:

Re: Shouldn't these statements work?

2011-10-13 Thread Michael Grant
From Merriam-Webster: * truthiness The word you've entered isn't in the dictionary. Click on a spelling suggestion below or try again using the search bar above. * On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 7:37 AM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote: It sure is a word: Entry from US dictionary

Re: Hiding email address from spiders

2011-10-13 Thread Claude Schnéegans
How about the honeypot method that was presented on CFMeetup a few months ago? Never heard of it. Any reference ? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Hiding email address from spiders

2011-10-13 Thread Matt Quackenbush
http://www.google.com/#hl=encp=6gs_id=mxhr=tq=honeypot On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 7:32 AM, wrote: How about the honeypot method that was presented on CFMeetup a few months ago? Never heard of it. Any reference ? ~|

RE: Hiding email address from spiders

2011-10-13 Thread Rick Faircloth
I can't find a reference on www.meetup.com/coldfusionmeetup to the archived presentation, but the basic idea is this: Add a hidden form field that a user can't see, and therefore, won't fill in, and use it to trap a bot/spider. The bot doesn't realize the field is hidden and puts something in

Re: Hiding email address from spiders

2011-10-13 Thread Claude Schnéegans
The bot doesn't realize the field is hidden and puts something in it. Check the field when the form is submitted for the presence of a value in the field. OK, I see. But there is no guaranty the bot will fill the field. I prefer the reverse : add a field in a onclick event and check for the

Re: Shouldn't these statements work?

2011-10-13 Thread Dominic Watson
Interestingly enough, it was there word of the year in 2006: http://www.merriam-webster.com/info/06words.htm On 13 October 2011 12:42, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote: From Merriam-Webster: * truthiness The word you've entered isn't in the dictionary. Click on a spelling suggestion

Determining if multiple Sites are Up/Down?

2011-10-13 Thread Che Vilnonis
I have a niche directory website that lists dozens of other related sites. What would be the best way to determine if a web site is up/down so I can programmatically make a site active or inactive? I was thinking of just creating a scheduled task and using cfhttp and looking for a status code of

Re: Determining if multiple Sites are Up/Down?

2011-10-13 Thread Russ Michaels
the easiest way would be to CFHTTP the site and make sure you get a valid response back and not an error or a timeout. that is really the most reliable method and is how most of this uptime services work. On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Che Vilnonis ch...@asitv.com wrote: I have a niche

Re: Determining if multiple Sites are Up/Down?

2011-10-13 Thread Raymond Camden
Have you look at the System Probes feature in the CF Admin? On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Che Vilnonis ch...@asitv.com wrote: I have a niche directory website that lists dozens of other related sites. What would be the best way to determine if a web site is up/down so I can

RE: Determining if multiple Sites are Up/Down?

2011-10-13 Thread Che Vilnonis
Russ, thanks for the +1 Ray, I have not. The site will be hosted on Railo so I don't believe that's an option. -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcam...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 9:51 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Determining if multiple Sites are

Re: Determining if multiple Sites are Up/Down?

2011-10-13 Thread Dominic Watson
This can be fine. However, depending on your needs, you might want to use an external service for site monitoring. I've used siteuptime.com for a while and it's proved very useful and easy to use. I've not used it, but they have an API that may let you perform actions when sites drop out, etc.

RE: Determining if multiple Sites are Up/Down?

2011-10-13 Thread Rick Faircloth
+1 for siteuptime.com. I can get messages sent to my mobile phone that keep me informed, even on the go. -Original Message- From: Dominic Watson [mailto:watson.domi...@googlemail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 9:59 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Determining if multiple Sites are

RE: Hiding email address from spiders

2011-10-13 Thread Rick Faircloth
I didn't know about the IP addresses part. I'm going to be implementing the feature with that. I don't see the IP address relevance at this point. You've almost certainly have read more about the approach than I have. Can you describe using an onclick event a little more? Such as, when what

Re: Determining if multiple Sites are Up/Down?

2011-10-13 Thread Russ Michaels
+1 for using an external service, I would however suggest you find a good PAID service. The FREE ones are very unreliable. Russ On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote: +1 for siteuptime.com. I can get messages sent to my mobile phone that keep me

Re: Determining if multiple Sites are Up/Down?

2011-10-13 Thread Matthew Williams
Call me old school, but I just run Nagios + NagiosQL on one of my VPS's to monitor my various machines. It's a real pain in the arse to setup, to be sure, but it gets the job done. To help with the setup, I have a VM locally that runs Groundworks locally. After that's configured, I export

Re: Shouldn't these statements work?

2011-10-13 Thread Michael Grant
...which is an online survey. On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Dominic Watson watson.domi...@googlemail.com wrote: Interestingly enough, it was there word of the year in 2006: http://www.merriam-webster.com/info/06words.htm On 13 October 2011 12:42, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote:

removing attachment from email

2011-10-13 Thread John Watts
I have an automated report that puts an attachment of a data dump from a tally. I need to have it not insert the attachment if there was no data entered in the tally. How do you do this? Thank you ~| Order the Adobe

Re: removing attachment from email

2011-10-13 Thread Russ Michaels
cfif len(tally) GT 0 add attachment /cfif On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:00 PM, John Watts jahana...@msn.com wrote: I have an automated report that puts an attachment of a data dump from a tally. I need to have it not insert the attachment if there was no data entered in the tally. How do

Re: Shouldn't these statements work?

2011-10-13 Thread Dave Watts
...which is an online survey. Words aren't managed through a central authority. They exist by consensus. If enough people started using blutz to mean something, it would be a word. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a

Re: removing attachment from email

2011-10-13 Thread John Watts
I have an automated report that puts an attachment of a data dump from a tally. I need to have it not insert the attachment if there was no data entered in the tally. How do you do this? Thank you That didn't work right. It put add attachment on the page, which should be blank. The

RE: Hiding email address from spiders

2011-10-13 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
I've been doing that one for years (and offered it as potential solution here a few times). Hiding it by CSS or JS is the key. Typically, I put the normal text field and some text next to it like dont fill in this field in a single div then use CSS and/or JS to hide it from real people. It has

RE: Hiding email address from spiders

2011-10-13 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
The onclick sounds pretty cool. I never thought to do it like that. .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com http://cf4em.com -Original Message- From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com [mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans

Re: Shouldn't these statements work?

2011-10-13 Thread Michael Grant
If it were added to a reputable dictionary you would be absolutely correct. On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: ...which is an online survey. Words aren't managed through a central authority. They exist by consensus. If enough people started using blutz

Re: Hiding email address from spiders

2011-10-13 Thread Claude Schnéegans
Can you describe using an onclick event a little more? Here is a example: SCRIPT function validateForm(b) { var NewInput = document.createElement(input ); NewInput.setAttribute('name','validateForm'); NewInput.setAttribute('type','hidden'); b.form.appendChild(NewInput);

Re: removing attachment from email

2011-10-13 Thread Michael Grant
I think what Russ was trying to indicate was that you need a conditional statement to evaluate if there is data in the tally. Inside the conditional you have your cfmailparam tag to attach the file. On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:07 PM, John Watts jahana...@msn.com wrote: I have an automated

Re: Shouldn't these statements work?

2011-10-13 Thread Dave Watts
If it were added to a reputable dictionary you would be absolutely correct. And, if it were not, I'd still be correct. This is Linguistics 101 stuff. Dictionaries don't create words, they list the words that are already in use. Words exists before dictionaries recognize them. Dave Watts, CTO,

Re: removing attachment from email

2011-10-13 Thread John Watts
I think what Russ was trying to indicate was that you need a conditional statement to evaluate if there is data in the tally. Inside the conditional you have your cfmailparam tag to attach the file. On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:07 PM, John Watts jahana...@msn.com wrote: How do I go about doing

Re: removing attachment from email

2011-10-13 Thread John Watts
I think what Russ was trying to indicate was that you need a conditional statement to evaluate if there is data in the tally. Inside the conditional you have your cfmailparam tag to attach the file. On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:07 PM, John Watts jahana...@msn.com wrote: How do you do that?

Re: Shouldn't these statements work?

2011-10-13 Thread Michael Grant
Sure they exist. However using a word, such as truthiness doesn't make it right. People also say flustrated, so since it exists, it's a word, it doesn't make it right. On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: If it were added to a reputable dictionary you would

Re: Shouldn't these statements work?

2011-10-13 Thread Raymond Camden
In terms of language, what is right? I can say anything I want. Period. Whether you understand the meaning or not is inconsequential. Dave is right. Long live blutz and can be move the blutz on please? On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote: Sure they exist.

Re: removing attachment from email

2011-10-13 Thread Michael Grant
Ok. Let's assume your dump variable is a string, and it's called tally. Let's also assume you are attaching your files to your mail using the cfmailparam tag. cfmail to= from= etc This is your email body content cfif len(tally) cfmailparam file=pathToYourFile /cfif /cfmail On Thu, Oct

Re: Shouldn't these statements work?

2011-10-13 Thread Dave Watts
Sure they exist. However using a word, such as truthiness doesn't make it right. People also say flustrated, so since it exists, it's a word, it doesn't make it right. There's no consensus among English speakers about flustrated, so, no, it is not yet a word. But if this changes over time,

RE: Shouldn't these statements work?

2011-10-13 Thread DURETTE, STEVEN J
And I always thought that flustrated was a combination of Flustered and Frustrated. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:48 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Shouldn't these statements work? Sure they exist. However using a

Re: Shouldn't these statements work?

2011-10-13 Thread Michael Grant
What's right in language is subjective of course, but if you use words that are made up or illustrate a lack of understanding of the language you are trying to speak, such as flustrated, it hinders your ability to effectively communicate as well as your ability to be taken seriously. You can use

Re: Shouldn't these statements work?

2011-10-13 Thread Dave Watts
What's right in language is subjective of course, but if you use words that are made up or illustrate a lack of understanding of the language you are trying to speak, such as flustrated, it hinders your ability to effectively communicate as well as your ability to be taken seriously. ALL

Re: Shouldn't these statements work?

2011-10-13 Thread Michael Grant
True Dave. However the fact that at some far off point in the future incorrect usage of words may become correct shouldn't be justification for using them incorrectly now, should it? Words have specific meanings. That might change in the future, sure. However when you're trying to communicate in

Re: Shouldn't these statements work?

2011-10-13 Thread Dave Watts
True Dave. However the fact that at some far off point in the future incorrect usage of words may become correct shouldn't be justification for using them incorrectly now, should it? If I recall correctly, this tangent to the thread came up with your objection to the word truthiness, which

Re: Shouldn't these statements work?

2011-10-13 Thread Russ Michaels
and the utterly ridiculous txt speak is enough proof of that :-) On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: True Dave. However the fact that at some far off point in the future incorrect usage of words may become correct shouldn't be justification for using them

Re: Shouldn't these statements work?

2011-10-13 Thread Michael Grant
I think you're being obtuse Dave. And that's your right to do so. You're right from an idealistic perspective. I'll give you that. My position comes from the practical world, not the theoretical one. You meet with a CEO and use truthiness in a presentation you'll look like a fool. You use a world

Re: Shouldn't these statements work?

2011-10-13 Thread Brian Kotek
I'd say Oxford is a more reputable dictionary than Webster. On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote: If it were added to a reputable dictionary you would be absolutely correct. On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: ...which

Re: Shouldn't these statements work?

2011-10-13 Thread Phillip Vector
Sorry... I may be mistaken.. This STILL is a ColdFusion list.. Correct? On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Brian Kotek brian...@gmail.com wrote: I'd say Oxford is a more reputable dictionary than Webster. ~| Order the Adobe

Re: Shouldn't these statements work?

2011-10-13 Thread Brian Kotek
Also: http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/truthiness Entry from World dictionary Sorry, didn't mean to start a flame war. Just pointing out that it's definitely a recognized word. (Ducks) On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 7:37 AM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote: It sure is a word:

Re: Shouldn't these statements work?

2011-10-13 Thread Dave Watts
I think you're being obtuse Dave. And that's your right to do so. You're right from an idealistic perspective. I'll give you that. My position comes from the practical world, not the theoretical one. You meet with a CEO and use truthiness in a presentation you'll look like a fool. Really?

RE: Shouldn't these statements work?

2011-10-13 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
Say goodbye to your thread Rick. :-/ .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com http://cf4em.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Shouldn't these statements work?

2011-10-13 Thread Michael Grant
I can only imagine what a game of scrabble must be like at your house. In the interest of moving forward and freeing up my spare time I'll concede to you that truthiness is a word. (Even though the red squiggle under the word right now seems to be mocking me.) We'll have to agree to disagree

Re: JVM Heap Size

2011-10-13 Thread Justin Scott
However, I do not have -Xms1g -Xmx1g in the JVM args. Do I need both? I'll defer to others since I never used to change settings via the admin... The CF admin provides separate fields for the min and max memory and will automatically include those values in the JVM arguments so there is no

RE: Shouldn't these statements work?

2011-10-13 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
Now I owe Dave $1. He bet me that he could get you to admit truthiness was a word... crap! .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com http://cf4em.com -Original Message- From: Michael Grant [mailto:mgr...@modus.bz] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 6:59 PM

Re: Shouldn't these statements work?

2011-10-13 Thread Michael Grant
Indeed. In the same way I admit to my daughter that she's right when she tells me it's Pig Newtons, not Fig Newtons. On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Bobby Hartsfield bo...@acoderslife.comwrote: Now I owe Dave $1. He bet me that he could get you to admit truthiness was a word... crap!

Re: Shouldn't these statements work?

2011-10-13 Thread Gerald Guido
All that for a dollar? Sounds like a very expensive dollar. G! - runs for cover On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Bobby Hartsfield bo...@acoderslife.comwrote: Now I owe Dave $1. He bet me that he could get you to admit truthiness was a word... crap! .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby

How CF works

2011-10-13 Thread Stephens, Larry V
I have a page that does a moderately involved query: it returns 16 fields with 3 left joins, a simple WHERE and ORDER. (I'd include it here but I'm remoting in and can't copy-and-paste). The database is small - only 40 or so record at this point. I can see it in Mozilla and IE, with XP and

Re: Shouldn't these statements work?

2011-10-13 Thread Dave Watts
I can only imagine what a game of scrabble must be like at your house. It must be nonexistent, as I don't play Scrabble. That said, my understanding of the rules is that you use a specific dictionary as an authoritative answer to whether you can play a word. That's fine, it's just a game, and

Re: How CF works

2011-10-13 Thread Nathan Strutz
Larry, ColdFusion will not return something different to different browsers unless you explicitly tell it to do so. The most likely culprit here is bad HTML, Javascript and CSS. It sounds like an unclosed (or unopened) table tag, a missing quote on an inline style attribute, or something