PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS THREAD ON CF-TALK.
I've been asked to update the HoF document on CF vs. Asp. I'm not really
doing anything with .Net so it's going to be somewhat of a problem. A
perfect solution is to ask the community for help. I'd like to ask anyone
who want
l language to
get the job done.
Stace
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 9:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs ASP
I think you would be better off learning JSP(java server pages) and some
j2ee.
Why?
Because what CFMX doe
CF-Talk
Subject: CF vs ASP
OK...I know I'm going to get beat-up over this question, but...
Being new at this, I am trying to determine why I should learn CF over ASP
(or vice versa).
Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Craig
di 9 octobre 2002 15:03
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Objet : RE: CF vs ASP
I think you would be better off learning JSP(java server pages) and some
j2ee.
Why?
Because what CFMX does is translate CFML pages into some servlets
(correct me if I am wrong) so why learning CF(providing you don't
know it already) when
Good point.
-Original Message-
From: Gary W. Sullivan II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 9:18 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs ASP
Well, Kim... Keep in mind that you can still be a .NET guru and live in
harmony with CF!!!
I, too, am a Windows App
o: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs ASP
I'm hard pressed not to move all of my future development to .Net. AS
much as I love CF and how well I know it, Being a Windows application
developer, I can't not switch to .NET it will allow me to have all of
our programmers on 1 platforma dn deploy
oment that we see fit Hate to say it but my days on the list
are numbered...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 9:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs ASP
I think you would be better off learning JSP(java server
I think you would be better off learning JSP(java server pages) and some j2ee.
Why?
Because what CFMX does is translate CFML pages into some servlets
(correct me if I am wrong) so why learning CF(providing you don't
know it already) when you can learn Java(JSP and stuff).
As I see it CF is far fro
> Being new at this, I am trying to determine why I should learn CF over ASP
> (or vice versa).
http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/competitive/
Tom Chiverton
You don't have to be a mad scientist to believe in ColdFusion
OK...I know I'm going to get beat-up over this question, but...
Being new at this, I am trying to determine why I should learn CF over ASP
(or vice versa).
Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Craig
On Tuesday, August 27, 2002, at 11:25 , Matthew R. Small wrote:
> Well, just to put your comments in perspective, let me ask a question:
>
> Did you research other technologies to see if there was one better
> suited to the need of your intranet?
Yes, we already use BroadVision, Perl CGI, ASP...
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From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
On Tuesday, August 27, 2002, at 09:11 , Matthew R. Small wrote:
> Intranets are one thing I can think
On Tuesday, August 27, 2002, at 09:11 , Matthew R. Small wrote:
> Intranets are one thing I can think of. I have an intranet here that I
> wrote last year using CF - because I am most experienced at CF.
> However, I believe that had I written it in ASP, I would have not
> encountered the numerous
Shack) you might have your foot in the door with
the "I am flexible and constantly expand my horizons" argument.
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From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
thank you bryan!
let matt
Would that be with the tag? Mr. Sulu, instantiate the fuel tank
separation CFC!
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From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 7:39 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
sorry, i didnt mean to come across like that, if you read.
as
er mailing lists for it!)
Jimmy
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From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 6:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
I know that I am chiming in late here, but here goes.
Learning another language can never hurt. Case in point. I put
iotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 6:22 PM
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
> > Sure... but the same could be said about ANY programming language.
> >
> But this isn't ANY-Talk. This is CF-Talk and we are disc
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> > Sure... but the same could be said about ANY programming language.
> >
> But this isn't ANY-Talk. This is CF-Talk and we are discussing CF vs.
> ASP, w
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> I know the whole CF and why people are using it issue has been hashed out
> quite a bit but I would like to add my two cents coming from a different
> background than most we
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> Knew this was going to be a big thread...
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> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 6:54 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > People on this list are amazing. I haven't pointed out anything that
is
> >
27, 2002 3:07 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
>
> Matt Liotta wrote:
> > The problem here is that cfmail doesn't block while the file is in
the
> > spool. You are either going to need to adapt your code to support
some
> > sort of asynchronous ev
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From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> People on this list are amazing. I haven't pointed out anything that is
> wrong with CF in this thread. I have simply pointed out that sometimes
> other solutions are better, which is far from hating CF.
---
I know the whole CF and why people are using it issue has been hashed out
quite a bit but I would like to add my two cents coming from a different
background than most web developers.
I started my programmer career with C. In C you have absolute control over
everything going on in your program. Y
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-Original Message-
From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 11:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
Matt
I think the problem is that the alternat
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Attempting to show that CF is a more rabid development platform than
ASP...
Petco* has low-cost clinics every two weeks. You seem to be frothing at the
mouth.
* Large pet supply chain in the U.S.
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Matt Liotta wrote:
> The problem here is that cfmail doesn't block while the file is in the
> spool. You are either going to need to adapt your code to support some
> sort of asynchronous events or use a mail library you can serialize e.g.
> javax.mail.
Hence my comment about first figuring out h
Rizal Firmansyah wrote:
>
> WOW!
> Jochem, this is weird.
>
> First i thought the first time being executed within .cfm script,
> it creates an email-msg file containing all data, including attachments if any.
No, just a reference to the attachment.
> But apparently it doesn't :(
>
> Do you
At 09:14 AM 8/27/2002, you wrote:
>
>
>
>test
>
>
>
>Error in the mail.log:
>"Error","scheduler-4","08/27/02","04:03:47",,"Sending failed; nested
>exception is: javax.mail.MessagingException: IOException while sending
>message; nested exception is:java.io.FileNotFoundException:
>c:\cfus
Matt
I think the problem is that the alternative being discussed is from
MSoft and the natural reaction is to barf if something is being shoved
down your throat -- common sense and merits adide!
Dick
On Monday, August 26, 2002, at 06:20 PM, Matt Liotta wrote:
> People on this list are amazin
Claro!
On Monday, August 26, 2002, at 06:07 PM, Pablo Varando wrote:
> The truth is that THAT is the beauty of Coldfusion, an all in one
> solution
> that is really affordable and easy to use.
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On Monday, August 26, 2002, at 05:56 PM, Matt Liotta wrote:
> Well that is just what I was getting at. It is nice that CF has all
> this
> wrapped up functionality, but it comes at a price. That price is
> control. Sure there is usually a way to get it to do what you want, but
> that generally t
Interesting question... I was just making the same argument (on another
list) for CF vs WiTango (replacement for Pervasive's Tango).
Tango was/is (approximately) DWMX, CFMX/JRun and a pretty good RDBMS
all rolled into one --- with the ability to develop web and desktop
applications on/for win,
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> -Original Message-
> From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 7:15 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
>
> Pablo Varando wrote:
> >
ust 26, 2002 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
> Pablo Varando wrote:
> > Well what code are you using to loop through and send the emails?
>
>
>
>
> test
>
>
>
> Error in the mail.log:
> "Error","scheduler-4","08/27/02",&q
i guess the cfx_sleep tag to pause that for a second or two
wouldnt suffice here?
tw
-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 10:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
Pablo Varando wrote:
> Well what code are you us
over ASP.
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, 27 August 2002 1:57 p.m.
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
>
>
> > The reason I said:
> > I'm sitting here asking myself, why you hate ColdFusion so mu
Pablo Varando wrote:
> Well what code are you using to loop through and send the emails?
test
Error in the mail.log:
"Error","scheduler-4","08/27/02","04:03:47",,"Sending failed; nested
exception is: javax.mail.MessagingException: IOException while sending
message; nested exception
ng the future in the present]
[connecting people, places and things]
-Original Message-
From: Pablo Varando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 9:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
Not necessarily. Truth is that by having it all built in on one place, you
are simp
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 6:56 PM
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
> > The reason I said:
> > I'm sitting here asking myself, why you hate ColdFusion so much
> >
> > is because every time some one replies to your answers/posts,
> The reason I said:
> I'm sitting here asking myself, why you hate ColdFusion so much
>
> is because every time some one replies to your answers/posts, you seem
to
> find something wrong from that.
>
I am just having a technical debate. My personal feelings don't enter
into it. If I let my pers
:]
Pablo Varando
http://www.cfpablo.com
http://www.easycfm.com
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From: "Tony Weeg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 6:52 PM
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
> gratzie pablo, eloquently st
gratzie pablo, eloquently stated !!!
tw
-Original Message-
From: Pablo Varando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 9:43 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
I will agree that at times there are good tools you can implement to get
the
job done faster.
A few
the best.
Otherwise, we wouldn't be on this list
Pablo Varando
http://www.cfpablo.com
http://www.easycfm.com
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From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 6:20 PM
S
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To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
> Pablo Varando wrote:
> > The emai spooling in most cases happens so fast, it's not really even
> > understandable why you'd want to delete the
Pablo Varando wrote:
> The emai spooling in most cases happens so fast, it's not really even
> understandable why you'd want to delete the attachemtn first anyways.
I don't. I've just been asked to build it.
> In most cases you don't even realize the spooled email is there.
I see a problem in
> Sure... but the same could be said about ANY programming language.
>
But this isn't ANY-Talk. This is CF-Talk and we are discussing CF vs.
ASP, which makes it relevant.
> I certainly don't believe ColdFusion is the ultimate solution for
EVERY
> job,
> just like I don
> Not necessarily. Truth is that by having it all built in on one place,
you
> are simplying your life, not to mention that when you do run into
trouble
> it's easier to get help and solutions.
>
Again, it is only easier when the built-in solution works. I am not sure
why you are having such a ha
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Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
> The emai spooling in most cases happens so fast, it's not really even
> understandable why you'd want to delete the attachemtn first anyways.
>
> In most cases you don't even realize
get up, go
to the garage, and get the hammer. :-)
-Novak
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From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:56 PM
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
> Well that is just what I was getting
lo Varando
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From: "Jochem van Dieten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
easy to use.
Think about that for a bit
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From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:56 PM
Subject: RE: CF vs. AS
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> How often are you sending your mail? In most cases with email, you want to
> send it right away... in which case, the attachment would be deleted after
> the mail was sent.
Right, after it is sent. Not after it is spooled.
> What type of setup/application are you bui
F-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
>
> Perhaps this is a really loaded question... but what is it that you
want
> it
> to do? I have experienced issues with CF not doing things they way
I'd
> like/expect it to... but rarely do I come across a problem that can&#
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From: "Jochem van Dieten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Perhaps this is a really loaded question... but what is it that yo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Perhaps this is a really loaded question... but what is it that you want it
> to do?
I want to spool email with attachments and be able to delete the
attachments right away.
Since the mail in the spoolfolder simply stores a reference to the file
and only attaches the
sing the future in the present]
[connecting people, places and things]
-Original Message-
From: Pablo Varando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 8:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
You know to this day it still amazes me things people say! Kinda like the
old "Mac
m: "Jochem van Dieten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
> Matt Liotta wrote:
> >
> > I am not disagreeing that CF is faster to develop in. I am simply
> > pointi
e ;)
tony
-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 8:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
> but, to put it blatantly honest, its all about perspective...
> in my mind, if im not building the biggest baddest web apps
> in the worl
> but, to put it blatantly honest, its all about perspective...
> in my mind, if im not building the biggest baddest web apps
> in the world, then im building nothing...and who is the judge
> of that? me. and really, only me. thanks.
>
So if I hire you to create "hello world" in CF, will it be th
What's more important here is where will you, the CF developer, be if
macromedia goes out of business. I remember speaking to a business basic
guru that took business basic to the limits; even writing bad ass web
apps.
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Matt Liotta wrote:
>
> I am not disagreeing that CF is faster to develop in. I am simply
> pointing out that it is not because one particular feature takes less
> lines to code in CF than another language. I suspect that just as much
> time is spent in another language learning an email library's
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From: "Tony Weeg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 4:47 PM
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
> speak for yourself matt, since you dont
> have confidence in your work being the biggest
> baddest
cake! with, can you guess ladies and gentsCF
peace.
tw
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From: Fitch, Tyler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 8:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
Tony,
A little fired up? Biggest baddest apps in the world. Cnn.com,
yahoo.com
Tyler M. Fitch
Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
http://isitedesign.com
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-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 4:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
gt; -Original Message-
> From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 4:47 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
>
> speak for yourself matt, since you dont
> have confidence in your work being the biggest
> baddest web apps in th
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Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 7:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
> anyhow, the truth of the matter is thisif i can
> develop rich cf applications for companies
> in half the time, that it might take an asp coder
> to do it, with half the code, i will, and until something
&g
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF vs. ASP
Hello all,
I am a CF certified developer (missed advanced by three points) but am
thinking of expanding my horizons/marketability. I have started getting
up to speed in ASP/VBScript but the question keeps coming up: should I
even spend any time doing this or should
> anyhow, the truth of the matter is thisif i can
> develop rich cf applications for companies
> in half the time, that it might take an asp coder
> to do it, with half the code, i will, and until something
> better comes along, thats what im doing...
>
I am not disagreeing that CF is faster
2 2:51 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
>
> > Oh please! You're comparing apples to oranges. Just because
> > all of the cfmail code is hidden from you; it doesn't mean
> > it isn't there.
>
> While I don't buy Tony's comparison
Original Message -
From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 3:13 PM
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
> I'll sell you an object you can call from ASP in one line just like
> cfmail for $200
gust 26, 2002 2:40 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
>
> And the first time they want to do full text searching, or basic
> graphing, or simple things like handling file uploads or using POP (or
> LDAP or server side HTTP) you'll need to be add-on modules and
>
m: Mike Townend [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 2:30 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
>
> And wait until you get a project that utilises a lot of COM objects...
>
> ASP and ASP.NET handles COM a lot easier that CF 5 and especially MX.
>
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:10 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
Matt I think Tony is bang on. Yes the additinal code may be hidden from
us,
but because of that fact we can develop faster and reduce development
costs
for clients.
That said I still think it&#
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> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 2:10 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
>
> Matt I think Tony is bang on. Yes th
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- Original Message -
From: "Jon Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 26
051
f.508.240.0057
-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 4:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
CASE IN POINT
<<<<<<<>>>>>>
Dim MyMail
Dim Ms
> Oh please! You're comparing apples to oranges. Just because
> all of the cfmail code is hidden from you; it doesn't mean
> it isn't there.
While I don't buy Tony's comparison in full (there are certainly cleaner
ways to write the ASP code), I think you're missing the point. Sure, all the
same
st of goods, not to mention the time you'll save
them too.
--- Ben
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
> Yeah but unless you're hosting it for them, they will have
>
:47
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
Oh please! You're comparing apples to oranges. Just because all of the
cfmail code is hidden from you; it doesn't mean it isn't there.
Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
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No reason to buy an older ASP book if that's what you mean. The
languages are basically the same, except for VBScript finally being
typed, and getting decent error handling.
ASP has always been more about integrating COM objects than anything.
A tag in cf = com object in asp...
The CLR is conceptu
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> http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> V: 415-577-8070
> F: 415-341-8906
> P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 1:35 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: CF v
> Yeah but unless you're hosting it for them, they will have
> to pay an additional amount of money to buy CF Server to
> run that easier code. While certain things like that are
> much easier to code in CF, if you're trying to get a
> customer and it's a big site, $500 could be the difference
Learn ASP as much as you can. This way, it is easier to re-write
everything in CF.
At 02:43 PM 8/26/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I am a CF certified developer (missed advanced by three points) but am
>thinking of expanding my horizons/marketability. I have started getting
>up to spe
-Original Message-
> From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 1:35 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
>
> CASE IN POINT
>
> <<<<<<<>>>>>>
>
> ***
> Hello all,
> I am a CF certified developer (missed advanced by three points) but am
> thinking of expanding my horizons/marketability. I have started getting
> up to speed in ASP/VBScript but the question keeps coming up: should I
> even spend any time doing this or should I just concentrate
nce between you
getting a job or a competitor.
Robert Everland III
Web Developer Extraordinaire
Dixon Ticonderoga Company
http://www.dixonusa.com
-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 4:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
CASE IN POINT!
Compared to this..
some stuff here.
there is no comparison, the only thing we need to do with asp is Port it
to CFML
so that our clients get what they deserve!
..tony
Tony Weeg
Senior Web Developer
Information System Design
Navtrak, Inc.
Fleet Management Solution
rroll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 4:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
My .02 is:
If you 'put all your eggs in one basket' you lock yourself out of another
potentially rewarding market: the website/application UPGRADE.
People may have existing sites in
Being that I'm finally going to learn some ASP and PHP, I have a quick
question regarding ASP and ASP.NET. I have taken a quick look at ASP 2 or 3
(can't remember which) which was long enough to know that it was never going
to be a favourite like CF. My question is what is the difference (langua
. c o m
-Original Message-
From: Perez, Jimmy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 12:44 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF vs. ASP
Hello all,
I am a CF certified developer (missed advanced by three points) but am
thinking of expanding my horizons/marketability. I have st
site
(Red Hat, Resin, PostgreSQL) [yes I said production, as in live, on Resin.
It worked very well].
My 2 cents.
-Original Message-
From: Perez, Jimmy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 12:44 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF vs. ASP
Hello all,
I am a CF certified
As long as the price is right... :)
Thanks
-Original Message-
From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 2:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
Use the right tool for the job. And if you have to ask if you should keep
all your eggs in one basket then I
My .02 is:
If you 'put all your eggs in one basket' you lock yourself out of another
potentially rewarding market: the website/application UPGRADE.
People may have existing sites in .asp, .php, etc that are perfectly usable
and functional... and they want to add functionality. If you only know
Sooner or later you, as a web developer, will run into a situation where CF
is not an option (client choice, server restrictions, etc.). When this
happens, if you haven't learned ASP/VBScript, or some other suitable
technology, then you probably won't be able to work on the project.
With ASP ava
the one thing i know to do the job". there are light years of
difference between the two.
chris olive
-Original Message-
From: Perez, Jimmy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 3:44 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF vs. ASP
Hello all,
I am a CF certified developer
Use the right tool for the job. And if you have to ask if you should keep
all your eggs in one basket then I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.
On Mon, 26 Aug 2002, Perez, Jimmy wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am a CF certified developer (missed advanced by three points) but am thinking of
>expandin
Hello all,
I am a CF certified developer (missed advanced by three points) but am thinking of
expanding my horizons/marketability. I have started getting up to speed in
ASP/VBScript but the question keeps coming up: should I even spend any time doing
this or should I just concentrate on CF?
ColdFusion is available in 2 flavours :
ColdFusion Server Professional &
ColdFusion Server Enterprise
ColdFusion Enterprise is the largest/boldest of the family and has the
most features. There IS a 30 day trial download of this product from
the site which after 30 days expire it will turn in
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