Re: CFML broadcasting app

2010-08-08 Thread David McCan
We wrote an email marketing system that we used for about 8 years. Our experience was that CFMAIL, since CF 7 at least, is plenty fast enough to send out very large numbers of emails. The ColdFusion programming was the easy side of things. The challenges were on the systems side. Email

Re: CFML broadcasting app

2010-08-08 Thread Reed Powell
Here is what I've learned over the past week on this topic (talk about a timely posting). I have a simple app that I use to send email blasts to my neighbors about neighborhood events, etc. There is a database with the emails (about 150 records), and I just loop over it and do a CFMAIL to

Re: CFML broadcasting app

2010-08-08 Thread Wil Genovese
The other moral of the story is to run your own mail server. Odds are you won't be blacklisting yourself ;-) Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator Wil Genovese Consulting wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Aug 8, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Reed Powell wrote: So

Re: CFML broadcasting app

2010-08-08 Thread Ben Conner
As an ISP, it isn't self-blacklisting that is the issue; if we get crap from other servers, depending on the situation, we may blacklist immediately. Once those limits are hit, you won't be getting mail here, legitimate or otherwise. AOL, Yahoo, MSN, etc. all have similar technologies

RE: CFML broadcasting app

2010-08-07 Thread Al Musella, DPM
There will be a problem if this goes to aol, yahoo, gmail, att, etc.. if you send too many emails in a short period of time, they blacklist you and the emails just disappear. I send a newsletter out to about 12,000 people and a few years ago experimented on how many I could send at one time..

Re: CFML broadcasting app

2010-08-07 Thread Sean Corfield
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 3:47 PM, cfcom cf...@aceligent.com wrote: Several hundred thousand, possible 2MM You really need to look at one of the commercial mass mailing services. If you try to send that many emails off your own servers, you're almost certain to get yourself blacklisted. At

RE: CFML broadcasting app

2010-08-07 Thread UXB Internet
This is much bigger than a CFML issue... I could, and for the unfortunate bystanders, have talked for hours about the problem of email. We are a website design and Hosting company and yet my biggest expenditure in time and resources goes to email and email issues. - oops I started pontificating

Re: CFML broadcasting app

2010-08-07 Thread Mike Kear
As I understand it, the blacklisting services look NOT for large volumes of mail, but substantial and/or sudden changes. I had a spammer get through my defences once and set up hosting with me. Immediately he started sending volumes of email. Within 24 hours our ip addresses were blacklisted,

CFML broadcasting app

2010-08-06 Thread cfcom
We have to do a large mailing in-house. Has anyone written an Email Broadcasting system in Coldfusion and/or can recommend one? Thank you ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: CFML broadcasting app

2010-08-06 Thread Bryan Stevenson
If this is a one-off mailing, do you need a system to do it? If you have the body text and the mailing list all you need to do is: cfset mailBody = This is my e-mail message cfloop list=#myMailingList# index=currMailAddress cfmail from=[your from address] subject=SPAM to=#currMailAddress#

RE: CFML broadcasting app

2010-08-06 Thread Justin Scott
We have to do a large mailing in-house. Has anyone written an Email Broadcasting system in Coldfusion and/or can recommend one? How large do you consider large? -Justin ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: CFML broadcasting app

2010-08-06 Thread Maureen
Many years ago I wrote a system to read the email addresses from the database and send them in manageable chunks using CFMAIL. Is that what you need? If so, let me know and I'll dig out the code from my archives. On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 11:06 AM, cfcom cf...@aceligent.com wrote: We have to do

Re: CFML broadcasting app

2010-08-06 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Don't forget that many years ago CFMAIL was not capable of whatever silly high throughput it now is (I think I've read over 1 million mails per minute). So manageable chunks may no longer matter...just sayin ;-) volume shall dictate approach as always ;-) Cheers On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 13:11

Re: CFML broadcasting app

2010-08-06 Thread Maureen
CFMail wasn't the problem then..the mail server bandwidth was. Chunks are configurable as well. On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Bryan Stevenson br...@electricedgesystems.com wrote: Don't forget that many years ago CFMAIL was not capable of whatever silly high throughput it now is (I think

Re: CFML broadcasting app

2010-08-06 Thread Bryan Stevenson
ahhhthat was MANY many years ago then ;-) On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 13:44 -0700, Maureen wrote: CFMail wasn't the problem then..the mail server bandwidth was. Chunks are configurable as well. On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Bryan Stevenson br...@electricedgesystems.com wrote: Don't

Re: CFML broadcasting app

2010-08-06 Thread Michael Grant
Ya, back then CF mail had to actually carve a stone tablet for each message. It took forever. I jokes with you Mo. On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Bryan Stevenson br...@electricedgesystems.com wrote: ahhhthat was MANY many years ago then ;-) On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 13:44 -0700, Maureen

RE: CFML broadcasting app

2010-08-06 Thread cfcom
Several hundred thousand, possible 2MM -Original Message- From: Justin Scott [mailto:jscott-li...@gravityfree.com] Sent: 2010-08-06 14:48 To: cf-talk Subject: RE: CFML broadcasting app We have to do a large mailing in-house. Has anyone written an Email Broadcasting system

RE: CFML broadcasting app

2010-08-06 Thread Justin Scott
Don't forget that many years ago CFMAIL was not capable of whatever silly high throughput it now is (I think I've read over 1 million mails per minute). Remember also that the tag just writes the message to disk for the delivery spooler to pick up and hand off to your SMTP relay (in the