RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-21 Thread Jim Davis
I need to provide a big client with the practical limits of ColdFusion 5 running on a Windows 2000 server. The clients wants to know that the server and the associated MS SQL Server can handle 2000 simultaneous transactions. Are there any published stats that would help? Would I need

ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Howie Hamlin
I need to provide a big client with the practical limits of ColdFusion 5 running on a Windows 2000 server. The clients wants to know that the server and the associated MS SQL Server can handle 2000 simultaneous transactions. Are there any published stats that would help? Would I need to lod

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread cameronc
, November 19, 2002 1:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: ColdFusion practical limits I need to provide a big client with the practical limits of ColdFusion 5 running on a Windows 2000 server. The clients wants to know that the server and the associated MS SQL Server can handle 2000 simultaneous

Re: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Jeffry Houser
Definitely Load Test and / or Stress Test. Load Testing simulates real world use. Stress Testing bangs the server all at once. You can load test with the free Microsoft Tool. I believe it is called Web Application Stress Tool. I like to use Web Performance Trainer (

Re: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Howie Hamlin
The whitepaper also includes CF5 statistics so this should be a very good start. Thanks for the info! Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:24 PM Subject: RE: ColdFusion practical limits Some

Re: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Howie Hamlin
Thanks - sage advice... Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Jeffry Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:22 PM Subject: Re: ColdFusion practical limits Definitely Load Test and / or Stress Test. Load Testing simulates

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Gaulin, Mark
: ColdFusion practical limits I need to provide a big client with the practical limits of ColdFusion 5 running on a Windows 2000 server. The clients wants to know that the server and the associated MS SQL Server can handle 2000 simultaneous transactions. Are there any published stats that would help

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Tony Weeg
-Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion practical limits Definitely Load Test and / or Stress Test. Load Testing simulates real world use. Stress Testing bangs the server all at once

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Jeffry Houser
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Re: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Jesse Houwing
If by simultaneous transactions you truly mean concurrent hits, then 2000 is a pretty big number. If you mean concurrent users then things relax quite a bit, since a user is making requests (page hits) at a pretty slow rate. Just as an example, we had a NT4 IIS static site running with 2800

Re: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Howie Hamlin
Answers embedded below... - Original Message - From: Gaulin, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:38 PM Subject: RE: ColdFusion practical limits Hi Howie If by simultaneous transactions you truly mean concurrent hits, then 2000

Re: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Howie Hamlin
: ColdFusion practical limits another thing to think about is 2000 simultaneous users, is about the same traffic that yahoo gets. wouldn't you say? simultaneous means, exact click at the exact same moment, to the exact same resource, etc if they *really* expect that many *simultaneous* hits

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Jerry Johnson
Management Solutions www.navtrak.net 410.548.2337 -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion practical limits Definitely Load Test and / or Stress Test. Load Testing simulates real

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
Solutions www.navtrak.net 410.548.2337 -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion practical limits Definitely Load Test and / or Stress Test. Load Testing simulates real world use

Re: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Paris Lundis
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RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Benjamin S. Rogers
- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: ColdFusion practical limits I need to provide a big client with the practical limits of ColdFusion 5 running on a Windows 2000 server. The clients wants to know that the server

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Samuel Neff
possible in more dynamic apps--but I still like these results. BTW, it uses an MS Access back end. :) Sam -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: ColdFusion practical limits I need to provide

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
I would hope its death would be quick and painless -- the likely alternative would have been a long and torturous death. I had a client that wanted to support 1 million+ existing subscribers using a single CF server, attached to an Access db and a Btrieve Db, served through a 56K line. Now

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Andy Ousterhout
during system testing. Good luck. Andy -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: ColdFusion practical limits I need to provide a big client with the practical limits of ColdFusion 5 running on a Windows

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Samuel Neff
. Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:17 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion practical limits 2000 simultaneous transactions Maybe I'm missing something, but it used to be that Allaire recommended (as a general rule) limiting the simultaneous

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Dave Watts
2000 simultaneous transactions Maybe I'm missing something, but it used to be that Allaire recommended (as a general rule) limiting the simultaneous transactions to 4 x the number of CPUs. Of course, that goes back to ColdFusion 4 and early Pentium IIs, and there were lots of other

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Mike Brunt
Application Specialists -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:53 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion practical limits I tried to tell them that 2000 simultaneous queries was a ridiculous number to consider but, alas, I am

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Mosh Teitelbaum
S. Isaac Dealey wrote: Yea, that's a rediculous scenario... I have a toothpick and some chewing gum. I'd like you to build the Hoover dam. Can you guarantee that it will support the weight of 15 million gallons of water? ... No we don't have a budget for high-school physics text-books.

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Benjamin S. Rogers
Drop the typical page time to 50ms (easier said than done), and you've got a lot more simultaneous connections. I've always used the term simultaneous in this context to mean executing at the same time, not executing within the same second or, as Dave suggested, pooled but not currently

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Dave Watts
Drop the typical page time to 50ms (easier said than done), and you've got a lot more simultaneous connections. I've always used the term simultaneous in this context to mean executing at the same time, not executing within the same second or, as Dave suggested, pooled but not

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
I have a small content management system built with CF5 on a single Win 2K server. I load tested it with over 200,000 hits per hour. Normal load for the app isn't more than a few hundred hits on the busiest of days. This is not comparable to most sites--it uses a lot of caching which

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG
: ColdFusion practical limits I have a small content management system built with CF5 on a single Win 2K server. I load tested it with over 200,000 hits per hour. Normal load for the app isn't more than a few hundred hits on the busiest of days. This is not comparable to most sites--it uses

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
S. Isaac Dealey wrote: Yea, that's a rediculous scenario... I have a toothpick and some chewing gum. I'd like you to build the Hoover dam. Can you guarantee that it will support the weight of 15 million gallons of water? ... No we don't have a budget for high-school physics text-books.

RE: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion practical limits I have a small content management system built with CF5 on a single Win 2K server. I load tested it with over 200,000 hits per hour. Normal load for the app isn't more than a few hundred hits on the busiest of days