RE: HTML/OS - WRRONG

2001-02-09 Thread Mary_Baotic
We exclusively run Netscape Servers here. Never had a problem. Mary ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives:

Re: HTML/OS

2001-02-08 Thread Stephen M. Aylor
February 07, 2001 10:26 AM Subject: RE: HTML/OS They didn't mention anything about error handling either... Everyone check out this page! :) http://www.aestiva.com/pages/htmlos/a061497.22.18854561327 AJ -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: We

RE: HTML/OS

2001-02-08 Thread Jennifer
At 01:26 PM 2/7/01 -0500, you wrote: They didn't mention anything about error handling either... Everyone check out this page! :) http://www.aestiva.com/pages/htmlos/a061497.22.18854561327 Nice. I just about timed out on one of the pages in the site but I got bored and went somewhere else

Re: HTML/OS

2001-02-08 Thread Jeffry Houser
lsellers wrote: I'm suspicious of any product that does not adhere to standards. It seems counterproductive to create a custom database, that does not use SQL. I wonder how they keep track of users who leave and come back, since it claims it is fully state persistent, yet

Re: HTML/OS

2001-02-08 Thread Michael
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RE: HTML/OS

2001-02-08 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP
They also say it won't run on Netscape Enterprise. Funny, I guess I've been just imagining that it runs on Enterprise like we have here. . . . . Also they must not know about Session and Application scope variables . . . It now says it runs on IIS, but not Netscape yet... The other thing

HTML/OS (Persistant State Management *WITH* cookies?

2001-02-08 Thread Jeffry Houser
Despite their claims, HTML/OS apparently does not use persistent state management w/o cookies. Or maybe they use a different version of persistent. [snip] Enter your login ID and password to obtain access to HTML/OS support services. If you selected the auto login option then upon logging

Re: HTML/OS - WRRONG

2001-02-08 Thread Jeffry Houser
AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: HTML/OS this all sounds really hokey to me. you can't download a trial, you either view a demo or purchase. then it's all web based, what does that mean? i like how on the comparison page they say Cold Fusion won't run on IIS: http://www.aestiva.com/pages

RE: HTML/OS - WRRONG

2001-02-08 Thread lsellers
Funny, i just looked at that site and it does say that CF run on IIS Methinks we have a *mole* amongst us then. I looked, it DOES now say it runs on IIS. That was not the way it was yesterday though. Still says it doesn't run on netscape servers. Haven't run on them in a year or so, but I

RE: HTML/OS (Persistant State Management *WITH* cookies?

2001-02-08 Thread Aaron Johnson
All throughout the site they simply track you by an url variable. If you send the url to a friend, all of a sudden your friend now looks like you... if you close your browser and open it back up.. you get a new session... Persistent State Management? Sure, while you keep your browser open. An

RE: HTML/OS - WRRONG

2001-02-08 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP
Funny, i just looked at that site and it does say that CF run on IIS Here's a concept that maybe you don't use on your sites... They Updated Their Website! Philip Arnold Director Certified ColdFusion Developer ASP Multimedia Limited T: +44 (0)20 8680 1133 "Websites for the real world"

RE: HTML/OS - WRRONG

2001-02-08 Thread Marcus
Funny, i just looked at that site and it does say that CF run on IIS Methinks we have a *mole* amongst us then. I looked, it DOES now say it runs on IIS. That was not the way it was yesterday though. Still says it doesn't run on netscape servers. Haven't run on them in a year or so,

RE: HTML/OS (Persistant State Management *WITH* cookies?

2001-02-08 Thread paul smith
Not if your app changes the URL variables if the referrer is not local. best, paul At 05:22 PM 2/8/01 -0500, you wrote: All throughout the site they simply track you by an url variable. If you send the url to a friend, all of a sudden your friend now looks like you...

HTML/OS

2001-02-07 Thread sebastian palmigiani
Anyone know about ColdFusion users being wooed by HTML/OS http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/010205/ca_aestiva.html Sebastian ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives

RE: HTML/OS

2001-02-07 Thread Thomas Chiverton
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/010205/ca_aestiva.html Cant see anything in that press release that will make me run away... ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives:

RE: HTML/OS

2001-02-07 Thread dennis baldwin
ZAP Designs www.zapdesigns.com -Original Message- From: sebastian palmigiani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 7:13 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: HTML/OS Anyone know about ColdFusion users being wooed by HTML/OS http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/010205/ca_aestiva.html

Re: HTML/OS

2001-02-07 Thread stas
CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 7:13 AM Subject: HTML/OS Anyone know about ColdFusion users being wooed by HTML/OS http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/010205/ca_aestiva.html Sebastian ~~ Structure your ColdFusion co

RE: HTML/OS

2001-02-07 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
: RE: HTML/OS this all sounds really hokey to me. you can't download a trial, you either view a demo or purchase. then it's all web based, what does that mean? i like how on the comparison page they say Cold Fusion won't run on IIS: http://www.aestiva.com/pages/htmlos/061481.7.18510733152

Re: HTML/OS

2001-02-07 Thread Michael
1. who are they? 2. and do they do there homework, ? "Thomas Chiverton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 0FE599B92CC1D311BE8300508BB1D1E98397BF@LON1MLBX01">news:0FE599B92CC1D311BE8300508BB1D1E98397BF@LON1MLBX01... http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/010205/ca_aestiva.html Cant see anything in that

RE: HTML/OS

2001-02-07 Thread lsellers
this all sounds really hokey to me. you can't download a trial, you either view a demo or purchase. then it's all web based, what does that mean? i like how on the comparison page they say Cold Fusion won't run on IIS: http://www.aestiva.com/pages/htmlos/061481.7.18510733152 Having

Re: HTML/OS

2001-02-07 Thread Jeffry Houser
/061481.7.18510733152 Dennis Baldwin ZAP Designs www.zapdesigns.com -Original Message- From: sebastian palmigiani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 7:13 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: HTML/OS Anyone know about ColdFusion users being wooed by HTML/OS http

Re: HTML/OS

2001-02-07 Thread Dave Hannum
ot; [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 10:44 AM Subject: RE: HTML/OS this all sounds really hokey to me. you can't download a trial, you either view a demo or purchase. then it's all web based, what does that mean? i like how on the compariso

RE: HTML/OS

2001-02-07 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP
this all sounds really hokey to me. you can't download a trial, you either view a demo or purchase. then it's all web based, what does that mean? i like how on the comparison page they say Cold Fusion won't run on IIS: http://www.aestiva.com/pages/htmlos/061481.7.18510733152 They

RE: HTML/OS

2001-02-07 Thread Aaron Johnson
: Re: HTML/OS I'm not sure, but I think if I click the link below, they will think that I am you. http://www.aestiva.com/pages/htmlos/061497.22.18854561327 Brings up the same page. Probably has something to do with the user tracking. I was amused by the press release, which stated

RE: HTML/OS

2001-02-07 Thread lsellers
I'm suspicious of any product that does not adhere to standards. It seems counterproductive to create a custom database, that does not use SQL. I wonder how they keep track of users who leave and come back, since it claims it is fully state persistent, yet doesn't use cookies. By ip no

Re: HTML/OS

2001-02-07 Thread Billy Cravens
Yawn... Proprietary db? That alone would keep me from it. Lack of integration with legacy systems, inability to use outside tools, etc. Scalability? Do they support COM, or other compiled technologies? Maybe it's a good product, but even so, it's like building a nice house with a

RE: HTML/OS - WRRONG

2001-02-07 Thread Phoeun Pha
Funny, i just looked at that site and it does say that CF run on IIS -Original Message- From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 11:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: HTML/OS this all sounds really hokey to me. you can't download a trial

RE: HTML/OS

2001-02-07 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
ED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 12:41 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: HTML/OS this all sounds really hokey to me. you can't download a trial, you either view a demo or purchase. then it's all web based, what does that mean? i like how on the comparison page they say Cold Fusion

Re: HTML/OS

2001-02-07 Thread Stephen M. Aylor
I'd like to see that built in DB hold up under about 20 min's of toysrus/autobytel traffic :-) And Im sure that the db's robustness will allow ALL kinds of rocking stored proc's, table joins etc. Query cacheing? Guess no one finds that useful... must be just me Hmmm.. how cross platform

Re: HTML/OS

2001-02-07 Thread allred
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Re: HTML/OS

2001-02-07 Thread Jennifer
At 06:13 AM 2/7/01 -0600, you wrote: Anyone know about ColdFusion users being wooed by HTML/OS When I was a web designer I got spam about HTML/OS about every couple of months. That was about two years ago. It sounded like vaporware then and considering its success so far it seems even more

Re: HTML/OS

2001-02-07 Thread Jeffry Houser
And off of IIS.(someone else pointed that out) paul smith wrote: Especially since Aestive appears to be unaware that CF runs on Linux, Solaris. At 10:20 AM 2/7/01 -0500, you wrote: Ever heard of any of them? I doubt Allaire is loosing much sleep over Aestiva.

Re: HTML/OS

2001-02-07 Thread Jeffry Houser
Philip Arnold - ASP wrote: this all sounds really hokey to me. you can't download a trial, you either view a demo or purchase. then it's all web based, what does that mean? i like how on the comparison page they say Cold Fusion won't run on IIS: