Reading SOAP headers received from Flex

2013-06-01 Thread Dean Lawrence
I'm trying to read SOAP headers that a Flex client is sending my web service and the headers are blank. I am using username = getSOAPRequestHeader(http://mydomain/;, username); to read the header. Does anyone know if there is something special that needs to been done on either the ColdFusion

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-18 Thread Steve 'Cutter' Blades
more than general consumers (not always the case, and an assumption on my part based on my experience). The one advantage we have today over the past is that we have cross browser libraries like JQueryUI and Ext JS, and technologies like Flex (in orgs that allow the Flash player, of which

RE: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-18 Thread Edward Chanter
I'm new to this thread but has anyone having issues with IE tried this: http://code.google.com/p/html5shiv/ We started using it recently and it rocks Sorry if this is a repeat or if I'm stating the bleeding obvious :) ~|

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-17 Thread Russ Michaels
many folks don't have experience working with intranet apps, so may not be aware of how it works. In these situations there is usually no reason to worry about cross browser compatibility as everyone in an organisation will use the same browser, in fact it is usually a requirement and in many

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-17 Thread mac jordan
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: there is usually no reason to worry about cross browser compatibility as everyone in an organisation will use the same browser, [weeps] We are writing a huge intranet app for a client, who has no such

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-17 Thread Russ Michaels
lol, i guess your one of the unlucky ones :-) On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:10 AM, mac jordan mac.jor...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: there is usually no reason to worry about cross browser compatibility as everyone in an

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-17 Thread Roger Austin
Many companies will make policy on standard browsers. They write those standards in the specs for applications when they buy or write them. Back during the time of IE6, it was commonly the standard browser for businesses so developers created applications using IE6 only techniques like COM

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-17 Thread Scott Stewart
The biggest issue is the insanely long ridiculous vetting process.. each agency has its own and they take forever... im writing an app right now against IE 8. On Nov 17, 2011 6:29 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: lol, i guess your one of the unlucky ones :-) On Thu, Nov 17, 2011

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-17 Thread Maureen
Marrying themselves to proprietary technology was wrong 15 years ago, and it's still wrong now. Unfortunately for the taxpayers and consumers, we're the ones who have to pick up the tab when the obsolete tech bites them. On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Roger Austin raust...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-17 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Not the cost of free IE (or that apps only run on IE6 IMHO). It's the cost of the labour to do the upgrade and then the cost of the labour to fix all the network installs that crapped out or otherwise caused users grief. Major disruption to a large organization has LOTS of cost ;-) Cheers On

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-17 Thread Scott Stewart
to move beyond IE 8 would require a new OS, at least as far as the feds go would mean a new machine I know parts of the DOD are on Win 7. I wish that there was a single clearing house that vetted for everyone.. oh..wait that would mean government efficiency and that wont happen. On Thu,

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-17 Thread Casey Dougall
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 6:10 AM, mac jordan mac.jor...@gmail.com wrote: [weeps] We are writing a huge intranet app for a client, who has no such requirement, so we have to support IE6+, Fireworks, Chrome, Safari. There is more time spent on x-browser tweaking than writing CF code ...

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-17 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Try Flex ;-) On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 11:10 +, mac jordan wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: there is usually no reason to worry about cross browser compatibility as everyone in an organisation will use the same browser, [weeps] We

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-17 Thread Dave Watts
Marrying themselves to proprietary technology was wrong 15 years ago, and it's still wrong now.  Unfortunately for the taxpayers and consumers, we're the ones who have to pick up the tab when the obsolete tech bites them. Blanket statements like this are often wrong in specific situations.

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-17 Thread Maureen
Nevertheless, I stand by it, and my government clients aren't the ones stuck on IE6. On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: Marrying themselves to proprietary technology was wrong 15 years ago, and it's still wrong now. Unfortunately for the taxpayers and

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-17 Thread Russ Michaels
not exactly true. If you have a 5 year old app that was written for the browsers of the time, it wont matter whether it was written for just 1 browser or for all browsers, it will still be out of date now and will still need updating for the latest browsers. If however it was only written to work

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-17 Thread Judah McAuley
Not at all true, Russ. Here's a website that I wrote in 1994 that is archived (archive.org only has it back through 1996) that works just fine in Chrome 16, IE 9 and FireFox 8 on a Windows 7 box. http://web.archive.org/web/19961018091409/http://babel.uoregon.edu/yamada/guides.html None of

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-17 Thread Gerald Guido
Making an app cross browser does not magically make it future proof. I have had JS/CSS widgets break going from one verison of IE to the next. So we all agree... MS has made some crappy browsers, the gov't agencies do foolish things, like consistency, are slow to change and inefficient. And

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-17 Thread Russ Michaels
you have to use a bit of common sense here, obviously every app in the world was not written by you and does not work the same as yours, if they did then this thread would not exist nor would the previous comments. On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: Not

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-17 Thread Judah McAuley
Oh, I agree Russ, but you were making absolutist statements, not using common sense. Common sense says: write to standards, tweak as required for individual customer needs, plan periodic refreshes to better take advantage of improving/changing technology. Cheers, Judah On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-17 Thread Jude Blacklaw
you have to use a bit of common sense here, obviously every app in the world was not written by you and does not work the same as yours, if they did then this thread would not exist nor would the previous comments. On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote:

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-17 Thread Gerald Guido
Common sense says: write to standards, Color me stupid but I am not understanding what that means, Write to standards. I ran across the same thing here on this page. http://paulirish.com/2011/browser-market-pollution-iex-is-the-new-ie6/ “Corporate users should be testing their applications

RE: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-17 Thread DURETTE, STEVEN J
a fix is put out. Steve -Original Message- From: Gerald Guido [mailto:gerald.gu...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 3:30 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe Abandons Flex Common sense says: write to standards, Color me stupid but I am not understanding what that means, Write

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-17 Thread Russ Michaels
: Gerald Guido [mailto:gerald.gu...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 3:30 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe Abandons Flex Common sense says: write to standards, Color me stupid but I am not understanding what that means, Write to standards. I ran across the same thing here

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-17 Thread Judah McAuley
There is most certainly variation when it comes to standards conformance with regards to both time and browser. None the less, there are fairly well understood subsets that are supported (and were back then) that form a comfortable base for most development to start. Hence why the website I wrote

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-17 Thread Gerald Guido
: Gerald Guido [mailto:gerald.gu...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 3:30 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe Abandons Flex Common sense says: write to standards, Color me stupid but I am not understanding what that means, Write to standards. I ran across the same thing

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-16 Thread Steve 'Cutter' Blades
that in the Federal sector this won't wash.. (says me working from my federal Win XP IE 8 machine). HTML 5 is very cool, but it's World Dominance is greatly exaggerated. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Matt Quackenbushquackfu...@gmail.com wrote: CF is indeed alive and well. Flex? Flash? Nopers

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-16 Thread Steve 'Cutter' Blades
On 11/15/2011 5:06 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: The CF javascript libraries for UI work (cfdiv, cfwindow, etc) were based on the ExtJS library (which then merged with Sencha). Adobe/Macromedia, as far as I'm aware, never contributed any work to that project but did license it. Going forward,

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-16 Thread Tony Weeg
World Dominance is greatly exaggerated. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Matt Quackenbushquackfu...@gmail.com wrote: CF is indeed alive and well. Flex? Flash? Nopers. Done. Be sure to read the portions from Adobe where they clearly state that for all future enterprise development

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-16 Thread Steve 'Cutter' Blades
Quackenbushquackfu...@gmail.com wrote: CF is indeed alive and well. Flex? Flash? Nopers. Done. Be sure to read the portions from Adobe where they clearly state that for all future enterprise development THEY recommend HTML5 and NOT Flash/Flex. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Scott

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-16 Thread Gerald Guido
Dominance is greatly exaggerated. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Matt Quackenbush quackfu...@gmail.com wrote: CF is indeed alive and well. Flex? Flash? Nopers. Done. Be sure to read the portions from Adobe where they clearly state that for all future enterprise development

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-16 Thread Dan Crouch
@gmail. com wrote: CF is indeed alive and well. Flex? Flash? Nopers. Done. Be sure to read the portions from Adobe where they clearly state that for all future enterprise development THEY recommend HTML5 and NOT Flash/Flex. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Scott Stewartwebmas

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-16 Thread Maureen
This makes no sense to me. I can understand a business or government office being slow to upgrade to new software if cost were involved, but IE upgrades are free, and would certainly be more secure and productive. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Dan Crouch stario...@yahoo.com wrote: Just

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-16 Thread .jonah
It's not that the upgrade costs. It's usually that they have a lot of intranet apps that only run properly on IE6. :( On 11/16/11 5:22 PM, Maureen wrote: This makes no sense to me. I can understand a business or government office being slow to upgrade to new software if cost were involved,

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-16 Thread Maureen
Oh, ack!! It never occurred to me that they would be stupid enough to apps that only run on IE6. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:28 PM, .jonah jonah@creori.com wrote: It's not that the upgrade costs. It's usually that they have a lot of intranet apps that only run properly on IE6. :( On

RE: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-16 Thread andy matthews
7:55 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe Abandons Flex Oh, ack!! It never occurred to me that they would be stupid enough to apps that only run on IE6. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:28 PM, .jonah jonah@creori.com wrote: It's not that the upgrade costs. It's usually that they have a lot

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-16 Thread Maureen
I'm not writing apps that target any browser. I'm writing apps that work in all of them. And I consider it bad practice not to do so. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 6:42 PM, andy matthews li...@commadelimited.comwrote: Not fair to say stupid enough. Many of those apps were written back when IE6

RE: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-16 Thread andy matthews
[mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 8:45 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe Abandons Flex I'm not writing apps that target any browser. I'm writing apps that work in all of them. And I consider it bad practice not to do so. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 6:42 PM, andy matthews

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-16 Thread Gerald Guido
[mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 8:45 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe Abandons Flex I'm not writing apps that target any browser. I'm writing apps that work in all of them. And I consider it bad practice not to do so. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 6:42 PM, andy matthews

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-16 Thread Maureen
I've been around since 1952, so yeah, I was there for the browser wars. It wasn't a luxury to make the sites work for all browsers, it was a necessity, and should have been part of the budget for every project, although I know it wasn't. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 6:49 PM, andy matthews

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-16 Thread .jonah
Well, in some cases for example, there were these things called COM objects that were used to provide functionality that wasn't possible in a cross-browser manner. On 11/16/11 7:28 PM, Maureen wrote: I've been around since 1952, so yeah, I was there for the browser wars. It wasn't a luxury

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-16 Thread Dave Watts
I've been around since 1952, so yeah, I was there for the browser wars. It wasn't a luxury to make the sites work for all browsers, it was a necessity, and should have been part of the budget for every project, although I know it wasn't. Well, no, it clearly wasn't a necessity, as we can see

Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Mike Chabot
Adobe announced this week that they are ending their commitment to further Flex development. Flex 4.6 will likely be the last version Adobe releases and the Flex SDK engineers will be reassigned to HTML 5 projects. Future Flex development will come from the open source community

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Scott Stewart
Hasn't the flex SDK *always* been open source? I think this last line contradicts your statement Is Adobe still committed to Flash Builder? Yes. Flash Builder will continue to be developed and Adobe will work to ensure Flex developers can use Flash Builder as their development tool with future

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Matt Quackenbush
CF is indeed alive and well. Flex? Flash? Nopers. Done. Be sure to read the portions from Adobe where they clearly state that for all future enterprise development THEY recommend HTML5 and NOT Flash/Flex. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Scott Stewart webmas...@sstwebworks.comwrote

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Bryan Stevenson
I suggest everyone read the article behind the link Mike posted. No offence Mike, but you may have paraphrased a little too much there (or it's my own interpretation) ;-) I read it as Flexhas NOT been adondonded and will continue on for some timesome of the Flex SDK engineers will be part

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Scott Stewart
quackfu...@gmail.com wrote: CF is indeed alive and well.  Flex?  Flash?  Nopers.  Done.  Be sure to read the portions from Adobe where they clearly state that for all future enterprise development THEY recommend HTML5 and NOT Flash/Flex. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Scott Stewart webmas

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Everything else you said aside Scottfree does not mean open source The Flex SDK has been free Cheers On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 15:02 -0500, Scott Stewart wrote: Hasn't the flex SDK *always* been open source? I think this last line contradicts your statement Is Adobe still committed

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Scott Stewart
picky, picky picky :) but yeah your right... On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Bryan Stevenson br...@electricedgesystems.com wrote: Everything else you said aside Scottfree does not mean open source The Flex SDK has been free Cheers On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 15:02 -0500, Scott Stewart

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Bryan Stevenson
LOL...sorry manwhen the flames are getting ready to riseaccuracy counts ;-) On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 15:12 -0500, Scott Stewart wrote: picky, picky picky :) but yeah your right... -- Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Steve 'Cutter' Blades
.. (says me working from my federal Win XP IE 8 machine). HTML 5 is very cool, but it's World Dominance is greatly exaggerated. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Matt Quackenbushquackfu...@gmail.com wrote: CF is indeed alive and well. Flex? Flash? Nopers. Done. Be sure to read the portions

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Scott Stewart
:05 PM, Matt Quackenbushquackfu...@gmail.com   wrote: CF is indeed alive and well.  Flex?  Flash?  Nopers.  Done.  Be sure to read the portions from Adobe where they clearly state that for all future enterprise development THEY recommend HTML5 and NOT Flash/Flex. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:02

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Dave Watts
Everything else you said aside Scottfree does not mean open source The Flex SDK has been free I'm pretty sure it's always been open-source as well. You can certainly trace into source code of classes within the Flex class library. And the Flex SDK has always been available from here

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Jake Churchill
It became open source in version 3 I believe. It's been that way for quite a while now. -Jake On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: Everything else you said aside Scottfree does not mean open source The Flex SDK has been free I'm pretty sure it's

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Bryan Stevenson
I'll always bow to your wisdom Davenever saw that before ;-) On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 15:45 -0500, Dave Watts wrote: Everything else you said aside Scottfree does not mean open source The Flex SDK has been free I'm pretty sure it's always been open-source as well. You can

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Gerald Guido
machine). HTML 5 is very cool, but it's World Dominance is greatly exaggerated. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Matt Quackenbush quackfu...@gmail.com wrote: CF is indeed alive and well. Flex? Flash? Nopers. Done. Be sure to read the portions from Adobe where they clearly state

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Scott Stewart
. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Matt Quackenbush quackfu...@gmail.com wrote: CF is indeed alive and well.  Flex?  Flash?  Nopers.  Done.  Be sure to read the portions from Adobe where they clearly state that for all future enterprise development THEY recommend HTML5 and NOT Flash/Flex

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Mike Chabot
Open source is a phrase that can have a few interpretations. In this case it means Adobe is not going to devote any more company resources into future development. I think the outcome will be the same as what happened to Spectra, unless the Flex community convinces Adobe to change their mind. I

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Gerald Guido
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Scott Stewart webmas...@sstwebworks.comwrote: don't get me wrong, so am I but at the same time the HTML 4 world isn't going away anytime soon.. and it still needs to be supported. I did not mean to infer you were or weren't or what ever the case may be. :)

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Dave Watts
Open source is a phrase that can have a few interpretations. In this case it means Adobe is not going to devote any more company resources into future development. I think the outcome will be the same as what happened to Spectra, unless the Flex community convinces Adobe to change their mind

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Dave Watts
Everything else you said aside Scottfree does not mean open source The Flex SDK has been free I'm pretty sure it's always been open-source as well. You can certainly trace into source code of classes within the Flex class library. And the Flex SDK has always been available

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Bryan Stevenson
They say they are assigning some Flex SDK engineers to the open source team...did we read the same announcement?? On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 16:08 -0500, Mike Chabot wrote: Open source is a phrase that can have a few interpretations. In this case it means Adobe is not going to devote any more

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Bryan Stevenson
exactlythis all seems too soon on Adobe's part ...but learning what's coming is always wise On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 16:08 -0500, Scott Stewart wrote: don't get me wrong, so am I but at the same time the HTML 4 world isn't going away anytime soon.. and it still needs to be supported. --

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Mike Chabot
. Would a software architect choose Flex for a new $1M enterprise development project when Apple, Microsoft, Google, and now Adobe have all come out saying that HTML 5 is the future for RIA development? A big target of Flex is the enterprise market where Web applications cost hundreds of thousands

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Judah McAuley
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: This doesn't entirely make sense to me, though - they're not getting rid of Flash Builder. I also suspect that they'll subsidize some of the open-source development, as they've done many times in the past - the Ajax library

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Matt Quackenbush
+1 to corporate spin And no, no one in their right mind would invest in a **NEW** Flex/Flash application. From the Adobe page: /snip *Does Adobe recommend we use Flex or HTML5 for our enterprise application development?* In the long-term, we believe HTML5

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Dave Watts
The abandonment of Spectra was accompanied by a rosy news release and claims of This is fantastic news!  Spectra quickly died. That was fantastic news! (not a Spectra fan here, but j/k I guess) Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Jeffrey Battershall
I don't know - this all seems so premature. It's not like HTML5 is 100% ready for primetime. I think of some of the stuff I do with Flex and HTML/JS seems much weaker as a programming language. A key phrase in the post was 'in the long run'. I don't see HTML/JS being stronger than Flex

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
I miss Spectra. Lots of expensive training lost in a moment. But working in WordPress brings back lots of memory of containers, and late nights tweaking nesting rules. Sigh. But a Flex question. If Adobe stops any further development on Flex, how likely is it that an open source group might

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Raymond Camden
*wakes up* Spectra? Did someone say Spectra? *back to sleep* On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson jmi...@gmail.com wrote: I miss Spectra. Lots of expensive training lost in a moment. But working in WordPress brings back lots of memory of containers, and late nights tweaking

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Emmit Larson
it is my understanding that Adobe is getting more of the JQuery love in its life a I looked under the hood of Adobe Edge, the HTML5 animation tool and it uses jQuery and stores data for the animations as JSON. jQuery is wildly popular for good reason. In many ways it is like CFML, it makes hard

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Bryan Stevenson
They updated the announcementmuch better: http://blogs.adobe.com/flex/2011/11/your-questions-about-flex.html On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 15:18 -0500, Mike Chabot wrote: http://blogs.adobe.com/flex/2011/11/your-questions-about-flex.html -- Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Raymond Camden
We don't just use jQuery, we put engineering time into it - and jQuery UI and jQuery Mobile. That doesn't get enough press so spread the word. ;) On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Emmit Larson emmit.lar...@gmail.com wrote: it is my understanding that Adobe is getting more of the JQuery love

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Judah McAuley
That's what I was saying, Ray :) On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote: We don't just use jQuery, we put engineering time into it - and jQuery UI and jQuery Mobile. That doesn't get enough press so spread the word. ;) On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:36

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Dave Watts
But a Flex question. If Adobe stops any further development on Flex, how likely is it that an open source group might continue to develop it? Well, lots of ASF projects do pretty well. But, they tend not to have that specific a focus - one of the things that a company can bring to development

Re: Adobe Abandons Flex

2011-11-15 Thread Dave Watts
*wakes up* Spectra? Did someone say Spectra? *back to sleep* Spectra can also be used to summon shoggoths. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the

Re: Flex and CF Sessions (sort of)

2011-03-16 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
The way I've done this in the past was to store the credentials on the flex client and re-authenticate the user with these using the CFLOGIN framework. This way the responsibility for continuing the session is on the flex side of things. I'd really rather not do this as it would mean using

Re: Flex and CF Sessions (sort of)

2011-03-16 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
if it wasn't for the issue with the error handling It does appear that this is a verified bug in CF 9.01: http://cfbugs.adobe.com/cfbugreport/flexbugui/cfbugtracker/main.html#bugId=83525 Boy it's frustrating when new features are crippled with bugs that make them unusable! I'll have to

Re: Flex and CF Sessions (sort of)

2011-03-16 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
not even sure there's a way I could handle any unexpected exceptions this way, but it certainly wouldn't be easy and would probably mean dumping the entire Flex framework to do so. It's not even close to a reasonable solution. So looks like using onCFCRequest is out of the realm of possibilities. MJS

Re: Flex and CF Sessions (sort of)

2011-03-16 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
I'll have to play around with their suggested workaround and see if there's any way I can get that to work, as it's the one stumbling block for me with going this route. We decided to just look at adding a timer in Flex to keep the session alive. This should work well enough

Flex and CF Sessions (sort of)

2011-03-15 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
Okay, so we have a flex application running on top of ColdFusion. Basically going through CFCs as web services for whatever it needs. But I'm having a hard time coming up with the best way to handle sessions. I don't really store much in the session, other than just the user ID and whether

Re: Flex and CF Sessions (sort of)

2011-03-15 Thread Jeffrey Battershall
The way I've done this in the past was to store the credentials on the flex client and re-authenticate the user with these using the CFLOGIN framework. This way the responsibility for continuing the session is on the flex side of things. This works with the RemoteObject.setRemoteCredentials

ColdFusion/Flex RemoteObjects

2010-11-17 Thread Mike Crank
RemoteObjects will not return. Just get a busy cursor. Running CF8/Flex 3.3. Any help is appreciated. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag

Re: ColdFusion/Flex RemoteObjects

2010-11-17 Thread Jeffrey Battershall
Mike, More info is required here. Is Flash remoting support enabled in CF Admin? Are the CFC methods exposed remotely? Is the Flex app running in the same domain as CF? Why are you using Flex 3.3 instead of Flex 3.5? Have you tried using a Network sniffer like Charles? Are you capturing

Re: ColdFusion/Flex RemoteObjects

2010-11-17 Thread Dave Watts
RemoteObjects will not return. Just get a busy cursor. Running CF8/Flex 3.3. Any help is appreciated. This could be almost anything. What happens if you add TraceTarget to your app and debug it? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf

cf8, flex and mxml files

2010-11-13 Thread rex
I have CF8.0.1, and when I request an mxml file, it compiles to a actionscript/swf a la FLEX, and I get the flash file. When I have a missing CFM file, I get a 404. But, when I have a missing MXML file, I get a 500 server error, and I get an error message that displays the full system path

Flex/Coldfusion Open source projects

2010-09-19 Thread fun and learning
Hi All - What are the best active projects in Flex, Coldfusion or both. I am good in Coldfusion, but I never got a chance to work in advanced topics. Also, I am very interested in learning Flex and I want to learn by contributing to existing projects. Also, it would be great if anyone can

RE: Flex/Coldfusion Open source projects

2010-09-19 Thread andy matthews
RIAforge.org has loads of projects based around Adobe products: ColdFusion, Flex, Photoshop, etc. CFLib.org has a large number of single serving functions and that sort of thing. andy -Original Message- From: fun and learning [mailto:funandlrnn...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September

(ot) post to Flex/AIR lists

2010-08-05 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Hey All, I looked in all rationale places I could find on HoF to find the address to use to post to the Flex and AIR lists (i.e cf-talk@houseoffusion.com)but no luck! Anyone know what the addresses are? Mike?? TIA Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development

Re: (ot) post to Flex/AIR lists

2010-08-05 Thread Dave Watts
I looked in all rationale places I could find on HoF to find the address to use to post to the Flex and AIR lists (i.e cf-talk@houseoffusion.com)but no luck! f...@houseoffusion.com Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/flex/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http

Re: (ot) post to Flex/AIR lists

2010-08-05 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Thanks for the answer and extra resources Dave! I suppose the air list would be a...@houseoffusion.com ?? ;-) Cheers On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 12:27 -0400, Dave Watts wrote: I looked in all rationale places I could find on HoF to find the address to use to post to the Flex and AIR lists (i.e

Re: (ot) post to Flex/AIR lists

2010-08-05 Thread Dave Watts
I suppose the air list would be a...@houseoffusion.com ?? ;-) I'm not aware of an AIR list here, but if there were one I suspect it would have very low traffic. The AIR-Tight list has a pretty good group of people who can answer questions, and some folks from the Adobe AIR team. Dave Watts,

Re: (ot) post to Flex/AIR lists

2010-08-05 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Thanks againand yep there is one (last post Dece 15, 2008 hehe). Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com web:

RE: (ot) post to Flex/AIR lists

2010-08-05 Thread Andy Matthews
Probably from me. No one uses that list since all AIR development overlaps into one of the other lists. -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:41 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: (ot) post to Flex/AIR lists Thanks

RE: (ot) post to Flex/AIR lists

2010-08-05 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Thanks AndyI kinda figured there would at least be overlap with FLEX ;-) On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 13:03 -0500, Andy Matthews wrote: Probably from me. No one uses that list since all AIR development overlaps into one of the other lists. Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce

Re: CF, Flex and EXTJS

2010-03-19 Thread Richard White
thanks, that is very useful information :) EXTJs, the version that ships with your CF server, is also free to use in production as it is part of your CF Server license. Don't know about Flex in production. On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Andy Matthews li...@commadelimited.comwrote

CF, Flex and EXTJS

2010-03-18 Thread Richard White
Hi we used to use dhtmlx for our interface components but found it was very slow. We were pointed to Ext JS and think it is brilliant. However, we are just wondering where flex fitd in. do you guys use flex instead of ext js, or do you combine the two? we would appreciate any general advice

RE: CF, Flex and EXTJS

2010-03-18 Thread Andy Matthews
The two technologies, Flex and Ext JS, do very similar things in different ways. I'd say that it all depends on where your comfort level is. If your team knows Actionscript 3 (or Java) already, then Flex might be a good fit. If, on the other hand, you have JavaScript experts, you might want

Re: CF, Flex and EXTJS

2010-03-18 Thread Won Lee
EXTJs, the version that ships with your CF server, is also free to use in production as it is part of your CF Server license. Don't know about Flex in production. On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Andy Matthews li...@commadelimited.comwrote: The two technologies, Flex and Ext JS, do very

Re: CF, Flex and EXTJS

2010-03-18 Thread Dave Watts
Don't know about Flex in production. Flex is certainly free to use in production. The only cost to using Flex is that you may choose to purchase Flex Builder for development. That is optional, however. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig

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