RE: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-28 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear
I totally agree. From: Mark A. Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.com Sent: 26 July 2011 14:07 To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Its ColdFusion's Fault Do we have to go through this again

Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-27 Thread Matt Williams
Specifically: One of the explicit design goals leading into HipHop was the ability to continue writing complex logic directly within PHP. - so they do 'work' in PHP, they do not write C++. Interesting concept. Seems like somebody could do the same for Java - maybe a tag based deal with some

Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-27 Thread Russ Michaels
wow that is some Sarcasm :-) On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Matt Williams mgw...@gmail.com wrote: Specifically: One of the explicit design goals leading into HipHop was the ability to continue writing complex logic directly within PHP. - so they do 'work' in PHP, they do not write C++.

Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-27 Thread Sean Corfield
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Matt Williams mgw...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting concept. Seems like somebody could do the same for Java - maybe a tag based deal with some cool tie-ins to a database, email, searching, web services, dhtml, reports ... LOL! I think it's interesting that they

Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Kevin Parker
May be of interest for some readers... ColdFusion is responsible for the demise of MySpace (well one of the reasons anyway ;-) http://blogs.forbes.com/stephenwunker/2011/07/25/4-morals-from-myspaces-fall / ++ Kevin Parker Advanced Imaging e: webmas...@advancedimaging.com.au w:

Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Kevin Pepperman
Just to add to that-- ColdFusion is responsible for the success of Bank of America as well as many other successful websites (well one of the reasons anyway ;-) Didn't MySpace convert to .NET at some point? -- /Kevin Pepperman *Never memorize what you can look up in books*. --Albert_Einstein

Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread James Holmes
I guess when Google+ finally destroys Facebook, the same open source tools he's glorifying will have caused that failure. Regardless, Myspace hasn't run on CF for a long time (as suggested, they migrated to .NET via BlueDragon ages ago). Myspace failed because it was full of ugly sites with

Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Charlie Stell
Myspace failed because it was full of ugly sites with content no-one wanted to read. Absolutely. And to add to it - then came along an alternative, facebook, which was not full of ugly sites with content no-one wanted to read. So myspace failed. On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 6:16 AM, James Holmes

Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread John M Bliss
I tweeted at author: @NewMktsAdvisors #ColdFusion is plenty flexible when used right. MySpace didn't know how: Morals from MySpace’s Fall http://onforb.es/o3s66O On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Charlie Stell charlie.st...@gmail.comwrote: Myspace failed because it was full of ugly sites

Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Russ Michaels
mysapce converted to .net and used BlueDragon.net for any CFML pages last I heard. So no coldfusion involved. On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:53 PM, John M Bliss bliss.j...@gmail.com wrote: I tweeted at author: @NewMktsAdvisors #ColdFusion is plenty flexible when used right. MySpace didn't know

RE: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Mark A. Kruger
Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Kevin Parker [mailto:tras...@internode.on.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:41 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Its ColdFusion's Fault May be of interest for some

Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Gerald Guido
www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Kevin Parker [mailto:tras...@internode.on.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:41 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Its ColdFusion's Fault May be of interest for some readers... ColdFusion is responsible

Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Steve 'Cutter' Blades
For those of us who know better (most everyone here) this is an opportunity. Go to the article, read the author's ill-informed mistake of a conclusion, and provide an educated and appropriate response to debunk the supposition/accusation implied. Don't continue the discussion here. Take it to

Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Russ Michaels
LOL, well he is a Wunker after all :-) On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote: For those of us who know better (most everyone here) this is an opportunity. Go to the article, read the author's ill-informed mistake of a conclusion, and

Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Wil Genovese
I guess it's ColdFusion's fault also that Facebook is suffering from being locked into MySQL? http://gigaom.com/cloud/facebook-trapped-in-mysql-fate-worse-than-death/ Apparently MySQL was meant to be a large scale database. Who Knew? ;-) From what I understand, PHP is only used as the

RE: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Jacob
#3 and the constant spam messages.. that did if for me. -Original Message- From: Kevin Parker [mailto:tras...@internode.on.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 2:41 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Its ColdFusion's Fault May be of interest for some readers... ColdFusion is responsible

Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread David McGuigan
It's. On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:41 AM, Kevin Parker tras...@internode.on.netwrote: May be of interest for some readers... ColdFusion is responsible for the demise of MySpace (well one of the reasons anyway ;-) http://blogs.forbes.com/stephenwunker/2011/07/25/4-morals-from-myspaces-fall /

Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Dave Watts
May be of interest for some readers... ColdFusion is responsible for the demise of MySpace (well one of the reasons anyway ;-) http://blogs.forbes.com/stephenwunker/2011/07/25/4-morals-from-myspaces-fall Taking technology advice from Forbes is probably as bad an idea as taking capital

Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Gerald Guido
Go Steve! Retraction made: (Note–the comment thread below establishes that it was the inflexible implementation of ColdFusion, rather than the underlying platform itself, that created this problem) Well done sir. A professional though and though. G! On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Steve

Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Gerald Guido
Dammit... A professional* through and through *Dyslexia is a biotch... Oh well, point made. * G! * On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.comwrote: Go Steve! Retraction made: (Note–the comment thread below establishes that it was the inflexible implementation of

RE: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Eric Roberts
I told him to come over here and talk to some people who have ACTUAL knowledge of ColdFusion... -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 9:56 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault May be of interest for some readers

Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Sean Corfield
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: http://gigaom.com/cloud/facebook-trapped-in-mysql-fate-worse-than-death/ It's worth pointing out that the person being interviewed, Michael Stonebraker, runs a database company that competes with MySQL (and others) and