Be safe. Get this is writing.
Kevin
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/06/01 10:33AM >>>
Well, after over a week back and forth with Microsoft's sales and
licensing reps, they've come to the conclusion that since I'm not
hosting any standalone apps that will be running on SQL Server, i.e.,
instead t
Well, after over a week back and forth with Microsoft's sales and
licensing reps, they've come to the conclusion that since I'm not
hosting any standalone apps that will be running on SQL Server, i.e.,
instead the data will be accessed through a web browser, I don't need
to be licensed commerc
> -Original Message-
> From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 3:33 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: M$ licensing has me at wits end
>
>
> Since Howie mentioned Interbase a few weeks back, I have looked
> at it quite
> a bit and I believe wi
You can run Sybase for Linux for FREE for development
purposes only. It's a great deal if you want a bunch of developers
building sites and testing things out. For production use it costs about
the same as MSSQL and Oracle (and is just as confusingly priced).
I don't know a thing about Sybase for
Arden Weiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 7:01 PM
Subject: RE: M$ licensing has me at wits end
> Well doggies...
>
> From all the excellent feedback on this issue of "real good cheaper
> alternatives
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- Original Message -
From: "Arden Weiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 7:01 PM
Subject: RE: M$ licensing has me at wits end
> Well doggies...
>
> From all the excellent feedback on thi
Well, it looks like you can still buy SQL Server 7:
http://shopping.yahoo.com/shop?d=zsw1&id=1990344488&clink=dmks/sql_server_7&cf=9
best, paul
At 07:01 PM 3/3/01 -0500, you wrote:
> From all the excellent feedback on this issue of "real good cheaper
>alternatives to SQL Server" it seems I mus
Good point. I thot there were postings here some time ago about how to get
SYBASE free.
best, paul
At 07:01 PM 3/3/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Of interest, none of you seem to be advocating SYBASE -- wonder why not.
> Is it possibly because their web site is even more confusing than M$ site
>-- ju
> Bud,
>
> Have you considered just asking some of the web hosting companies what
they
> are required to do as far as SQL Server licensing? I'll bet if you emailed
a
> few of them they'd tell ya how they do it.
You can reach a great many of them at once on a mailing list called
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From: Chris Montgomery [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 6:39 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: M$ licensing has me at wits end
Bud,
Have you considered just asking some of the web hosting companies what they
are required to do as far as SQL Server l
Bud,
Have you considered just asking some of the web hosting companies what they
are required to do as far as SQL Server licensing? I'll bet if you emailed a
few of them they'd tell ya how they do it.
Chris Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Development & Consulting http://www.astutia
On 3/3/01, Benjamin S. Rogers penned:
>Given this, comparing
>Microsoft SQL Server's licensing and pricing scenarios to other RDBMSs (such
>as Oracle, Sybase, Informix, etc.) would seem to suggest that Microsoft SQL
>Server is priced fairly.
Compare it? How? Microsoft can't tell me how much a lic
>We have used MySQL to great success, but the above statement really
>misstates the case. MySQL is missing many features necessary to the daily
>operation of a RDBMS. It is really only a marginal step up from Access in
>this manner.
>
>In many scenarios, MySQL is (much) faster than Microsoft SQL
> MySQL does pretty much everything MSSQL does, uses less resources, is
> faster, is more stable, and only costs $200 for a commercial licence and
is
> free otherwise. There really is NO competition here.
We have used MySQL to great success, but the above statement really
misstates the case. MyS
>
> I know very little about MSDE or Interbase, except that many people find
> these to be reasonable alternatives to Microsoft SQL Server in Windows
> environments. I believe MSDE can be installed off of the Office Server
> Extensions disc, and is probably a good solution for your company if most
March 02, 2001 4:08 PM
Subject: RE: M$ licensing has me at wits end
> i.e. most of the people running such sites are not properly licensed
because
> Microsoft requires you go on a course and sit an exam to be Microsoft
> Licensing Professional Certified.
> ROFLMAO
> ^_^
>
>
>
atures traditionally associated with a RDBMS.
>
> Benjamin S. Rogers
> Web Developer, c4.net
> Voice: (508) 240-0051
> Fax: (508) 240-0057
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Edward Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 9:43 AM
> To: CF-
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 9:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: M$ licensing has me at wits end
PostgreSQL: http://www.postgresql.org/index.html
It will probably have just about every feature you're looking for.
What features are you looking for?
Here's an interesting article of MySQL
There is one interesting tid bit to all this, at least for SQL7.
"In a full-text catalog, you can run only eight searches at one time. If
you begin a ninth search, Microsoft Search Service will hold it in a
queue." SQL Server Magazine Online - Build a Better Search Engine, May 23,
2000.
So 8
__/
> /_/
> Whoof...
> 410-757-3487
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Aylor [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 2:42 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject:Re: M$ licensing has me at wits end
>
> Full Product at Estimate
nsing and offered a few
viable alternatives. :)
Benjamin S. Rogers
Web Developer, c4.net
Voice: (508) 240-0051
Fax: (508) 240-0057
-Original Message-
From: Arden Weiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 7:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: M$ licensing has me at wits end
O
/(_/
/_/
Whoof...
410-757-3487
-Original Message-
From: Steve Aylor [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 2:42 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject:Re: M$ licensing has me at wits end
Full Product at Estimated Retail Price
http://www.microsoft.com/
Full Product at Estimated Retail Price
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/productinfo/pricing.htm
SQL Server 2000Enterprise EditionStandard EditionDeveloper Edition
Processor Licensing $19,999 US per processor$4,999 US per processor
SQL Server Processor Licensing Clarification
http://www.microsof
I stayed with SQL7. It does all I need.
best, paul
At 08:59 PM 3/2/01 -0500, you wrote:
>I still haven't gotten an answer from anyone though. Is there anyone
>else out there hosting websites, other than their own, and using SQL
>2000 as the database? If so, how are you licensed? I guess with t
On 3/2/01, Jim McAtee penned:
>Hell, if they can't figure it out themselves, why lose sleep over it? Fire
>up the server and get on with your life.
I guess that's the next step. Somehow I figure their roving "License
Cops" probably do understand it though. :)
I still haven't gotten an answer f
Hell, if they can't figure it out themselves, why lose sleep over it? Fire
up the server and get on with your life.
Jim
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From: "Bud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 2:59 PM
Sub
sweet. thanks.
-Original Message-
From: Chris Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 12:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: M$ licensing has me at wits end
A colleague in our CFUG told me about the MSDN Business Connection program.
After being accepted into that
Thanks for all the responses. I'll keep you posted. I guess as soon
as the gal at Microsoft can figure out how their licensing works
she'll let me know. For now though, according to the retailer that
supposedly sells Microsoft Commercial Internet Services licensed
products, they've never sold
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> -Original Message-
> From: Dylan Bromby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 12:56 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: M$ licensing has me at wits e
TED]]
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 1:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: M$ licensing has me at wits end
ok here's MS pricing for MSDN with universal at $2,499. how can i get it
for
$599? sorry if i missed the previous post.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscriptions/prodinfo/prici
2001 10:41 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: M$ licensing has me at wits end
You can get it for $599. I posted about that the other day.
Chris Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Development & Consulting http://www.astutia.com
Allaire Consulting Partner
210-490-3249/888-745-7603Fa
Ag78
> -Original Message-
> From: Dylan Bromby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 9:33 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: M$ licensing has me at wits end
>
>
> MSDN doesn't include commercial licensing, which is what he was
> looking fo
i.e. most of the people running such sites are not properly licensed because
Microsoft requires you go on a course and sit an exam to be Microsoft
Licensing Professional Certified.
ROFLMAO
^_^
*ahem*
sorry..returning you to regularly scheduled serious stuff now..
hee hee
-Gel
www.carigamer.com
MSDN doesn't include commercial licensing, which is what he was looking for.
and universal is only $2,500.
-Original Message-
From: Martin Sutton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 7:21 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: M$ licensing has me at wits end
Go for MSDN
it's subsidiaries.
-Original Message-
From: Martin Sutton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 02 March 2001 15:21
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: M$ licensing has me at wits end
Go for MSDN, you get all Microsoft software for in house use. I think its
$15k / year. Thats worth a look becau
individual and not necessarily those of A.B.C (Systems
and Development) Limited or any of it's subsidiaries.
-Original Message-
From: Bud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 02 March 2001 15:00
To: CF-Talk
Subject: M$ licensing has me at wits end
AAARRRGGGHH!
OK, so. I get my copy o
AAARRRGGGHH!
OK, so. I get my copy of SQL Server 2000 with the Processor license
thinking that's all I'm going to need. Open the box, read the
license. WHOOPS! No commercial hosting allowed under this license.
Seems it's only good for your own personal website. Great deal for
4,200.00.
So, n
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