Re: How secure is RDS

2011-03-02 Thread Dave Watts
Now I did mention that Flex says it REQUIRES RDS to be enabled in order to use Flex data services. This is only required to use the wizards in Flash Builder, just like you need RDS to do things in CF Builder. Once your code is written, you can deploy it to servers without RDS enabled. Dave

Re: How secure is RDS

2011-03-02 Thread Dave Watts
Way back in the day I was told RDS was horribly insecure and I wrote it off and never looked back. Neither RDS nor the CF Administrator should be exposed to untrusted clients. They're both password protected with no auditing of failed authentication events. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software

Re: How secure is RDS

2011-03-02 Thread Russ Michaels
Dreamweaver aso needs RDS for a lot of its features, but RDS is not supposedly to be installe don production servers. If you run CF enterprise, then you can sandbox RDS access and give each user their own login and limit what folders they have access to. This is what I do on cfmldeveloper.com to

Re: How secure is RDS

2011-02-28 Thread Matt Quackenbush
RDS in production is still a no-no. :-) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive:

RE: How secure is RDS

2011-02-28 Thread Ben Forta
Short answer, how secure RDS is or isn't is really not the issue. What is more important is that security fundamentals demand that you don't run anything not completely necessary on production boxes. Your HTTP server is necessary, remote access services (be it RDS or FTP or ...) are generally not

RE: How secure is RDS

2011-02-28 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Thanks Ben/Matt! Now I did mention that Flex says it REQUIRES RDS to be enabled in order to use Flex data services. The only alternative I see is to call the CFCs as webservices instead of as a Flex data service. Calling local webservices would have a tonne of extra overhead.seems like the

Re: How secure is RDS

2011-02-28 Thread Mark Mandel
I'm no Flex guru by any stretch, but I've never heard this one before (and find it kinda hard to believe?) Can anyone who has more Flex experience confirm this? Mark On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Bryan Stevenson br...@electricedgesystems.com wrote: Now I did mention that Flex says it

Re: How secure is RDS

2011-02-28 Thread nic.tun...@nictunney.com
It doesn't. Nic Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone - Reply message - From: Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Feb 28, 2011 6:27 pm Subject: How secure is RDS To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com I'm no Flex guru by any stretch, but I've never heard this one before (and

Re: How secure is RDS

2011-02-28 Thread Bryan Stevenson
OK then Nic/Mark http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/fcf_ataglance_flex_coldfusion.html Seems to contradict you guys I'd love a non-webservice and non-RDS enabled solution, but Adobe seems to think RDS is the way?? I am in no way wanting to use RDS and not disagreeing with

Re: How secure is RDS

2011-02-28 Thread Bryan Stevenson
...and I've re-read the link I just posted and I may be confused about the role of RDS in all this. It may only be required for CFC introspection in Flex Builder 4. I may very well have confused a bunch of articles that said RDS had to be enabled.then landed on the Adobe page thinking I'd

RE: How secure is RDS

2011-02-28 Thread Andrew Scott
Flash development. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2011 11:03 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: How secure is RDS OK then Nic/Mark http://www.adobe.com/devnet

Re: How secure is RDS

2011-02-28 Thread Casey Dougall
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Bryan Stevenson br...@electricedgesystems.com wrote: OK then Nic/Mark http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/fcf_ataglance_flex_coldfusion.html Seems to contradict you guys I'd love a non-webservice and non-RDS enabled solution, but Adobe

Re: How secure is RDS

2011-02-28 Thread nic.tun...@nictunney.com
, however in development the Flash Builder might require RDS to do Flash development. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2011 11:03 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: How secure

Re: How secure is RDS

2011-02-28 Thread Bryan Stevenson
://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2011 11:03 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: How secure is RDS OK then Nic/Mark http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/fcf_ataglance_flex_coldfusion

Re: How secure is RDS

2011-02-28 Thread Nicholas Tunney
Subject: Re: How secure is RDS OK then Nic/Mark http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/fcf_ataglance_flex_coldfusion. html Seems to contradict you guys I'd love a non-webservice and non-RDS enabled solution, but Adobe seems to think RDS is the way?? I am in no way wanting

Re: How secure is RDS

2011-02-28 Thread Nicholas Tunney
-talk Subject: Re: How secure is RDS OK then Nic/Mark http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/fcf_ataglance_flex_coldfusion. html Seems to contradict you guys I'd love a non-webservice and non-RDS enabled solution, but Adobe seems to think RDS is the way?? I

Re: How secure is RDS

2011-02-28 Thread Bryan Stevenson
://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2011 11:03 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: How secure is RDS OK then Nic/Mark http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles

Re: How secure is RDS

2011-02-28 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Oopsone last thing for now I think Nic The article seems to perhaps be more about CF 9 and ORM than Flex and CFis that a safe assumption? I'm asking because I'm stuck on CF 8 for the time being and hoping to avoid confusion between what I'm trying to do and what CF 9 can do ;-)

Re: How secure is RDS

2011-02-28 Thread Nicholas Tunney
The article is about CF 9 ORM, but the pattern remains the same. The ORM methods are generated in cf9, but in CF8 your objects would probably still have the same accessor methods. Nic On 2/28/11 8:01 PM, Bryan Stevenson br...@electricedgesystems.com wrote: Oopsone last thing for now I

Re: How secure is RDS

2011-02-28 Thread Bryan Stevenson
and it was the accessor stuff that lost me ;-) In simple terms are you talking about a single CFC that all other CFC calls pass-through? I've heard that called a facade, but whatever you call it, it is a way of not requiring all CFCs to be of accessType remote when using AJAX_CFC for

RE: How secure is RDS

2011-02-28 Thread Andrew Scott
...@electricedgesystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2011 12:50 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: How secure is RDS and it was the accessor stuff that lost me ;-) In simple terms are you talking about a single CFC that all other CFC calls pass- through? I've heard that called a facade

Re: How secure is RDS

2011-02-28 Thread Nicholas Tunney
Most of my apps use multiple clients. I many times have a serviceProxy and remotingProxy. At a real basic level the remotingProxy mirrors whatever I need in the serviceProxy as remote methods. The service layer can be RESTful (put/get/post/delete), as Andrew suggested, or can be regular