the dark side - using DWMX
I actually never heard about this. Who all is involved in the class?
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From: Daniel O'Keefe
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As long as the settlement comes through from
As long as the settlement comes through from the class action lawsuit regarding ALLR stock.
Dan
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From: Daniel Farmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 12:43 PM
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ALLAIRE FOREVER
the dark side - using DWMX
As long as the settlement comes through from the class action
lawsuit regarding ALLR stock.
Dan
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From: Daniel Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 12:43 PM
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gotta chime in. Been using both HS+ and DWMX2004 for a while now (company
has Devnet Subscriptions :) ) and they both have their strengths.
DW is at is best when a project is setup. This does incur some load time
issues but allows for tight integration of all the components. It pretty
cool when
I actually never heard about this. Who all is involved in the class?
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Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 10:52 AM
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As long as the settlement comes through from the class action lawsuit
Does HomeSite basic have the CFML help complete with F1 access when you have a tag chosen?
- Calvin
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From: Rick Root
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Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 9:53 PM
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Calvin Ward wrote:
Exactly, HomeSite is just
, December 21, 2003 9:45 PM
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Go buy PrimalScript for $169 and use an editor that beats DWMX and
HS+/CF Studio(in my opinion because PrimalScript is more stable) and be
happier and spend less money.
also, since I coe in multiple languages
You can't anyway as MM no longer sell Studio. In fact the only way to get
HomeSite+ is tor purchase Dreamweaver MX/Studio MX.
Peter Tilbrook
Transitional Services - Enterprise eSolutions
Centrelink (http://www.centrelink.gov.au)
2 Faulding Street
Symonston ACT 2609
Tel: (02) 62115927
Daniel
Of course this isn't really something you can complain about since the price
is less than what CFS used to be by itself. Even if you absolutely hate
Dreamweaver, you can't argue with spending less money. I consider myself a
devout Studio/HS+ user, but DWMX 2004 was _darn_ nice and was almost
Huh? You can't even copy/paste code examples into your templates, at least
not in MX 2004.
Peter Tilbrook
Transitional Services - Enterprise eSolutions
Centrelink (http://www.centrelink.gov.au)
2 Faulding Street
Symonston ACT 2609
Tel: (02) 62115927
Daniel Farmer
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You can't anyway as MM no longer sell Studio. In fact the only way to get
HomeSite+ is tor purchase Dreamweaver MX/Studio MX.
Peter Tilbrook
Transitional Services - Enterprise eSolutions
Tom Kitta wrote:
Actually, you can buy HS by itself, it costs you something like $99
and $29 for upgrade. It is version 5.5 which comes with DWMX2004.
http://shop.macromedia.com/dr/v2/ec_MAIN.Entry17c?CID=0PN=5SP=10007SID=46165PID=582404DSP=CUR=840PGRP=0CACHE_ID=0
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From: Scott Brady
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Tom Kitta wrote:
Actually, you can buy HS by itself, it costs you something like $99
and $29 for upgrade. It is version 5.5 which comes with DWMX2004.
http
www.digital12studios.com
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From: Calvin Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:32:32 -0500
Exactly, HomeSite is just HomeSite, which is the html editor...
HomeSite+ is ColdFusion Studio, which is the cfml editor
Calvin Ward wrote:
Exactly, HomeSite is just HomeSite, which is the html editor...
HomeSite+ is ColdFusion Studio, which is the cfml editor. There are
differences.
Well... HomeSite works fine as a CFML editor as well, it's got the tag
chooser and such... it knows full well how to handle
I use HTML-Kit... A great little program ( and it's free ) You can download CF plugins, ASP, SQL plugins ETC I ain't going to shell out $300 for studio!!!
http://www.chami.com/html-kit/
I found DWMX takes too long to load and hogs system resources.
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From:
It will never beat Cold Fusion Studio 5...never I say!
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From: Kwang Suh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 9:45 AM
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Subject: Joining the dark side - using DWMX
Well, I decided to try out DWMX for some coding yesterday...
Kwang Suh wrote:
Well, I decided to try out DWMX for some coding yesterday...
And it was good.I actually liked it.
The color coding was nicer than Homesite+.The browser check was nice.The
css integration was great.I even enjoyed the split code/design view.
I may never turn back :)
Daniel Farmer wrote:
I found DWMX takes too long to load and hogs system resources.
You can drastically increase dreamweavers loading time by going into the
startup preferences and telling it NOT to load the JSP libraries, ASP
libraries, etc...
- Rick
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Just as an FYI, if you are still using CFS5, you should really consider
upgrading to HomeSite+ 5.5.
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I got DevNet, so there :)
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From: Daniel Farmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: December 19, 2003 7:59 AM
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I use HTML-Kit... A great little program ( and it's free ) You can
download CF plugins, ASP, SQL
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Kwang Suh wrote:
Well, I decided to try out DWMX for some coding yesterday...
And it was good.I actually liked it.
The color coding was nicer than Homesite+.The browser check was nice
The main reason I won't do that is because I rely on my custom toolbars
so much.
Besides, they aren't THAT different...
Pete
Raymond Camden wrote:
Just as an FYI, if you are still using CFS5, you should really consider
upgrading to HomeSite+ 5.5.
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Why is this Raymond?
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From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 10:13 AM
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Just as an FYI, if you are still using CFS5, you should really consider
upgrading to HomeSite+ 5.5
application.
Just my thoughts...
Happy Friday,
Mike
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Kwang Suh wrote:
Well, I decided to try out DWMX for some coding
You can have custom toolbars in HS+ 5.5 as well. For a while they were out,
but they are back in now. I use custom toolbars as well.
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It is the latest version, so it has all the latest fixes, updates, etc. HS+
5.5 is essentially CF Studio 5.5. One interesting new feature - you can make
snippets with auto-populating data. So for example, I have a header snippet
that inserts the current data as the Creation: field in my header, as
FYI~ u can make your own custom toolbar in DWmx 2004 in a few easy clicks.
Its great u can mix and match what u use and have it all right there.
if you have memory problems, spend $10 and get some more memory.
i run a p4 2.4 ghz dell with 768mb rdram and dw is very fast
The main reason I
Any particular reason Ray?
is 5.5 any different to 5.2? (which wasn't as good as CFS5 imho)
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From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 December 2003 15:13
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Just as an FYI, if you
It's a nice editor, but sometime it trys to be too smart.
I have an frameset with one of the frames loading a dynamically assigned
url.
frame src="" name=rightFrame scrolling=NO noresize
marginwidth=0 marginheight=0
This throws an error every time I load it in DW because it's trying to find
the
Make sure you let Macromedia know what is wrong with their flagship product. The File Explorer affects non code developers as well!
- Calvin
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From: Rick Root
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Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 10:02 AM
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Kwang
Hi Rick,
Where in preferences is that exactly?I couldn't find it
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From: Rick Root
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Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 10:10 AM
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Daniel Farmer wrote:
I found DWMX takes too long to load and hogs system
Well, you do know that HS+ 5.2 _is_ Studio, right? By not as good do you
mean more bugs? I believe 5.2 had the infamous UI/no custimizing thing, but
that is no longer true of 5.5. 5.5 is NOT bug free (but what is) but is
certainly better than CFS5. Tremendously better... I'm not sure .. then
Another problem is the rewriting of some code. I have a page that does a
cfif to determine which version of a form to show. Some of the form
elements have the same names and IDs but that's okay because they're in
different forms separated by the if statements. But in DW's design view,
if
I
some speed up tips
http://sniptools.com/vault/speed-up-dreamweaver-mx-some-performance-boosting-tips.htm
http://www.dwteam.com/Articles/speedhints/index.asp
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Well, you do know that HS+ 5.2 _is_ Studio, right? By not as
good do you
mean more bugs? I believe 5.2 had the infamous UI/no custimizing
thing, but
that is no longer true of 5.5. 5.5 is NOT bug free (but what
Ah, but you can still turn them on/off as well as setting a particular
order.
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I have stopped using DreamWeaver and I now use PrimalScript from
www.sapien.com - kicks DW's tail any day...
my 2 cents
Raymond Camden wrote:
Ah, but you can still turn them on/off as well as setting a particular
order.
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(if ever). If MM drops HS product line completely they will loose us as
customers since we will move to alternate editors.
TK
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Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 10:28 AM
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thats why we all get personal opinions
i tried homesite and i think it sucks
and sure maybe technically hs is a bit faster but i cant tell on my comp
in real time therefore hardware is does make a difference.
layout is just what you are used to
being able to use extensions alone makes it worth
I am not 100% sure, but if you go to Preferences Code Rewriting and
uncheck Rename form items when pasting it should stop. At least, it
should, if not, file a bug report
Brilliant, thanks!
-Kevin
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1 height=1
The files that I saved ina new directory will have
img src="" width=1 height=1
This drives me nuts.Does someone know how to turn that off?
Mike
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saved ina new directory will have
img src="" width=1
height=1
This drives me nuts.Does someone know how to turn that off?
Mike
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From: Kevin Graeme
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Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 11:48 AM
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I agree. I always enjoyed CF Studio. DW has always been a dissapointment to me. Althought MX is not bad. I do like the built in references.
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From: Tom Kitta
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Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 11:36 AM
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CFS5
I have this problem when I move templates between sites.Often I try to reuse pieces of code and it even does it to includes.
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go to manage
CFS5 Kicks DWMX ass anytime. It is faster and more stable. I
don't care what hardware you are on - the bottom line is that
CFS5 is faster than DWMX on any hardware.
We're talking about a text editor, not a compiler. How fast does it have to
be? On my laptop (which is hardly a blazing
ALLAIRE RULES
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From: Dave Watts
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CFS5 Kicks DWMX ass anytime. It is faster and more stable. I
don't care what hardware you are on - the bottom line
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I use DWMX and there are things I like about it and things I don't.One thing I can't stand is when I have a file in a particular folder then I want to use that template in another folder so I go to file save as..
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you mean they ruled
cant live in the past ;)
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ALLAIRE RULES
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From: Dave Watts
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CFS5 Kicks DWMX ass anytime. It is faster and more stable. I
don't care what hardware you
ALLAIRE FOREVER!
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From: Daniel Farmer
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Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 12:38 PM
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ALLAIRE RULES
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From: Dave Watts
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Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 12:43
If MM could just make it skinnable then it would be better. The big problem (and
others) have with it is that it feels so bulky. There's so many curves and dead
space that it doesn't feel comfortable. If MM really wanted to get all of us
Studio users (you'd be surprised how many people still use
that's fine, I have2.6ghz processor with 1gb ram, and dwmx cant touch hs+
as far as speed goes not even a close race.
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Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 12:44 PM
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,
and that doesn't adhere to our OS like we are used to.hs+ does, so did
cfs5
tw
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From: Mickael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 12:01 PM
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I use DWMX and there are things I like about
tony
put the pipe down and slowly walk away, lol :)~
i sent u some good stuff 4 dw did u get it?
that's fine, I have2.6ghz processor with 1gb ram, and dwmx cant touch
hs+ as far as speed goes not even a close race.
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tony
put the pipe down and slowly walk away, lol :)~
i sent u some good stuff 4 dw did u get it?
that's fine, I have2.6ghz processor with 1gb ram, and dwmx cant
touch
hs+ as far as speed goes not even a close race
well one thing i think they could put in is a set up utility.
Meaning that you could say choose cfm coder and it would disable all the
other stuff u wouldnt use like asp, asp.net, php.
as far as setting it up now it only takes like 3 minutes
I hear ya :)
anyway, I like it for cfc dummy work,
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ALLAIRE RULES
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From: Dave Watts
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Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 12:43 PM
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CFS5 Kicks DWMX ass anytime. It is faster and more stable. I
don't care what hardware you
: Joining the dark side - using DWMX
well one thing i think they could put in is a set up utility.
Meaning that you could say choose cfm coder and it would disable all the
other stuff u wouldnt use like asp, asp.net, php.
as far as setting it up now it only takes like 3 minutes
I hear ya
I had a hard time finding the docs for this as well. It is here:
Using HS+ for Dreamweaver MX / Writing Code and Web Content / Saving a block
of code as a snippet
The dynamic stuff is towards the end.
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Bah! Hambug! with the generalizations!
I'm a coder that prefers DW and chose Design View on first run :)
- Calvin
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Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 1:13 PM
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Good point Steven. I also noticed
If that's the case, I must be a better programmer than you, because I
use jEdit.No sissy snippet functions for me.Hah!If I was any more
of a man, I'd use windows notepad or maybe even edlin.
marlon
Schuster, Steven wrote:
Fundamental difference between programmers and web developers...
I
generalizations are based on my personal
experience and might not be representative of the whole profession.
TK
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From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 2:37 PM
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If that's
True coders don't use just tools, they use their brains. They use what is
necessary to make it run fast, look good, and finished quickly. Or whatever
compromised mix of the above given the available deadline and budget.
- Anonymous
Massimo Foti
Certified Dreamweaver
Looks like Anonymous should have used the grammar checker.:-)
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From: Massimo, Tiziana e Federica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 3:24 PM
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True coders don't use just tools, they use
What does your docs say about dynamic stuff?Mine doesn't even mention the
word dynamic once, here's the whole page (and the next page is about
accessibility):
Saving a code block as a snippet
A code snippet is a block of code or content that you store for reuse. You
can comment your snippets
I'm not sure if this is a copyright violation or not, but here is the
relevant info:
Using dynamic variables in snippets
You can add variables to snippets. Snippet variables take the same form as
VTML variables: $${VARNAME}. When you insert a snippet with a variable into
a document, HomeSite+
Looks like Anonymous should have used the grammar checker.:-)
Maybe he wasn't an english native speaker :-)
No kidding, I've got this quote from a forum many years ago (I keep a small
collection of programming related quotes), I never managed to find the
author's name
Massimo
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I use a lot of snippets, in both DWMX 2K4 and HS5 1/2, and that's pretty
nifty...Thanks Raymond-
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From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 3:38 PM
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I'm not sure if this is a copyright
HHAHAHAHHAHAH
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Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: Joining the dark side - using DWMX
If that's the case, I must be a better programmer than you, because I
use jEdit.No sissy snippet functions for me.Hah!If I
Subject: Re: Joining the dark side - using DWMX
Daniel Farmer wrote:
I found DWMX takes too long to load and hogs system resources.
You can drastically increase dreamweavers loading time by going into the
startup preferences and telling it NOT to load the JSP libraries, ASP
libraries, etc...
- Rick
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