RE: Microsoft acknowledges CF!

2004-05-10 Thread Raymond Camden
You know, I'm probably biased, but you have to love the fact that almost every code comparison shows CF having about half the lines .Net does. I like .Net, a lot, and yes, we all know the # of lines isn't the most important thing in the world, but it was funny how much this stood out, especially

Re: Microsoft acknowledges CF!

2004-05-10 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus - CFList
The one thing that still sticks out to me (I went from ASP to CF almost 5 years ago) is just how much more difficult database interaction is when you're not using CF.I also explicitly DON'T like the presentation layer control that the display objects take away; that's fine if you're a

RE: Microsoft acknowledges CF!

2004-05-10 Thread Steve Nelson
development benefits, IMHO, is huge. But these things are never discussed in comparisons with other languages. Steve _ From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 9:17 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Microsoft acknowledges CF! You know, I'm probably biased

Re: Microsoft acknowledges CF!

2004-05-10 Thread Dick Applebaum
I have done some ASP coding -- mainly converting programs to CF. Not only is a lot more work (in ASP) to put together a SQL query, there are a lot of things to keep track of -- if you forget to close the connection it can affect performance, etc, Number of lines is not everything -- but a more

RE: Microsoft acknowledges CF!

2004-05-10 Thread Benjamin S. Rogers
They also only talked about the general functionality of CF. There are so many built in functions in CF that I think we all take for granted because they've been in there so long. Things like manipulating lists, queries, dates, display formatting. The list of CF's *real development benefits,

RE: Microsoft acknowledges CF!

2004-05-10 Thread Tom Kitta
of a language is good thing, the stripping down of C/C++ into C# is all about that. However, in my opinion, they don't much CF specialization. TK -Original Message- From: Benjamin S. Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 10:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Microsoft acknowledges

RE: Microsoft acknowledges CF!

2004-05-10 Thread Bernd VanSkiver
. Bernd VanSkiver [EMAIL PROTECTED] 801.520.5957 -Original Message- From: Tom Kitta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 8:26 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Microsoft acknowledges CF! What do you mean by shallow support? Honestly I almost never used Java in CF since CF has

RE: Microsoft acknowledges CF!

2004-05-10 Thread Tom Kitta
it executes, could code compiled by CF server be used? TK -Original Message- From: Bernd VanSkiver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 10:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Microsoft acknowledges CF! One thing nice about the .NET Framework is that if an application is designed

RE: Microsoft acknowledges CF!

2004-05-10 Thread Philip Arnold
From: Tom Kitta Is there a way to use CF code outside of a server, stand alone executable (without any server like software including that mini server offered for presentation purposes)? In other words can I compile a cf page and save it in cgi directory? I am just curious since now CF

Re: Microsoft acknowledges CF!

2004-05-10 Thread Bob Ries
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RE: Microsoft acknowledges CF!

2004-05-10 Thread Steve Nelson
-Talk Subject: RE: Microsoft acknowledges CF! Is there a way to use CF code outside of a server, stand alone executable (without any server like software including that mini server offered for presentation purposes)? In other words can I compile a cf page and save it in cgi directory? I am just

RE: Microsoft acknowledges CF!

2004-05-10 Thread Benjamin S. Rogers
What do you mean by shallow support? There's a good deal of Java that simply can't be used directly from within CF. A lack of support for null values is a big reason. There's also a good deal that requires workarounds or hacks. It's certainly possible to use a lot of Java from within CF, but it

Re: Microsoft acknowledges CF!

2004-05-10 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Friday 07 May 2004 22:50 pm, Andrew Spear wrote: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=""> l/coldfusiontoaspnet.asp I guess MS will be buying CF now then... :-) -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited

RE: Microsoft acknowledges CF!

2004-05-09 Thread Steve Nelson
I gave this article a rating of 9 (outstanding). In my comment I told them the article had me convinced... to stick with ColdFusion. Steve Nelson _ From: Andrew Spear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 5:51 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Microsoft acknowledges CF! I thought

Re: Microsoft acknowledges CF!

2004-05-08 Thread mpwoodward
I thought some of you might find this interesting. http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default. asp?url=""> I read this quite a while ago when it first came out, and the biggest annoyance to me is that they seem to pick and choose which version of CF they refer to in order to best suit their

RE: Microsoft acknowledges CF!

2004-05-08 Thread Bruce Sorge
chance of getting repeat business and more importantly, more referrals. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 8:14 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Microsoft acknowledges CF! I thought some of you might find this interesting. http

Re: Microsoft acknowledges CF!

2004-05-07 Thread Matt Robertson
Second sentence of the article: Is there any functionality missing in the target system that might require the purchase of third-party components? -- --- Matt Robertson,[EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com

RE: Microsoft acknowledges CF!

2004-05-07 Thread Kenneth Wilson
Shall we have a contest to see who can identify the most mistakes/inaccuracies/mis-representations in their comparison?:) Ken From: Andrew Spear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 5/7/2004 5:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Microsoft acknowledges CF! I thought

RE: Microsoft acknowledges CF!

2004-05-07 Thread Tom Kitta
This article was there for a while now. I think it is based on CFMX 6.0. It was there before the release of windows server 2003. TK -Original Message- From: Andrew Spear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 5:51 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Microsoft acknowledges CF! I thought

RE: Microsoft acknowledges CF!

2004-05-07 Thread Philip Arnold
From: Andrew Spear I thought some of you might find this interesting. http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=""> us/dnaspp/html/coldfusiontoaspnet.asp Whoever wrote this has some strange knowledge of CF They refer to LESS THAN OR EQUAL TO rather than LTE They also completely

RE: Microsoft acknowledges CF!

2004-05-07 Thread Mark W. Breneman
Very interesting.. I am some what surprised that CF is not bashed too bad in the article. I find it sorta funny that some the CF examples use several line breaks to show one tag. Thus making the CF code block seem almost as long as the asp code block. But a surprisingly fair comparison. But, we