On Friday 24 Oct 2003 17:46 pm, Matt Liotta wrote:
ideas they never implement? Because the practice of patenting ideas
without implementing them into a product is quite common.
And shouldn't be allowed.
If you event a physical device and patent it (in the US) you have to provide a
working
Or at least implement them within a certain amount of time.
Rick
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On Friday 24 Oct 2003 17:46 pm, Matt Liotta
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I still think Eolas is an ass.
This is now off topic
hahahahahahahahahaaa... like the analogy!
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I think the problem is that we have all gone down a road, so far
so long
On Friday 24 Oct 2003 16:38 pm, Matt Liotta wrote:
certainly playing fair.
If they were only concerned with their IP rights, they'd have sued years ago,
and would currently be sueing more than just Microsoft.
As it is, it looks to me like a money grab.
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what an analogy... it is Friday. You win best email of the day.
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From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I think the problem is that we have all gone down
If they were only concerned with their IP rights, they'd have sued
years ago,
and would currently be sueing more than just Microsoft.
As it is, it looks to me like a money grab.
Which is just plain good business currently. If you don't like it, talk
to your representative about changing the
: Friday, October 24, 2003 11:38 AM
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I still think Eolas is an ass.
This is now off topic, but I find it interesting that people consider
Eolas to some how be evil when every other software company has patents
they enforce too. What
This is now off topic, but I find it interesting that people
consider Eolas to some how be evil when every other software
company has patents they enforce too. What specifically is
your problem with Eolas?
Common business practices are often considered unethical (especially by
people who
If he was suing Netscape Apple I'd think differently. However he's
only targeting MS.
It is standard practice to sue the big fish first before suing any
other infringers. Again, Eolas is currently playing fair. Whether or
not we like, they did get the patent and are allowed to enforce it.
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From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 11:38 AM
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I still think Eolas is an ass.
This is now off topic, but I find it interesting that people consider
Eolas
Joshua Miller wrote:
If this was about protecting intellectual property all of the browser
vendors would be in the same boat, however they're not.
It is not and it was never about protecting intellectual
property. It is about the exploitation of intellectual property
to earn money.
Common business practices are often considered unethical (especially by
people who don't benefit from those practices); what people are
allowed to
do by law is not necessarily the same as what they should do.
While that may be true, it would seem to me then that it is actually
the law that
If this was about protecting intellectual property all of the browser
vendors would be in the same boat, however they're not. Microsoft was
targeted because they have the deepest pockets and the lion's share of
the browser market.
Again, Eolas is following the standard patent litigation
Dave Watts wrote:
Common business practices are often considered unethical (especially by
people who don't benefit from those practices); what people are allowed to
do by law is not necessarily the same as what they should do.
Eolas doesn't actually produce anything. To the best of my
At 12:22 PM 10/24/03 -0400, Matt Liotta wrote:
It is standard practice to sue the big fish first before suing any
other infringers. Again, Eolas is currently playing fair. Whether or
not we like, they did get the patent and are allowed to enforce it.
I don't think that being an ass has anything
Since there's nothing we can do about it, we just have to use the
workaround and hope that Eolas goes belly up.
Alternatively, you could get mad at the patent system instead and work
to change that instead of wasting time on the latest company exploiting
it.
Matt Liotta
President CEO
Subject: Re: OT (was Re: Macromedia sinks on sales news)
Since there's nothing we can do about it, we just have to use the
workaround and hope that Eolas goes belly up.
Alternatively, you could get mad at the patent system instead and work
to change that instead of wasting time on the latest
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From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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If this was about protecting intellectual property all of the
browser
vendors would be in the same boat, however they're
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From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 1:52 PM
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Subject: Re: OT (was Re: Macromedia sinks on sales news)
Since there's nothing we can do about it, we just have to use the
workaround and hope that Eolas goes belly up.
Alternatively, you could get
But Eolas is still only suing MS and that is precisely my issue with
him. I don't think he has any intentions of suing Apple and AOL. Which
in my book are still pretty big fish. They have openly said they are
trying to 'balance the internet browser war'. (ie. We're only going to
sue MS)
I
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From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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But Eolas is still only suing MS and that is precisely my issue
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One can find both the system and the people who take advantage of the
system to be less than honorable. And that opinion has no need to be
influenced by the ethical level
alonehehe )
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From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 3:17 PM
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I suppose you could sit on your patent for a while like eolas (lol).
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From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:53 PM
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Subject: RE: OT (was Re: Macromedia sinks on sales news), beat the horse dead
No worries, I'm taking out
No worries, I'm taking out a Patent on being an Asshole, then I'm going
after Eolas and all these other jokers for infringement. Ask anyone I
know, I'll get the patent.
You'd have a tough time doing full discovery on all prior art on the
topic.
Besides, you'd only get a Patent on the PROCESS
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