Re: SOT Confused by CFMX Pricing and Features

2002-11-10 Thread Bud
On 11/9/02, Dick Applebaum penned: Many will likely ask: Why shouldn't I just buy a CFMXJ2ee license for a single CPU, regardless of how many CPU's the box has?. Sure. Just like many ask; Why should I pay for software at all? (then don't) :) It appears that this sort of pricing is artificial,

Re: SOT Confused by CFMX Pricing and Features

2002-11-10 Thread Nick McClure
With SQL Server 2000, you can set in the application which CPUs to use. If I have a 8 way box, but only want two processors to be for SQL Server, I can set it that way. I have seen a few places do this, they will buy a dual processor box, but then set the SQL Server to only use one processor,

SOT Confused by CFMX Pricing and Features

2002-11-09 Thread Dick Applebaum
A potential client asked me the difference between CFMX Server Enterprise and the combination of CFMXJ2ee for JRun and JRun. The way I understand it, CFMX Server Enterprise comes with a JRun tailored for CFMX and you don't get (or get access to) all the underlying JRun functions). So, if you

Re: SOT Confused by CFMX Pricing and Features

2002-11-09 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Saturday, Nov 9, 2002, at 15:21 US/Pacific, Dick Applebaum wrote: CFMX Server Enterprise--- $5,000 CFMXJ2ee/JRun4 $4,300 ($3,400 + $900) Now I am really confused -- you pay more to get less. Note that CFMX for J2EE is per *CPU* whereas as CFMX Server Enterprise is per

Re: SOT Confused by CFMX Pricing and Features

2002-11-09 Thread siva girumala
Please elaborate furtherWhich server is useful for what specific purpose Thanks --Siva --- Dick Applebaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A potential client asked me the difference between CFMX Server Enterprise and the combination of CFMXJ2ee for JRun and JRun. The way I understand it,

Re: SOT Confused by CFMX Pricing and Features

2002-11-09 Thread Dick Applebaum
On Saturday, November 9, 2002, at 03:31 PM, Sean A Corfield wrote: On Saturday, Nov 9, 2002, at 15:21 US/Pacific, Dick Applebaum wrote: CFMX Server Enterprise--- $5,000 CFMXJ2ee/JRun4 $4,300 ($3,400 + $900) Now I am really confused -- you pay more to get less. Note that

RE: SOT Confused by CFMX Pricing and Features

2002-11-09 Thread Dave Watts
Note that CFMX for J2EE is per *CPU* whereas CFMX Server Enterprise is per *server* - if you're on a 2 CPU machine (or more), that makes a difference. Why the distinction? Doesn't CFMX Server Enterprise support multiple-CPU servers? Isn't the multi-CPU support handled by the

Re: SOT Confused by CFMX Pricing and Features

2002-11-09 Thread Dick Applebaum
On Saturday, November 9, 2002, at 04:25 PM, Dave Watts wrote: Note that CFMX for J2EE is per *CPU* whereas CFMX Server Enterprise is per *server* - if you're on a 2 CPU machine (or more), that makes a difference. Why the distinction? Doesn't CFMX Server Enterprise support multiple-CPU

Re: SOT Confused by CFMX Pricing and Features

2002-11-09 Thread Dick Applebaum
On Saturday, November 9, 2002, at 03:38 PM, siva girumala wrote: Please elaborate furtherWhich server is useful for what specific purpose Thanks That's what I am trying to determine -- there are feature comparison matrixes on the Macromedia site, and it appears that CFMXJ2ee and

RE: SOT Confused by CFMX Pricing and Features

2002-11-09 Thread Jim Davis
So, there are no implied benefits to the purchaser, that because he is charged per CPU, CFMXJ2ee will perform better on on (or take better advantage of ) multiple CPUs than CFMX Enterprise Server. Many will likely ask: Why shouldn't I just buy a CFMXJ2ee license for a single CPU,

Re: SOT Confused by CFMX Pricing and Features

2002-11-09 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Saturday, Nov 9, 2002, at 16:12 US/Pacific, Dick Applebaum wrote: Why the distinction? At heart I expect it's because enterprise class software - in the UNIX world - is typically licensed per CPU and so that's what people expect (an 8-CPU Oracle production license would make you cry!).

Re: SOT Confused by CFMX Pricing and Features

2002-11-09 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Saturday, Nov 9, 2002, at 16:42 US/Pacific, Dick Applebaum wrote: So, there are no implied benefits to the purchaser, that because he is charged per CPU, CFMXJ2ee will perform better on on (or take better advantage of ) multiple CPUs than CFMX Enterprise Server. Full J2EE application

RE: SOT Confused by CFMX Pricing and Features

2002-11-09 Thread Dave Watts
So, there are no implied benefits to the purchaser, that because he is charged per CPU, CFMXJ2ee will perform better on on (or take better advantage of ) multiple CPUs than CFMX Enterprise Server. Right. It's purely a licensing compliance issue. Many will likely ask: Why shouldn't I

Re: SOT Confused by CFMX Pricing and Features

2002-11-09 Thread Dick Applebaum
On Saturday, November 9, 2002, at 07:52 PM, Dave Watts wrote: It appears that this sort of pricing is artificial, and nudges customers to be dishonest -- since I can't see how it can be enforced. Actually, in most enterprise environments I've seen, this doesn't really come up. Most server