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-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 6:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
I agree with Ewok, here...I only heard one legal
I would be forced to withdraw, and I imagine that lots of other people might
be in the same boat for the same reason that Jochem and Paul Hastings
mentioned. I've been through this before elsewhere, and I simply wouldn't be
able to justify the risk. And it's worth pointing out that the list would
I would be forced to withdraw, and I imagine that lots of
other people
might be in the same boat for the same reason that Jochem and Paul
Hastings mentioned. I've been through this before elsewhere, and I
simply wouldn't be able to justify the risk. And it's worth pointing
out that the
I was on an insulin pump mailing list that had a message asking for
donations... if you donated any amount, that message was removed from
the emails... I donated $10 and that took care of that...
I honestly can't believe that people would drop off the list if a
small amount was required...
On
to get paid for your work?
Rick
From: Burns, John D [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:25 AM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: RE: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
I agree. I like the list and I benefit from
go for that...how about $25 per year for ad-free
messages or free list participation with advertising?
Rick
From: Larry Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:15 AM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: RE: wtf are those
I agree...seems ridiculous to me to drop off a list because
of a small fee...
Rick
From: Clint Tredway [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:51 AM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: wtf are those advertizing links
There are plenty of free sources of information out there that this very
list offers. There is no way I'd pay to subscribe to a mailing list. Now if
I were to find that I was greatly benifiting from it, I would make a
donation to whoever maintained it. I have done donations in the past to
in a free list? Do you not expect
to get paid for your work?
Rick
From: Burns, John D [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:25 AM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: RE: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
I agree. I like
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 1:17 PM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
There are plenty of free sources of information out there that this very
list offers. There is no way I'd pay to subscribe to a mailing
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
So, $5 per month is more than you can afford?
Or, another way to look at it is: which can you afford
to lose more, $5 per month or the help of those on the
list in your work?
If this is just an issue of principle, why do you
From: Aaron Rouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 1:17 PM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
There are plenty of free sources of information out there that this very
list offers
If I pay will someone kill this thread...pretty plz!! ;-)
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.480.1264
cell: 250.920.8830
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web: www.electricedgesystems.com
: SPAM-LOW: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the
text?
Rick...couple of points
1) can we move this to cf-community?
2) did Mike even say he is considering charging for the list? You seem to be
fighting for something that the list owner isn't even considering
implementing.
3) can we move
Sure...$10 to Mike will get me to shutup... ;o)
Rick
From: Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 1:55 PM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
If I pay will someone
Is your unwillingness to pay a subscription based on the fact that
you feel like you don't benefit from the list? Or that you give more
to the list than you take?
I do not feel I benifit enough from this list to warrant paying to be on
it. Matter of fact I am not 100% sure I have benifited
LOL!!
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.480.1264
cell: 250.920.8830
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web: www.electricedgesystems.com
~|
Logware
: Thursday, April 21, 2005 1:55 PM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
If I pay will someone kill this thread...pretty plz!! ;-)
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone
are those advertizing links in the text?
Is your unwillingness to pay a subscription based on the fact that
you feel like you don't benefit from the list? Or that you give more
to the list than you take?
I do not feel I benifit enough from this list to warrant paying to be on
it. Matter of fact
Is your unwillingness to pay a subscription based on the fact that
you feel like you don't benefit from the list? Or that you give more
to the list than you take?
I do not feel I benifit enough from this list to warrant paying to be on
it. Matter of fact I am not 100% sure I have benifited
Did you not see the word enough Perhaps you are reading a little too far
into the words I pick. Or perhaps you can not understand that I feel I would
need to gain a certain amount out of something that normally can be found
free to then justify paying for it.
Anything offered on this list can
From: Aaron Rouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 3:09 PM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the
text?
Did you not see the word enough Perhaps you are reading a little too far
How much have you donated to be on this list over the entire time you have
been on it?
I randomly get on this list to help people with quick questions more than
anything else. I rarely post questions to it.
Clearly it is not 100% centralized or I would not maintain a presense in
multiple
Aaron Rouse wrote:
I do not feel I benifit enough from this list to warrant
paying to be
on it. Matter of fact I am not 100% sure I have benifited from this
list in quite sometime. I know the last couple of questions
I posted I
never got a complete answer from the list, and if I was
in Washington State? Check out
http://www.attrition.ws
-Original Message-
From: Andrew Tyrone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 2:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
Aaron Rouse wrote:
I do not feel I benifit
, April 21, 2005 1:51 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
Rick...couple of points
1) can we move this to cf-community?
2) did Mike even say he is considering charging for the list? You seem to be
fighting for something that the list owner isn't even
We all gain quite a lot out of using HOF and these lists as well as the
archives. HOF certainly has the right to try and make a few bucks with
advertising on the site. Surely you don't really have a problem with
that, do you?
--Ferg
-Original Message-
From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL
On the web archive I noticed that certain words are
underlined and linked to ads, very much like M$'s smart
tags. Is this something that HOF as implemented, and how
can I turn it off?
larry
Why not just ignore them? Afaik people don't really send html email to
the HOF lists, so if text in
Yes, the list does restrict HTML style email (it's uber bulky for no reason and
can easily contain security risks). Any green link in page content is one of
these ad links. Truth be told, while they are kind of cute, there just isn't as
many advertisers with this company as say Google or
Michael Dinowitz wrote:
It's an advertiser that I'm trying out and it's based on javascript and CSS.
If people do find it overly intrusive I'll rethink it.
I couldn't find any links (yet), where can we see it?
Jochem
~|
Why not just ignore them? Afaik people don't really send html email to
the HOF lists, so if text in the message is linked in the archive,
it's not because the author linked it and you can assume it's an
advertisement (unless the text of the link is a url).
Not all use the mailing list, quite a
http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/messages.cfm/forumid:4/threadid:39
687
second post -- the word IDE
-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 8:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text
Ken Ferguson wrote:
http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/messages.cfm/forumid:4/threadid:39687
second post -- the word IDE
IE gives a javascript error and FF shows nothing.
But yes, I find it overly intrusive if links I never endorsed
suddenly show up in messages I wrote.
Jochem
Hm. So far the response has been negative and I think I'll be removing them.
Anyone know of a good advertising account rep who'd be willing to gather
(and bill) advertising for HoF on a commission basis? :)
BTW, as long as your using the interface, have you tried out the new thread
labeling or
i dont find it OVER INTRUSIVE, apart from the annoying mousovers...
thats the OVER INTRUSIVE part to me.
--
tony
Tony Weeg
macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer
email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com
blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/
cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com
They dont bother me at all. If they did, they are easily turned off client
side. (hint: host file)
Dinowitz has put in a lot of time and work to make these CF lists what they
are. The mailing lists alone are enough to keep us all in touch with one
another but the site and its archives is a big
4/20/2005 3:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
Why not just ignore them? Afaik people don't really send html email to
the HOF lists, so if text in the message is linked in the archive,
it's not because the author linked it and you can assume it's
Hm. So far the response has been negative and I think I'll be removing them.
Anyone know of a good advertising account rep who'd be willing to gather
(and bill) advertising for HoF on a commission basis? :)
BTW, as long as your using the interface, have you tried out the new thread
labeling
mailing list
-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 20 April 2005 14:36
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
Hm. So far the response has been negative and I think I'll be removing them.
Anyone know of a good
Michael Dinowitz wrote:
Hm. So far the response has been negative and I think I'll be removing them.
Anyone know of a good advertising account rep who'd be willing to gather
(and bill) advertising for HoF on a commission basis? :)
Instead of using the contextual text links for advertising,
Google adsense is paying well for me on one of my personal sites too.
-Original Message-
From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2005 10:32
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
Michael Dinowitz wrote:
Hm. So far
-Original Message-
From: Ewok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 10:02 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
They don't bother me at all. If they did, they are easily turned off
client
side. (hint: host file)
They don't
-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 6:35 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
i dont find it OVER INTRUSIVE, apart from the annoying mousovers...
thats the OVER INTRUSIVE part to me
have the choice to turn of ads when they pay for it. It imho also
gives something back to Michael for his hard work.
Micha.
From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 3:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: wtf are those advertizing links
My opinion is you can do anything with *your* list that
you like, Michael...I certainly don't mind you making all
the money you can on it, especially with something as
inobtrusive as links to keywords.
Anyone who doesn't like you trying to make money off the list
to help support it, or even to
It would be funny to see one of Dave's I hate f*#%$ Microsoft!! posts
advertising a Microsoft product without his permission :O
~|
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There is a balance between doing anything I want and doing things that will
alienate list members. In the past I had graphic banner ads on the list
emails. Some did not like it and were vocal about it (even though there was
a non-graphic version of the emails). Some left. In the end, I removed
: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:55 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
It would be funny to see one of Dave's I hate f*#%$ Microsoft!! posts
advertising a Microsoft product without his permission :O
: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 10:03 AM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: RE: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
Maybe Michael could introduce a subscription service with a small fee, so
people have the choice to turn of ads when they pay for it. It imho also gives
something
-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
I've been thinking of a small fee for the ability to 'turn off' ads and
maybe some other added features. Problem is that I hate charging people and
want to give all the features directly. I'll rethink it all
are those advertizing links in the text?
It would be funny to see one of Dave's I hate f*#%$ Microsoft!! posts
advertising a Microsoft product without his permission :O
~|
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Rick Faircloth wrote:
Now, that's the best idea I've heard...
Let people pay for a subscription for no ads, otherwise
ads are turned on...and if anyone doesn't want links in
their posts, they have the option not to post (and I don't
know of anyone whose input this list can't survive
-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
Rick Faircloth wrote:
Now, that's the best idea I've heard...
Let people pay for a subscription for no ads, otherwise
ads are turned on...and if anyone doesn't want
-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 12:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
Rick Faircloth wrote:
Now, that's the best idea I've heard...
Let people pay for a subscription
!
-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 20 April 2005 17:21
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
Rick Faircloth wrote:
Now, that's the best idea I've heard...
Let people pay for a subscription for no ads, otherwise
are those advertizing links in the text?
Rick Faircloth wrote:
Now, that's the best idea I've heard...
Let people pay for a subscription for no ads, otherwise
ads are turned on...and if anyone doesn't want links in
their posts, they have the option not to post (and I don't
know of anyone whose
Kerry wrote:
pull the copyright card
my email is my original work and I don't want links in there that I didn't
put in there myself
Did you notice these links at the bottom of your email Jochem?
Did you read my email?
Advertisements on the sides, above, below, popups, popunders are
all no
Woah. If this list went to a monthly/yearly subscription you can
expect a severe drop in subscribers. Many times, especially the last
few days, I've contemplated dropping of this list. As many people seem
to confuse this list and thier own personal blog. In all honesty, if I
cared about your
, 2005 12:49 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
Woah. If this list went to a monthly/yearly subscription you can
expect a severe drop in subscribers. Many times, especially the last
few days, I've contemplated dropping of this list. As many people seem
to confuse
a month?
Rick
From: Adrocknaphobia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 12:46 PM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
Woah. If this list went to a monthly/yearly subscription you can
and newbies
would not have the knowledge of the experienced users to draw from.
- Matt Small
-Original Message-
From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 12:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
I feel that if it went
Firefox's AdBlock extension is the king of ending web annoyances.
block: *intellitxt*
-nathan strutz
Jochem van Dieten wrote:
Ken Ferguson wrote:
http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/messages.cfm/forumid:4/threadid:39687
second post -- the word IDE
IE gives a javascript error and FF
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: RE: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
I feel that if it went to a subscription fee (which I think it should), it
would raise the level of discussion and it would allow Michael to be a
little more aggressive to what is acceptable
If this list went to a monthly/yearly subscription you can
expect a severe drop in subscribers.
I believe the suggestion was to have it be an optional subscription, if you
don't want the links. I think that's a reasonable compromise, although $10 a
month seems pretty high to me just to not
Rick Faircloth wrote:
Why is protecting your work (personally, I wouldn't
classify answering questions people post to this list as work)
in an absolutely unchanged state so important to you?
The imperative is not work but original work because that is
a key concept in copyright law. Also,
paying about
30 cents a day...
Rick
From: Matthew Small [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:03 PM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: RE: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
If it did go to a subscription basis, I think
-Original Message-
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
If it did go to a subscription basis, I think there would be some
immediate
dropoff in existing users
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Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:10 PM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
If this list went to a monthly/yearly subscription you can
expect a severe drop in subscribers.
I believe the suggestion was to have it be an optional
$20 bucks a year, from the 2000+ people... thats a nice chunk of
change for mike for this? yes?
I believe the suggestion was to have it be an optional subscription, if you
don't want the links. I think that's a reasonable compromise, although $10 a
month seems pretty high to me just to not
@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
Rick Faircloth wrote:
Why is protecting your work (personally, I wouldn't
classify answering questions people post to this list as work)
in an absolutely unchanged state so important to you?
The imperative is not work
Jochem van Dieten wrote:
But if I write something on a subject and recommend vendor X, I
consider it a substantial change if suddenly every occurence of
subject were to be linked to vendor Y. A vendor which I may not
know or worse, have bad experiences with.
i'm with jochem on this. i've
value we get. (Not directed
at you, personally, Jim :o)
Rick
From: Jim Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:19 PM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: RE: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
-Original Message
I've been thinking of a small fee for the ability to 'turn off' ads and
maybe some other added features. Problem is that I hate charging people and
want to give all the features directly. I'll rethink it all.
That sounds like a very good idea. I'd pay for something like that.
regards,
larry
to him!
I would be happy for him if he made $1,000,000 per year
at $20 a year from us!
Rick
From: Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:24 PM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text
On 4/20/05, Adrocknaphobia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Woah. If this list went to a monthly/yearly subscription you can
expect a severe drop in subscribers. Many times, especially the last
few days, I've contemplated dropping of this list. As many people seem
to confuse this list and thier own
On 4/20/05, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The only ones to drop from the list would be those who thought
they knew so much that they would rarely or never have a question
that they needed an answer to, or those who already know everything
and don't care to help others...
I disagree.
-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
$20 bucks a year, from the 2000+ people... thats a nice chunk of
change for mike for this? yes?
We've looked
Jochem is correct here in that his email is his work even if it's posted to
a public forum. While I do trim out extra quoted material and remove email
addresses and the like, the original work sent by someone should be sacred.
For this reason alone I should remove the advertising and I have.
From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
might accept... that's how I get InfoWorld and Software
Development Magazine).
Not to hijack the thread, but SD is a great read. Back to the regularly
scheduled OT whirlwind post flurry.
-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
Anyone who would demand extras in order to pay
would really be taking advantage of Mike...
Nobody
cheap bastards!
We've looked into this - you can't assume a 1:1 ratio if you went paid.
Mike might easily lose 95% or more of his subscribers if he went pay-only.
It's just a sad fact of the world.
--
tony
Tony Weeg
macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer
email: tonyweeg [at] gmail
Not really. There are lots of alternate resource out there. None as large or
active as HoF, but they could be. I'd rather grow HoF in features than force
people away with charging or things (like the inline ads) that turn them
off.
Rather than charge people or offer an ad free version of the
On 4/20/05, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's why I think the ad approach is better. But,
if the only way for it to pay off is putting links
in the content, then it should go that way.
Yeah, I meant to say that I have no problem whatsoever with Michael
putting ad links in the web
still think it's funny how a simple entry in a host file could have solved
this whole thing.
-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
But...again...it's
Actually, I took them off for 2 reasons and 'whining' wasn't one of them.
1. This was an experiment to see if it was a valid form of advertising and
how people would react.
2. It really is an invasion of the content that people put onto the site and
it really isn't right of me to alter that
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Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 3:51 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
Actually, I took them off for 2 reasons and 'whining' wasn't one of them.
1. This was an experiment to see if it was a valid form of advertising and
how people would react.
2
whatever advertising he chooses to employ. Sounds fair to me...
Rick
From: Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 2:50 PM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
On 4/20/05
-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
Not really. There are lots of alternate resource out there. None as large or
active as HoF, but they could be. I'd rather grow HoF in features than force
people away with charging or things (like the inline
From: Ewok [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 3:42 PM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: RE: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
I hate that Michael took the link ads off because of some whining. Oh this
is mine oh I wrote it, I should have the final say wha
: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 3:08 PM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
Not really. There are lots of alternate resource out there. None as large or
active as HoF, but they could be. I'd rather grow HoF in features than force
people away
who don't like it...
Rick
From: Ewok [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 4:00 PM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: RE: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
I listened to peoples feedback on it. I balanced what
Whoa! I'd have to take out a loan every month to cover my costs! :o)
Rick
From: Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 5:52 PM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text
I agree with Ewok, here...I only heard one legal threat from
a participant and a concern about what the content would be
linked to from me...didn't see one other objection...
I would be forced to withdraw, and I imagine that lots of other people might
be in the same boat for the same reason
to be without their
input...but one or two can't hold a couple of thousand captive...
Rick
From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 6:25 PM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: RE: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
I
Oh...and I meant to include you in that list of those whose
input is very valuable to the list, Dave...
Rick
From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 6:25 PM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: RE: wtf are those
desire them to as well, fwiw.
- Calvin
-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 7:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
I assume you're talking about the links the in content...right?
And, yes
that I
didn't expressly desire them to as well, fwiw.
- Calvin
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From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 7:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
I assume you're talking about the links
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