Re: Javascript Remoting (js web service accessing stuff)

2004-04-07 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Wednesday 07 Apr 2004 03:24 am, Rob wrote: dh = new DefaultHandler(messages); Ahh ha, cheers to you both :-) Dick mentions it is more stright forward in synch. mode - I assume this applies to the gubbins around the code for neuromancer, rather than to the neuromancer stuff itself ? :plays

Re: Javascript Remoting (js web service accessing stuff)

2004-04-07 Thread Rob
On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 05:24, Thomas Chiverton wrote: On Wednesday 07 Apr 2004 03:24 am, Rob wrote: dh = new DefaultHandler(messages); Ahh ha, cheers to you both :-) Dick mentions it is more stright forward in synch. mode - I assume this applies to the gubbins around the code for

Re: Javascript Remoting (js web service accessing stuff)

2004-04-06 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Thursday 01 Apr 2004 17:33 pm, Dick Applebaum wrote: This Thin Array contains very little non-data overhead and can be sent to the client, quickly with minimal bandwidth usage (and very few processing cycles to serialize/de-serialize at either end) . Do you have any idea how much quicker

Re: Javascript Remoting (js web service accessing stuff)

2004-04-06 Thread Dick Applebaum
Thomas It is very much quicker! When I originally got the idea for the thin array it was for an application that had up to 5 selects related. Rather than load them dynamically, as the user chooses, I preloaded the entire set of data with the initial page load, The time to download the thin

Re: Javascript Remoting (js web service accessing stuff)

2004-04-06 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Tuesday 06 Apr 2004 16:10 pm, Dick Applebaum wrote: It is very much quicker! :experiments In the chatdemo, what tells it to link the messages ThinArray _javascript_ object, to the query returned byrobject.getMessages (that I can see calls a web service) ? -- Tom Chiverton Advanced

Re: Javascript Remoting (js web service accessing stuff)

2004-04-06 Thread Dick Applebaum
Rob can answer this much better than I, but he is N/A. So here goes Keep in mind the chat is multi-threaded: where the messages are retrieved and refreshed in a background thread;while the user may be typing in a foreground thread. // sets up a thin arrayobject named message var messages =

Re: Javascript Remoting (js web service accessing stuff)

2004-04-06 Thread Rob
On Apr 6, 2004, at 10:09 AM, Thomas Chiverton wrote: In the chatdemo, what tells it to link the messages ThinArray _javascript_ object, to the query returned byrobject.getMessages (that I can see calls a web service) ? On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 10:40, Dick Applebaum wrote: // sets up a

Re: Javascript Remoting (js web service accessing stuff)

2004-04-01 Thread Dick Applebaum
I have been playing with Rob Rohan's Neuromancer system since he first posted several weeks ago. Rob's system is much more than a chat app -- though a chat really shows it off. I wanted to do some PIA (Robs acronym for Poor Internet/Interface Application) apps where data exchange speed between

RE: Javascript Remoting (js web service accessing stuff)

2004-04-01 Thread Whittingham, P
Dick or Rob, Does the PIA take inconsideration if the web service is down/network problems?? Is there a timeout time/message if that occurs? TIA, Patrick Whittingham United Space Alliance AES - Data Warehouse -Original Message- From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

RE: Javascript Remoting (js web service accessing stuff)

2004-04-01 Thread Rob
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 10:42, Whittingham, P wrote: Dick or Rob, Does the PIA take inconsideration if the web service is down/network problems?? Is there a timeout time/message if that occurs? At present it does not, but the headers are returned when the ws call is made so you could check for

RE: Javascript Remoting (js web service accessing stuff)

2004-04-01 Thread Rob
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 11:00, Rob wrote: On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 10:42, Whittingham, P wrote: Dick or Rob, Does the PIA take inconsideration if the web service is down/network problems?? Is there a timeout time/message if that occurs? At present it does not, but the headers are returned

RE: Javascript Remoting (js web service accessing stuff)

2004-04-01 Thread Whittingham, P
what about if the web service does a query to a database on a different server then the web service server. The problem could be the web service box(down) or the db box(down). Isn't multi-tier environment just wonderful:) Pat -Original Message- From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Javascript Remoting (js web service accessing stuff)

2004-04-01 Thread Rob
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 11:27, Whittingham, P wrote: what about if the web service does a query to a database on a different server then the web service server. The problem could be the web service box(down) or the db box(down). Isn't multi-tier environment just wonderful:) Yeah that's

Re: Javascript Remoting (js web service accessing stuff)

2004-04-01 Thread Dick Applebaum
I would think you could write t the service cfc to put a try block around the db request with a timeout then return an indication to the client/consumer Dich On Apr 1, 2004, at 11:32 AM, Rob wrote: On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 11:27, Whittingham, P wrote: what about if the web service does a

RE: Javascript Remoting (js web service accessing stuff)

2004-03-31 Thread Whittingham, P
Rob, I like your code alot. Does it works with a cfm template? If not, I could extend its capability. Do you think it could work a different web service (ie., .NET, Oracle)?? TIA, Patrick Whittingham United Space Alliance -Original Message- From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

RE: Javascript Remoting (js web service accessing stuff)

2004-03-31 Thread Rob
On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 04:59, Whittingham, P wrote: Rob, I like your code alot. Does it works with a cfm template? You mean instead of a web service? I don't think it would becuase what it does is makes a _javascript_ object that matches a web service, you then use that javascritpt object

Javascript Remoting (js web service accessing stuff)

2004-03-30 Thread Rob
I have had a lot of people ask me for this so here you go. I decided to release the source for the _javascript_ remoting libraries - dubbed Neuromancer, as well as the sources for the _javascript_ chat demos (Dick said he was OK with releasing his cfc). The newer HTML chat is pretty cool if I do

RE: Javascript Remoting (js web service accessing stuff)

2004-03-30 Thread Tony Weeg
undownloaded-able ... 404 or am I trying to fast? :) thanks rob...ive been dying to dive into this kinda thing... tony r e v o l u t i o n w e b d e s i g n [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.revolutionwebdesign.com its only looks good to those who can see bad as well -anonymous -Original

Re: Javascript Remoting (js web service accessing stuff)

2004-03-30 Thread Dick Applebaum
Tony Rob stepped out-- he will fix in a few.go to ghat see when Dick On Mar 30, 2004, at 3:19 PM, Tony Weeg wrote: undownloaded-able ... 404 or am I trying to fast? :) thanks rob...ive been dying to dive into this kinda thing... tony r e v o l u t i o n w e b d e s i g n [EMAIL

RE: Javascript Remoting (js web service accessing stuff)

2004-03-30 Thread Rob
On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 15:19, Tony Weeg wrote: undownloaded-able ... 404 or am I trying to fast? My bad, you have to up load before people can download hehehe :) thanks rob...ive been dying to dive into this kinda thing... email me if you's got questions Cheers, -- Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Javascript Remoting (js web service accessing stuff)

2004-03-30 Thread Tony Weeg
thanks rob. ill wait a bit to try again... remoting with js and cf seems like the coolest thing ever known to man... well...apart from mammary glands and their hosts tony r e v o l u t i o n w e b d e s i g n [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.revolutionwebdesign.com its only looks good to those who