RE: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset?

2011-01-13 Thread Mark A. Kruger
Subject: RE: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset? Rick, Yes we did... and yes it is the flash animation portion... -Mark Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 Skype: markakruger www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Rick

RE: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset?

2011-01-13 Thread Mark A. Kruger
: RE: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset? No that would not be accurate. Flash's animation engine is designed for animation. It's smooth and slick and scales when you zoom or draw back (vector graphic stuff). Ajax animation is basically HTML smoke and mirrors - good stuff and works well

Re: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset?

2011-01-12 Thread Irvin Gomez
Thanks, everyone for all the different perspectives. I know that if I were looking at coldfusion for the first time these days, with all the OOP and framework talk dominating the 'airwaves', I'd probably go with PHP or something else, because there is no real benefit to Coldfusion if the

Re: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset?

2011-01-12 Thread Irvin Gomez
sorry - this should have been a reply on the other thread. no idea how it ended up here... Thanks, everyone for all the different perspectives. I know that if I were looking at coldfusion for the first time these days, with all the OOP and framework talk dominating the 'airwaves', I'd

Re: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset?

2011-01-12 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Just another direction to think about is Flex. I've been a CF'er full-time since 1996 (V 3.1), so believe me when I say I LOVE CF! Recently I've taken another look at Flex (after dismissing it in the early days as ridiculously expensive). It is now VERY inexpensive and I am blown away at how

Re: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset?

2011-01-12 Thread Matthew Lowrey
Does anyone else feel ashamed for being a CF Developer for years (2001 v. 5.0) and still not knowing (or using) these kinds of exterior apps/technologies? *lowers head* I feel like I'm a beginning developer stuck in a time warp or something... So much to look into, so little time, so many fun

Re: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset?

2011-01-12 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Irvin Gomez ir...@pixel69.com wrote: Thanks, everyone for all the different perspectives. I know that if I were looking at coldfusion for the first time these days, with all the OOP and framework talk dominating the 'airwaves', I'd probably go with PHP or

Re: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset?

2011-01-12 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Nope (although I have used custom and other frameworks and OO and procedural coding methods)I learned a few things long ago that makes life simpler... 1) Pay attention to, but don't dive into bleeding edge stuff without good reason (paying client for example) Although some of it becomes

Re: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset?

2011-01-12 Thread Irvin Gomez
I think if you were looking at CF for the first time these days, you'd be looking at the features that were consistent with your skill set. If you were a beginner, you'd probably be pretty happy that CF can get you up and writing web applications pretty darn quickly. CF is a very

RE: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset?

2011-01-12 Thread Rick Faircloth
... Rick -Original Message- From: Matthew Lowrey [mailto:rid...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 11:56 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset? Does anyone else feel ashamed for being a CF Developer for years (2001 v. 5.0) and still not knowing

RE: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset?

2011-01-12 Thread Mark A. Kruger
...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 11:45 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset? I've spent the past year or two incorporating jQuery into my programming, mainly the AJAX functionality. Everything I do (perhaps too much!) uses AJAX. It's just become my

RE: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset?

2011-01-12 Thread Bryan Stevenson
replies inline Rick On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 12:45 -0500, Rick Faircloth wrote: [sinp] I mention this as I wondered about Flex, based on the comment a few moments ago. I checked out a few examples of Flex demos and didn't see anything, on a cursory look, that I couldn't easily do (or

RE: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset?

2011-01-12 Thread Rick Faircloth
Faircloth [mailto:ric...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 11:45 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset? I've spent the past year or two incorporating jQuery into my programming, mainly the AJAX functionality. Everything I do (perhaps too much!) uses

RE: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset?

2011-01-12 Thread Mark A. Kruger
: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 12:40 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset? Mark, Do you create your financial visualizations in Flex? Is it the Flash part of the visualizations that performs better than AJAX? Rick -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger

RE: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset?

2011-01-12 Thread Rick Faircloth
Thanks for the feedback and perspective, Bryan! Rick -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 1:22 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset? replies inline Rick On Wed, 2011-01-12

RE: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset?

2011-01-12 Thread Rick Faircloth
...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 12:40 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset? Mark, Do you create your financial visualizations in Flex? Is it the Flash part of the visualizations that performs better than AJAX? Rick -Original Message- From: Mark

Re: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset?

2011-01-12 Thread Dave Watts
So basically, Flash's implementation of Ajax (generic usage of the term) is faster than, say jQuery's? Would that be accurate? Not exactly, because Flash doesn't use AJAX. But if the question is, does a Flash client fetch data more quickly than AJAX, the answer is generally yes. Flash

RE: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset?

2011-01-12 Thread Rick Faircloth
AMF? Thanks for the feedback, Dave! Rick -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 2:48 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset? So basically, Flash's implementation of Ajax (generic usage

Re: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset?

2011-01-12 Thread Dave Watts
AMF? ActionScript Message Format, aka Flash Remoting. http://www.jamesward.com/2007/12/12/blazebench-why-you-want-amf-and-blazeds/ Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA