[cfaussie] Re: Where have all the CF developers gone?

2006-05-09 Thread Barry Beattie
all this cfscript talk... can I just have a step debugger...and breakpointsand watches pretty please? On 5/9/06, Gary Menzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn good suggestion. I had previously suggested the idea of having another CFSETTING attribute (something like lang) to set it as a

[cfaussie] Re: Where have all the CF developers gone?

2006-05-09 Thread Mark Stanton
It might be better get Adobe to update the cfscript tag to include lang=ecmascript that way it opens to door to lang=java or whatever your favourite language that has a java compiler for it. Thus by default lang=cfscript and then you're open to mix and match scripting languages to you hearts

[cfaussie] Re: Where have all the CF developers gone?

2006-05-09 Thread Haikal Saadh
You can do (almost) anything.NET, so in the same vein, if they do make java bytecode compilers for other languanges, I think they could wire those in just fine. Support wise, the API documentation for different languages could be auto generated... I'm sure javadoc would make short work out

[cfaussie] Re: Where have all the CF developers gone?

2006-05-09 Thread Gary Menzel
That is an unreasonable comment, Mark.We aren't asking for something new to be added - we are just asking for something that already (almost) exists to be made standard.MM introduced CFSCRIPT in the first place (maybe it was because someone asked for it - I dont know) - but they should now SUPPORT

[cfaussie] Re: Where have all the CF developers gone?

2006-05-09 Thread darryl lyons
Agreed. One of the problems with CFSCRIPT is that it is not ECMAScript compliant. When switching between JavaScript and CFSCRIPT, it can often get confusing - especially when you are dealing with conditions. I imagine this will be the same case with developers who shift between AS3 and CFSCRIPT.

[cfaussie] Re: Where have all the CF developers gone?

2006-05-09 Thread M@ Bourke
That way you could picklanguages like you pick underwear (hopefully one for each day of theweek).Now now Mark, don't you know ya can wear underwear 4 times before washing, frontwards, backwards, inside-out frontwards, inside-out backwards. M@Who can't quite remember what song/thing that comes

[cfaussie] Re: [OT] Flex2 Beta 3

2006-05-09 Thread Charlie Arehart
I think a lot of the reason we haven't "seen much" Flex/Flash work out there was the high cost for Flex (1). Flex 2's pricing model should help there quite a bit. There are still a lot of people under the impression that "flex will cost". It's not quite true. If you want to, you will be

[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Developer Melbourne

2006-05-09 Thread Dawesi
Dale,Money isn't everything bro. At this point flexibility is my biggest hurdle. There's plenty of work in Australia at the moment. Heck there is a CF7 install contract going in Brissy. Very tempting. There's plenty of work out there, not all of it is on the boards either. $60k contract and a

[cfaussie] Whats so bad about the tag syntax ? was: where have all the cf developers gone ?

2006-05-09 Thread Patrick Branley
I have to say i dont mind using the tag-based syntax for writing code. I would argue rather than making CF script ECMA compliant they should make the tag-based syntax XML valid! Who wants to write in the ugly Perl-like syntax of Php ? And its not so much writing it as it is reading other people's

[cfaussie] Re: Whats so bad about the tag syntax?

2006-05-09 Thread Dale Fraser
Two things wrong with Tag based code. 1. Other developers when they see ColdFusion code hate it and immediately dismiss it as not a real language 2. You need to write about double the amount of code every time cfloop index=i from=1 to=10 /cfloop for (i=1; i=10; i++) { } See the differences

[cfaussie] Re: Whats so bad about the tag syntax?

2006-05-09 Thread Steve Onnis
everything has its place, and the tag syntax does make some tasks allot easier. That sais, for those people who prefer the script syntax it does make it a pain when you have to break out of the script block to do something and then open it up again to keep going. Anything you do with tag code

[cfaussie] Re: Where have all the CF developers gone?

2006-05-09 Thread Gary Menzel
I should have been more specific..ECMA compliant syntactically.So - I think we are on the same page.I actually don't really go in for the compliance at that object level (as not all environments would be able to support all the same objects). If they did - we would only need one language! So -