[cfaussie] Re: CF Cluster

2007-06-05 Thread Duncan

I believe so, only if you dont have any sites running under it.

We do

cfusion (default instance)
 - staging
 - testing

cluster contains
- instance1 and instance2
for production

so we cant stop the default cfusion service.


On 6/5/07, Taco Fleur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm guessing the cf instance can tehn be disabled - untill I need to manage
 the cluster again?


 On 6/5/07, Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Yep, you will end up with 4 services, a jrun manager, a cf manager,
  and 2 instances that you can cluster.
 
  the jrun manager service hosts Jrun (duh) and then that runs the
  default cf instance. this is the only cf instance that gives you the
  cluster manager in administrator. Once you create another instance you
  will notice that it doesnt have the cluster manager options.
 
  On 6/4/07, Peter Tilbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I think you are correct on this also. I also remember the samples
   instance not being active by default. So yes create a new Instance -
   and the beauty of that is it could be a CF6.x, 7.x and now 8.x if
   required. Of course the resources consumed can be extreme.
  
   On 04/06/07, Haikal Saadh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
This is digging into memory so deep that I might as well be pulling it
out of my bum, but I think it might have something to do with the fact
that when running multi instance, you're not supposed to use the
'default' instance? That's meant to be there for just the jRun
Management Console and such stuff to run.
   
In our setup, we have (had?) left the default instances alone, and
 made
new ones for actual use.
   
30 second google didn't turn up any evidence to confirm this, so take
 it
with a bag of salt, but I vaguely remember this as being the case.
   
Taco Fleur wrote:

 Just wondering when setting up a cluster in CF Ent. why can't one
 add
 the default instance to the cluster?
 It looks to me like I would need to have 3 instances, and only two
 can
 be added to a cluster.

 I've created an instance of CF, created a cluster and was expecting
 to
 be able to add the default instance plus the one I created.

 Thanks in advance.
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[cfaussie] Re: isDefined() bad?

2007-06-05 Thread Simon Haddon
I agree.

I am currently the lead developer and architect for a rather large project
with structures as complex as you have, Grant.  I have been very strict with
ensuring that the structures are initialised properly with sane default
values as it saves a lot of heartache in the long run.  I understand where
you are comming from but all I can say is don't be lazy cause it will bite
you on the arse later

I do have some exceptions when a CFC is being loaded into the session scope
to persist it along with the session data it relates to (I said that bit so
Peter doesn't ask me why I don't just shove it in the application scope)
then I do use isDefined and isSimpleValue to see if the CFC needs to be
created and initialised.

For anyone that is interested, we have a 30 Gig database and 70 Gigs of
files to process in our application.  Performance is a huge issue.  Having
said that we have been able to tune the database (Postgresql) so we can sub
second response from tables with 150 million rows in them.

Cheers,
Simon

On 05/06/07, Haikal Saadh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Seems to be 6 of one and 1/2 dozen of another... but if you initialise
 it properly in one place, and it saves you from doing the check in 2 or
 more places, you've come out ahead.

 grant wrote:
  @Dale: It throws.
  @Haikal: Good Point. It's that laziness again - setting up and
  maintaining defaults can be rather tiresome.
 
  On 05/06/07, *Haikal Saadh * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Personally, I favour sane defaults rather than having to check for
  presence of variables all the time. And the bigger and more
  complicated
  your data structs get, I think having to check to see if a variable
  exists is a quick path to insanity.
 
  Side effect of eating too much spaghetti...
 
  grant wrote:
   Wow thanks for the response people. My question is really out of
  pure
   laziness - I have a huge struct that i need to check a key for -
  the
   actual key path is
   session.currentuser.currentreport.filters.currentfilter.filterset,
   where filters, currentfilter and filterset may not be present.
  so it's
   heaps easier to do a
   isDefined(
  session.currentuser.currentreport.filters.currentfilter.filterset)
   than structKeyExists(session.currentuser.currentreport ,
 filters)
   and structKeyExists(session.currentuser.currentreport.filters ,
   currentfilter) and so on.
  
   or am i missing something?
  
   On 05/06/07, * Haikal Saadh* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   Having seen more than my fair share of request scope abuse,
  I can see
   why he would.
  
   I think easy access to request in CF can cause poor code.
  But then
   again, guns don't kill people,  people kill people, right?
  
   Peter Tilbrook wrote:
I agree (disciplined) but he then bagged the request
  scope so
   now I
am not so sure.
   
   
  
  
  
   
 
 
 
 
  


 



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[cfaussie] Re: isDefined() bad?

2007-06-05 Thread David Harris

One place to NOT use isDefined is on the CGI scope...

try this:

cfoutput
p
isDefined(cgi.bob) = #isDefined(cgi.bob)#
/p
p
structKeyExists(cgi, bob) = #structKeyExists(cgi,bob)#
/p
/cfoutput

From what I remeber, the CGI is a magic scope...
quote from docs
Because some browsers do not support some CGI variables, ColdFusion
always returns True when it tests for the existence of a CGI variable,
regardless of whether the browser supports the variable.
/quote from docs



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[cfaussie] Re: isDefined() bad?

2007-06-05 Thread David Harris

and if you get a bit carried away with struct key names, you can break
it too...

EG:

cfset myStruct = structNew()

cfset myStruct[some value here] = bob

cfdump var=#myStruct#

cfoutput#isDefined(myStruct.some value here)#/cfoutput !---
this line breaks ---

cfoutput#structKeyExists(myStruct, some value here)#/cfoutput
!--- this line works ---

On Jun 5, 9:46 pm, David Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One place to NOT use isDefined is on the CGI scope...

 try this:

 cfoutput
 p
 isDefined(cgi.bob) = #isDefined(cgi.bob)#
 /p
 p
 structKeyExists(cgi, bob) = #structKeyExists(cgi,bob)#
 /p
 /cfoutput

 From what I remeber, the CGI is a magic scope...

 quote from docs
 Because some browsers do not support some CGI variables, ColdFusion
 always returns True when it tests for the existence of a CGI variable,
 regardless of whether the browser supports the variable.
 /quote from docs


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[cfaussie] Re: CF Cluster on one machine!?

2007-06-05 Thread David Harris

If you are running multiple instances on one machine, the JVM memory
is shared over those instances (at least they are in JRUN)

So this means if you are on a Windows Machine, and you give the max
memory to the JVM (about 1GB I think) it is used by every instance in
the cluster so this could mean that if you have one instance go
nuts, and eat up lots of memory, less memory is avalible to the other
instacnes on the machine.

The way round this would be to assign a JRun instance it's own JVM
(tech note here: 
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_18206)

I can't say I've actually done this, as I use JRun on my laptop for
developement so Clustering isn't such a bit deal!

HTH


On Jun 5, 12:12 pm, Taco Fleur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I like this. Just the excuse I was looking for, let's wait and see if there
 are any major negatives ;-)

 On 6/5/07, Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







  We run 2 machines via a load balancer with sticky sessions, then have
  3 instances on each machine. the default instance runs testing and
  staging sites, and then we have a cluster that runs 2 instances for
  the production application.

  It runs great. The best advantage is that if one instance gets stuck
  with some long running thread the other instance can start taking more
  load and that happens alot faster than a load balancer can recognise a
  problem, this means users get a better experience.

  My view on this is that its worth doing, you are effectively adding
  more servers with out the cost of more rackspace.

  Its cheap to add some more RAM to hold it all together.

  On 6/5/07, Haikal Saadh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Remember that as you add instances, resources available to each
   individual cluster drops.

   Now, rather than having stage and live on one machine, wouldn't it make
   more sense to have two machines?

   * One for the live.
   * Second one for stage, with maybe an additional instance clustered
 with live for failover?

   Then you get all the _real_ benefits of having a cluster.

   Although, I still cringe at the thought of stage and live code running
   on the same box.

   Taco Fleur wrote:
I am hoping to get some input on the following.

I have one instance of CF running and one is dormant (STAGING) to
upload new code to and test it out before moving to LIVE.
We are starting out with one machine for CF and will tag on more as
the need arises, my question is, would there be any benefit of putting
a cluster on one machine? The only benefit I could see if the fact
that if one crashes the other one on the same machine takes over. But
its highly likely that the problem on the first instance will
replicate to the second instance in the cluster.. So I'm not sure
anymore... I'm hoping someone can give me a reason to do it, so I can
finally setup my first cluster (yeah)...

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[cfaussie] Re: CFAussie Community Head Count

2007-06-05 Thread MrBuzzy

George, Chris,

You should probabyl ping the original email 'CFAussie Community Head
Count' too, if possible.

Cheers

On 6/5/07, Chris Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 +1 Chris Dawes - Croydon Vic for last few months - ex Sydney



 On 05/06/07, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
  Mark, yours is the 100th post on this thread but not the 100th person to 
  ping
 
  car-mawwnnn! we can d it!!!
 
 
  The CFAUSSIE-a-thon is hoping to raise 100 members from the dead.
 
  The total so far at the tally room comes in at 83 members (someone
   check this?)
 
  Email now, our inboxes are ready to accept your ping
 
  All for a noble cause
 
  Ahem, Matt... tell us again why did you wanted this in the first place?
 
 
 
  On 6/5/07, Mark Mandel  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   wow.. is this thing still going?
  
   Mark
  
   On 6/5/07, dfwise [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
   
FAB,
   
Long time veiwer, first time caller.
   
   
On Jun 1, 12:02 pm, Matt Voerman  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Guys,
 Just a quick note to let you guys know that we at the Adobe Australia
 office haven't forgotten about you, and do monitor this (and several
 other) lists on a regular basis.

 We have a couple of Community related irons in the fire and will
 communicate more on them as they solidify.

 What would be of great help to us in the meantime would be a hands up
 (head count) on how many Aussie CF'ers are reading this list on a
 regular basis. If you could just ping a response to to this thread
 that would be grouse.

 Thanks in advance

 Matt Voerman

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[cfaussie] Re: CFAussie Community Head Count

2007-06-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ping ping ping ping


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[cfaussie] Re: CFAussie Community Head Count

2007-06-05 Thread Peter Tilbrook

Yeah but Buzzy is on drugs and in Europe so does not count!

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[cfaussie] Re: CFAussie Community Head Count

2007-06-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ping pingpawww

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 Yeah but Buzzy is on drugs and in Europe so does not count!

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[cfaussie] Re: isDefined() bad?

2007-06-05 Thread Raymond Camden

cfset mystruct[some value here] = nonono

:)

On 6/5/07, MrBuzzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Um where the code 'breaks' in your example. This isn't valid struct usage.
 Just the same as you can't do this...

 cfset myStruct.some value here = nonono

 Or did I miss something? Ie; this would 'break' it too...

 IsDefined( ! )

 Cheers.


 On 6/5/07, David Harris  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  and if you get a bit carried away with struct key names, you can break
  it too...
 
  EG:
 
  cfset myStruct = structNew()
 
  cfset myStruct[some value here] = bob
 
  cfdump var=#myStruct#
 
  cfoutput#isDefined( myStruct.some value here)#/cfoutput !---
  this line breaks ---
 
  cfoutput#structKeyExists(myStruct, some value
 here)#/cfoutput
  !--- this line works ---
 
  On Jun 5, 9:46 pm, David Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   One place to NOT use isDefined is on the CGI scope...
  
   try this:
  
   cfoutput
   p
   isDefined(cgi.bob) = #isDefined(cgi.bob)#
   /p
   p
   structKeyExists(cgi, bob) = #structKeyExists(cgi,bob)#
   /p
   /cfoutput
  
   From what I remeber, the CGI is a magic scope...
  
   quote from docs
   Because some browsers do not support some CGI variables, ColdFusion
   always returns True when it tests for the existence of a CGI variable,
   regardless of whether the browser supports the variable.
   /quote from docs
 
 
   
 



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[cfaussie] Re: isDefined() bad?

2007-06-05 Thread David Harris

you can do this (as per my example code):
cfset myStruct[some value here] = bob

try this one:

cfset myStruct = structNew()
cfset myStruct[some.value.here and a space too, and an
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] = fred
cfdump var=#myStruct#


it's one of those things that *can* be done, but (as rule of thumb)
isn't...

but if you do, It'll break isDefined()



MrBuzzy wrote:
 Um where the code 'breaks' in your example. This isn't valid struct usage.
 Just the same as you can't do this...

 cfset myStruct.some value here = nonono

 Or did I miss something? Ie; this would 'break' it too...

 IsDefined( ! )

 Cheers.

 On 6/5/07, David Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  and if you get a bit carried away with struct key names, you can break
  it too...
 
  EG:
 
  cfset myStruct = structNew()
 
  cfset myStruct[some value here] = bob
 
  cfdump var=#myStruct#
 
  cfoutput#isDefined( myStruct.some value here)#/cfoutput !---
  this line breaks ---
 
  cfoutput#structKeyExists(myStruct, some value here)#/cfoutput
  !--- this line works ---
 
  On Jun 5, 9:46 pm, David Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   One place to NOT use isDefined is on the CGI scope...
  
   try this:
  
   cfoutput
   p
   isDefined(cgi.bob) = #isDefined(cgi.bob)#
   /p
   p
   structKeyExists(cgi, bob) = #structKeyExists(cgi,bob)#
   /p
   /cfoutput
  
   From what I remeber, the CGI is a magic scope...
  
   quote from docs
   Because some browsers do not support some CGI variables, ColdFusion
   always returns True when it tests for the existence of a CGI variable,
   regardless of whether the browser supports the variable.
   /quote from docs
 
 
  
 


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[cfaussie] Re: isDefined() bad?

2007-06-05 Thread Simon Haddon
It is the sort of thing you don't want to teach your developers as I can
imagine the heartache that would cause.

On 06/06/07, David Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 you can do this (as per my example code):
 cfset myStruct[some value here] = bob

 try this one:

 cfset myStruct = structNew()
 cfset myStruct[some.value.here and a space too, and an
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]] = fred
 cfdump var=#myStruct#


 it's one of those things that *can* be done, but (as rule of thumb)
 isn't...

 but if you do, It'll break isDefined()



 MrBuzzy wrote:
  Um where the code 'breaks' in your example. This isn't valid struct
 usage.
  Just the same as you can't do this...
 
  cfset myStruct.some value here = nonono
 
  Or did I miss something? Ie; this would 'break' it too...
 
  IsDefined( ! )
 
  Cheers.
 
  On 6/5/07, David Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   and if you get a bit carried away with struct key names, you can break
   it too...
  
   EG:
  
   cfset myStruct = structNew()
  
   cfset myStruct[some value here] = bob
  
   cfdump var=#myStruct#
  
   cfoutput#isDefined( myStruct.some value here)#/cfoutput !---
   this line breaks ---
  
   cfoutput#structKeyExists(myStruct, some value here)#/cfoutput
   !--- this line works ---
  
   On Jun 5, 9:46 pm, David Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One place to NOT use isDefined is on the CGI scope...
   
try this:
   
cfoutput
p
isDefined(cgi.bob) = #isDefined(cgi.bob)#
/p
p
structKeyExists(cgi, bob) = #structKeyExists(cgi,bob)#
/p
/cfoutput
   
From what I remeber, the CGI is a magic scope...
   
quote from docs
Because some browsers do not support some CGI variables, ColdFusion
always returns True when it tests for the existence of a CGI
 variable,
regardless of whether the browser supports the variable.
/quote from docs
  
  
   
  


 



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[cfaussie] JDBC Data Direct driver 3.4 Isolation Level

2007-06-05 Thread Scott Thornton

Hi,

We are currently undergoing a Microsoft review of our database, particularly 
looking at our deadlock issue and a question that came up from our consultant 
is:


As per our recent conversation I would like you to find out the following about 
the JDBC Data Direct driver 3.4 you are currently utilising:

* Does it set a specific transaction isolation level when connecting to SQL 
Server 2000? If so what is the default it uses? And how can we configure this 
setting?

I found the following which seems interesting:

http://knowledgebase.datadirect.com/kbase.nsf/ce24d9443437511f85256e57006bfe2a/9a81ecba03d1528a85256c2100557987?OpenDocumentHighlight=0,jdbc,sql,server,transaction,isolation,level
 

can anyone provide any insight to the above?

Also, does any one use the Microsoft JDBC drivers? Any problems?

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[cfaussie] Re: CFAussie Community Head Count

2007-06-05 Thread George Lu
I did that but it just automatically added to this thread as well?!

On 05/06/07, MrBuzzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 George, Chris,

 You should probabyl ping the original email 'CFAussie Community Head
 Count' too, if possible.

 Cheers

 On 6/5/07, Chris Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  +1 Chris Dawes - Croydon Vic for last few months - ex Sydney
 
 
 
  On 05/06/07, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  
   Mark, yours is the 100th post on this thread but not the 100th person
 to ping
  
   car-mawwnnn! we can d it!!!
  
  
   The CFAUSSIE-a-thon is hoping to raise 100 members from the dead.
  
   The total so far at the tally room comes in at 83 members (someone
check this?)
  
   Email now, our inboxes are ready to accept your ping
  
   All for a noble cause
  
   Ahem, Matt... tell us again why did you wanted this in the first
 place?
  
  
  
   On 6/5/07, Mark Mandel  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
wow.. is this thing still going?
   
Mark
   
On 6/5/07, dfwise [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

 FAB,

 Long time veiwer, first time caller.


 On Jun 1, 12:02 pm, Matt Voerman  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Guys,
  Just a quick note to let you guys know that we at the Adobe
 Australia
  office haven't forgotten about you, and do monitor this (and
 several
  other) lists on a regular basis.
 
  We have a couple of Community related irons in the fire and will
  communicate more on them as they solidify.
 
  What would be of great help to us in the meantime would be a
 hands up
  (head count) on how many Aussie CF'ers are reading this list on
 a
  regular basis. If you could just ping a response to to this
 thread
  that would be grouse.
 
  Thanks in advance
 
  Matt Voerman
 
  Senior Consultant
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[cfaussie] List of Aussie Coldfusion sites hosted in the US.

2007-06-05 Thread Pragnesh Vaghela

Hi All,

A client of mine is nervous about moving their hosting to the US. If
you could please just ping back with a list of Aussie Coldfusion sites
that are hosted in the US it will be greatly appreciated.

Thanking in advance.

Pragnesh


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[cfaussie] Re: List of Aussie Coldfusion sites hosted in the US.

2007-06-05 Thread Dale Fraser

You should make them aware that the site will be slower for AU people but
quicker for most others in the world.

So if your users are in AU, then you should host in AU. We hosted in AU  US
and there is a noticeable difference from both sides of the world.

Regards
Dale Fraser

http://dalefraser.blogspot.com

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Hi All,

A client of mine is nervous about moving their hosting to the US. If
you could please just ping back with a list of Aussie Coldfusion sites
that are hosted in the US it will be greatly appreciated.

Thanking in advance.

Pragnesh






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[cfaussie] Re: isDefined() bad?

2007-06-05 Thread Robin Hilliard
You wouldn't name your own keys this way - on the other hand it's  
good to know CF can cope with these types of keys if you're writing  
caching code or something else where you want to associate arbitrary  
string keys with a value (although I'd probably hash() the string  
first for good luck).

People who've done a CF course with me know that I always try to use  
structKeyExists() over isDefined() - I use the latter when I need to  
check that some deeply nested key exists without having to check all  
the intermediate keys along the way.

Robin




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On 06/06/2007, at 7:14 AM, Simon Haddon wrote:

 It is the sort of thing you don't want to teach your developers as  
 I can imagine the heartache that would cause.

 On 06/06/07, David Harris  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 you can do this (as per my example code):
 cfset myStruct[some value here] = bob

 try this one:

 cfset myStruct = structNew()
 cfset myStruct[some.value.here and a space too, and an
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 it's one of those things that *can* be done, but (as rule of thumb)
 isn't...

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[cfaussie] Re: List of Aussie Coldfusion sites hosted in the US.

2007-06-05 Thread Robin Hilliard

On 06/06/2007, at 9:44 AM, Pragnesh Vaghela wrote:

 Hi All,

 A client of mine is nervous about moving their hosting to the US. If
 you could please just ping back with a list of Aussie Coldfusion sites
 that are hosted in the US it will be greatly appreciated.

 Thanking in advance.

 Pragnesh


Here you are - publicly visible .au domains hosted from IP address  
ranges located in the continental US.

That said, the majority are hosted here, and can I point out that the  
more CF sites are hosted in the US, the less CF gets hosted and sold  
in Australia - just keep this in mind the next time the list starts  
hitting up Adobe Australia for more CF marketing budget...


www.disneyvideos.com.au
www.studyabroad.unsw.edu.au
www.studyabroad.edu.au
olympics.com.au
www.campbellsci.com.au
www.soundhouse.com.au
www.insul-8.com.au
www.packeteer.com.au
www.tulloch.com.au
www.jaguar.com.au
www.vegemite.com.au
www.behringer.com.au
www.kraft.com.au
shakespeare.com.au
www.sparkleroad.com.au
www.petrescue.com.au
www.surveycraft.com.au
www.rs-components.com.au
www.nata.asn.au
www.hourofpower.org.au
enterprisesecurity.symantec.com.au
www.peoplemanager.com.au
antiques.classifiedspot.com.au
www.malco.com.au
www.century21.com.au
www.hprresources.com.au
www.bluegrass.org.au
www.andyscott.id.au
securestore.paystream.com.au
www.movieworld.com.au
www.pauls.com.au
www.lpgaustralia.com.au
www.markireland.com.au
www.canteen.org.au
lan.spectrewars.com.au
snap.photography.com.au
www.grasp.org.au
www.brownmarketing.com.au
edu.itwarehouse.com.au
www.fullnoise.com.au
www.daywork.com.au
www.gasgasaustralia.com.au
www.stadia.com.au
www.lean.org.au
www.absacos.com.au
www.aegroup.com.au
www.ctn.org.au
www.red5.com.au
www.acc.net.au
gocamping.shop.camping.com.au
www.astore.com.au
www.dwyer-inst.com.au
www.acpa.net.au
www.promoteproperty.com.au
www.sonyatv.com.au
www.iwin.com.au
www.alfab.com.au
www.labtec.com.au
www.marketaustralia.com.au
www.hyperion.com.au
www.liquidforce.com.au
clearlycontacts.com.au
www.a-f-s.com.au
www.ezybeds.com.au
bookings.ineedaholiday.com.au
www.virtuoffice.com.au
www.balconyliving.com.au
www.flowersxpress.com.au
store.macquarie.vic.edu.au
www.thegoodguys.com.au
www.narreit.com.au
www.lanternpaper.com.au
www.mccormick.com.au
netballq.org.au
www.nikkenwellness.com.au
www.immigration.sa.gov.au
www.dtour.com.au
www.childrensworkshops.com.au
www.sbrcorporate.com.au
sitbackandrelax.com.au
www.timberrifictoys.com.au
topcomonline.com.au
www.scotto.com.au
www.alpineangler.com.au
www.buywacom.com.au
biggoldenguitar.com.au
www.thomsoneducationdirect.com.au
www.c-m-a.com.au
www.ferno.com.au
www.primeindustrial.com.au
proedaust.com.au
www.softbrands.com.au
www.n2h2.com.au
www.beachcomber.com.au
www.lifestage.com.au
www.mailmanager.com.au
www.broderickmotors.com.au
caretaker.com.au
www.bifrost.com.au
www.winetrip.com.au
www.accelerationaustralia.com.au
www.dog-breeders.com.au
housecarers.com.au
www.petsitters.com.au
www.ihaveasecret.com.au
www.mycocktail.com.au
www.thetallpoppies.com.au
www.globalstar.com.au
www.lawtech.com.au
www.auroragroup.net.au
www.wa.conferenceonline.com.au
www.newwaves.com.au
magicpixel.com.au
www.rally.com.au
investmentmentor.com.au
www.thelounge.com.au
www.lifeinfocus.com.au
nmd.com.au
www.amonline.net.au
www.ambs.com.au
www.dreamtime.net.au
tgacc.com.au
www.telsyte.com.au
www.travelauctions.com.au
redhen.com.au
mhrs.org.au
www.castlechem.com.au
www.arc.org.au
www.cleaa.asn.au
www.wantseebuy.com.au
www.stageandbackstage.com.au
www.endota.com.au
www.agrimedia.com.au
www.openquarter.com.au
www.remo.com.au
www.kandarealestate.com.au
www.stannard.net.au
www.ballantyne.com.au
www.jhelicopters.com.au
rockdaleautotraders.com.au
www.aada.org.au
grooveon.com.au
www.mcgoos.com.au
dsav.asn.au
www.griffintheatre.com.au
www.yachtingunlimited.com.au
www.ssafeschools.org.au
www.beachproperties.com.au
sturtsabres.com.au
www.mdtc.asn.au
www.opal.org.au
www.swanstreetauctions.com.au
www.australianyouthhotel.com.au
www.sunmarineservices.com.au
www.opinion.com.au
www.wharfedale.com.au
www.goodreadingmagazine.com.au
www.japingka.com.au
www.mariposa.com.au
www.thetelerangroup.com.au
www.actmotorclubs.org.au
www.planetark.com.au
www.usability.com.au
www.ais.wa.edu.au
www2.ststephens.wa.edu.au
www.yoganic.com.au
artlink.com.au
www.dancestudio.com.au
www.frogsaustralia.net.au
www.sandridge.org.au
www.iopal.com.au
www.lutheran.org.au
www.andrewisles.com.au
carnageonline.com.au
antique-art.com.au
www.interactivetheatre.com.au
www.frontierwines.com.au
www.justphocus.com.au
www.tamborinemtncc.org.au
www.napoleoncosmetics.com.au
www.greenhouse.crc.org.au
www.aasd.com.au
www.acsi.org.au
www.autoeurope.com.au
www.austarab.com.au
www.shimadzu.com.au
www.imagesofcanberra.com.au
www.it3.com.au
www.adps.com.au
www.ayo.com.au
adobe.com.au
cgi.ebay.com.au
www.arkadin.com.au
www.rarerecords.com.au
www.caterqip.com.au
www.offroadaustralia.com.au
www.aoc.com.au
support.myob.com.au
www.norfolkisland.com.au
www.infonumbers.com.au

[cfaussie] Re: List of Aussie Coldfusion sites hosted in the US.

2007-06-05 Thread Pragnesh Vaghela

Robin,

This is to give them a better price range for their hosting needs.
Have to show advantages against their PHP quote :-).

Pragnesh


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[cfaussie] Re: List of Aussie Coldfusion sites hosted in the US.

2007-06-05 Thread Andrew Scott

Robin,

A couple more for you Robin.

www.eianz.org
www.aegeon.com.au

Not only are they both Coldfusion but they are both also Farcry websites.



Andrew Scott
Senior Coldfusion Developer
Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
www.aegeon.com.au
Phone: +613  8676 4223
Mobile: 0404 998 273


-Original Message-
From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Robin Hilliard
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 10:18 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: List of Aussie Coldfusion sites hosted in the US.


On 06/06/2007, at 9:44 AM, Pragnesh Vaghela wrote:

 Hi All,

 A client of mine is nervous about moving their hosting to the US. If
 you could please just ping back with a list of Aussie Coldfusion sites
 that are hosted in the US it will be greatly appreciated.

 Thanking in advance.

 Pragnesh


Here you are - publicly visible .au domains hosted from IP address  
ranges located in the continental US.

That said, the majority are hosted here, and can I point out that the  
more CF sites are hosted in the US, the less CF gets hosted and sold  
in Australia - just keep this in mind the next time the list starts  
hitting up Adobe Australia for more CF marketing budget...


www.disneyvideos.com.au
www.studyabroad.unsw.edu.au
www.studyabroad.edu.au
olympics.com.au
www.campbellsci.com.au
www.soundhouse.com.au
www.insul-8.com.au
www.packeteer.com.au
www.tulloch.com.au
www.jaguar.com.au
www.vegemite.com.au
www.behringer.com.au
www.kraft.com.au
shakespeare.com.au
www.sparkleroad.com.au
www.petrescue.com.au
www.surveycraft.com.au
www.rs-components.com.au
www.nata.asn.au
www.hourofpower.org.au
enterprisesecurity.symantec.com.au
www.peoplemanager.com.au
antiques.classifiedspot.com.au
www.malco.com.au
www.century21.com.au
www.hprresources.com.au
www.bluegrass.org.au
www.andyscott.id.au
securestore.paystream.com.au
www.movieworld.com.au
www.pauls.com.au
www.lpgaustralia.com.au
www.markireland.com.au
www.canteen.org.au
lan.spectrewars.com.au
snap.photography.com.au
www.grasp.org.au
www.brownmarketing.com.au
edu.itwarehouse.com.au
www.fullnoise.com.au
www.daywork.com.au
www.gasgasaustralia.com.au
www.stadia.com.au
www.lean.org.au
www.absacos.com.au
www.aegroup.com.au
www.ctn.org.au
www.red5.com.au
www.acc.net.au
gocamping.shop.camping.com.au
www.astore.com.au
www.dwyer-inst.com.au
www.acpa.net.au
www.promoteproperty.com.au
www.sonyatv.com.au
www.iwin.com.au
www.alfab.com.au
www.labtec.com.au
www.marketaustralia.com.au
www.hyperion.com.au
www.liquidforce.com.au
clearlycontacts.com.au
www.a-f-s.com.au
www.ezybeds.com.au
bookings.ineedaholiday.com.au
www.virtuoffice.com.au
www.balconyliving.com.au
www.flowersxpress.com.au
store.macquarie.vic.edu.au
www.thegoodguys.com.au
www.narreit.com.au
www.lanternpaper.com.au
www.mccormick.com.au
netballq.org.au
www.nikkenwellness.com.au
www.immigration.sa.gov.au
www.dtour.com.au
www.childrensworkshops.com.au
www.sbrcorporate.com.au
sitbackandrelax.com.au
www.timberrifictoys.com.au
topcomonline.com.au
www.scotto.com.au
www.alpineangler.com.au
www.buywacom.com.au
biggoldenguitar.com.au
www.thomsoneducationdirect.com.au
www.c-m-a.com.au
www.ferno.com.au
www.primeindustrial.com.au
proedaust.com.au
www.softbrands.com.au
www.n2h2.com.au
www.beachcomber.com.au
www.lifestage.com.au
www.mailmanager.com.au
www.broderickmotors.com.au
caretaker.com.au
www.bifrost.com.au
www.winetrip.com.au
www.accelerationaustralia.com.au
www.dog-breeders.com.au
housecarers.com.au
www.petsitters.com.au
www.ihaveasecret.com.au
www.mycocktail.com.au
www.thetallpoppies.com.au
www.globalstar.com.au
www.lawtech.com.au
www.auroragroup.net.au
www.wa.conferenceonline.com.au
www.newwaves.com.au
magicpixel.com.au
www.rally.com.au
investmentmentor.com.au
www.thelounge.com.au
www.lifeinfocus.com.au
nmd.com.au
www.amonline.net.au
www.ambs.com.au
www.dreamtime.net.au
tgacc.com.au
www.telsyte.com.au
www.travelauctions.com.au
redhen.com.au
mhrs.org.au
www.castlechem.com.au
www.arc.org.au
www.cleaa.asn.au
www.wantseebuy.com.au
www.stageandbackstage.com.au
www.endota.com.au
www.agrimedia.com.au
www.openquarter.com.au
www.remo.com.au
www.kandarealestate.com.au
www.stannard.net.au
www.ballantyne.com.au
www.jhelicopters.com.au
rockdaleautotraders.com.au
www.aada.org.au
grooveon.com.au
www.mcgoos.com.au
dsav.asn.au
www.griffintheatre.com.au
www.yachtingunlimited.com.au
www.ssafeschools.org.au
www.beachproperties.com.au
sturtsabres.com.au
www.mdtc.asn.au
www.opal.org.au
www.swanstreetauctions.com.au
www.australianyouthhotel.com.au
www.sunmarineservices.com.au
www.opinion.com.au
www.wharfedale.com.au
www.goodreadingmagazine.com.au
www.japingka.com.au
www.mariposa.com.au
www.thetelerangroup.com.au
www.actmotorclubs.org.au
www.planetark.com.au
www.usability.com.au
www.ais.wa.edu.au
www2.ststephens.wa.edu.au
www.yoganic.com.au
artlink.com.au
www.dancestudio.com.au
www.frogsaustralia.net.au
www.sandridge.org.au
www.iopal.com.au
www.lutheran.org.au
www.andrewisles.com.au
carnageonline.com.au
antique-art.com.au

[cfaussie] Re: List of Aussie Coldfusion sites hosted in the US.

2007-06-05 Thread Mike Kear

You should also bear in mind that the speed of the site is not only
related to their geographic location.

Some of the other factors that come to mind include:

- The bandwidth available to the site (i.e. the pipe it's attached to)
- The other activity on the server it's hosted on (how many other
active sites are there)
- The standard of the code the site's built with
- How much attention the developer has paid to issues like caching and
page site etc

None of these factors are related to server location.

Some of my sites for example are hosted in Texas, and even though
they're on the same box some run faster than others.   That's to do
with (amongst other things) how much I knew about caching and
performance issues at the time i wrote them.

For example,  bluegrass.org.au, which was in Robin's list  runs pretty
slow and when i have a minute or two to spare here and there, I'm
rebuilding it paying more attention to performance issues.

Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month

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[cfaussie] Re: Anyone interested in a bit of work in Canberra

2007-06-05 Thread Peter Tilbrook

Simon. I have some free time at the moment if you are in a bind.

On 06/06/07, Simon Haddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 My main developer for a client has become rather sick and could be out for a
 month or 2.  If anyone interested in picking up some extra work. The start
 date being ASAP as I am in a bit of a pickle

 The job is related to an SMS system for travellers and is quiet interested
 to work on.  It is still running on CFMX6 but this will be upgraded later
 this year when a server migration is done.  The system uses alot of pushes
 and pulls from/to different sites and agencies and is quiet a neat idea.

 If you are interested than can you contact me directly at
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 along with a resume and any questions, phone number, etc.  I am quiet happy
 with the work being done remotely within Australia somewhere.


 Cheers
 Simon Haddon
  



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ColdGen Internet Solutions
President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group
PO Box 2247
Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620
AUSTRALIA

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[cfaussie] Re: Anyone interested in a bit of work in Canberra

2007-06-05 Thread Michael Wright
Simon

Unfortunately I'm UK based rather than Australia but I do put in some very
odd hours. If you'd like some more info about me please get in touch.

Regards
Michael Wright

On 06/06/07, Peter Tilbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Simon. I have some free time at the moment if you are in a bind.

 On 06/06/07, Simon Haddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  My main developer for a client has become rather sick and could be out
 for a
  month or 2.  If anyone interested in picking up some extra work. The
 start
  date being ASAP as I am in a bit of a pickle
 
  The job is related to an SMS system for travellers and is quiet
 interested
  to work on.  It is still running on CFMX6 but this will be upgraded
 later
  this year when a server migration is done.  The system uses alot of
 pushes
  and pulls from/to different sites and agencies and is quiet a neat idea.
 
  If you are interested than can you contact me directly at
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  along with a resume and any questions, phone number, etc.  I am quiet
 happy
  with the work being done remotely within Australia somewhere.
 
 
  Cheers
  Simon Haddon
   
 


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 ColdGen Internet Solutions
 President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group
 PO Box 2247
 Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620
 AUSTRALIA

 http://www.coldgen.com/
 http://www.actcfug.com/

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[cfaussie] Re: CFAussie Community Head Count

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[cfaussie] Re: JDBC Data Direct driver 3.4 Isolation Level

2007-06-05 Thread Scott Thornton

I think this may be the answer actually:

http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=5444c687 

 Scott Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/06/2007 8:34 am 

Hi,

We are currently undergoing a Microsoft review of our database, particularly 
looking at our deadlock issue and a question that came up from our consultant 
is:


As per our recent conversation I would like you to find out the following about 
the JDBC Data Direct driver 3.4 you are currently utilising:

* Does it set a specific transaction isolation level when connecting to SQL 
Server 2000? If so what is the default it uses? And how can we configure this 
setting?

I found the following which seems interesting:

http://knowledgebase.datadirect.com/kbase.nsf/ce24d9443437511f85256e57006bfe2a/9a81ecba03d1528a85256c2100557987?OpenDocumentHighlight=0,jdbc,sql,server,transaction,isolation,level
 

can anyone provide any insight to the above?

Also, does any one use the Microsoft JDBC drivers? Any problems?

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[cfaussie] Object Locking

2007-06-05 Thread Dale Fraser
This might be a dumb question.

 

But if I create an instance of an Object at Application level, such as a
logging Object.

 

Then I want to invoke the log method on every action of every page, do I
need to lock the object before invoking the log method.

 

Ie

 

cfset application.Logger = createObject('component',
'com.company.data.Logger.init()' /

 

Then from other pages

 

cfset result = applicationer.Logger.log(username, datetime, event) /

 

Or would the cfset need to have a lock around it.

 

Regards

Dale Fraser

 

http://dalefraser.blogspot.com

 


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[cfaussie] Get root of the application

2007-06-05 Thread Taco Fleur
Hi all,

I used be able to get the root of an application by putting something like
getCurrentTemplate() in the root application.cfm, even if I included the
root application.cfm in sub application.cfm files it would record the right
path, i.e. that of the root.

Now with the application.cfc I cannot get the right path anymore, because if
the application is initialised through an application.cfc in a sub
directory, it reports the path of that sub directory. I've also tried all
other functions like getBaseTemplate etc. nothing gives me the right output,
the path of the root application.cfc is what I am after.

Only thing I can think of is putting a cfm file in the root that outputs the
path I am after. I don't like hard coding it.

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[cfaussie] Re: Object Locking

2007-06-05 Thread Mark Mandel

Dale,

Assuming the object is thread safe, no.

Mark

On 6/6/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 This might be a dumb question.



 But if I create an instance of an Object at Application level, such as a
 logging Object.



 Then I want to invoke the log method on every action of every page, do I
 need to lock the object before invoking the log method.



 Ie



 cfset application.Logger = createObject('component',
 'com.company.data.Logger.init()' /



 Then from other pages



 cfset result = applicationer.Logger.log(username, datetime, event) /



 Or would the cfset need to have a lock around it.



 Regards

 Dale Fraser



 http://dalefraser.blogspot.com


  



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[cfaussie] Re: Object Locking

2007-06-05 Thread Andrew Scott
Dale,

 

This has been discussed many times, and the debate still rages about race
conditions.

 

The answer to your question will depend on whether a race condition will
occur. What I have done in the past is done a cflock around global variables
within the cfc when being set. This will do two things, one the request is
halted until it is finished by a predecessor and secondly you do not need to
worry about locking outside your package.

 

Think thread safe.

 

 



Andrew Scott
Senior Coldfusion Developer
Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
www.aegeon.com.au
Phone: +613  8676 4223
Mobile: 0404 998 273

 

 

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Dale Fraser
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:28 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Object Locking

 

This might be a dumb question.

 

But if I create an instance of an Object at Application level, such as a
logging Object.

 

Then I want to invoke the log method on every action of every page, do I
need to lock the object before invoking the log method.

 

Ie

 

cfset application.Logger = createObject('component',
'com.company.data.Logger.init()' /

 

Then from other pages

 

cfset result = applicationer.Logger.log(username, datetime, event) /

 

Or would the cfset need to have a lock around it.

 

Regards

Dale Fraser

 

http://dalefraser.blogspot.com

 



 


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[cfaussie] Re: Get root of the application

2007-06-05 Thread Andrew Scott
This not work for you, sure works for me?

 

getDirectoryFromPath(getCurrentTemplatePath())

 



Andrew Scott
Senior Coldfusion Developer
Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
www.aegeon.com.au
Phone: +613  8676 4223
Mobile: 0404 998 273

 

 

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Taco Fleur
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:31 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Get root of the application

 

Hi all,

 

I used be able to get the root of an application by putting something like
getCurrentTemplate() in the root application.cfm, even if I included the
root application.cfm in sub application.cfm files it would record the right
path, i.e. that of the root.

 

Now with the application.cfc I cannot get the right path anymore, because if
the application is initialised through an application.cfc in a sub
directory, it reports the path of that sub directory. I've also tried all
other functions like getBaseTemplate etc. nothing gives me the right output,
the path of the root application.cfc is what I am after.

 

Only thing I can think of is putting a cfm file in the root that outputs the
path I am after. I don't like hard coding it.

 

Thanks.

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[cfaussie] Re: Get root of the application

2007-06-05 Thread Taco Fleur
Does that work for you if you put it in an application.cfc that extends the
root application.cfc, and access a page in that sub directory first, also
make sure the app is not initialised yet.

Let me know..



On 6/6/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  This not work for you, sure works for me?



 getDirectoryFromPath(getCurrentTemplatePath())





 Andrew Scott
 Senior Coldfusion Developer
 Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
 www.aegeon.com.au
 Phone: +613  8676 4223
 Mobile: 0404 998 273





 *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On
 Behalf Of *Taco Fleur
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:31 PM
 *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* [cfaussie] Get root of the application



 Hi all,



 I used be able to get the root of an application by putting something like
 getCurrentTemplate() in the root application.cfm, even if I included the
 root application.cfm in sub application.cfm files it would record the
 right path, i.e. that of the root.



 Now with the application.cfc I cannot get the right path anymore, because
 if the application is initialised through an application.cfc in a sub
 directory, it reports the path of that sub directory. I've also tried all
 other functions like getBaseTemplate etc. nothing gives me the right output,
 the path of the root application.cfc is what I am after.



 Only thing I can think of is putting a cfm file in the root that outputs
 the path I am after. I don't like hard coding it.



 Thanks.

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 The new Australian search engine for businesses, products and services



 




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[cfaussie] Re: Object Locking

2007-06-05 Thread Dale Fraser
Ok,

 

So thread safe, I'm not really sure what this means. Well I know what it
means, but what would be an example of something that's not thread safe so
that I can think if my example would be safe.

 

My thinking is that if the call to the object doesn't modify the object it's
self then it's safe, is that right.

 

Regards

Dale Fraser

 

 http://dalefraser.blogspot.com http://dalefraser.blogspot.com

 

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Andrew Scott
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:33 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Object Locking

 

Dale,

 

This has been discussed many times, and the debate still rages about race
conditions.

 

The answer to your question will depend on whether a race condition will
occur. What I have done in the past is done a cflock around global variables
within the cfc when being set. This will do two things, one the request is
halted until it is finished by a predecessor and secondly you do not need to
worry about locking outside your package.

 

Think thread safe.

 

 



Andrew Scott
Senior Coldfusion Developer
Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
www.aegeon.com.au
Phone: +613  8676 4223
Mobile: 0404 998 273

 

 

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Dale Fraser
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:28 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Object Locking

 

This might be a dumb question.

 

But if I create an instance of an Object at Application level, such as a
logging Object.

 

Then I want to invoke the log method on every action of every page, do I
need to lock the object before invoking the log method.

 

Ie

 

cfset application.Logger = createObject('component',
'com.company.data.Logger.init()' /

 

Then from other pages

 

cfset result = applicationer.Logger.log(username, datetime, event) /

 

Or would the cfset need to have a lock around it.

 

Regards

Dale Fraser

 

http://dalefraser.blogspot.com

 

 

 



 


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[cfaussie] Re: Object Locking

2007-06-05 Thread Mark Mandel

http://www.google.com.au/search?source=ighl=enq=CFC+thread+safebtnG=Google+Searchmeta=

Mark

On 6/6/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 Ok,



 So thread safe, I'm not really sure what this means. Well I know what it
 means, but what would be an example of something that's not thread safe so
 that I can think if my example would be safe.



 My thinking is that if the call to the object doesn't modify the object it's
 self then it's safe, is that right.




 Regards

 Dale Fraser



 http://dalefraser.blogspot.com





 From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Andrew Scott
  Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:33 PM
  To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Object Locking




 Dale,



 This has been discussed many times, and the debate still rages about race
 conditions.



 The answer to your question will depend on whether a race condition will
 occur. What I have done in the past is done a cflock around global variables
 within the cfc when being set. This will do two things, one the request is
 halted until it is finished by a predecessor and secondly you do not need to
 worry about locking outside your package.



 Think thread safe.








  Andrew Scott
  Senior Coldfusion Developer
  Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
  www.aegeon.com.au
  Phone: +613  8676 4223
  Mobile: 0404 998 273







 From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Dale Fraser
  Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:28 PM
  To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [cfaussie] Object Locking



 This might be a dumb question.



 But if I create an instance of an Object at Application level, such as a
 logging Object.



 Then I want to invoke the log method on every action of every page, do I
 need to lock the object before invoking the log method.



 Ie



 cfset application.Logger = createObject('component',
 'com.company.data.Logger.init()' /



 Then from other pages



 cfset result = applicationer.Logger.log(username, datetime, event) /



 Or would the cfset need to have a lock around it.



 Regards

 Dale Fraser



 http://dalefraser.blogspot.com












  



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[cfaussie] Re: Object Locking

2007-06-05 Thread Dale Fraser

Ahh,

Thats funny, would have just been easier to give me your page ;)

So we do all that local var stuff, thus should be good.

Regards
Dale Fraser

http://dalefraser.blogspot.com


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From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Mark Mandel
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:52 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Object Locking


http://www.google.com.au/search?source=ighl=enq=CFC+thread+safebtnG=Googl
e+Searchmeta=

Mark

On 6/6/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 Ok,



 So thread safe, I'm not really sure what this means. Well I know what it
 means, but what would be an example of something that's not thread safe so
 that I can think if my example would be safe.



 My thinking is that if the call to the object doesn't modify the object
it's
 self then it's safe, is that right.




 Regards

 Dale Fraser



 http://dalefraser.blogspot.com





 From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
 Of Andrew Scott
  Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:33 PM
  To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Object Locking




 Dale,



 This has been discussed many times, and the debate still rages about race
 conditions.



 The answer to your question will depend on whether a race condition will
 occur. What I have done in the past is done a cflock around global
variables
 within the cfc when being set. This will do two things, one the request is
 halted until it is finished by a predecessor and secondly you do not need
to
 worry about locking outside your package.



 Think thread safe.








  Andrew Scott
  Senior Coldfusion Developer
  Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
  www.aegeon.com.au
  Phone: +613  8676 4223
  Mobile: 0404 998 273







 From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
 Of Dale Fraser
  Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:28 PM
  To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [cfaussie] Object Locking



 This might be a dumb question.



 But if I create an instance of an Object at Application level, such as a
 logging Object.



 Then I want to invoke the log method on every action of every page, do I
 need to lock the object before invoking the log method.



 Ie



 cfset application.Logger = createObject('component',
 'com.company.data.Logger.init()' /



 Then from other pages



 cfset result = applicationer.Logger.log(username, datetime, event) /



 Or would the cfset need to have a lock around it.



 Regards

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 http://dalefraser.blogspot.com












  



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[cfaussie] Re: Object Locking

2007-06-05 Thread Andrew Scott

And Race Conditions as well Dale...

That is also a must when changing any variable that can be changed within a
thread and is global to that thread, while that thread is running. For
example you may have a global variable, that is changed and dependant on the
thread running at the time and another thread comes along and changes that
variable while your thread is still running. This can cause undesired
results.

Example:

cfcomponent

 cfset variables.IsOpen = true /

 cffunction name=testThread
  cfif variables.IsOpen
   . if one thread is reliant on this variable condition, and it is
changed
 by another thread then the results can be very unexpected.
  /cfif
 /cffunction
/cfcomponent

Race conditions are almost non existant, but the above scenario can happen.


Andrew Scott
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Phone: +613  8676 4223
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Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 1:03 PM
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Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Object Locking


Ahh,

Thats funny, would have just been easier to give me your page ;)

So we do all that local var stuff, thus should be good.

Regards
Dale Fraser

http://dalefraser.blogspot.com


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[cfaussie] Re: Get root of the application

2007-06-05 Thread Andrew Scott
Taco,

 

If you know how those 2 functions work, then you would not have asked the
question you just did.



Andrew Scott
Senior Coldfusion Developer
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www.aegeon.com.au
Phone: +613  8676 4223
Mobile: 0404 998 273

 

 

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Of Taco Fleur
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:45 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Get root of the application

 

Does that work for you if you put it in an application.cfc that extends the
root application.cfc, and access a page in that sub directory first, also
make sure the app is not initialised yet.

 

Let me know..



 

On 6/6/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

This not work for you, sure works for me?

 

getDirectoryFromPath(getCurrentTemplatePath())

 



Andrew Scott
Senior Coldfusion Developer
Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
www.aegeon.com.au http://www.aegeon.com.au/ 
Phone: +613  8676 4223
Mobile: 0404 998 273

 

 

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Taco Fleur
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:31 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Get root of the application 

 

Hi all,

 

I used be able to get the root of an application by putting something like
getCurrentTemplate() in the root application.cfm, even if I included the
root application.cfm in sub application.cfm files it would record the right
path, i.e. that of the root.

 

Now with the application.cfc I cannot get the right path anymore, because if
the application is initialised through an application.cfc in a sub
directory, it reports the path of that sub directory. I've also tried all
other functions like getBaseTemplate etc. nothing gives me the right output,
the path of the root application.cfc is what I am after.

 

Only thing I can think of is putting a cfm file in the root that outputs the
path I am after. I don't like hard coding it.

 

Thanks.

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[cfaussie] Re: asReports V0.2 alpha released

2007-06-05 Thread Dale Fraser

Andrew,

You think anyone would be interested in the whole nuFramework thingy?

I am prepared to make it Open Source, I still use it for making easy
maintenance programs and data management, just not sure if it's worthwhile
or not.

Also, the code was written like 6 years ago, seriously needs work, but I
guess if it were open source people could contribute.

Regards
Dale Fraser

http://dalefraser.blogspot.com


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Sent: Tuesday, 5 June 2007 9:31 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] asReports V0.2 alpha released


We have loads of problems with the ActiveX viewer most staff are not
local admins and cannot install the viewer when it runs for the first time.

I just prefer it as I can navigate through the groups on the report much
easier as compared to when displayed in .pdf

 Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/06/2007 9:22 am 
Scott,

Yes it handles sub reports, and no it doesn't use ActiveX viewer. I found
that cumbersum, and my boss at the time (Hi Dale) had designed a more
elligant approach.

The main idea is that you can use cfcontent to deliver the report to the
browser one it is created.

However I might look into adding the ActiveX viewer down the track.

The paramters are just a list, and they need to be the same number that is
required. Which means if one needs to be null you need to do a ListtFix (UDF
on cflib.org).





On 6/5/07, Scott Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Can it also open the report in the Crystal ActiveX viewer?

 Does it handle reports with multiple subreports?

 I had a (brief) look at it late last night. I will need to check how to
 pass the report parameters (for stored procedures) and pass it selection
 criteria.

 We are a huge Crystal 9 site, and I can see the benefit in this

  Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/06/2007 5:55 pm 
 For those of you who do not know, I have re designed some code I wrote a
 few
 years ago.

 This application is asReports, which allows you to run a Crystal Report
 from
 within Coldfusion. This has been tested on CFMX 7.02  Coldfusion 8, but
 as
 now been released to the general public as V0.2 alpha.

 The wiki on http://asReports.riaforge.org is work in progress, but have
 placed an example on how to use it.

 Some of the features, server side printing, the ability to change the
 Datasource, Database and username on the fly, without having to open the
 report and reconnect to another database. Save the report as PDF, Xcel or
 even as a Word document.

 The major update to this version is that I have added a Factory so that it
 can be used against many different versions, which as time goes on will be
 included for out of the box support.

 This has been tested on Crsytal Reports V10.


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[cfaussie] Re: asReports V0.2 alpha released

2007-06-05 Thread Andrew Scott

Dale,

I would probably say yes, the reason being as you well know to get a very
quick and easy Master / Detail database application up and running is as
easy as 123 done.

Much faster than Ruby on Rails, or any scaffolding can. Or is that me being
biased :-)

It won't suit everyone's needs, but it will suit enough people's needs.


Andrew Scott
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www.aegeon.com.au
Phone: +613  8676 4223
Mobile: 0404 998 273



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Andrew,

You think anyone would be interested in the whole nuFramework thingy?

I am prepared to make it Open Source, I still use it for making easy
maintenance programs and data management, just not sure if it's worthwhile
or not.

Also, the code was written like 6 years ago, seriously needs work, but I
guess if it were open source people could contribute.

Regards
Dale Fraser

http://dalefraser.blogspot.com


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[cfaussie] Re: asReports V0.2 alpha released

2007-06-05 Thread Dale Fraser

Ok,

I might do it then, I actually have it now as a raw format working with a
clean database and no crap.

It does include some asReports code as well obviously, but I think over time
the nuReport stuff would more easily talk to CF Report Builder.

Regards
Dale Fraser

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Dale,

I would probably say yes, the reason being as you well know to get a very
quick and easy Master / Detail database application up and running is as
easy as 123 done.

Much faster than Ruby on Rails, or any scaffolding can. Or is that me being
biased :-)

It won't suit everyone's needs, but it will suit enough people's needs.


Andrew Scott
Senior Coldfusion Developer
Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
www.aegeon.com.au
Phone: +613  8676 4223
Mobile: 0404 998 273



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Of Dale Fraser
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Subject: [cfaussie] Re: asReports V0.2 alpha released


Andrew,

You think anyone would be interested in the whole nuFramework thingy?

I am prepared to make it Open Source, I still use it for making easy
maintenance programs and data management, just not sure if it's worthwhile
or not.

Also, the code was written like 6 years ago, seriously needs work, but I
guess if it were open source people could contribute.

Regards
Dale Fraser

http://dalefraser.blogspot.com






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[cfaussie] Re: asReports V0.2 alpha released

2007-06-05 Thread Andrew Scott

CF Report Builder... Yuck...


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Of Dale Fraser
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 3:12 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: asReports V0.2 alpha released


Ok,

I might do it then, I actually have it now as a raw format working with a
clean database and no crap.

It does include some asReports code as well obviously, but I think over time
the nuReport stuff would more easily talk to CF Report Builder.

Regards
Dale Fraser

http://dalefraser.blogspot.com


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Of Andrew Scott
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 2:32 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: asReports V0.2 alpha released


Dale,

I would probably say yes, the reason being as you well know to get a very
quick and easy Master / Detail database application up and running is as
easy as 123 done.

Much faster than Ruby on Rails, or any scaffolding can. Or is that me being
biased :-)

It won't suit everyone's needs, but it will suit enough people's needs.


Andrew Scott
Senior Coldfusion Developer
Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
www.aegeon.com.au
Phone: +613  8676 4223
Mobile: 0404 998 273



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Of Dale Fraser
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 2:28 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: asReports V0.2 alpha released


Andrew,

You think anyone would be interested in the whole nuFramework thingy?

I am prepared to make it Open Source, I still use it for making easy
maintenance programs and data management, just not sure if it's worthwhile
or not.

Also, the code was written like 6 years ago, seriously needs work, but I
guess if it were open source people could contribute.

Regards
Dale Fraser

http://dalefraser.blogspot.com








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[cfaussie] Re: asReports V0.2 alpha released

2007-06-05 Thread Dale Fraser

Haha,

I know what you mean, compared to Crystal it's behind, but it's getting
better and is free.

Regards
Dale Fraser

http://dalefraser.blogspot.com


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CF Report Builder... Yuck...


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Subject: [cfaussie] Re: asReports V0.2 alpha released


Ok,

I might do it then, I actually have it now as a raw format working with a
clean database and no crap.

It does include some asReports code as well obviously, but I think over time
the nuReport stuff would more easily talk to CF Report Builder.

Regards
Dale Fraser

http://dalefraser.blogspot.com


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Of Andrew Scott
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 2:32 PM
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Subject: [cfaussie] Re: asReports V0.2 alpha released


Dale,

I would probably say yes, the reason being as you well know to get a very
quick and easy Master / Detail database application up and running is as
easy as 123 done.

Much faster than Ruby on Rails, or any scaffolding can. Or is that me being
biased :-)

It won't suit everyone's needs, but it will suit enough people's needs.


Andrew Scott
Senior Coldfusion Developer
Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
www.aegeon.com.au
Phone: +613  8676 4223
Mobile: 0404 998 273



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Of Dale Fraser
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 2:28 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: asReports V0.2 alpha released


Andrew,

You think anyone would be interested in the whole nuFramework thingy?

I am prepared to make it Open Source, I still use it for making easy
maintenance programs and data management, just not sure if it's worthwhile
or not.

Also, the code was written like 6 years ago, seriously needs work, but I
guess if it were open source people could contribute.

Regards
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http://dalefraser.blogspot.com












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[cfaussie] Re: Get root of the application

2007-06-05 Thread David Harris

how bout this?:

cfoutput#getDirectoryFromPath(expandPath(/))#/cfoutput

On Jun 6, 2:45 pm, Taco Fleur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does that work for you if you put it in an application.cfc that extends the
 root application.cfc, and access a page in that sub directory first, also
 make sure the app is not initialised yet.

 Let me know..

 On 6/6/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







   This not work for you, sure works for me?

  getDirectoryFromPath(getCurrentTemplatePath())

  Andrew Scott
  Senior Coldfusion Developer
  Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
 www.aegeon.com.au
  Phone: +613  8676 4223
  Mobile: 0404 998 273

  *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On
  Behalf Of *Taco Fleur
  *Sent:* Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:31 PM
  *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
  *Subject:* [cfaussie] Get root of the application

  Hi all,

  I used be able to get the root of an application by putting something like
  getCurrentTemplate() in the root application.cfm, even if I included the
  root application.cfm in sub application.cfm files it would record the
  right path, i.e. that of the root.

  Now with the application.cfc I cannot get the right path anymore, because
  if the application is initialised through an application.cfc in a sub
  directory, it reports the path of that sub directory. I've also tried all
  other functions like getBaseTemplate etc. nothing gives me the right output,
  the path of the root application.cfc is what I am after.

  Only thing I can think of is putting a cfm file in the root that outputs
  the path I am after. I don't like hard coding it.

  Thanks.

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[cfaussie] Re: asReports V0.2 alpha released

2007-06-05 Thread Andrew Scott

Agreed..



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Of Dale Fraser
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 3:25 PM
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Subject: [cfaussie] Re: asReports V0.2 alpha released


Haha,

I know what you mean, compared to Crystal it's behind, but it's getting
better and is free.

Regards
Dale Fraser

http://dalefraser.blogspot.com


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Of Andrew Scott
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 3:16 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: asReports V0.2 alpha released


CF Report Builder... Yuck...


Andrew Scott
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Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
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Mobile: 0404 998 273



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Subject: [cfaussie] Re: asReports V0.2 alpha released


Ok,

I might do it then, I actually have it now as a raw format working with a
clean database and no crap.

It does include some asReports code as well obviously, but I think over time
the nuReport stuff would more easily talk to CF Report Builder.

Regards
Dale Fraser

http://dalefraser.blogspot.com


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Of Andrew Scott
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 2:32 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: asReports V0.2 alpha released


Dale,

I would probably say yes, the reason being as you well know to get a very
quick and easy Master / Detail database application up and running is as
easy as 123 done.

Much faster than Ruby on Rails, or any scaffolding can. Or is that me being
biased :-)

It won't suit everyone's needs, but it will suit enough people's needs.


Andrew Scott
Senior Coldfusion Developer
Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
www.aegeon.com.au
Phone: +613  8676 4223
Mobile: 0404 998 273



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Of Dale Fraser
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 2:28 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: asReports V0.2 alpha released


Andrew,

You think anyone would be interested in the whole nuFramework thingy?

I am prepared to make it Open Source, I still use it for making easy
maintenance programs and data management, just not sure if it's worthwhile
or not.

Also, the code was written like 6 years ago, seriously needs work, but I
guess if it were open source people could contribute.

Regards
Dale Fraser

http://dalefraser.blogspot.com














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[cfaussie] Re: Get root of the application

2007-06-05 Thread Taco Fleur
If you put this in the main application.cfc file and then make sure the app
is not initialized, call a page within the sub directory (i.e. the one where
the application.cfc is that extends the main one) then you will get the path
of the sub directory and not the main root.

I've now created a .cfm file that is included onApplicationStart and sets
the appropiate variable.


On 6/6/07, David Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 how bout this?:

 cfoutput#getDirectoryFromPath(expandPath(/))#/cfoutput

 On Jun 6, 2:45 pm, Taco Fleur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Does that work for you if you put it in an application.cfc that extends
 the
  root application.cfc, and access a page in that sub directory first,
 also
  make sure the app is not initialised yet.
 
  Let me know..
 
  On 6/6/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
This not work for you, sure works for me?
 
   getDirectoryFromPath(getCurrentTemplatePath())
 
   Andrew Scott
   Senior Coldfusion Developer
   Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
  www.aegeon.com.au
   Phone: +613  8676 4223
   Mobile: 0404 998 273
 
   *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *On
   Behalf Of *Taco Fleur
   *Sent:* Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:31 PM
   *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
   *Subject:* [cfaussie] Get root of the application
 
   Hi all,
 
   I used be able to get the root of an application by putting something
 like
   getCurrentTemplate() in the root application.cfm, even if I included
 the
   root application.cfm in sub application.cfm files it would record the
   right path, i.e. that of the root.
 
   Now with the application.cfc I cannot get the right path anymore,
 because
   if the application is initialised through an application.cfc in a sub
   directory, it reports the path of that sub directory. I've also tried
 all
   other functions like getBaseTemplate etc. nothing gives me the right
 output,
   the path of the root application.cfc is what I am after.
 
   Only thing I can think of is putting a cfm file in the root that
 outputs
   the path I am after. I don't like hard coding it.
 
   Thanks.
 
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[cfaussie] Re: Get root of the application

2007-06-05 Thread David Harris

I just created a folder struct of [root]/one/two/bob.cfm
and put the code:
cfoutput#getDirectoryFromPath(expandPath(/))#/cfoutput

in bob.cfm, and it gave me the correct web root...

I also put a onRequestStart function in my Application.cfc:

cffunction name=onRequestStart output=true
p
here: cfoutput#getDirectoryFromPath(expandPath(/))#/cfoutput
/p
/cffunction

ran /one/two/bob.cfm...and the correct web root was output


so from my testing
cfoutput#getDirectoryFromPath(expandPath(/))#/cfoutput

works every time...

On Jun 6, 5:30 pm, Taco Fleur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If you put this in the main application.cfc file and then make sure the app
 is not initialized, call a page within the sub directory (i.e. the one where
 the application.cfc is that extends the main one) then you will get the path
 of the sub directory and not the main root.

 I've now created a .cfm file that is included onApplicationStart and sets
 the appropiate variable.

 On 6/6/07, David Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







  how bout this?:

  cfoutput#getDirectoryFromPath(expandPath(/))#/cfoutput

  On Jun 6, 2:45 pm, Taco Fleur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Does that work for you if you put it in an application.cfc that extends
  the
   root application.cfc, and access a page in that sub directory first,
  also
   make sure the app is not initialised yet.

   Let me know..

   On 6/6/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This not work for you, sure works for me?

getDirectoryFromPath(getCurrentTemplatePath())

Andrew Scott
Senior Coldfusion Developer
Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
   www.aegeon.com.au
Phone: +613  8676 4223
Mobile: 0404 998 273

*From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *On
Behalf Of *Taco Fleur
*Sent:* Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:31 PM
*To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* [cfaussie] Get root of the application

Hi all,

I used be able to get the root of an application by putting something
  like
getCurrentTemplate() in the root application.cfm, even if I included
  the
root application.cfm in sub application.cfm files it would record the
right path, i.e. that of the root.

Now with the application.cfc I cannot get the right path anymore,
  because
if the application is initialised through an application.cfc in a sub
directory, it reports the path of that sub directory. I've also tried
  all
other functions like getBaseTemplate etc. nothing gives me the right
  output,
the path of the root application.cfc is what I am after.

Only thing I can think of is putting a cfm file in the root that
  outputs
the path I am after. I don't like hard coding it.

Thanks.

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[cfaussie] Re: Get root of the application

2007-06-05 Thread Taco Fleur
I give up

On 6/6/07, David Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I just created a folder struct of [root]/one/two/bob.cfm
 and put the code:
 cfoutput#getDirectoryFromPath(expandPath(/))#/cfoutput

 in bob.cfm, and it gave me the correct web root...

 I also put a onRequestStart function in my Application.cfc:

 cffunction name=onRequestStart output=true
 p
 here: cfoutput#getDirectoryFromPath(expandPath(/))#/cfoutput
 /p
 /cffunction

 ran /one/two/bob.cfm...and the correct web root was output


 so from my testing
 cfoutput#getDirectoryFromPath(expandPath(/))#/cfoutput

 works every time...

 On Jun 6, 5:30 pm, Taco Fleur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If you put this in the main application.cfc file and then make sure the
 app
  is not initialized, call a page within the sub directory (i.e. the one
 where
  the application.cfc is that extends the main one) then you will get the
 path
  of the sub directory and not the main root.
 
  I've now created a .cfm file that is included onApplicationStart and
 sets
  the appropiate variable.
 
  On 6/6/07, David Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   how bout this?:
 
   cfoutput#getDirectoryFromPath(expandPath(/))#/cfoutput
 
   On Jun 6, 2:45 pm, Taco Fleur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does that work for you if you put it in an application.cfc that
 extends
   the
root application.cfc, and access a page in that sub directory first,
   also
make sure the app is not initialised yet.
 
Let me know..
 
On 6/6/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  This not work for you, sure works for me?
 
 getDirectoryFromPath(getCurrentTemplatePath())
 
 Andrew Scott
 Senior Coldfusion Developer
 Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
www.aegeon.com.au
 Phone: +613  8676 4223
 Mobile: 0404 998 273
 
 *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   *On
 Behalf Of *Taco Fleur
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:31 PM
 *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* [cfaussie] Get root of the application
 
 Hi all,
 
 I used be able to get the root of an application by putting
 something
   like
 getCurrentTemplate() in the root application.cfm, even if I
 included
   the
 root application.cfm in sub application.cfm files it would record
 the
 right path, i.e. that of the root.
 
 Now with the application.cfc I cannot get the right path anymore,
   because
 if the application is initialised through an application.cfc in a
 sub
 directory, it reports the path of that sub directory. I've also
 tried
   all
 other functions like getBaseTemplate etc. nothing gives me the
 right
   output,
 the path of the root application.cfc is what I am after.
 
 Only thing I can think of is putting a cfm file in the root that
   outputs
 the path I am after. I don't like hard coding it.
 
 Thanks.
 
 --
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 services
 
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[cfaussie] Re: Get root of the application

2007-06-05 Thread David Harris

in fact, this is the quickest:
cfoutput#expandPath(/)#/cfoutput

as it only returns the dir anyway...

On Jun 6, 5:46 pm, David Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just created a folder struct of [root]/one/two/bob.cfm
 and put the code:
 cfoutput#getDirectoryFromPath(expandPath(/))#/cfoutput

 in bob.cfm, and it gave me the correct web root...

 I also put a onRequestStart function in my Application.cfc:

 cffunction name=onRequestStart output=true
 p
 here: cfoutput#getDirectoryFromPath(expandPath(/))#/cfoutput
 /p
 /cffunction

 ran /one/two/bob.cfm...and the correct web root was output

 so from my testing
 cfoutput#getDirectoryFromPath(expandPath(/))#/cfoutput

 works every time...

 On Jun 6, 5:30 pm, Taco Fleur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  If you put this in the main application.cfc file and then make sure the app
  is not initialized, call a page within the sub directory (i.e. the one where
  the application.cfc is that extends the main one) then you will get the path
  of the sub directory and not the main root.

  I've now created a .cfm file that is included onApplicationStart and sets
  the appropiate variable.

  On 6/6/07, David Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   how bout this?:

   cfoutput#getDirectoryFromPath(expandPath(/))#/cfoutput

   On Jun 6, 2:45 pm, Taco Fleur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does that work for you if you put it in an application.cfc that extends
   the
root application.cfc, and access a page in that sub directory first,
   also
make sure the app is not initialised yet.

Let me know..

On 6/6/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  This not work for you, sure works for me?

 getDirectoryFromPath(getCurrentTemplatePath())

 Andrew Scott
 Senior Coldfusion Developer
 Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
www.aegeon.com.au
 Phone: +613  8676 4223
 Mobile: 0404 998 273

 *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   *On
 Behalf Of *Taco Fleur
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:31 PM
 *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* [cfaussie] Get root of the application

 Hi all,

 I used be able to get the root of an application by putting something
   like
 getCurrentTemplate() in the root application.cfm, even if I included
   the
 root application.cfm in sub application.cfm files it would record the
 right path, i.e. that of the root.

 Now with the application.cfc I cannot get the right path anymore,
   because
 if the application is initialised through an application.cfc in a sub
 directory, it reports the path of that sub directory. I've also tried
   all
 other functions like getBaseTemplate etc. nothing gives me the right
   output,
 the path of the root application.cfc is what I am after.

 Only thing I can think of is putting a cfm file in the root that
   outputs
 the path I am after. I don't like hard coding it.

 Thanks.

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