Re: [cfaussie] Melbourne CFUG Programme 2010, request for presenters

2010-03-24 Thread Phil Haeusler
So i guess you'll all be after something a little more challenging this year? :) Note to self: better not leave it to the day before again. Phil -Original Message- From: Robin Hilliard To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:27:57 +1100 Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Melbourn

Re: [cfaussie] Re: RocketBoots - Galaxy

2010-03-24 Thread Robin Hilliard
Funnily enough, at the time I was putting in my talk details it looked like I was going to be writing requirements documents all year (ah, the perks of high office) so I'm talking about requirements :-). It will still be an earth-shatterlingly good presentation, of course... Robin

Re: [cfaussie] Melbourne CFUG Programme 2010, request for presenters

2010-03-24 Thread Robin Hilliard
BTW, yes, CodeWar is on this year on day 0 of webdu, we're just getting the details together. Happy to help with a CodeWar event or CodeWar-like event at CFObjective - the questions all come from Melbourne anyway courtesy of quiz-master Hausler... Robin On 25/03/2010, at 12:03 PM, Mark Mandel

Re: [cfaussie] Melbourne CFUG Programme 2010, request for presenters

2010-03-24 Thread Peter Robertson
Excellent! On 25 March 2010 12:03, Mark Mandel wrote: > I'm sure we can rustle up something, somewhere ;o) > > Maybe we come up with an idea for a special event, or possible do a CodeWar > like Robin does at WebDU. Or even maybe do a national CFUG like has been > done in the past at WebDU's... a

Re: [cfaussie] Re: RocketBoots - Galaxy

2010-03-24 Thread AJ Mercer
Hi Robin, Will you be showing this off at webDU? On 25 March 2010 07:49, Robin Hilliard wrote: > On 25/03/2010, at 10:22 AM, Mark Mandel wrote: > > Found it - > http://trac.rocketboots.com/os/wiki/GalaxySoa > > Mark > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:18 AM, nkosi wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> Can any

Re: [cfaussie] Melbourne CFUG Programme 2010, request for presenters

2010-03-24 Thread Mark Mandel
I'm sure we can rustle up something, somewhere ;o) Maybe we come up with an idea for a special event, or possible do a CodeWar like Robin does at WebDU. Or even maybe do a national CFUG like has been done in the past at WebDU's... all sorts of good options are available, and plenty of time to work

Re: [cfaussie] Melbourne CFUG Programme 2010, request for presenters

2010-03-24 Thread Peter Robertson
OK, thanks Mark, thanks Kai, I'm convinced, we'll do the Wed 17th Nov, night before CFObjective. Mark, could you line up one of your CFObj speakers to do a pres for us do you think? Peter On 25 March 2010 11:14, Mark Mandel wrote: > We're not doing an early rego this year (we only had 15 people

[cfaussie] Re: RocketBoots - Galaxy

2010-03-24 Thread nkosi
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Re: [cfaussie] Melbourne CFUG Programme 2010, request for presenters

2010-03-24 Thread Mark Mandel
We're not doing an early rego this year (we only had 15 people show up last year)... so howabout we organise a big CFUG user group the night before? Mark On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Peter Robertson wrote: > Yes, Kai, it's a good suggestion, and I'm still in two minds, so it's > open for ch

Re: [cfaussie] Melbourne CFUG Programme 2010, request for presenters

2010-03-24 Thread Peter Robertson
Yes, Kai, it's a good suggestion, and I'm still in two minds, so it's open for change. My reluctance is that local people (chief among them Mark of course) will be very busy that week and I didn't know the likelihood of people coming in early enough to attend (or perhaps even present?). Also, if

Re: [cfaussie] Melbourne CFUG Programme 2010, request for presenters

2010-03-24 Thread Peter Robertson
Thanks Dale, that's great. Peter On 25 March 2010 08:52, Dale Fraser wrote: > Peter, > > Im always happy to fill any empty slot you end up with. > > My ColdFusion & Flex (aka Flash Builder) talk was quite popular, but I could > also do something new. > > Regards > Dale Fraser > > http://dale.fra

Re: [cfaussie] Re: Melbourne CFUG Programme 2010, request for presenters

2010-03-24 Thread Peter Robertson
Thanks Gavin, you're in. Real-world experience will be very valuable. Cheers Peter On 25 March 2010 09:01, Gavin Baumanis wrote: > Hi Peter, > > Put me down for a presentation in August, please. > the topic will be somethng along the lnes of a case study for our > current project of updating

Re: [cfaussie] Re: RocketBoots - Galaxy

2010-03-24 Thread Robin Hilliard
On 25/03/2010, at 10:22 AM, Mark Mandel wrote: > Found it - > http://trac.rocketboots.com/os/wiki/GalaxySoa > > Mark > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:18 AM, nkosi wrote: > Hi All, > > Can anyone point me to the 'alpha alpha alpha' Galaxy repo. I'd like > to take a gander. Hi Glen (and thanks Ma

Re: [cfaussie] CFqueryparam value's in debug output

2010-03-24 Thread Blair McKenzie
Try dumping the entire error. There is another variable that contains the parameters. On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Scott Thornton < scott.thorn...@hnehealth.nsw.gov.au> wrote: > > Yup, cfqueryparms can be seen in dumps of sql queries. > > I guess I was referring to in particular was when an

RE: [cfaussie] CFqueryparam value's in debug output

2010-03-24 Thread Scott Thornton
Yup, cfqueryparms can be seen in dumps of sql queries. I guess I was referring to in particular was when an error occurs and the error object is used in displaying error detail. apologies for the confusion. eg: #error.rootCause.SQL#, #error.rootCause.tagContext[1].SQL# etc. There is no paramet

Re: [cfaussie] Re: RocketBoots - Galaxy

2010-03-24 Thread Mark Mandel
Found it - http://trac.rocketboots.com/os/wiki/GalaxySoa Mark On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:18 AM, nkosi wrote: > Hi All, > > Can anyone point me to the 'alpha alpha alpha' Galaxy repo. I'd like > to take a gander. > > I have been looking into SOA (well SOA-lite) for our internally hosted > web ap

[cfaussie] Re: RocketBoots - Galaxy

2010-03-24 Thread nkosi
Hi All, Can anyone point me to the 'alpha alpha alpha' Galaxy repo. I'd like to take a gander. I have been looking into SOA (well SOA-lite) for our internally hosted web applications. We have CF, PHP, .Net applications and have had real issues with cross compitability from WSDL generation to data

RE: [cfaussie] CFqueryparam value's in debug output

2010-03-24 Thread Steve Onnis
If you use the result argument and dump that you will get the params -Original Message- From: Scott Thornton [mailto:scott.thorn...@hnehealth.nsw.gov.au] Sent: Thursday, 25 March 2010 8:47 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] CFqueryparam value's in debug output G'day,

Re: [cfaussie] Re: Melbourne CFUG Programme 2010, request for presenters

2010-03-24 Thread Mark Mandel
Gavin, This sounds really cool ;o) I know / have known lots of people going through similar pains, and will be interested to see your perspective. Mark On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Gavin Baumanis wrote: > Hi Peter, > > Put me down for a presentation in August, please. > the topic will be s

Re: [cfaussie] CFqueryparam value's in debug output

2010-03-24 Thread Blair McKenzie
queryparam values are included in error output and cfcatch structs if the the error was in the SQL execution. You shouldn't have to modify anything. Blair On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Scott Thornton < scott.thorn...@hnehealth.nsw.gov.au> wrote: > G'day, > > Is there any way to access the val

[cfaussie] Re: Melbourne CFUG Programme 2010, request for presenters

2010-03-24 Thread Gavin Baumanis
Hi Peter, Put me down for a presentation in August, please. the topic will be somethng along the lnes of a case study for our current project of updating and old application written in spaghetti- code to using (I'll Insert the what we used and how...once I know). I'm guessing it will have co

RE: [cfaussie] Melbourne CFUG Programme 2010, request for presenters

2010-03-24 Thread Dale Fraser
Peter, Im always happy to fill any empty slot you end up with. My ColdFusion & Flex (aka Flash Builder) talk was quite popular, but I could also do something new. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com -Original Message- Fr

[cfaussie] CFqueryparam value's in debug output

2010-03-24 Thread Scott Thornton
G'day, Is there any way to access the values for cfqueryparam's in debug output? I am pretty sure I saw a blog entry by someone showing a modification of a file(s) in the coldfusion directory but I cannot find it for the life of me. I'd like to include the query values in a site wide error tem

Re: [cfaussie] Melbourne CFUG Programme 2010, request for presenters

2010-03-24 Thread Kai Koenig
I think you actually should look into having a meeting during cfO week - there are lots of CF people in town then and not everyone attending the CFUG might be attending cfO. It'd be a good idea to move away from the Th then as that would be a conference day - but maybe the Wed night? Also - don

Re: [cfaussie] Melbourne CFUG Programme 2010, request for presenters

2010-03-24 Thread Peter Robertson
Thanks Mark, you're on. Now, who's next? Peter On 24 March 2010 23:04, Mark Mandel wrote: > Put me down for June 17th. > > I reckon I'll be free ;o) > > Mark > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Peter Robertson > wrote: >> >> This is a general invitation to all Melbourne CFUGers (and FLEXers

[cfaussie] Flex builder source code

2010-03-24 Thread Pat
Hi All, I know this is a bit off the CF topic, but this group is just so much more active than aussie flex group. Anyway, has anyone had a play with the Flex builder source code (http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/243/4b243413.html) to make anything usable as a Flex IDE? Thanks in advance. -- You receiv

Re: [cfaussie] Melbourne CFUG Programme 2010, request for presenters

2010-03-24 Thread Mark Mandel
Put me down for June 17th. I reckon I'll be free ;o) Mark On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Peter Robertson wrote: > This is a general invitation to all Melbourne CFUGers (and FLEXers for > that matter) who would like to contribute a presentation to our User > Group. > > Pick a topic you're exc

[cfaussie] Melbourne CFUG Programme 2010, request for presenters

2010-03-24 Thread Peter Robertson
This is a general invitation to all Melbourne CFUGers (and FLEXers for that matter) who would like to contribute a presentation to our User Group. Pick a topic you're excited about and see if you can't get us excited too, it's as simple as that. We're looking for presentations of 1 to 1.5 hours o

[cfaussie] Re: [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-24 Thread Peter Robertson
You make very fine points Robin, thank you, and an excellent idea to give people the opportunity to step up for this year's presentations while it is a hot topic and stirring some passions. I have done as you suggested, but made it a new thread, so hopefully it won't get lost. All folk in Melbourne

Re: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-24 Thread Robin Hilliard
On 24/03/2010, at 9:05 PM, Andrew Scott wrote: > Steve / Mark, > > First of all this was not an entire dig at you guys, the point is that there > are very few Melbourne UG’s each year. That can be a downer to most, because > it can come across as why would I bother to turn up to something that

Re: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-24 Thread Robin Hilliard
On 24/03/2010, at 4:48 PM, Mike Kear wrote: > Oh so it's turned into a Rocketboots commercial message instead then? Well that's a classic Mike line* :-) I would share it with our accounts department but it would take so long to explain to them how anyone could think that hosting, reimbursing ex

RE: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-24 Thread Andrew Scott
Steve / Mark, First of all this was not an entire dig at you guys, the point is that there are very few Melbourne UG's each year. That can be a downer to most, because it can come across as why would I bother to turn up to something that can't be run regularly, or no sorry but that topic doesn'

Re: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-24 Thread Mike Kear
Andrew, please dont make this worse than it already is. I asked a simple question, that Mark Mandel thought was a sideswipe at Robin, but was never intended that way, and now its turned into a huge "Mike Kear bashed Adobe" mess. I wasnt criticising anyone, just asking a question that came out lik

RE: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-24 Thread Steve Onnis
Ok my turn We actually had quite a few meetings last year, and even if we did only have 3 meetings, they are all well broadcasted and plenty of notification is given so you couldn't even make it to 3 meetings? Seriously, everyone who is involved with any user group should be applauded for t

Re: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-24 Thread Mark Mandel
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Andrew Scott wrote: > I only have one thing to say, as the message that seems to be drummed into > us. Is that we should get involved in our UG, well what if that user group > meets like 3 times a year? > Then offer to take over the UG and do a better job. The ch

RE: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-24 Thread Andrew Scott
Mike, you and I are very alike we say it like we see it. I only have one thing to say, as the message that seems to be drummed into us. Is that we should get involved in our UG, well what if that user group meets like 3 times a year? If the UG managers can't organise a place for a community to ge

Re: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-24 Thread Mike Kear
No, Toby. I rarely post on CF-Aussie on anything other than technical matters. Because that's what the list is for. Mark Mandell is confused about that too - he quoted me apparently on this list, but the list he's quoting is the CF-TALK list. I have been involved in two threads (meaning multip

Re: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-24 Thread Mike Kear
As to "regularly" complaining about the state of affairs of CF - i have started one thread lamenting the lack of activity on Adobe's part in selling ColdFusion about a year or so ago, and I joined a discussion along with many others about 5 years ago. Apart from that, despite some people's impre

Re: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-24 Thread Mark Mandel
Mike, Everything I just said, you have publicly stated. For example: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:60733 "Anyway, these are the reasons i think the trends tell me ColdFusion is either a dead duck of soon to be a dead duck at least in Sydney anyway." "[A] there

Re: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-24 Thread Toby Tremayne
Actually Mike everything he's referred to you have air regularly and often on this mailing list... Toby On 24/03/2010, at 6:53 PM, Mike Kear wrote: I dont think its appropriate for you to bring private conversations i have had with you into the public domain like this In fact i am very annoy

Re: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-24 Thread Mike Kear
I dont think its appropriate for you to bring private conversations i have had with you into the public domain like this In fact i am very annoyed that you have done that. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com Co

Re: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] CFBuilder Launch and CF App Architecture for the Impatient

2010-03-24 Thread Paul Kukiel
I was also there and thought the concept was really great and even if things are pure alpha I think it's totaly worh while and I'm always walking away with new ideas. Robin is a great presenter and worth comming to a CFUG for. Paul Kukiel On 24/03/2010, at 5:00 PM, Mark Mandel wrote: H