Re: [cfaussie] Melbourne Adobe Developers next meeting, 21st July 2011, presentation details
Sorry Peter can't make it this time. Have fun and I'll see you next month. Cheers. On 18/07/2011, at 10:49 AM, Peter Robertson peter.r.robert...@gmail.com wrote: Here are the full details for this Thursday's presentation. *** Remember, please RSVP if you're attending so that we can arrange catering. *** Presentation 1: Ayudh Nagara Topic: Web Widgets * What, Why, How? * The widget business model * Basic framework and tools * Getting around the AJAX same origin rule * Demo Ayudh Nagara is co-founder and director of Xilo Online, a web and mobile payment gateway provider. He has been using ColdFusion since Version 2, and ColdFusion remains the primary application server for this business, as well as other web application projects he has worked on over the years. Prior to that, Ayudh worked for IBM for over 25 years in a number of technical, sales and management roles. Ayudh's current area of interest and continued learning is in the fast growing area of rich UI's and front-end web application development covering AJAX, JSON, jQuery, DHTML, CSS and Javascript. Presentation 2: Phil Haeusler Topic: Multi-Device Mobile Development See how simple it is to use Flash Builder to build apps for Apple, Android and Blackberry Playbook devices. Using the Flex Mobile components and Adobe AIR, we'll cover the work flow of developing a multi-device app from the setting up of an empty project to deploying the app on multiple-devices and publishing to the Apple, Android and Blackberry online stores. And to prove that it's not all smoke and mirrors, we'll build a social app that can be deployed to mobile devices at the user group. Phil is an independent software consultant who codes for food. Often found using ColdFusion, Flex and the greater Adobe product stack, Phil advocates best practice approaches to development methodologies, testing and deployment security. He is a long time RocketBoots partner and CodeWar quizmaster. Date: Thursday 21 July 2011 Time: 6:30 PM Location: CogState Level 2 255 Bourke Street Melbourne, VIC, 3000 A note on the door will provide a number to ring for access. RSVP: Please reply to this post if you are planning to attend so we know how many pizzas to order. As always, many thanks to Dale Fraser and CogState for their hospitality. We look forward to seeing you all there. Peter Robertson Co-Manager Melbourne Adobe Developers Steve Onnis Manager Melbourne Adobe Developers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] REMINDER : Melbourne Adobe Developers next meeting, 21st July 2011, presentation details
I'll be there. Paul K On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.auwrote: Here are the full details for this Thursday's presentation. *** Remember, please RSVP if you're attending so that we can arrange catering. *** Presentation 1: Ayudh Nagara Topic: Web Widgets * What, Why, How? * The widget business model * Basic framework and tools * Getting around the AJAX same origin rule * Demo Ayudh Nagara is co-founder and director of Xilo Online, a web and mobile payment gateway provider. He has been using ColdFusion since Version 2, and ColdFusion remains the primary application server for this business, as well as other web application projects he has worked on over the years. Prior to that, Ayudh worked for IBM for over 25 years in a number of technical, sales and management roles. Ayudh's current area of interest and continued learning is in the fast growing area of rich UI's and front-end web application development covering AJAX, JSON, jQuery, DHTML, CSS and Javascript. Presentation 2: Phil Haeusler Topic: Multi-Device Mobile Development See how simple it is to use Flash Builder to build apps for Apple, Android and Blackberry Playbook devices. Using the Flex Mobile components and Adobe AIR, we'll cover the work flow of developing a multi-device app from the setting up of an empty project to deploying the app on multiple-devices and publishing to the Apple, Android and Blackberry online stores. And to prove that it's not all smoke and mirrors, we'll build a social app that can be deployed to mobile devices at the user group. Phil is an independent software consultant who codes for food. Often found using ColdFusion, Flex and the greater Adobe product stack, Phil advocates best practice approaches to development methodologies, testing and deployment security. He is a long time RocketBoots partner and CodeWar quizmaster. Date: Thursday 21 July 2011 Time: 6:30 PM Location: CogState Level 2 255 Bourke Street Melbourne, VIC, 3000 A note on the door will provide a number to ring for access. RSVP: Please reply to this post if you are planning to attend so we know how many pizzas to order. As always, many thanks to Dale Fraser and CogState for their hospitality. We look forward to seeing you all there. Peter Robertson Co-Manager Melbourne Adobe Developers Steve Onnis Manager Melbourne Adobe Developers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- Paul Kukiel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] REMINDER : Melbourne Adobe Developers next meeting, 21st July 2011, presentation details
Unfortunately I can't make it. Have fun without me! :) Mark On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Paul Kukiel kuki...@gmail.com wrote: I'll be there. Paul K On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.auwrote: Here are the full details for this Thursday's presentation. *** Remember, please RSVP if you're attending so that we can arrange catering. *** Presentation 1: Ayudh Nagara Topic: Web Widgets * What, Why, How? * The widget business model * Basic framework and tools * Getting around the AJAX same origin rule * Demo Ayudh Nagara is co-founder and director of Xilo Online, a web and mobile payment gateway provider. He has been using ColdFusion since Version 2, and ColdFusion remains the primary application server for this business, as well as other web application projects he has worked on over the years. Prior to that, Ayudh worked for IBM for over 25 years in a number of technical, sales and management roles. Ayudh's current area of interest and continued learning is in the fast growing area of rich UI's and front-end web application development covering AJAX, JSON, jQuery, DHTML, CSS and Javascript. Presentation 2: Phil Haeusler Topic: Multi-Device Mobile Development See how simple it is to use Flash Builder to build apps for Apple, Android and Blackberry Playbook devices. Using the Flex Mobile components and Adobe AIR, we'll cover the work flow of developing a multi-device app from the setting up of an empty project to deploying the app on multiple-devices and publishing to the Apple, Android and Blackberry online stores. And to prove that it's not all smoke and mirrors, we'll build a social app that can be deployed to mobile devices at the user group. Phil is an independent software consultant who codes for food. Often found using ColdFusion, Flex and the greater Adobe product stack, Phil advocates best practice approaches to development methodologies, testing and deployment security. He is a long time RocketBoots partner and CodeWar quizmaster. Date: Thursday 21 July 2011 Time: 6:30 PM Location: CogState Level 2 255 Bourke Street Melbourne, VIC, 3000 A note on the door will provide a number to ring for access. RSVP: Please reply to this post if you are planning to attend so we know how many pizzas to order. As always, many thanks to Dale Fraser and CogState for their hospitality. We look forward to seeing you all there. Peter Robertson Co-Manager Melbourne Adobe Developers Steve Onnis Manager Melbourne Adobe Developers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- Paul Kukiel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- E: mark.man...@gmail.com T: http://www.twitter.com/neurotic W: www.compoundtheory.com cf.Objective(ANZ) + Flex - Nov 17, 18 - Melbourne Australia http://www.cfobjective.com.au -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
RE: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder 2 Hotfix
I'm on windows, C:\Users\dfraserjava 'java' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. Im sure I could fix this by stuffing around a bit, seems like a half baked solution by Adobe. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Zac Spitzer Sent: Thursday, 21 July 2011 3:37 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder 2 Hotfix just add the CFbuilder2 jvm to your path... or set JAVA_HOME if you can type java at the command prompt it should work On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote: Well the hotfix installer wants me to install a JVM first. I don't have a JVM installed, and don't really see why I need to since I didn't need it to install ColdFusion or FlexBuilder builder in the first place. I'm assuming there is one built into eclipse, but the hotfix installer doesn't know about it or how to use it. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gavin Baumanis Sent: Wednesday, 20 July 2011 3:28 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder 2 Hotfix Hi Dale, There is a JRE as part of eclipse. I assume it is complaining about that. I am not trying to be insulting, but I assume you have tried the usual suspects? * Re-downloading the patch? * Applying the patch to a different CFBuilder install? * Creating a new workspace first? I don't have a windows version of CFBuilder.. (well actually I don't have a windows machine handy) - to do any testing / trials... On my Mac I had no issues with installing the patch - worked a charm, first time. sarcasm Maybe it's the apple gods telling you something.It's time to renounce Windows as an operating system of quality and value. The latest Mac OS upgrade cost is only $30 /sarcasm Beau. On Jul 20, 2:12 pm, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote: Get this when trying to install Not sure, why I now need a JVM. I managed to install the builder without a JVM. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.auhttp://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.comhttp://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.comhttp://learncf.com http://flexcf.comhttp://flexcf.com image001.png 17KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:cfaussie%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:cfaussie%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- Zac Spitzer Solution Architect / Director Ennoble Consultancy Australia http://www.ennoble.com.au http://zacster.blogspot.com +61 405 847 168 tel:%2B61%20405%20847%20168 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] REMINDER : Melbourne Adobe Developers next meeting, 21st July 2011, presentation details
I can't make it either tonight - will hopefully be able to get to the next one! Cheers, Steve On 21 July 2011 16:22, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately I can't make it. Have fun without me! :) Mark On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Paul Kukiel kuki...@gmail.com wrote: I'll be there. Paul K On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.auwrote: Here are the full details for this Thursday's presentation. *** Remember, please RSVP if you're attending so that we can arrange catering. *** Presentation 1: Ayudh Nagara Topic: Web Widgets * What, Why, How? * The widget business model * Basic framework and tools * Getting around the AJAX same origin rule * Demo Ayudh Nagara is co-founder and director of Xilo Online, a web and mobile payment gateway provider. He has been using ColdFusion since Version 2, and ColdFusion remains the primary application server for this business, as well as other web application projects he has worked on over the years. Prior to that, Ayudh worked for IBM for over 25 years in a number of technical, sales and management roles. Ayudh's current area of interest and continued learning is in the fast growing area of rich UI's and front-end web application development covering AJAX, JSON, jQuery, DHTML, CSS and Javascript. Presentation 2: Phil Haeusler Topic: Multi-Device Mobile Development See how simple it is to use Flash Builder to build apps for Apple, Android and Blackberry Playbook devices. Using the Flex Mobile components and Adobe AIR, we'll cover the work flow of developing a multi-device app from the setting up of an empty project to deploying the app on multiple-devices and publishing to the Apple, Android and Blackberry online stores. And to prove that it's not all smoke and mirrors, we'll build a social app that can be deployed to mobile devices at the user group. Phil is an independent software consultant who codes for food. Often found using ColdFusion, Flex and the greater Adobe product stack, Phil advocates best practice approaches to development methodologies, testing and deployment security. He is a long time RocketBoots partner and CodeWar quizmaster. Date: Thursday 21 July 2011 Time: 6:30 PM Location: CogState Level 2 255 Bourke Street Melbourne, VIC, 3000 A note on the door will provide a number to ring for access. RSVP: Please reply to this post if you are planning to attend so we know how many pizzas to order. As always, many thanks to Dale Fraser and CogState for their hospitality. We look forward to seeing you all there. Peter Robertson Co-Manager Melbourne Adobe Developers Steve Onnis Manager Melbourne Adobe Developers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- Paul Kukiel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- E: mark.man...@gmail.com T: http://www.twitter.com/neurotic W: www.compoundtheory.com cf.Objective(ANZ) + Flex - Nov 17, 18 - Melbourne Australia http://www.cfobjective.com.au -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder 2 Hotfix
Dale, That doesn't indicate that Java is not installed, java can still be installed and not have the JAVA_HOME and path variables setup. I also will make the assumption that you have tried downloading the file again, and running it as an administrator. I was able to install it on my laptop here which does have a JVM installed but it is not accessible via the commandline because the JAVA_HOME and path has not been setup to find the JVM. But it does sound weird what you are experiencing though. At what point are you also seeing this error, is it when running the installer, or is it after patching the hotfix and running CFB, or is it when it is unpacking the file to install? On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote: I’m on windows, ** ** C:\Users\dfraserjava 'java' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. ** ** ** ** Im sure I could fix this by stuffing around a bit, seems like a half baked solution by Adobe. ** ** Regards Dale Fraser ** ** http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com ** ** *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Zac Spitzer *Sent:* Thursday, 21 July 2011 3:37 PM *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder 2 Hotfix ** ** just add the CFbuilder2 jvm to your path... or set JAVA_HOME if you can type java at the command prompt it should work On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote:*** * Well the hotfix installer wants me to install a JVM first. I don’t have a JVM installed, and don’t really see why I need to since I didn’t need it to install ColdFusion or FlexBuilder builder in the first place. I'm assuming there is one built into eclipse, but the hotfix installer doesn’t know about it or how to use it. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gavin Baumanis Sent: Wednesday, 20 July 2011 3:28 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder 2 Hotfix Hi Dale, There is a JRE as part of eclipse. I assume it is complaining about that. I am not trying to be insulting, but I assume you have tried the usual suspects? * Re-downloading the patch? * Applying the patch to a different CFBuilder install? * Creating a new workspace first? I don't have a windows version of CFBuilder.. (well actually I don't have a windows machine handy) - to do any testing / trials... On my Mac I had no issues with installing the patch - worked a charm, first time. sarcasm Maybe it's the apple gods telling you something.It's time to renounce Windows as an operating system of quality and value. The latest Mac OS upgrade cost is only $30 /sarcasm Beau. On Jul 20, 2:12 pm, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote: Get this when trying to install Not sure, why I now need a JVM. I managed to install the builder without a JVM. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.auhttp://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.comhttp://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.comhttp://learncf.com http://flexcf.comhttp://flexcf.com image001.png 17KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- Zac Spitzer Solution Architect / Director Ennoble Consultancy Australia http://www.ennoble.com.au http://zacster.blogspot.com +61 405 847 168 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder 2 Hotfix
ok, add C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe ColdFusion Builder 2\jre\bin to your path then login, logout yeah it's a bit half baked, but we are developers :) z On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote: I’m on windows, ** ** C:\Users\dfraserjava 'java' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. ** ** ** ** Im sure I could fix this by stuffing around a bit, seems like a half baked solution by Adobe. ** ** Regards Dale Fraser ** ** http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com ** ** *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Zac Spitzer *Sent:* Thursday, 21 July 2011 3:37 PM *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder 2 Hotfix ** ** just add the CFbuilder2 jvm to your path... or set JAVA_HOME if you can type java at the command prompt it should work On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote:*** * Well the hotfix installer wants me to install a JVM first. I don’t have a JVM installed, and don’t really see why I need to since I didn’t need it to install ColdFusion or FlexBuilder builder in the first place. I'm assuming there is one built into eclipse, but the hotfix installer doesn’t know about it or how to use it. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gavin Baumanis Sent: Wednesday, 20 July 2011 3:28 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder 2 Hotfix Hi Dale, There is a JRE as part of eclipse. I assume it is complaining about that. I am not trying to be insulting, but I assume you have tried the usual suspects? * Re-downloading the patch? * Applying the patch to a different CFBuilder install? * Creating a new workspace first? I don't have a windows version of CFBuilder.. (well actually I don't have a windows machine handy) - to do any testing / trials... On my Mac I had no issues with installing the patch - worked a charm, first time. sarcasm Maybe it's the apple gods telling you something.It's time to renounce Windows as an operating system of quality and value. The latest Mac OS upgrade cost is only $30 /sarcasm Beau. On Jul 20, 2:12 pm, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote: Get this when trying to install Not sure, why I now need a JVM. I managed to install the builder without a JVM. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.auhttp://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.comhttp://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.comhttp://learncf.com http://flexcf.comhttp://flexcf.com image001.png 17KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- Zac Spitzer Solution Architect / Director Ennoble Consultancy Australia http://www.ennoble.com.au http://zacster.blogspot.com +61 405 847 168 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- Zac Spitzer Solution Architect / Director Ennoble Consultancy Australia http://www.ennoble.com.au http://zacster.blogspot.com +61 405 847 168 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder 2 Hotfix
Yeah I just went over and helped him out ;) That's what we did and it works fine. Paul On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Zac Spitzer zac.spit...@gmail.com wrote: ok, add C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe ColdFusion Builder 2\jre\bin to your path then login, logout yeah it's a bit half baked, but we are developers :) z On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote: I’m on windows, ** ** C:\Users\dfraserjava 'java' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. ** ** ** ** Im sure I could fix this by stuffing around a bit, seems like a half baked solution by Adobe. ** ** Regards Dale Fraser ** ** http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com ** ** *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Zac Spitzer *Sent:* Thursday, 21 July 2011 3:37 PM *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder 2 Hotfix ** ** just add the CFbuilder2 jvm to your path... or set JAVA_HOME if you can type java at the command prompt it should work On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote:** ** Well the hotfix installer wants me to install a JVM first. I don’t have a JVM installed, and don’t really see why I need to since I didn’t need it to install ColdFusion or FlexBuilder builder in the first place. I'm assuming there is one built into eclipse, but the hotfix installer doesn’t know about it or how to use it. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gavin Baumanis Sent: Wednesday, 20 July 2011 3:28 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder 2 Hotfix Hi Dale, There is a JRE as part of eclipse. I assume it is complaining about that. I am not trying to be insulting, but I assume you have tried the usual suspects? * Re-downloading the patch? * Applying the patch to a different CFBuilder install? * Creating a new workspace first? I don't have a windows version of CFBuilder.. (well actually I don't have a windows machine handy) - to do any testing / trials... On my Mac I had no issues with installing the patch - worked a charm, first time. sarcasm Maybe it's the apple gods telling you something.It's time to renounce Windows as an operating system of quality and value. The latest Mac OS upgrade cost is only $30 /sarcasm Beau. On Jul 20, 2:12 pm, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote: Get this when trying to install Not sure, why I now need a JVM. I managed to install the builder without a JVM. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.auhttp://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.comhttp://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.comhttp://learncf.com http://flexcf.comhttp://flexcf.com image001.png 17KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- Zac Spitzer Solution Architect / Director Ennoble Consultancy Australia http://www.ennoble.com.au http://zacster.blogspot.com +61 405 847 168 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- Zac Spitzer Solution Architect / Director Ennoble Consultancy Australia http://www.ennoble.com.au http://zacster.blogspot.com +61 405 847 168 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this
RE: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder 2 Hotfix
Yes, That worked, still I think it's bad that updater doesn't just look there, it knows where ColdFusion Builder is. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Zac Spitzer Sent: Thursday, 21 July 2011 4:45 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder 2 Hotfix ok, add C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe ColdFusion Builder 2\jre\bin to your path then login, logout yeah it's a bit half baked, but we are developers :) z On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote: I'm on windows, C:\Users\dfraserjava 'java' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. Im sure I could fix this by stuffing around a bit, seems like a half baked solution by Adobe. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Zac Spitzer Sent: Thursday, 21 July 2011 3:37 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder 2 Hotfix just add the CFbuilder2 jvm to your path... or set JAVA_HOME if you can type java at the command prompt it should work On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote: Well the hotfix installer wants me to install a JVM first. I don't have a JVM installed, and don't really see why I need to since I didn't need it to install ColdFusion or FlexBuilder builder in the first place. I'm assuming there is one built into eclipse, but the hotfix installer doesn't know about it or how to use it. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gavin Baumanis Sent: Wednesday, 20 July 2011 3:28 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder 2 Hotfix Hi Dale, There is a JRE as part of eclipse. I assume it is complaining about that. I am not trying to be insulting, but I assume you have tried the usual suspects? * Re-downloading the patch? * Applying the patch to a different CFBuilder install? * Creating a new workspace first? I don't have a windows version of CFBuilder.. (well actually I don't have a windows machine handy) - to do any testing / trials... On my Mac I had no issues with installing the patch - worked a charm, first time. sarcasm Maybe it's the apple gods telling you something.It's time to renounce Windows as an operating system of quality and value. The latest Mac OS upgrade cost is only $30 /sarcasm Beau. On Jul 20, 2:12 pm, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote: Get this when trying to install Not sure, why I now need a JVM. I managed to install the builder without a JVM. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.auhttp://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.comhttp://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.comhttp://learncf.com http://flexcf.comhttp://flexcf.com image001.png 17KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:cfaussie%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:cfaussie%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- Zac Spitzer Solution Architect / Director Ennoble Consultancy Australia http://www.ennoble.com.au http://zacster.blogspot.com +61 405 847 168 tel:%2B61%20405%20847%20168 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:cfaussie%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- Zac Spitzer Solution Architect / Director Ennoble Consultancy Australia http://www.ennoble.com.au http://zacster.blogspot.com
RE: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder 2 Hotfix
And by help me out, He means steal Zac's idea and repeat it to me. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Kukiel Sent: Thursday, 21 July 2011 4:51 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder 2 Hotfix Yeah I just went over and helped him out ;) That's what we did and it works fine. Paul On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Zac Spitzer zac.spit...@gmail.com wrote: ok, add C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe ColdFusion Builder 2\jre\bin to your path then login, logout yeah it's a bit half baked, but we are developers :) z On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote: I'm on windows, C:\Users\dfraserjava 'java' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. Im sure I could fix this by stuffing around a bit, seems like a half baked solution by Adobe. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Zac Spitzer Sent: Thursday, 21 July 2011 3:37 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder 2 Hotfix just add the CFbuilder2 jvm to your path... or set JAVA_HOME if you can type java at the command prompt it should work On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote: Well the hotfix installer wants me to install a JVM first. I don't have a JVM installed, and don't really see why I need to since I didn't need it to install ColdFusion or FlexBuilder builder in the first place. I'm assuming there is one built into eclipse, but the hotfix installer doesn't know about it or how to use it. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gavin Baumanis Sent: Wednesday, 20 July 2011 3:28 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder 2 Hotfix Hi Dale, There is a JRE as part of eclipse. I assume it is complaining about that. I am not trying to be insulting, but I assume you have tried the usual suspects? * Re-downloading the patch? * Applying the patch to a different CFBuilder install? * Creating a new workspace first? I don't have a windows version of CFBuilder.. (well actually I don't have a windows machine handy) - to do any testing / trials... On my Mac I had no issues with installing the patch - worked a charm, first time. sarcasm Maybe it's the apple gods telling you something.It's time to renounce Windows as an operating system of quality and value. The latest Mac OS upgrade cost is only $30 /sarcasm Beau. On Jul 20, 2:12 pm, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote: Get this when trying to install Not sure, why I now need a JVM. I managed to install the builder without a JVM. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.auhttp://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.comhttp://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.comhttp://learncf.com http://flexcf.comhttp://flexcf.com image001.png 17KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:cfaussie%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:cfaussie%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- Zac Spitzer Solution Architect / Director Ennoble Consultancy Australia http://www.ennoble.com.au http://zacster.blogspot.com +61 405 847 168 tel:%2B61%20405%20847%20168 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:cfaussie%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- Zac
RE: [cfaussie] Melbourne Adobe Developers next meeting, 21st July 2011, presentation details
Hey folks, if those talks are not going to be recorded, I'd be happy to have them presented on the Online CF Meetup (coldfusionmeetup.com) later this month or next (or Sept). Phil and Ayudh, if you may be interested, let me know (char...@carehart.org). And BTW, this offer goes for any of you who may have presentations you may like to give to CF audiences. No problem if the talks are not a full hour (or if they are). Happy to have you both on one show together or each on your own. And while our shows are usually at 12pm and 6pm US ET, so you the latter may be all that works well for you, if it still does not, I'm open to you having it at yet another time. While there are over 2600 members of the meetup, each session tends to have only about 30-50 people, so no need to fear you're presenting to a huge audience. Really, it feels more like a one-on-one thing, since you can't really see the audience. More on questions that speakers may have, at http://speak.coldfusionmeetup.com. /charlie Here are the full details for this Thursday's presentation. *** Remember, please RSVP if you're attending so that we can arrange catering. *** Presentation 1: Ayudh Nagara Topic: Web Widgets * What, Why, How? * The widget business model * Basic framework and tools * Getting around the AJAX same origin rule * Demo Ayudh Nagara is co-founder and director of Xilo Online, a web and mobile payment gateway provider. He has been using ColdFusion since Version 2, and ColdFusion remains the primary application server for this business, as well as other web application projects he has worked on over the years. Prior to that, Ayudh worked for IBM for over 25 years in a number of technical, sales and management roles. Ayudh's current area of interest and continued learning is in the fast growing area of rich UI's and front-end web application development covering AJAX, JSON, jQuery, DHTML, CSS and Javascript. Presentation 2: Phil Haeusler Topic: Multi-Device Mobile Development See how simple it is to use Flash Builder to build apps for Apple, Android and Blackberry Playbook devices. Using the Flex Mobile components and Adobe AIR, we'll cover the work flow of developing a multi-device app from the setting up of an empty project to deploying the app on multiple-devices and publishing to the Apple, Android and Blackberry online stores. And to prove that it's not all smoke and mirrors, we'll build a social app that can be deployed to mobile devices at the user group. Phil is an independent software consultant who codes for food. Often found using ColdFusion, Flex and the greater Adobe product stack, Phil advocates best practice approaches to development methodologies, testing and deployment security. He is a long time RocketBoots partner and CodeWar quizmaster. Date: Thursday 21 July 2011 Time: 6:30 PM Location: CogState Level 2 255 Bourke Street Melbourne, VIC, 3000 A note on the door will provide a number to ring for access. RSVP: Please reply to this post if you are planning to attend so we know how many pizzas to order. As always, many thanks to Dale Fraser and CogState for their hospitality. We look forward to seeing you all there. Peter Robertson Co-Manager Melbourne Adobe Developers Steve Onnis Manager Melbourne Adobe Developers -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
[cfaussie] Mac OSX Lion
Hi There, For all those Mac users out there you might find this article interesting from Adobe; http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/905/cpsid_90508.html which contains the following; * Java Runtime needs to be installed manually, otherwise applications may behave inconsistently * Flash Builder Flash Builder 4.0.x will not work on Mac OS X 10.7. Adobe does not intend to update this product for use on Mac OS X 10.7. Flash Builder 4.5 is generally compatible with Mac OS X Lion; however, we have discovered issues that may degrade the user experience or affect use of the products. We do not recommend that these customers upgrade to Mac OS X 10.7. * Flash Catalyst Flash Catalyst CS5 will not work on Mac OS X 10.7. Adobe does not intend to update this product for use on Mac OS X 10.7. Flash Catalyst CS5.5 is generally compatible with Mac OS X Lion; however, we have discovered issues that may degrade the user experience or affect use of the products. We do not recommend that these customers upgrade to Mac OS X 10.7. Interestingly there is no mention of ColdFusion Builder in the article. Looks like I will not be upgrading straight away Gavin. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
[cfaussie] [ANN SYD] Monday: Mockups with Balsamiq
Monday 25th July, 6pm for 6:30 start Balsamiq Mockups is a cross-platform tool for creating screen, application and website mockups and has the capability to be exported and fed into code generation utilities. Tonight, Chris will be demonstrating and discussing Balsamiq Mockups. The venue is courtesy of Rocketboots. Please RSVP to help with the catering numbers. You need to sign in and join the group to RSVP. Please RSVP at http://apugs.groups.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=post.displaypostid=37676 Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Adobe Platform Users Group, Sydney m: 0415 469 095 www.apugs.org.au Adobe Platform Users Group, Sydney Topic: Mockups With Balsamiq Date: 25th July 6pm for 6:30 start Details and RSVP on http://apugs.groups.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=post.displaypostid=37676 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Mac OSX Lion
Hi Gavin and everyone I've had Flash Builder 4.5 running all day today, and haven't come across any problems with Lion so far. ColdFusion is another story. As far as i can tell, right now I can only get ColdFusion 9.0 running if i run it as root. CF 9.01 seems to hang halfway through startup and you have to end up killing the process, even when running as root. If you've got a critical piece of CF work to get done, don't upgrade your machine unless you want to spend a few hours trying to figure out why it isn't working and then downgrading your install. Also, if you want to install Lion on several machines, back up the downloaded Installer before you run it. Otherwise it's gone afterwards and you have to get it again. I speak from experience here. Phil On 22/07/11 2:45 PM, Gavin Baumanis wrote: Hi There, For all those Mac users out there you might find this article interesting from Adobe; http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/905/cpsid_90508.html which contains the following; * Java Runtime needs to be installed manually, otherwise applications may behave inconsistently * Flash Builder Flash Builder 4.0.x will not work on Mac OS X 10.7. Adobe does not intend to update this product for use on Mac OS X 10.7. Flash Builder 4.5 is generally compatible with Mac OS X Lion; however, we have discovered issues that may degrade the user experience or affect use of the products. We do not recommend that these customers upgrade to Mac OS X 10.7. * Flash Catalyst Flash Catalyst CS5 will not work on Mac OS X 10.7. Adobe does not intend to update this product for use on Mac OS X 10.7. Flash Catalyst CS5.5 is generally compatible with Mac OS X Lion; however, we have discovered issues that may degrade the user experience or affect use of the products. We do not recommend that these customers upgrade to Mac OS X 10.7. Interestingly there is no mention of ColdFusion Builder in the article. Looks like I will not be upgrading straight away Gavin. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Mac OSX Lion
Sorry, I don't want to appear more than a smart-arse as I need to be - but to make my point: If you've got a critical piece of CF work to get done, don't upgrade your machine unless you want to spend a few hours trying to figure out why it isn't working and then downgrading your install. If you've got a critical piece of ANYTHING to get done, would one then really upgrade one's machine to a new OS as an early adopter on day 1 or 2? Seriously people? I usually wait 2-3 weeks for installing 10.x.x point upgrades for very good reasons, let alone a 10.x upgrade. Cheers Kai -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
