RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

2011-11-28 Thread charlie arehart
Steve, are you asking me? I'd think you'd want to direct your question to
Adobe. And I'm not sure many of them are on this list. 

I was just sharing info to try to help with your original question. (And
yes, I was aware of the EOL issue for ICEBrowser, and that many of the hits
I said one would see address it, so I didn't see the need to press the point
here.)

So as for your original question, did the pointer to the docs and things
that are known not to work perhaps help with the challenge you're having?
Just trying to focus on helping with what we can, here and now.

/charlie

 

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steve Onnis
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 11:48 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

 

According to the ice browser website, ice browser and all of the products
went end of life status a year ago and last product release 2 years ago.

 

When is Adobe gonna get off its b-hind and do something about this? There
are soo many open source browser engines out there like webkit for example
that will do a much better job, and being that Adobe OWNS Acrobat, you would
think they would have done it a lng time ago

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RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

2011-11-28 Thread Steve Onnis
Thats just it. IceBrowser is EOL now so there is nothing to download and
support is only being given to existing customers so it looks like i might
have to use a 3rd party app to do my pdf generation which is dissapointing

 

From: charlie arehart [mailto:charlie_li...@carehart.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 9:37 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

 

Thanks, good to hear. :-) But how about those resources: might they help you
resolve your problems until somehow Adobe improves things?

 

/charlie

 

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steve Onnis
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 5:33 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

 

Hahaha, no, i was just venting. It wasn't directed specifically at you J

 

From: charlie arehart [mailto:charlie_li...@carehart.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 4:22 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

 

Steve, are you asking me? I'd think you'd want to direct your question to
Adobe. And I'm not sure many of them are on this list. 

I was just sharing info to try to help with your original question. (And
yes, I was aware of the EOL issue for ICEBrowser, and that many of the hits
I said one would see address it, so I didn't see the need to press the point
here.)

So as for your original question, did the pointer to the docs and things
that are known not to work perhaps help with the challenge you're having?
Just trying to focus on helping with what we can, here and now.

/charlie

 

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Of Steve Onnis
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 11:48 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

 

According to the ice browser website, ice browser and all of the products
went end of life status a year ago and last product release 2 years ago.

 

When is Adobe gonna get off its b-hind and do something about this? There
are soo many open source browser engines out there like webkit for example
that will do a much better job, and being that Adobe OWNS Acrobat, you would
think they would have done it a lng time ago

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RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

2011-11-28 Thread Dale Fraser
I find that using report builder I get pixel level control over PDF's

 

It's a quirky tool that takes some patience, but far superior to having
cfdocument guess a layout.

 

Regards

Dale Fraser

 

http://dale.fraser.id.au

http://cfmldocs.com

http://learncf.com

http://flexcf.com

 

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steve Onnis
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 9:44 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

 

Thats just it. IceBrowser is EOL now so there is nothing to download and
support is only being given to existing customers so it looks like i might
have to use a 3rd party app to do my pdf generation which is dissapointing

 

From: charlie arehart [mailto:charlie_li...@carehart.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 9:37 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

 

Thanks, good to hear. :-) But how about those resources: might they help you
resolve your problems until somehow Adobe improves things?

 

/charlie

 

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steve Onnis
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 5:33 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

 

Hahaha, no, i was just venting. It wasn't directed specifically at you J

 

From: charlie arehart [mailto:charlie_li...@carehart.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 4:22 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

 

Steve, are you asking me? I'd think you'd want to direct your question to
Adobe. And I'm not sure many of them are on this list. 

I was just sharing info to try to help with your original question. (And
yes, I was aware of the EOL issue for ICEBrowser, and that many of the hits
I said one would see address it, so I didn't see the need to press the point
here.)

So as for your original question, did the pointer to the docs and things
that are known not to work perhaps help with the challenge you're having?
Just trying to focus on helping with what we can, here and now.

/charlie

 

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steve Onnis
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 11:48 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

 

According to the ice browser website, ice browser and all of the products
went end of life status a year ago and last product release 2 years ago.

 

When is Adobe gonna get off its b-hind and do something about this? There
are soo many open source browser engines out there like webkit for example
that will do a much better job, and being that Adobe OWNS Acrobat, you would
think they would have done it a lng time ago

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RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

2011-11-28 Thread Steve Onnis
Will cfreport generate HTML?

 

From: Dale Fraser [mailto:d...@fraser.id.au] 
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 10:42 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

 

I find that using report builder I get pixel level control over PDF's

 

It's a quirky tool that takes some patience, but far superior to having
cfdocument guess a layout.

 

Regards

Dale Fraser

 

http://dale.fraser.id.au

http://cfmldocs.com

http://learncf.com

http://flexcf.com

 

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steve Onnis
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 9:44 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

 

Thats just it. IceBrowser is EOL now so there is nothing to download and
support is only being given to existing customers so it looks like i might
have to use a 3rd party app to do my pdf generation which is dissapointing

 

From: charlie arehart [mailto:charlie_li...@carehart.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 9:37 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

 

Thanks, good to hear. :-) But how about those resources: might they help you
resolve your problems until somehow Adobe improves things?

 

/charlie

 

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steve Onnis
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 5:33 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

 

Hahaha, no, i was just venting. It wasn't directed specifically at you J

 

From: charlie arehart [mailto:charlie_li...@carehart.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 4:22 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

 

Steve, are you asking me? I'd think you'd want to direct your question to
Adobe. And I'm not sure many of them are on this list. 

I was just sharing info to try to help with your original question. (And
yes, I was aware of the EOL issue for ICEBrowser, and that many of the hits
I said one would see address it, so I didn't see the need to press the point
here.)

So as for your original question, did the pointer to the docs and things
that are known not to work perhaps help with the challenge you're having?
Just trying to focus on helping with what we can, here and now.

/charlie

 

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steve Onnis
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 11:48 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

 

According to the ice browser website, ice browser and all of the products
went end of life status a year ago and last product release 2 years ago.

 

When is Adobe gonna get off its b-hind and do something about this? There
are soo many open source browser engines out there like webkit for example
that will do a much better job, and being that Adobe OWNS Acrobat, you would
think they would have done it a lng time ago

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RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

2011-11-28 Thread Dale Fraser
format = PDF|FlashPaper|Excel|RTF|HTML|XML 

Regards

Dale Fraser

 

http://dale.fraser.id.au

http://cfmldocs.com

http://learncf.com

http://flexcf.com

 

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steve Onnis
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 10:46 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

 

Will cfreport generate HTML?

 

From: Dale Fraser [mailto:d...@fraser.id.au] 
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 10:42 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

 

I find that using report builder I get pixel level control over PDF's

 

It's a quirky tool that takes some patience, but far superior to having
cfdocument guess a layout.

 

Regards

Dale Fraser

 

http://dale.fraser.id.au

http://cfmldocs.com

http://learncf.com

http://flexcf.com

 

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steve Onnis
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 9:44 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

 

Thats just it. IceBrowser is EOL now so there is nothing to download and
support is only being given to existing customers so it looks like i might
have to use a 3rd party app to do my pdf generation which is dissapointing

 

From: charlie arehart [mailto:charlie_li...@carehart.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 9:37 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

 

Thanks, good to hear. :-) But how about those resources: might they help you
resolve your problems until somehow Adobe improves things?

 

/charlie

 

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steve Onnis
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 5:33 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

 

Hahaha, no, i was just venting. It wasn't directed specifically at you J

 

From: charlie arehart [mailto:charlie_li...@carehart.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 4:22 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

 

Steve, are you asking me? I'd think you'd want to direct your question to
Adobe. And I'm not sure many of them are on this list. 

I was just sharing info to try to help with your original question. (And
yes, I was aware of the EOL issue for ICEBrowser, and that many of the hits
I said one would see address it, so I didn't see the need to press the point
here.)

So as for your original question, did the pointer to the docs and things
that are known not to work perhaps help with the challenge you're having?
Just trying to focus on helping with what we can, here and now.

/charlie

 

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steve Onnis
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 11:48 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

 

According to the ice browser website, ice browser and all of the products
went end of life status a year ago and last product release 2 years ago.

 

When is Adobe gonna get off its b-hind and do something about this? There
are soo many open source browser engines out there like webkit for example
that will do a much better job, and being that Adobe OWNS Acrobat, you would
think they would have done it a lng time ago

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RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

2011-11-28 Thread charlie arehart
Steve, my point was that the CF doc (link I gave) talks specifically about
what things it does and doesn't support well. I was just proposing that
rather than give up on it entirely (which I'd understand) you may be able to
finesse it to work as is. Totally your call. Just wanted to make sure the
pointed I offered wasn't missed.

 

/charlie

 

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steve Onnis
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 5:44 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

 

Thats just it. IceBrowser is EOL now so there is nothing to download and
support is only being given to existing customers so it looks like i might
have to use a 3rd party app to do my pdf generation which is dissapointing

 

From: charlie arehart [mailto:charlie_li...@carehart.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 9:37 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [cfaussie] CFDOCUMENT rendering

 

Thanks, good to hear. :-) But how about those resources: might they help you
resolve your problems until somehow Adobe improves things?

 

/charlie

 

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RE: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

2011-11-28 Thread Steve Onnis
Has anyone got the search/replace to work on a project in ColdFusion Builder
2 ?

 

If i do a search i get results but when i do a replace it says it couldn't
find anything...

 

From: Steve Onnis [mailto:st...@cfcentral.com.au] 
Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 9:51 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

 

I thought i might have been the only having these experiences one but it
looks like im not so i may just forward them onto Adobe J

 

From: Kai Koenig [mailto:k...@koeni.de] 
Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 6:59 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

 

Just a random thought (note: I don't have/see any of those issues people
seem to have with the product - I actually think the search works great)...

 

Have you guys ever tried to make those suggestions/rants to Adobe. Not to
Adobe corporate - we all know that it's ... well... rather difficult to get
through to them. 

 

But to the CF/CF Builder product/engineering team directly? To (ex)-folks in
product management like Adam or Rakshith? To Hemant or Rupesh in engineering
management? Or to Terry? They've been to events like webDU or cf.O(ANZ) in
the past - or - hey, actually just last week. The CF product team is _by
far_ the easiest-to-approach product team within whole Adobe. If anyone
_honestly_ wants to get in touch with those guys and help to improve the
software so that it's more useful for you or your team or your whole company
- I'm more than happy to put you in touch, just let me know.

 

Instead of complaining how much one misses Homesite or how bad one thinks
CFB is etc - do something about it if you don't like it. Give direct
feedback. Ask them for solutions/workarounds. Ask them to be part of
pre-release programs and contribute in there. But don't magically expect a
tool that's exactly doing what you want it to do and exactly how you want it
to be done.

 

Just saying, 

Kai

 

 

I'm so glad I'm not the only one.

I have tried so hard to like it. This is my second go at using it and
I have been on it for 6 months or more now and I still don't like it
nearly as much as HomeSite+.

Might be a great CFUG to demo a few other options like IntelliJ etc.

Rawdy

On Nov 24, 6:09 pm, Andrew Myers am2...@gmail.com wrote:

-  The search is just useless really.  If you search for

something in a project, it would be much more useful if you could

drill down into the line in the file where the search instance appears

instead of having to hunt through the file

 

 

CTRL - F, change scope to projects, select a project, press find all,

and you get a search results view which has a tree view which has

next match / previous match options, and expands to show each match

in each file.  Click it to go to the exact line of the match.  By

default the search view opens in the right hand pane.  I prefer to

move it to the bottom pane (somewhere near the servers view).  If

you're not seeing it go to Window - Show View - Search

 

 

 

-  Searching in the file you are working on/have open is

flakey.  I always get a No file open message and im like WTF?  I

have to select a different source and then choose the Current document

option again for it to work.

 

 

Have never seen this myself.  Has anyone else noticed it?

 

 

 

-  There is no direction option for the search which means if

you want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of

the document for it to search the whole thing

 

 

In the CTRL - F dialog there is a search backwards option I

also like to to enable the Wrap search option too

 

 

 

-  You have to open a new search box for every file you have open.

 

 

I don't see this behaviour at all.  CTRL - F allows you to repeat

your search on every open file - select files using the workspace

editor tabs and repeat the search in there if you want.

 

Andrew.

 

On 24 November 2011 17:46, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:

 

Refer to my first email

 

-Original Message-

From: Andrew Myers [mailto:am2...@gmail.com]

Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 5:37 PM

To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

 

What makes you say so?

 

On 24 November 2011 17:21, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:

Thats the worst search feature of them all

 

-Original Message-

From: Andrew Myers [mailto:am2...@gmail.com]

Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 5:02 PM

To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

 

Also, from an open File you can do CTRL F which brings up a find

dialog similar to Dreamweaver where you can search current document,

all open documents, project, workspace, etc.

 

Initially I disliked this, because it is different to Eclipse's

default behaviour.  But it's pretty good.

 

On 24 November 2011 16:31, Peter Robertson 

Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

2011-11-28 Thread M@ Bourke
Select the results you wish to replace

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RE: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

2011-11-28 Thread Steve Onnis
The Aptana panel replace function says there are no results, but if i use
the File Search panel it works.

 

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Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

2011-11-28 Thread Barry Chesterman
I'm on CFBuilder2 and I have to say the default search which uses Aptana
File Search was horrid - like you say, no way to jump to the line in the
file where the search result is.
However, in the search dialog under Customize.. I turned off the Aptana
File Search and now just use the 'File search' option which shows the lines
in files search results are on and allows you to jump forwards and
backwards through search results.

I found the aptana search would quite often not find a match for my search
when I knew that value was in a file in the area I was searching so that
was very wierd.

Since not using the Aptana search I haven't had a problem.

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:

 The Aptana panel replace function says there are no results, but if i use
 the File Search panel it works.

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Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

2011-11-28 Thread Andrew Myers
Hi Barry,

Very interesting.  I've never even noticed the Aptana search tab there.  This 
could well explain why some users found it better than others.  Great tipz

Andrew

On 29/11/2011, at 12:20 PM, Barry Chesterman barrychester...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm on CFBuilder2 and I have to say the default search which uses Aptana File 
 Search was horrid - like you say, no way to jump to the line in the file 
 where the search result is.
 However, in the search dialog under Customize.. I turned off the Aptana File 
 Search and now just use the 'File search' option which shows the lines in 
 files search results are on and allows you to jump forwards and backwards 
 through search results.
 
 I found the aptana search would quite often not find a match for my search 
 when I knew that value was in a file in the area I was searching so that was 
 very wierd.
 
 Since not using the Aptana search I haven't had a problem.
 
 On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:
 The Aptana panel replace function says there are no results, but if i use the 
 File Search panel it works.
 
  
 
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