Re: [cfaussie] Re: cfchart
Hey Charlie, Instead of having a just list of things, have you considered making it a little app where developers can comment and rate each item like the review system on amazon? Maybe even a rating system like ebay with 3-5 rows of star (price, ease of use, responsiveness...) That might give it a bit more traction, especially if you can order items by category and rating. Fuck dude, make it a mobile app ;-) Don't go thinking people don't appreciate your efforts buddy, I'm sure everyone on here's either watched some of your recorded preso, or clicked on a link on cf411 (which is a poor name I think, because no one outside of the US would have a goddamn idea what 411 refers to, let alone remember it). do you have google analytics on it, so you can see who goes there and how often? Cheers, Tof P.S.: Sorry about all the swearing. This is Oz, that's what we do :-D On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 7:30 AM, charlie arehart charlie_li...@carehart.org wrote: Thanks, Brett. That’s an…interesting…way to look at it. :-) I suppose I see that benefit. And if at least others did mention it when such questions came up, I’d be happy to see that. Otherwise it seems I’m usually the only one (on this and other lists), even when I wait a couple of days to see if anyone else does. That’s a bit disheartening—and may even make some think that no one else knows or cares about it. I appreciate your (and Peter’s) kind regards then all the more. As for your appreciating that you hear from others offering alternatives when someone asks if there are any, I’ll note this: certainly if someone asks folks to share their experience working with alternatives (not just “what are alternatives”), then that’s when it makes sense for folks to share individual alternatives, with added opinion, since I don’t offer that on the category lists. But when someone just asks, “what are alternatives for x”, it would just be nice to see someone point out (in addition to any they may favor) that “you can find more alternatives in that category at cf411.com”. :-) Not everyone reads every message in every thread, so I’m sure there are always some who would not already know about it. Thanks for letting me vent for a minute, folks. :-) /charlie ** ** *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Brett Payne-Rhodes *Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:59 AM *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [cfaussie] Re: cfchart ** ** For myself at least there is a huge finge benefit to people NOT going directly to CF411.com and that is that I get to hear and learn about these really useful tools before I actually need them... Plus I get reminded about the site as well. Thanks for the great resource Charlie. It might not be top-of-mind but it is definitely appreciated. B) ** ** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Re: Convert cf date to milliseconds since the epoch?
At my work, we even have custom ones. When people whinge, we say they scrunch because frowning makes their face look like a scrunchie ( http://www.fancypocket.sg/images/P/703998P.jpg). There's also this one girl who scrunches all the time and has massive... well, you know. We call her Whine-rack. Tof On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Andrew Myers am2...@gmail.com wrote: I use them interchangeably Charlie. It even together. My kids are so good at it they 'whinge and whine' all day! Sent from my mobile On 16/02/2012, at 2:21 PM, charlie arehart charlie_li...@carehart.org wrote: Yeah, leave such whining to me. :-) Thinking of my note earlier today. Groan. Sorry 'bout that, folks. Actually, don't you guys say whinging anyway? :-) /charlie -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Myers Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:02 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: Convert cf date to milliseconds since the epoch? I think I'll just do what i was initially trying to do and write a function that creates a Java date and be done with it. In fact if I'd have stopped whining and just written the damn thing id be on to the next problem by now :) On 16/02/2012, at 12:43 PM, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: CreateDate() ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
RE: [cfaussie] Re: cfchart
Thanks, Christophe. Yes, I have long wanted to improve the CF411 site to be more than just a long list. I mention that in the 2nd paragraph-meaning, I'm well aware of the opps for improvement. :-) I look to improve this interface over time, adding RSS feeds for when I add/change items, perhaps enabling comments per tool/resource, etc. We'll see. The good news is that this work is in fact underway. Can't say when, but it will eventually be very different and I hope therefore to be more effective (I should add to that list, social networking integration to make it easier for others to share their observations about it to others, etc.) A mobile app is an interesting idea, sure. Thanks for that. Will be much easier after a redesign. I also hope to have separate landing pages per category and tool-which may also help with SEO, as well as to then add better searching. Thanks for the general encouragement about my resources. As for the fact that 411 is not a universal concept, it's a fair point but I'm not sure I want to rebrand now. I kind of hope that most in the CF world would at least be familiar with the term, since so much else about CF has tended to be US-centric (for better or worse). As for analytics, honestly, I don't bother with them. I have in the past, but I suspect like most people, I'd look at it, think, that's interesting, and move on, not knowing much I can do with the info. I suppose you're saying that if I saw that lots of people were visiting, that should give me some comfort about its reach, and that may well do so. But my point here in this thread was really about how few people seem to mention it, when the specific questions of what are alternatives for x come up. It just seems that unless people spread the word, it would remain a domain of the cognoscenti. :-) But back to your original points, yes, perhaps if I improve both the look and feel, add RSS feeds, make it easier to sharing things on social networking, etc., that will help make it more visible. /charlie From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christophe albrech Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 4:48 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: cfchart Hey Charlie, Instead of having a just list of things, have you considered making it a little app where developers can comment and rate each item like the review system on amazon? Maybe even a rating system like ebay with 3-5 rows of star (price, ease of use, responsiveness...) That might give it a bit more traction, especially if you can order items by category and rating. Fuck dude, make it a mobile app ;-) Don't go thinking people don't appreciate your efforts buddy, I'm sure everyone on here's either watched some of your recorded preso, or clicked on a link on cf411 (which is a poor name I think, because no one outside of the US would have a goddamn idea what 411 refers to, let alone remember it). do you have google analytics on it, so you can see who goes there and how often? Cheers, Tof P.S.: Sorry about all the swearing. This is Oz, that's what we do :-D -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
[cfaussie] Re: MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers Meeting Feb 16 2012 StageWebView (AIR), Backbone (JS)
We are having trouble reliable streaming the pizza, once we resolve this issue, then we will go live every month. Until then the only way to get the pizza is to come down to the event. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
[cfaussie] Re: MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers Meeting Feb 16 2012 StageWebView (AIR), Backbone (JS)
Fair point Dale. Last time I saw someone attempting to stream pizza it was not pretty. :P -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
RE: [cfaussie] Re: MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers Meeting Feb 16 2012 StageWebView (AIR), Backbone (JS)
Take my word for it. When pizza is streaming, the upstream defiantly looks a lot different to the downstream -Original Message- From: Rawdyn [mailto:raw...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 17 February 2012 11:43 AM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers Meeting Feb 16 2012 StageWebView (AIR), Backbone (JS) Fair point Dale. Last time I saw someone attempting to stream pizza it was not pretty. :P -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Re: MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers Meeting Feb 16 2012 StageWebView (AIR), Backbone (JS)
That's due to the massive fragmentation in the process. On 17 February 2012 12:12, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: Take my word for it. When pizza is streaming, the upstream defiantly looks a lot different to the downstream -Original Message- From: Rawdyn [mailto:raw...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 17 February 2012 11:43 AM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers Meeting Feb 16 2012 StageWebView (AIR), Backbone (JS) Fair point Dale. Last time I saw someone attempting to stream pizza it was not pretty. :P -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Recommendations for a CF Framework.
What languages / frameworks have you been using in the meantime? Possibly that's worth taking into account. That aside, FW/1 is definitely worth a look. http://fw1.riaforge.org/ Regards, Andrew. On 4 February 2012 13:55, MossyBlog scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote: Firstly, kudos for sticking it out with CF all these years! :) Secondly, I'm keen to brush the dust off my old CF skills and try it out again feeling more armed in the plethora of languages I've acquired over the years. That being said, I'm also keen to see what all the cool kids are using with regards to CF after market addons. Mach-II? or did i just show my age. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Recommendations for a CF Framework.
As others have said there are plenty of CF frameworks to choose from. One that hasn't been mentioned yet is FarCry. As a CMS it works well, but one non-scientific study found a strong correlation between prolonged exposure to FarCry and excessive use of expletives such as f**k, c**k, and dogr***er. The study was unable to prove or disprove causation, but recommends developers exposed to FarCry exercise caution and be on the lookout for these known symptoms. Hope that helps, -- Dennis On Feb 17, 2012 12:36 PM, MossyBlog scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote: Firstly, kudos for sticking it out with CF all these years! :) Secondly, I'm keen to brush the dust off my old CF skills and try it out again feeling more armed in the plethora of languages I've acquired over the years. That being said, I'm also keen to see what all the cool kids are using with regards to CF after market addons. Mach-II? or did i just show my age. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Recommendations for a CF Framework.
does FarCry still revolve around millions of GUID's ? On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Dennis Clark boomf...@gmail.com wrote: As others have said there are plenty of CF frameworks to choose from. One that hasn't been mentioned yet is FarCry. As a CMS it works well, but one non-scientific study found a strong correlation between prolonged exposure to FarCry and excessive use of expletives such as f**k, c**k, and dogr***er. The study was unable to prove or disprove causation, but recommends developers exposed to FarCry exercise caution and be on the lookout for these known symptoms. Hope that helps, -- Dennis On Feb 17, 2012 12:36 PM, MossyBlog scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote: Firstly, kudos for sticking it out with CF all these years! :) Secondly, I'm keen to brush the dust off my old CF skills and try it out again feeling more armed in the plethora of languages I've acquired over the years. That being said, I'm also keen to see what all the cool kids are using with regards to CF after market addons. Mach-II? or did i just show my age. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- Zac Spitzer Solution Architect / Director Ennoble Consultancy Australia http://www.ennoble.com.au http://zacster.blogspot.com +61 405 847 168 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
RE: [cfaussie] Recommendations for a CF Framework.
Thank you, AJ. And if it's not clear, that's the URL that gets redirected to from the easier to use www.cf411.com/cffw_app. :-) /charlie From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of AJ Mercer Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 8:59 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Recommendations for a CF Framework. From Mr Arehart's collection http://www.carehart.org/cf411/#cffw_app -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
RE: [cfaussie] Re: MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers Meeting Feb 16 2012 StageWebView (AIR), Backbone (JS)
It means you need more bandwidth. All issues we need to resolve. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Moniz Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 8:15 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers Meeting Feb 16 2012 StageWebView (AIR), Backbone (JS) That's due to the massive fragmentation in the process. On 17 February 2012 12:12, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: Take my word for it. When pizza is streaming, the upstream defiantly looks a lot different to the downstream -Original Message- From: Rawdyn [mailto:raw...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 17 February 2012 11:43 AM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers Meeting Feb 16 2012 tel:16%202012 StageWebView (AIR), Backbone (JS) Fair point Dale. Last time I saw someone attempting to stream pizza it was not pretty. :P -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:cfaussie%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:cfaussie%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
RE: [cfaussie] Recommendations for a CF Framework.
I'd recommend no framework. Frameworks are for people who don't know what they are doing :P Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MossyBlog Sent: Friday, 3 February 2012 9:56 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Recommendations for a CF Framework. Firstly, kudos for sticking it out with CF all these years! :) Secondly, I'm keen to brush the dust off my old CF skills and try it out again feeling more armed in the plethora of languages I've acquired over the years. That being said, I'm also keen to see what all the cool kids are using with regards to CF after market addons. Mach-II? or did i just show my age. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Re: cfchart
Ah ok. Sorry your quote must be from a previous email and I had only read the latest one. As for 411, I understand that it is too late now to rebrand, but I don't entirely agree with the following assumption: I kind of hope that most in the CF world would at least be familiar with the term. I grew up in France, have lived in Australia for nearly 10 years, and spend about 1.5 years in the US in the middle. Still, when I read your email yesterday I had to look up 411. I'll go further, I have no idea what the number is here either. My phone's got google, so why waste my time talking to someone :-) Finally, yes that's what I meant with google analytics. Have you also considered the fact that people don't mention your site because they are well aware you spend time on various mailing list and are most likely to chime in anyway? On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:16 AM, charlie arehart charlie_li...@carehart.org wrote: Thanks, Christophe. Yes, I have long wanted to improve the CF411 site to be more than just a long list. I mention that in the 2ndparagraph—meaning, I’m well aware of the opps for improvement. :-) “I look to improve this interface over time, adding RSS feeds for when I add/change items, perhaps enabling comments per tool/resource, etc. We'll see.” The good news is that this work is in fact underway. Can’t say when, but it will eventually be very different and I hope therefore to be more effective (I should add to that list, social networking integration to make it easier for others to share their observations about it to others, etc.) A mobile app is an interesting idea, sure. Thanks for that. Will be much easier after a redesign. I also hope to have separate landing pages per category and tool—which may also help with SEO, as well as to then add better searching. Thanks for the general encouragement about my resources. As for the fact that 411 is not a universal concept, it’s a fair point but I’m not sure I want to rebrand now. I kind of hope that most in the CF world would at least be familiar with the term, since so much else about CF has tended to be US-centric (for better or worse). As for analytics, honestly, I don’t bother with them. I have in the past, but I suspect like most people, I’d look at it, think, “that’s interesting”, and move on, not knowing much I can do with the info. I suppose you’re saying that if I saw that lots of people were visiting, that should give me some comfort about its reach, and that may well do so. But my point here in this thread was really about how few people seem to mention it, when the specific questions of “what are alternatives for x” come up. It just seems that unless people spread the word, it would remain a domain of the cognoscenti. :-) But back to your original points, yes, perhaps if I improve both the look and feel, add RSS feeds, make it easier to sharing things on social networking, etc., that will help make it more visible. /charlie ** ** *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *christophe albrech *Sent:* Thursday, February 16, 2012 4:48 AM *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [cfaussie] Re: cfchart ** ** Hey Charlie, Instead of having a just list of things, have you considered making it a little app where developers can comment and rate each item like the review system on amazon? Maybe even a rating system like ebay with 3-5 rows of star (price, ease of use, responsiveness...) That might give it a bit more traction, especially if you can order items by category and rating. Fuck dude, make it a mobile app ;-) Don't go thinking people don't appreciate your efforts buddy, I'm sure everyone on here's either watched some of your recorded preso, or clicked on a link on cf411 (which is a poor name I think, because no one outside of the US would have a goddamn idea what 411 refers to, let alone remember it). do you have google analytics on it, so you can see who goes there and how often? Cheers, Tof P.S.: Sorry about all the swearing. This is Oz, that's what we do :-D ** ** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Recommendations for a CF Framework.
Thanks Dale. Apparently I have no idea what I'm doing. Mark On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote: I'd recommend no framework. Frameworks are for people who don't know what they are doing :P Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MossyBlog Sent: Friday, 3 February 2012 9:56 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Recommendations for a CF Framework. Firstly, kudos for sticking it out with CF all these years! :) Secondly, I'm keen to brush the dust off my old CF skills and try it out again feeling more armed in the plethora of languages I've acquired over the years. That being said, I'm also keen to see what all the cool kids are using with regards to CF after market addons. Mach-II? or did i just show my age. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- E: mark.man...@gmail.com T: http://www.twitter.com/neurotic W: www.compoundtheory.com 2 Devs from Down Under Podcast http://www.2ddu.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
RE: [cfaussie] Recommendations for a CF Framework.
@Dale: Frameworks are for people who don't know what they are doing :P Or for those who invent wheels for fun.. Documentation is overrated too ;) Regards, Adam -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Friday, 17 February 2012 2:52 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [cfaussie] Recommendations for a CF Framework. I'd recommend no framework. Frameworks are for people who don't know what they are doing :P Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MossyBlog Sent: Friday, 3 February 2012 9:56 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Recommendations for a CF Framework. Firstly, kudos for sticking it out with CF all these years! :) Secondly, I'm keen to brush the dust off my old CF skills and try it out again feeling more armed in the plethora of languages I've acquired over the years. That being said, I'm also keen to see what all the cool kids are using with regards to CF after market addons. Mach-II? or did i just show my age. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Recommendations for a CF Framework.
Oh yeah - and what sort of framework? Model-View-Controller, Dependency Injection, ORM ? What sort of application? What sort of frameworks are you used to? etc etc. Mark On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Adam Chapman a...@portplus.com wrote: @Dale: Frameworks are for people who don't know what they are doing :P Or for those who invent wheels for fun.. Documentation is overrated too ;) Regards, Adam -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Friday, 17 February 2012 2:52 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [cfaussie] Recommendations for a CF Framework. I'd recommend no framework. Frameworks are for people who don't know what they are doing :P Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MossyBlog Sent: Friday, 3 February 2012 9:56 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Recommendations for a CF Framework. Firstly, kudos for sticking it out with CF all these years! :) Secondly, I'm keen to brush the dust off my old CF skills and try it out again feeling more armed in the plethora of languages I've acquired over the years. That being said, I'm also keen to see what all the cool kids are using with regards to CF after market addons. Mach-II? or did i just show my age. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- E: mark.man...@gmail.com T: http://www.twitter.com/neurotic W: www.compoundtheory.com 2 Devs from Down Under Podcast http://www.2ddu.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
[cfaussie] Re: Recommendations for a CF Framework.
Well, I'm only 1/2 serious however. Find a framework that has more than 5 developers (so that you know it will be supported and maintained) Find one that has been around and used for 5 years (so that you know it has longevity) Find one that at least (25% of ColdFusion developers will already know) And when you find it let me know, because I'm still looking. Or pick a popular one that everyone is using today that's been written by one person and not many people understand Then train your staff to use it and be prepared to rewrite your application in 2 years. Friday rant over (Sorry Peter Tilbrook I stole your job) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
